how, why? we begin with jason carol. >> good morning to you, chris. that black face cartoon of hillary clinton is sure to complicate trump's attempt to court african-american voters some of whom are still uncomfortable with the rhetoric of the campaign. trump is set to deliver this immigration policy speech that will finally clear the air on where trump stands on key points involving illegal immigration. accusations of racism leading to more personal attacks on the campaign trail. >> people look at that and say, you seem desperate. >> donald trump's campaign manager hitting back at hillary clinton's running mate for remarks he made last week, linking trump to former ku klux klan grand wizards david duke. >> donald trump is pushing their values, ku klux klan values, david duke values. >> in the case of tim kaine, we expect the rough and tumble politics, the lies from hillary clinton and her folks, but tim kaine, you've been a mayor,
senator, a governor, running for vice president, harvard law degree and you stoop so low that you are making these allegations. i think it will backfire. >> duke, who is running for a senate seat in louisiana is promoting trump in robo calls for his louisiana senate campaign. >> it's time to stand up and vote for donald trump for president and vote for me, david duke for the u.s. senate. >> trump had been criticized for not disavowing duke's endorsement quickly enough during the primary. trump's campaign did quickly disavow the robo calls in a statement and on cnn. >> absolutely disturbing the trump campaign has no knowledge of the campaign that david duke is running and we have disavowed david duke and don't condone any of the activities he's doing. >> at a fund raising in the hamptons, clinton saying duke senate bid is a by-product of trump dog whistles to racist voters.
>> this is as trump supporter pastor mark burns apologized after tweeting this photo of hillary clinton in black face, mocking her outreach to black voters. >> the last thing i want to do is to offend people. >> meanwhile, the republican nominee seizing on the latest sexting scandal surrounding the husband of long-time clinton adviser huma abedin. >> he is married to a man who is uncontrollable. >> abdean announcing her separation from anthony wiener. something people close to the family tell cnn left abdean furious and sickened. trump using the opportunity to slam clinton's quote bad judgment. >> he's a sick person and, you
know, she has access to classified information. to think that is very likely that much of this information anthony wiener would know about. and i think it's something that was terrible. >> trump's highly anticipated speech on immigration comes together from phoenix. trump has been cite sized for not being consistent or clear on the issue. his hard line supporters are hoping they will finally get some clarification about that deportation force he promised he would put into place to deport an estimated 11 million undocumented people living here in the united states. chris? >> appreciate it, jason. thank you frp setting the table for us. let's discuss errol lewis and jackie kucinich. where to begin? where to begin? let's start with errol, the policy implications of tomorrow, okay?
let's keep it clean on the first beat here. jason teed up the desire to find out for clarity on the deportation force. now, if that's the bar for success, he's walking into trouble tomorrow. do you think he'll try to redefine priorities to get away from that? >> i think he'll skip around that particular issue, by the way. we already have a deportation force. we have a pretty robust border enforcement unit that has been funded by congress at the insistence of border states, by the way, like arizona. >> trump says it's not working and that's why -- the thing that they keep siting is the 20,000 criminals who were released and not deported. so he says that deportation force is not working he's going to fix it. >> if that's where he goes, i wish him the best of luck with that. that will play well in arizona where there's a hotly contested primary that's going to happen just next tuesday, so that will get him through that room. that will get him through that
speech. on the other hand, these larger questions that everybody else is watching, the whole rest of the country that's going to vote on november 8th, deportation force saying he will do better is a promise. it's not a policy. so if he's asked or if he chooses to actually detail a policy, then we'll have a better sense. he and all of his surrogates can maybe finally get it straight and talk about where he wants to go. the reality is, though, as we've seen from the polls and you reported yesterday, he has quite a lot of wiggle room on this. most of the country want better border enforcement, they want an answer to immigration, they do not want to see 11 million people deported. he can go light on how big this deportation force is how active or in what order they'll sort of find and implement this promise that he made to deport 11 million people. >> jackie, we started with talking about the policy situation here because we are hoping that that's what election was about, but of course it isn't. it's about the ugly tactics of politics. now we have the black face
cartoon of clinton in these bizarre remarks of trump of all people saying that clinton had had bad judgment by keeping huma abedin close given what anthony wiener is dealing with in his own personal life. what's your take on this? >> you know, trump has never been someone who has a whole lot of self awareness. him going after anthony wiener when he surrounded himself with people like steve ban nonand roger ailes and maybe some people a lot of people wouldn't be comfortable with having access to classified information is curious for sure. he also kind of jumped the shark. he started talking about some of the crazy conspiracy rumors about huma abedin and the muslim brotherhood. he said that on a radio show yesterday. so it's the old donald trump that we talk about rather than new and improved kellyanne conway donald trump that sort of took the reigns yesterday. and we saw going out a little bit too far. >> errol, he is not just talking
about the morals of the anthony wiener in this latest sexting scandal. he is saying that anthony wiener is dangerous to national security because he may have had access to classified information. let me read you the trump statement about thatch many hillary clinton was careless and negligent to allowing wiener to have close to highly classified information. who knows what he learned and who he told. it's another example of hillary clinton's bad judgment. is it possible that our country and security have been greatly compromised by this. what do you think of that linka linkage? >> one of the things is donald trump goes through what is his first time running for any public office, he's got to learn that that's for the surrogates to do. that's for somebody toels do. it's not for the candidate to get out and blindly speculate. because he's really talking about sort of a triple jump. was classified information given to huma abedin? did she then give it to her snuz was it information that would actually harm the security of the united states?
all of that stuff are things he doesn't have any kind of grasp of any real factual information about it. so it becomes just a distraction and accusation. it's not like you can't have distractions and accusations in a campaign, but it's not for the candidate to do. let somebody else speculate or ask serious questions. look, it wasn't that long ago that anthony wiener was a congressman. he had access to all kinds of important information back then. it's not as if he is supposed to be kept away from anything that might sound like it's sort of important to the national security. and as you suggested before, you know, if you start looking at some of the people around donald trump, they're not people of the highest sort of ethical and moral purity, if you want to use anthony wiener as the standard. there are scandals that have involved people like roger stone. we've got these questions that are swirling around paul manafort. what did they hear? did they get access to any briefings? there's no point going down that rabbit hole. here again, it's not for the candidate to do it.
let somebody else go out there and try to chop off heads. what many of us would like to hear is for the candidate to talk about policy details. talk about a direction for the country. not getting into the back and forth. >> except that that's hard an this is easier, especially for trump, he loves this. the question is, jackie, is there enough depth to plum where you can make advantage with these kinds of attacks. let's put up these numbers in context to my question. we have opinion polls for registered voters for both of these candidates. with trumps, you have 57% unfavorable, 26% favorable. you don't have to be a seasoned pollster to know that means the negative is baked in. similarly, with clinton, you've got 34/51. now, just to state the obvious of what people should know by now, we've never had candidates at this stage of the race who are upside down positive to negative. as deep as i go, you don't see it. jackie, is it worth the time to talk about this stuff?
how much higher can you take her negative? >> this has been a race to the bottom since the very beginning. another thing in the poll that was very interesting, only 2% of people said they had nice things to say about both of the candidates. 2%. that's not immediate family at that point. so, really. so, you're right where are these negative attacks bringing their numbers down? donald trump hasn't really had any attack ads run against him -- hillary clinton hasn't had any attack ads run against her yet. donald trump certainly has in the primary, which may be why his numbers are a little lower, but seems like maybe these candidates should talk about themselves and what they're going to do rather than tear the other down. it's very clear in these opinion polls the american people are kind of sick of both of them. >> already. and it's only august. >> except in that way, errol, it levels the playing field. since they both have high negatives and both have unfavorables, they can both keep doing what they're doing because
there's a parody on some level. >> that's right. look, it also suggests that both of them have what the political strategists will tell them is a clearer path to success by driving up the other person's negatives. unfortunately that amounts to a kind of low level voter suppression tactic. the reality is -- what we know is when unfavorables is this high, disgust level of the people voting is this high, people decide to stay home. it's not illegal to try to get the other people's supporters to stay home, but it's really unpleasant not good for democracy, raises the level of overall cynicism and sets the stage for some real problems down the road. what does the next presidential candidate do? >> great point. stick around, we have much more to talk about. also the fbi revealing that hackers breached voter data bases in illinois and arizona earlier this year. in illinois, hackers are believed to have accessed up to
200,000 personal voter records. election officials say they're highly confident the hackers did not change anything. in the arizona breech, officials shut down the state's voter registration system for about a week and stole one election password and name. the capital evacuate affidavit a bomb attack near the compound in kyrgyzstan. the blast injured three people inside the diplomatic post. so far no identity on the ie tacker, no claim of responsibility. well, actor, screen writer, author, director, gene wilder did it all and he did it with his own style. he died monday at 83 years old. wilder was a legend, of course, in the world of comedy and perhaps never better than when teaming up with mel brooks on some laugh out loud masterpieces. we have more on his life and legacy. it was a full life. >> can't help but smile thinking about him, right? fans, friends and fellow actors
will continue to pay tribute today to wild mer ch known for his energy, humor but maybe most notably his role as that quirky candy tycoon. willy wonka has left this world. ♪ want to change the world ♪ there's nothing to it >> reporter: but actor gene wilder leaves it changed with his performances, from his oscar nominated role in "the producers" to his other oscar nominated role in "young frankenstein." >> franken tine, you must be egor. >> it's pronounced i-gor. >> wilder died at the age of 83 from complications from alzheimer's though his nephew said it never stole his ability to recognize those closest to him. he was an actor who married four times, painted watercolors.
wilder's last wife karen survives him. mel brooks tweeting, one of the truly great talents of our time. he blessed every film we did with his magic and he blessed me with his friendship. wilder blazed his way through three brooks' comedies, multiple films with richard pryor and countless other projects, but he'll always remain the ultimate candy man. ♪ there is no life i know to compare with your imagination ♪ >> reporter: a toast to your imagination, gene wilder, you'll live in ours. >> don't forget what happened to the man who suddenly got everything he always wanted. >> what happened? >> he lived happily ever after. ♪ >> so he actually kept his illness a secret, but i'm more fascinated that chris actually knew him. >> yeah. >> he was a very early pioneer
for cancer research. obviously he was married to snl great, guilda radner. cancer took her. he was a sweet guy of tremendous personal depth and people you would talk to in hollywood and broadway would say that this man had it all. he could do everything. >> and he was so beguiling to watch. just watching and particularly in "willy wonka" his facial expression, his movements the actors around him sort of don't know what he's going to do at any given moment. wow. what a talent. >> the nicest man, like you just described. that's what we heard from all the actors. >> you can't think of him and not laugh. >> thank you. >> he would want us laughing, i guarantee you that. up next, the art of the debate prep. we have new details on how the clinton team is working versus
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well, the first presidential debate is now less than a month away. we'll be there, of course. >> what? >> yes. they haven't told you that, your schedule yet. both candidates are preparing in very different ways. let's bring back our panel, jacksy kucinich and errol lewis. "the new york times" has fascinating reporting about how each camp is preparing. let me read what they said about hillary clinton's camp. they enlisted the ghost writer of the donald trump biography the art of the deal. hillary clinton's advisers are talking to donald trump's ghost writer of the art of the deal seeking insights about mr. trump's deepest insecurities as they devise strategies to needle and undermine him. that's pretty fascinating about how that might look on the debate stage. >> yeah.
i mean, this is going to be a debate like we haven't seen before. i think it's fair to say that. and what the clinton campaign needs to do is they need to make donald trump look as unpresidential and unhinged as they have been saying. one of the ways to do that, to set him off. start needling him as it said in that story and really set him off kilter. if they can do that, it will -- that will be very much to their benefit. and reiterate the message that they've been putting out there. >> the trick will be to find ways to diffuse his tactics without disrespecting the premise of some of the criticism. but a lot of criticism he levels, he does it in his own way, but it's coming from a base of group think about hillary clinton. she doesn't want to disrespect that. my favorite line from the piece is mr. trump said in the interview that he would rather not attack mrs. clinton on personal grounds, including bill clinton's extramarital affairs. if she hits me, though, you have to see what happens. i like that clinton's affairs came up in the context of what he doesn't want to talk about. >> what i'm not going to
mention. >> what's the chance that he doesn't go personal? >> zero chance. he promised it all throughout the primary season. remember, he would tell the republican faithful he said hillary clinton will be easy. she's not going to get away with anything. i'm going to nail her on white water. i'm going back 20 years. elections are supposed to be about the future. donald trump said that he is going to bring up issues about her that he thinks she somehow got a free pass on. now, the rest of us remember that white water and the presidential scandals were litigated. the impeachment ad nauseam, but donald trump thinks there's still some juice to get out of that. there's something important and relevant to bring up about that. so i would expect to hear something about it. >> jackie, "the new york times" apparently found some sources that are involved in these debate preps and they have been at mr. trump's club, golf club in new jersey planning. they say that roger ailes, formerly of fox news, of course, who left amid sexual harassment
allegations are involved. laura ingram, the radio talk show host involved. let me tell you what they say about how donald trump has been somewhat resistant to any conventional debate prep. here is what "the new york times" writes -- donald trump has been especially resistant to his advisers suggestions that he take part in mock debates with a clinton stand-in. instead, mr. trump asked a battery topics about moderators and mrs. clinton's skills but people said relatively little had been accomplished. that must worry some on his team. >> right. particularly because on contrast, hillary clinton is going to be talking about policy when she is not needling donald trump. we have to see -- even when he communicates policy, it tends to be in a stilted way as we've seen some of these teleprompter speeches. this is a different format than he is used to. even the republican debates all last year they had -- there were breaks. there were commercial breaks. you're not going to see that in
this debate, so it's certainly going to be new terrain for both of them. one of the most interesting things in that story and i believe "the washington post" story is both campaigns are trying to settle on who to play their opponents. i feel like in years past it was on the republican side any way it was rob portman was always the stand-in. you're not seeing those conventional stand-ins that we've seen in years past. we'll see who they end up getting. >> it's interesting in that it seems to be a little bit of a role shift here. trump has been in the role in this election of the aggressor. he's coming in. he's a brawler. he wants to get it on. he is different from these other people. and now it seems like he is trying to stay away from the importance of exactly what's going to happen on that stage. sometimes, you know, surprise, the media can overhype things in an election. this cannot be overhyped, errol. this will be the first time they're standing next to each other and the one who wins
convincingly out of the box has a huge advantage. >> a huge advantage we note from past election cycles, this is one of the things that can and will move the numbers. 1976, 1980 and 2012 the first one where president obama kind of screwed up, it really set things off. i think one of the things that the trump team will have to be really careful about is he may not feel like he needs to prep to deal with hillary clinton. he may feel like he's got her number, can get in her head and go toe-to-toe with her, but there's the third voice on stage. there's the debate moderators whoever they are and whatever format, they have the option as we noi from having worked on these debates of really drilling down and doing insisting on an answer to certain kind of questions. where it won't be enough to sort of flip it off with an insult. you know? you can turn around and try to accuse the press of bias and so forth, but this is really where the format and the prep -- if the debate moderator is better
prepped than donald trump s he might have a really hard time getting around some of the issues he would rather not talk about. >> do we have any idea, jackie who the debate moderator will be? that's one of donald trump's big questions? >> maybe it could be you or chris. we don't know at this point. >> maybe it will be. >> maybe it will. >> no. >> to errol's point, attacking the debate moderator is something that i'm sure donald trump will do, but that only plays -- that plays to his base. that plays to a lot of republicans who thinks the press is biased any way. so that's something that won't really get him the votes that he needs f that's a tactic he employs over and over again. to your question, it really seems like it's up in the air. there's been a lot of names thrown around and you have to imagine that there's a lot of debate going on within the campaigns as to who would be an acceptable choice as a debate moderator. >> one thing cannot be underestimated. there's no question that trump is a feel guy and he feels that he know bhos he is, he knows who she is, he doesn't want to come
off too polish and practiced and she has a completely 180 degree feel. the clinton team beliefs the result on game day is a result from practice. and she will be where she needs to be that way. so they couldn't be more contrasting scandals and they both have the same -- knts avoid the inevitable. that might will be the biggest event in this election. i don't think there will be a bigger one until election day. >> great to talk to you both, panel. having entered into the news psych until a way i'm sure he does not want, anthony wiener is back. apparently his latest deal online is the last straw for his wife, huma abedin. why didn't she leave him earlier? how could this affect her role at the top of clinton's organization and campaign? these are questions that have been asked before and they'll be asked again now. next. hmmmmmm..... hmmmmm... [ "dreams" by beck ]
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long-time hillary clinton aide huma abedin announcing she is separating from her husband, former congressman anthony wiener after another sexting scandal. huma abedin keeping her typically low profile during the news. who is this woman described as hillary clinton's right hand. let's bring in a reporter. bill, thanks so much for being here. >> great to be here. thank you. >> so huma abedin is a somewhat mysterious figure because you see her all the time. she's captured in the photos next to hillary clinton, whispering in her ear often, but she is rarely heard from. so you've studied this. you've investigated her for your pieces. who is huma abedin? >> well, she's obviously a very bright and loyal and devoted colleague of hillary clinton.
she has been at hillary's side since the mid '90s when she left george washington university and became an intern at the white house. i think she wanted to work in the press office actually at the white house. her hero actually was christian amen pour and ended up without choice of her own working for hillary clinton and she basically has not left hillary's side since then. she was with her as first lady in the senate at the state department and now she is co-chairman of the hillary clinton for president campaign. she has been seen everywhere with hillary. she's basically hillary's body person and she will probably be with hillary in the white house. so, she's got hillary's trust and they're very loyal to one another and so they have a very devoted friendship. >> yeah. so interesting to hear those details, bill, because to hear that she had wanted to originally be a journalist and
started as an intern. we didn't know all of that. so, what did you learn about their marriage? because from the outside, it doesn't seem as though anybody could be more different than anthony wiener. he is obviously sort of a showman. he likes to stir the pot. he likes the limelight. huma abedin does notsome to like the limelight. what was their marriage like? >> obviously i don't know the details of their marriage, but sometimes opposites attract. you're right. they could not be more different. huma was born in kalamazoo, michigan, and raised for much of her young adult life and childhood in saudi arabia. her parents were intellectuals. both got their graduate degrees at the university of pennsylvania. anthony wiener kind of goes without saying, brash new yorker, out there, aggressive, had a very high trajectory in his political career as a
congressman when they met, and so i think they both shared sort of high power, political opportunity in careers. i think given how difficult it can be for huma to get away and have time to herself, i think that they both shared sort of that insidery, washington feel which attracted them to each other. now, on their first date or whatever became of their first date, huma at one point went to the bathroom and never came back. she wanted to get away from anthony. she should have stuck with her first instinct, but over time they spent a lot more time together. he's obviously very charismatic and she, you know, is sort of probably raised in a -- to appreciate something like that. and being very different. >> bill, that's an incredible detail. if you're climbing out the window in the bathroom of your
first date, that is telling. obviously none of us can ever know inside, behind the doors of a marriage, of course. you did write an article saying why is she still with him? obviously right before this third sexting scandal, why did she stay with him as long as she did? >> well, so we make it through the first two and the second one, of course, came during the middle of anthony's sort of resurrection effort to try to become mayor of new york. obviously that knocked him out of the mayoral race. by then, they've had their first -- their child, jordan. and basically anthony is re- -- remains unemployable, was unemployable, so he actually provided a very valuable service to the family. he stayed home with jordan, allowing huma to continue to be at hillary's side in what clearly is the opportunity of her life time, what she had been hoping for for half of her life
now since she's been at hillary's side, the chance to see her through this presidential campaign, thinking that she'll be president of the united states and being in the white house. anthony makes that possible because he stays home with jordan, who obviously is very important to both of them. it came -- turned out to be a very convenient relationship, not probably dissimilar -- look who she turned to for advice after the first two sexting scandals. she turned to hillary who obviously stayed with bill clinton throughout his indiscretions, and so that is sort of probably the mindset. you can understand why she would stay, but i think this time clearly this was the straw that broke the camel's back because when you're continuing to do this after all they've been through and with your son at your side, well, that's too much. >> that does seem to have certainly crossed the line. bill colin, thanks so much for all the insights. people can read more about your articles on them online at vanity fair.
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the violence is up 43% compared to last year. talking about 487 murders, last year there were 496 murders. so you see the increase, but all across the city, people are asking for change. what's going on right now that's creating this crime that's being pushed forward? more than 30 kids have been shot this year. people are asking for something to happen, but so far there have been no answers in terms of what will happen next. we know these two men have been arrested, but there are far too many crimes in the city that haven't been solved. in fact, homicide solve rate here is pretty low and neighborhoods are asking for some change pretty soon. but alisyn, that hasn't happened and people want to know what will happen next. >> thanks so much for all of that reports. up next, marco rubio facing a big primary challenge to keep his senate seat. now he's speaking out on cnn. the promise he will not make to voters during this election. that's next.
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>> reporter: hey, chris. florida once again at the center of the political universe. republican chances of keeping control of the senate majority which is one reason why republican leaders begged marco rubio to run for re-election and change that mind and do that. he eventually did. now that marco rubio is in the race, he has to navigate the cross currents. marco rubio used to be donald trump's harshest critic. now rubio is on florida's ballot in today's senate primary and he is giving the gop presidential nominee a lukewarm embrace. rubio is open to campaigning alongside with trump, and he won't take the gop nominee to task for calling hillary clinton a bigot. democrats have been calling republicans a bigot for a long time. i think hillary clinton has a lot of problems. she is corrupt, she is
dishonest. some of the policies she stands for do harm minority communities, absolutely. >> too far to call her a bigot, though? >> you have to ask other campaigns about the terps they use. i can tell you i don't want hillary clinton to be our president. >> reporter: after ending his presidential bid, rubio decided to run for re-election after the gop lobbied him to break his pledge to run for the senate. he won't be making anymore pledges, not even to serve out his full six-year term if he wins this november. >> could you now commit to voters here in florida that you'll serve an entire six years if you're elected? >> no one can make that commitment because you don't know what the future will hold in your life personally or plit ically. >> i'm fully prepared to be the u.s. senate to be the last political office i ever hold. >> reporter: republicans need trump to stay competitive with clinton in battleground states like florida. that means republicans like rubio need to court trump
supporters as well as independents who may be turned off by the gop nominee. polls now show rubio edging his likely democratic opponent, congressman patrick murphy. >> florida cannot afford a hyperpartisan liberal in the united states president. >> murphy is a staunch clinton supporter, rubio has done battle with trump. >> you said a lot of things about trump during the primary that you have not taken back yet. >> the primary is over. right now the primary is over. the republican voters have chosen a nominee. we have a choice between two feel. i disagree with donald on a number of things. i disagree with hillary on everything. >> the primary is over. >> how could you support someone -- >> how can patrick murphy stand with hillary clinton when over and over again she's proven to be untrustworthy? >> murphy facing progressive fire says he trusts hillary clinton, despite polls saying most voters feel the opposite. >> do you trust hillary clinton?
do you 100% trust her? >> yes, i do. >> what issues do you disagree her? >> her support of the iraq war early on. >> murphy is eager to tie rubio to trump. >> a lot of people are shocked about the support marco rubio has given to trump. >> reporter: his primary challenger says gop voters are frustrated the senator has not embraced trump tightly enough. >> trump is slated to give a major speech on immigration wednesday, but despite their contrasting views, rubio held his punches. >> do you think he reverses his position. >> i consistently said that that's not -- i don't think that's a realistic approach. >> is it realistic to build a wall on the border of mexico. >> sure. not across the entire border. key sectors, of course you do. >> forcing mexico to pay for it.
>> mexico will not pay for that. that's our national security interest. >> should donald trump soften his rhetoric? >> again, more focussed on the democrats rhetoric on this issue. >> so we're getting a good example there manu of the tough line to walk. the political cross winds. another race will be out there with john mccain. his primary today the latest cnn polls show him ahead, probably not by as much as he wants but what affect have we seen trump have on his race? >> pretty significant because lot of those donald trump supporters in arizona simply don't like john mccain because of his incouple bansy and role in immigration. john mccain like marco rubio trying to cut big immigration deal and lot of those folks do not like that in arizona. the real challenge for john mccain is in november against a well-funded democratic candidate, favored by the establishment ann kirk patrick
because john mccain would not only need those trump supporters to come to the polls but also hispanic voters in that state who have been turned off by donald trump. so also a fine line for john mccain to walk and not just today in today's primary but also in november. chris? >> big contrast in styles, though, between mccain and rubio. mccain does not pull any punches when it comes to talking about character, especially with donald trump. manu, thank you very much. lot of news from bizarre twists and headlines around the world. let's get to it. donald trump is pushing their values. ku klux klan values, david duke values. >> people look at that and say, you seem desperate. >> what do you have to lose? it can't get any worse. >> he can reach all he wants. that's not going to work. >> hillary clinton's most loyal, longest serving aide who has now become a flash point within the campaign. >> anthony wiener caught in yet another sexting scandal.
>> he is married to a guy that is uncontrolled and uncontrollable. he is a sick puppy. >> i'll continue to sit. i'm going to continue to stand with the people that are being oppressed. >> kaepernick silent demonstration is setting off a fire storm of criticism. >> he should never play another down in the nfl again. move to canada. >> when there's significant change, i'll stand. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> gene wilder is gone. we'll remember him for you this morning to give you a stens of the world he had on the entertainment world. good day. the tone and tenor of the presidential race has gotten uglier by the day. tweeting out a cartoon of hillary clinton in black face. now you'll hear from that pastor in this hour. >> this as former kkk leader david duke uses a robo call to encourage people to vote for donald trump. trump using the latest anthony
wiener sexting scandal to question hillary clinton's judgment. we have all of this covered for you. let's begin with jason carol. you have a lot to get to. >> sure do. allegations of racism, sexting. what's next in the campaign? those looking for policy discussion -- leading to kban trail. >> people look at that -- >> trump's campaign manager hitting back at hillary clinton's running mate for remarks he made last week linking trump to former ku klux klan grand wizard david duke. >> donald trump is pushing their values. ku klux klan values, david duke values -- >> in the case of tim kaine, we expect the rough and tumble politics, the lies from hillary clinton and her folks. you stoop so low that you are making these allegations and i think it's going to backfire. >> but duke who is running for a
senate seat in louisiana is promoting trump in robo calls for his louisiana senate campaign. >> it's time to stand up and vote for donald trump for president and vote for me, david duke for the u.s. senate. >> trump had been kritd sized for not disavowing duke's endorsement quick enough during the primary. trump's campaign did quickly disavow the robo calls in a statement and on cnn. >> absolutely disturbing the trump campaign has no knowledge of the campaign that david duke is running and we have disavowed david duke and don't con cone any of the activities that he's doing. >> at a fund raising in the hamptons, clinton saying duke's senate bid is a by-product of trump dog whistles to racist voters. this has trump supporter pastor mark burns apologized after tweeting this photo of hillary
clinton in black face. mocking her outreach to black voters. >> the last thing i want to do is to offend people. >> meanwhile, the republican nominees seizing on the latest sexting scandal surrounding the husband of long-time hillary clinton adviser huma abedin. >> she's married to a guy that is uncontrolled and uncontrollable. >> abdean announcing her separation from anthony wiener after the new york post published suggestive pictures he allegedly sent to another woman with his child lying next to him. something people close to the family tells cnn left abdean furious and sickened. trump using the opportunity to slam clinton's, quote, bad judgment. >> he's a sick person. and, you know, she has access to classified information. to think that it's very likely that much of this information anthony wiener would know about.
and i think it's something that was terrible. >> and trump will take center stage when he delivers his speech on immigration tomorrow from phoenix. some of his supporters concerned he is softening his position on his promise to put into place a deportation force to deport an estimated 11 million undocumented people living in the united states. the campaign finally hoping to put the issue to rest tomorrow and trump tweeting about this speech this morning just about a half hour ago saying the following -- from day one i said i was going to build a great wall on the southern border and much more. stop illegal immigration. watch wednesday. alisyn. >> thank you, jason. let's discuss it with trump supporter kaylee and political contributor and hillary clinton supporter hillary rosen. great to have both of you here. let's talk about all the news that's broken overnight and the past 24 hours. let's start with the offensive
cartoon that was retweeted by this pastor who is a trump supporter of hillary clinton in black face. she was trying to show that she is pandering. here it is, that she is pandering to black voters. should the trump campaign make a statement about this? >> i think pastor mark burns apologized for it. he made a statement and that's enough. you know, he shouldn't have sent the tweet, but i know pastor mark burns. he is absolutely phenomenal person. he is a great guy. and i think he made a mistake, but we all do. >> the tweet was not designed to anger or stir up the pot like it did. it was designed to bring how i feel a very real reality as to why the democratic party and how i view it has been pandering and using black people just for their votes. obviously no candidate is ever responsible for all of their supporters. that's impossible. does this require the campaign itself to talk about this or no? >> well, the list of things that
donald trump has to apologize for for his own behavior or others is just endless. he's just never done it. in fact, the more people harp on him to do it, you know, he ends up repeating himself like he did with the jewish star. i'm story we took it down. i just don't think we should expect this anymore. >> should he have to for something incendiary a supporter does, does a candidate have to apologize? >> define have to. this is every bit of behavior by donald trump. i think the same is true of hillary clinton. the fact that he doesn't apologize and doesn't think it's inappropriate to use black face as a symbol, you know, that's more information about donald trump that people have. >> anthony wiener's sexting scandal, donald trump it has now become a part of the presidential campaign because donald trump has basically linked it to hillary clinton's judgment. let me read for you what he has said. hillary clinton was careless and
negligent in allowing weaner to have such close proximity to highly classified information. who knows what he learn and who he told. it's another example of hillary clinton's bad judgment. it is possible that our country and its security have been greatly compromised by this. is that fair, hailey? >> it is fair. he said that huma made a wise decision getting away from anthony wiener. our hearts as women go out to her. in the situation she was. this is a perilous situation for national security. >> huma abedin seems very discreet. she rarely has ever speaks in public. she is the person who you see whispering in hillary clinton's ear. how do we know there's no evidence that she shared anything with her husband. >> we don't know that. we do know that huma abedin news broke last week brought classified information into a foreign country and left it in her car and had to have an aide remove it something that is not within the bounds of protocol.
it's a dream to exploit a situation like this via blackmail. the point is whether it happened or not, i'm not sure it did. we don't have evidence of that. it is still a national security situation no doubt. >> the last three administrations national security advisers and national security team are supporting hillary clinton for president, not donald trump. i think the idea of holding state secrets, what we need to do in foreign affairs, there's no question that the judgment that hillary clinton has far surpassed the support that donald trump has. >> what about the connection of huma and anthony weaner? >> the huma issue is an exploit by donald trump. he doesn't need his advice to say good job on separating from somebody who painfully hurt her. it's offensive to even go there. everything he does now -- yesterday change med. everything donald trump says now i'm going to start thinking about what if a president said that and my child was listening.
is that what we want a president to talk about. >> military leader coming out and suggesting that this was a bad situation, it's not just donald trump. none of us are military leaders right here. >> stop it. i heard you say this for two days. it's nonsense. you can get a military leader to say anything. >> why did yesterday change you? why just yesterday? >> because the fact that a president of the united states would comment and slam somebody's marriage, a painful and embarrassing situation, and use it to exploit it for their own personal, political gains -- >> he didn't do that. he said she was wise. >> he absolutely did that. >> go read the first half of his statement. >> wise is the point. yeah, you finally got rid of that guy. guess what, he is on his third marriage. who is he to communicate to anyone about other people's marriages. it's totally offensive. >> moving on to the e-mails. the rnc is asking the clinton foundation to release their e-mails that they sent to the state department. so we've seen it from the other way, where the state department
has released its e-mails to the fbi or to the public, but now because there have been these communications between doug band, the top executive at the clinton foundation and the state department, the rnc is doing it the other way, okay, clinton foundation, give us all of your information. do you have any problem with that, hillary? >> the clinton foundation, the reason we know what we know about clinton foundation donors is because this foundation has been more transparent and more open than any other foundation in the country. i don't think we have ever seen anything come out of that foundation that has personally profited anybody other than, you know, poor children with aids in africa or storm victims in haiti. the idea that we are working with some nefarious problem here is just outrageous. let the rnc be the first to unveil all of their potential secrets. >> you're okay with them having to release it all. >> no. i think the clinton foundation should do what they want to do, but they don't need to defend
themselves against accusations of impropriety or impurity. >> to suggest there's been transparency is laughable. we had two federal judges one appointed by clinton and one appointed by obama ordering the release of 1,500 documents that hillary clinton hid from the public. we learned from one of the federal judges, these include benghazi e-mails. she said they were about yoga and the chelsea's wed mchg this is the clinton world. to suggest it is transparent is false. you have two federal judges ordering the release. there's problems with secretary of state hillary clinton and there's no transparency when it comes to the clintons and the american public deserves better. >> hillary clinton is not with holding those e-mails. hillary clinton from day one has -- >> she used a bleaching program. >> there was no bleaching program. >> yes, there was. look it up. >> you're just throwing out right wing propaganda. >> please look up bleach fit.
she used it. >> congressional committees and investigations of benghazi, the state department, this is all in their control. hillary clinton has called for the release of every single document that is out there. there is absolutely no suggestion, including the fbi's conclusion that she did not with hold any. >> can't deny facts and reality. >> ladies, thank you very much for the debate this morning. >> thank you. coming up in just minutes, you hear from the pastor who is now apologizing for the image of hillary clinton in black face. to chris. >> this morning movie fans are remembering a man of manial tents with the passing of great comedic actor gene wilder. his best work came in collaborations with mel brooks and richard pryor. and somehow it was wilder who always seemed to steal the show. we have cnn's brin gin gresz with more on the life and legacy. >> speaking on those comedies, gene wilder inevitably put a
smile on your face and friends and family say that's what he wanted. even hid his alzheimer's diagnosis because he couldn't bare the idea of one less smile in the world. ♪ anything you want >> reporter: willy wonka has left this world. ♪ want to change the world ♪ there's nothing to it >> reporter: but actor gene wilder leaves it changed with his performances in his oscar-nominated roll in "the producers". >> under the right circumstances a producer would make more money with a flop than a hit. >> reporter: to his oscar nominated role in the young "frankenstein". >> you must be egor. >> it's pronounced igor. >> he died at the age of 83 from complications of alzheimer's. those his nephew said it never stole his ability to recognize those closest to him. he was an actor who painted watercolors and married four
times. wilder's last wife karen survives him. mel brooks tweeting -- one of the truly great talents of our time, he blessed every film we did with his magic and he blessed me with his friendship. wilder blazed his way through three brooks comedies, multiple films with richard pryor and countless other projects, but he'll always remain the ultimate candy man. ♪ there is no life i know to compare with your imagination ♪ >> reporter: a toast to your imagination, gene wilder. you'll live in our's. >> don't forget what happened to the man who suddenly got everything he always wanted. >> what happened? >> he lived happily ever after. ♪ >> keep smiling. alisyn is smiling. >> it's great to watch him in action. his eyes. those blue eyes. they're so pale.
they've been described as haunting, but they're also twing twinklefully those moments. >> he didn't get everything he wanted, though. he was such an advocate for cancer research after he lost his wife guilda radner. he started some of the advocacy stuff. >> you've been honoring it all morning. miguel marquez spitting out quotes all day. you've been doing it. >> he's a real legend. >> only way to really remember him. >> my kids and i will watch "willy wonka" again this weekend. hillary clinton and donald trump are gearing up for their first one on one face-off. up next, how the presidential candidates are getting ready for their very first debate. we will discuss. i have asthma...
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political commentator michael. good to see you, my brother. we see what should be obvious to most who follow this game, hillary clinton is a preparation fanatic, enlisting the likes of that ghostwriter who worked with dump decades ago to plum his psychology and having people stand up there, trying to anticipate what he'll say. trump saying i don't want to do mock debates. i am who i am. i have to be authentic. who what do you see in all that? >> it's a great story. what it portrays is the visceral versus the methodical. he wants to go with his gut. he thinks correctly that it got him this far. she's far more of laborious and researching in her approach. chris, if he were to bring he in for a bacon cheese burger at that country club where he is doing his prep and seek my advice, i would say, mr. trump, you better know your audience. the audience for the general is not the audience that got you thus far. you won the primary because you fed on the live crowd.
you're not going to be able to do that in this kind of a hall. and you have your base. you need to expand your tent. if you go with one liners and stingers and just try to tear her down, you're not growing the tent. >> but michael, are you sure about that? because don't people the day after debates always give the award to the winner who got in the most zingers? are people listening for the granular policies of these things? >> most people tune into "new day" the following morning and wan to be told what they were supposed to have thought about the night before. i happen to think that there's an enormous whisper down the lane effect because we all want to appear intelligent at the water cooler. you make a good point, but there are still a small sliver of individuals who are out there whose votes are up for grabs and, god, i would love to think they're looking for substance and not just the one liner. >> one of the strongest rules in
politics is what they call confirmation bias. people want to see solidify the ideas they already had going into the debate. >> he's got that. if that's the situation, donald trump doesn't need prep. >> he doesn't have it. he only got 40%. >> i see what you mean. >> that's exactly the point. he's got to expand. that's what michael is talking about. the question is whether or not he'll be ready to do that, whether he is willing to do something different than he's done. what do you think about some of the tactics we've seen come out here, getting a black pastor to put out the black face picture with hillary clinton and now he's apologizing, saying he didn't want to stir the pot. trump trying to use anthony wiener as some type of indexing of judgment for hillary clinton. what lands? >> i think that weiner is a sad sack. that's a troubled situation, but i think it's very difficult to say and therefore hillary clinton has jeopardized national security. maybe the russians will handle that aspect for him if there's some revelation between now and
when we go forward. this time he did quickly disavow david duke when david duke put out that robo call, but this is just the ugly side of the campaign. i hope not what's going to determine the election. >> michael, i want to get back to the debate prep. this new york times story is really fascinating about how each side is doing it. hillary clinton it sounds like is doing something different than what we would traditional expect with the binders full of policy research. this time, according to the article, it says hillary clinton's advisers are talking to donald trump's ghostwriter of "the art of the deal" seeking insight into mr. trump's deepest insecurities as they devise strategies to needle and undermine him. that's act style. it looks like they're looking for some sort of juice to go after him and put him back on his heels. >> alisyn, the confirmation for me in what you just referenced is that donald trump judges the size of a man or woman by their
wallet or their purse. and what you're making reference to i thought was really interesting. it's as if she wants to see what button do i need to push with him if i have to go there, and she probably will, that's going to upset him, that's going to get to his vulnerabilities. and it's ego and it's money. i think that that will be -- i think it will be a quiver that she will sort of keep close to the vest if she needs it, she pulls out that arrow and shoots him with it. >> i think it's the clinton campaign leaking stuff into the media they know we'll be talking about. >> still means they might be doing it. >> i think there's absolutely nothing new about them reaching out. the kinds of people who show up to debate preps will boggle their minds. >> psychologists, ghostwriter, that's different than the people that are around the table for donald trump. >> i don't know. i don't know who is around the table for donald trump. look at the cast of characters the guy can draw from to have around. who knows what he's going to do.
but here is what it will all add up to, michael. i've been saying i think this will be the biggest night of the entire campaign before or after. i think this will be the first time that he has to talk to her, not about her. it will be the first time for the american people to see him side by side. and as we all know, you only get one chance to make a first impression. >> well, can i add to that list that it's a tall order for whomever the moderator or moderators will be. and keep your eye on the rules of the commission on presidential debates because they are repeating something they did in the last cycle. they're breaking down the night that 90 minutes worth of debate into 15 minute segments with the intention of making the candidates go deep. now, if you can keep those candidates focussed, especially him not her, on whatever the real question might be, that's going to require a lot of substance. 15 minutes. the two of you know well from managing your television clock, that's a lot of time for content. so he needs to be prepared to get beyond the generalities. >> that is interesting, michael,
to know that they will have it chunked out like that. we do know a little from this article and other reporting about who has been advising donald trump and we know there was this meeting at his golf club with rudy giuliani, roger ails and laura inram, laura ingram, according to the reports offered to play the part of hillary clinton and do these mock debates and donald trump was resistant to that. why fight that? why not practice that? isn't that what most presidential candidates do these mock debates? >> yeah. he said that maybe ivanka could fulfill that role. hey, alisyn, let's not underestimate him. he had 15 opponents on the stage at the outset, who was the individual that many of us focussed on? ted cruz because he was an ivy league debate champion. frankly trump made handy work of him. he was able to dismiss all of them. and all of the individuals on that stage, they all spoke for a living. i know he was a reality tv star, but this was a form to which he was unaccustomed and he
performed just fine. >> great point, michael. great point. always fun to get your insights. thanks so much. we've been covering what's been happening in chicago. obviously brought into sharp focus because of what happened to the cousin of dwyane wade, but problems way bigger than any one incident. over 20 years they've had historic violence there. and right now there at an all-time high. why? we're going to ask a former chicago police superintendent ahead.
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you only have so much. that's why we want to make sure you won't have to wait on hold. and you won't have to guess when we'll turn up. because after all we should fit into your life. not the other way around. there's still four months left in 2016, right? already the city of chicago has seen a rapid rise in crime year over year. august, the most violent month in the city's last 20 year recorded history. illinois governor is now fighting to put an end to straw purchasing, that's where somebody can't get a gun themselves so they get somebody else to buy it for them.
that's, of course, illegal. now, the lawmakers in illinois say that's the source of nearly 60% of guns in the city's violent neighborhoods. is that the key to changing the violent dynamic in chicago? let's discuss with somebody who knows, gary mccarthy, chicago's former police department superintendent. thank you very much for joining us. >> good morning, chris. thanks. >> so, when we look at the situation in chicago, not as many people or as many checked lists of problems as you see in los angeles or in new york city, for example, but the homicide rate higher. why? what's the difference? >> i think the short answer is that we've gotten ourselves completely wrapped around the axel. you mentioned gun laws. gun laws have been an issue in the state of illinois for a long time. i talked about it from the day i got here. you need to go to jail if you're in possession of an illegal firearm, yet in the state of illinois, possession of an
illegal firearm snot even considered a violent crime for sentencing purposes. that's a common thread that's been happening here for a long time. things have changed dramatically. >> you have some really -- you have some very provocative and somewhat argue controversial views about why chicago continues to be violent. what do you believe the reason is that the numbers don't seem to go down no matter what the politicians say they're doing? >> well, i think there's a lot of reasons, but the short answer is the fact that the problem has been misdiagnosed. we're not taking the right medicine for what ails us. the chicago police department right now is in turmoil. it's been in turmoil for the last nine months. the rules seem to have been bent or thrown out. i want to make it clear that i don't think one of these young black men needed to die at the hands of police from anything i've seen across the country over the recent past. however, there's been a common thread through that of
noncompliance. that noncompliance i think is -- there's two things happening. we have less aggressive police that's reflected in the enforcement numbers, that's happening for a number of reasons. there's probably -- they probably don't even know what's expected of them right now. david brown, my friend, the chief in dallas articulated this very eloquently after he had those officers murdered, i'm not sure they know what to do. there's a game of musical chairs that's been called that's going on over in cpd with so many movement -- so much movement, so many changes. >> cpd meaning the chicago police department, there's been a lot of rotation? >> yes. correct. >> most people point to gangs, the difference between new york and chicago and even l.a. now is gang intradiction, that you have this mob of thousands of violent people potentially fighting for turf, doing different things, getting into it online now to set up violence and that's why chicago is the homicide capital.
do you agree with that? >> absolutely. it's a huge factor here in chicago. my experience in new york and newark, new jersey, total different gang dynamic that's happening here. but the biggest thing that i see that's happening right now that people are not talking about is the issue of the legitimizing of noncompliance with the law. we have police officers getting punched in the face at protests and we can't get them prosecuted here. there's been changes in policies that have it that officers now getting prosecuted or charged administratively when there's a criminal proceeding still going on with jason van dyke. that's going to harm that case. these are changes in policy. the rules seem to have gone out the window and the legitimizing of that noncompliance is happening on a number of levels from community leaders to elected officials. i'll say right to the department of justice, who is telling us that we should be using population demographics to
construct our crime strategies, not crime data, not when, where, who. >> how does noncompliance figure into your gang dynamic. my time spent out there with brother bill daily, 15 years ago or dealing with diane latiker and her kids off the block thing. they talk about this gang is its own world. they don't respect the police. they're never going to be compliant that way. >> you're absolutely correct. however, they're more emboldened now based upon the political climate in this country. more investigations into police departments now than in the past to my knowledge. at the end of the day, this goes right to the constitution of the united states and the founding principles of, you know, the social compact that you give up certain freedoms to live in a civilized society. those freedoms we're talking about, you can't pick up a gun and walk down the street illegally. that's not being enforced here in chicago. it's not happening in the state f illinois.
but that's also reflective of other places across the country. this is not just a chicago problem, it's a policing problem across the country. less enforcement, more emboldened criminals, more crime. >> and garry, we isn't that true this recent case with dwyane wade's cousin, one of the guys was on parole for a gun charge. thank you for the perspective. appreciate it here on "new day." be well. >> be well. thanks, chris. >> alisyn? well, donald trump and the white house weighing in on the 49ers quarterback colin kaepernick's protest during the national anthem. so will this affect some change? we have two former nfl stars to give us their perspective next. hmmmmmm.....
49ers quarterback colin kaepernick taking a stand by sitting. the quarterback's fellow players and coaches continue to weigh in on his destoigs remain seated during a national anthem at a preseason game. kaepernick says he's protesting america's treatment of people of color. so what affect will this protest have? will the team release him? here to discuss former nfl wide receivers donte stallworth and hines ward, hines also a cnn sports contributor. can't think of better people to discuss this with than you two. thank you for joining us. there's somewhat of a distraction in this story. there's no question that colin kaepernick has the right to do this. certainly constitutionally and within the nfl's own rules. you are not compelled to stand for the national anthem. the question is, was it right to do it? hines, your take. >> my take, i applaud him for
his passion for the cause, but i just think he's going about it the wrong way in the sense that you're making a protest, but you're doing it at the will of the 49ers. you're bringing in the organization. you're bringing in your teammates. now, not everybody on that team believes in the same protests as colin kaepernick, so that's where you kind of have a distraction because now it's all about colin kaepernick, rather than the san francisco 49ers. >> donte? >> well, i think that his initial comments were reported on friday night, so we've had all of saturday, we've had all of sunday and all of yesterday, monday, to discuss whether he was right or wrong. everyone has their own different takes. i think even as hines said, some of his teammates from what i saw they pretty much stood behind him, but if i think if we want to have an honest discourse, we had enough time to discuss whether he's right or wrong. now phase two. phase two is talking about the substance of what he said.
when he was talk -- when he was asked about -- when he was asked to expound on what he was discussing, i think the number one thing is that he made a plea for accountability. and if you look at what the justice department had released over the past year or so, there have been a number of cities from albuquerque, to baltimore, to ferguson that have had racial bias in their practices where the justice department called them deeply troubling. also he was asked about the veterans. i don't think he intended -- i think people interpreted different way that maybe he intended. some people have their own interpretation of the military. but he spoke highly of the military. he spoke highly of the military and talked about the veterans how he has a great respect. he had family and friends. but he talked about the issues when they come home. the ptsd, 12% of all homeless people are veterans. and 20% or 20 veterans each day on the average kill themselves. that's the issues that i think that we should move to. whether it's a distraction or right or wrong, i think we had
enough time to talk about that. we want to have an honest discussion, we need to move forward at some point. >> hines? >> here is the thing, the nfl season kicks off on the 15th anniversary of 9/11. talk about distraction. now, the 49ers, they play the rams on monday night, september 12th. but the whole weekend is catered around the 15th anniversary of 9/11. talk about distraction in the backlash that he's going to receive and not only from him, but the organization if he doesn't stand up during the national anthem when we're celebrating the 15th anniversary of 9/11. >> it comes down, donte, in terms of the scrutiny, it's how he's doing this. >> right. >> you're talking to what he's talking about. >> right. >> you don't need to be a quarterback in the nfl to understand that we have issues going on with policing in this country, right, wrong, about noncompliance, excessive, force. these are real dialogues going on. it's how he did it. your feeling act it is what? >> personally i think he
obviously has the right. i don't honestly i've kwaurled over this for a long time. i don't know if i agree with with it or disagree with it. but i do believe that at the end of the day when is there a good time to speak out on these issues? again, you had jim brown come out and say he didn't agree with the way he did it, but if you listen to the substance of what he said, he's actually making valid points that he's got a good argument. >> but no one is saying that he's doing it wrong. there's just other ways he can do it. donate all your money for the cause. start a foundation. do it on your own time. don't do it on the team's time. the organization time, the league and the nfl. >> go ahead. >> but also, too, i think that when you look at these issues with social injustice and social inequality, martin luther king was -- when he said america was the greatest purveyor of violence today, he got a lot of backlash for that. muhammad ali, he did not want to step forward to the draft, he got a lot of backlash.
there's not a veenls time, whether we agree with it or not, i'm not sure i fully agree with it, but he has a right to say that. >> sure. >> there is no -- when you have these issues, it's never a convenient time to speak out. you shouldn't speak on gun violence the day after a number of kids are murdered in connecticut over there at new town school. when is there a right time to talk about these issues? >> right. it's interesting one of the things deserves discussion these parallels to the jim brown or muhammad ali and hines, you think that kaepernick belongs in the same conversation with those guys? >> no. >> they were coming out of a period of time where turmoil was in the streets everyday and they took principled stands not just on the field but off the field as private citizens that brought tremendous heat on them that is absolutely not even close to what kaepernick is dealing with. >> correct. i look at what lebron james and dwyane wade, those guys made a
stance at the espy's. they didn't do it on the basketball court where they're affecting the other guys, because everybody probably have a different opinion about it. i look at it, football, donte, you know is a total team support. it's not about i. it's not what i believe in doesn't matter. it's about the 52 other guys i line up and our focus is to win a super bowl. i think by kaepernick taking this protest, you're taking away from the team and the goals of trying to do that to achieve, what? i really don't understand. just bad timing in the process of kind of how he's going about doing it. like i said, football, no different than like muhammad ali, he is a boxer. so he's fighting for himself. it's just about muhammad ali. it's not about the 52 other guys that i have to go out there and help win to try to win the super bowl. >> donte, hines, thank you so much for the perspective on this. i appreciate it. the conversation will continue and the underlying issues certainly deserve the conversation. you both are right about that.
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the tweet was not designed to anger or stir up the pot like it did. it was designed to bring how i feel is a very real reality as to why the democratic party and how i view it and have interpreted it, have been pandering and using black people just for their votes. >> that was prominent donald trump surrogate pastor mark burns apologizing last night after posting a cartoon of hillary clinton in black face. the tweet read, thank you black americans for letting me use you again. see you in four years.
pastor, thank you for being here on "new day." >> thanks for having me. >> in your apology, you said i had no intention of stirring the pot. tweeting out someone in black face is obviously an incendiary symbol. what were you trying to do? >> well, you know, again as i said in my apology that i prayed that those who i offended really receive as a sincere apology, because it was never my intention to hurt anyone or to offend anyone. but the message is very clear in what i was trying to say. obviously my message, i stand by it, but the methodology i do not. the message is simply this, i believe that the democrat party has been using the black vote, that block voting bloc, and because the democrat party
already noknows they own that voting block, the promises made to the african-american community are not being carried out. when we look at many of our urban communities in our country and we look at the high crime rate, the high unemployment rate -- and we also know that most of these urban centers are led by democratic rule. >> these are the same points that donald trump has been making. but did you not understand how inflammatory and offensive the image of hillary clinton in black face would be in order to make that point? >> well, as i said, i really think, you know, in hindsight my methodology, if i could do it all over again, there are so many different creative ways of getting my message out there to the public to say, hey, listen, african-americans, we need to make the democratic party work for our vote. we don't need to just vote for
them en masse when the net worth of black families in this country is between $5,000 to $7,000. that even now in many schools in our country, minority children are doomed to fail on the day that they enter the public school system because many of our schools in these communities are underperforming. >> yeah. >> and yet our society is allowing them to stay in a vicious cycle to by the time they get into middle school and right before they enter high school they're dropping out and entering into a lifetime of crime. that's not every african-american situation, but it is -- thanch >> that's the message, obviously, that you want to drive home to people. what did donald trump say to you about that tweet that you sent out? >> well, i haven't spoken directly to mr. trump.
obviously it was never my intention to -- you know, this campaign needs to be more so about the policy of the candidates. and i'm supporting those policies. for me, the last thing i want to do is draw attention away from mr. trump's policy and our historic up and coming event this saturday at the network in detroit, michigan, where mr. trump will be there at great faith ministries along with the pastor wayne t. jackson. and will do an interview, answering questions that are of value within the african-american community on the impact television network. >> yeah. >> for me, the worst thing i want to do is take attention away from that. mr. trump is reaching out to the african-american community because he cares for all americans. he wants all americans to prosper. that includes the african-american community, who i believe based on my controversial tweet that the african-american vote has been taken advantage of by the
democratic party. >> pastor, i know that you say you want to just deal with the issues and substance, yet here again is another example. you retweeted this photograph. this is allegedly, it claimed to be of bill clinton and hillary clinton in black face. this is not true. this has been disproven and debunked time and again. this has surfaced in previous presidential races. so why share it? >> well, obviously i think in reference to that particular post -- of course, i didn't have the correct information knowing that it wasn't bill clinton. i apologize for that as well, for posting incorrect information. again, i think that's what the true message of grace is, that once you discover new information, you are quickly to
change your opinion and get back on the right path. and that's what i'm doing right now to the whole world, is to say, listen, in my sincere heart of hearts, my job as a pastor is to draw people together, not push them away. once i begin to discover how it was pulling people apart, it is completely contrary to the message of unity that i've been declaring around the world, speaking at mr. trump's rallies around this country, is that we as americans -- we should be focusing more on the colors that unite us and not those colors that divide us, while not ignoring the issues that we do face. but we need to begin to see each other just as americans and really, really stop focusing on the things that divide us. that message was a divisive message. once i discovered how divisive it was, this is not the campaign talking, this is not someone yelling in my ear saying you need to take that down.
this is mark burns all by himself, who truly loves people. and i love this country and i believe in donald trump for president. >> pastor, this is the illustration, just exactly what you're experiencing, that voters in this country are so vexed by, which is everybody says they want to mend the country, they want to deal with substance, they want to deal with issues, they want to heal people. yet even you fall into the trap of sending out these lightning rod symbols that only divide people. how do you explain it? >> well, you know, again, the only way to explain it is just to simply say that it was in hindsight a horrible image to use. for me the black face wasn't the focal point of the picture. it was showing how hillary clinton and the democrat party panders after the black vote. >> sure, sure. but i mean even the photo that you retweeted.
i understand and you've been articulate about your apology and i'm sure everyone appreciates that. but even retweeting that alleged halloween party photo, how is that bringing the country together? >> again, i think at the time i did my initial tweet was to reinforce my position as to point out why this particular candidate hillary clinton is not really good for the african-american community, because the democrat party automatically assumes they own the black vote. they own that voting bloc. and because they already know that voting bloc belongs to them, very little change takes place. i do know that the republican party in general has not as a whole party reached out to the african-american community like they should have, which is why i'm extremely proud of mr. trump and how he is going to be, i believe, without question the strongest republican candidate
that is declaring to the african-american community that you're not going to be -- i'm not going to leave you where we've left you, but we're going to do whatever -- all of us, all americans, have an economic revival and that includes the african-american community. >> i want to be very, very clear. it is not allegedly fake as i just said. it is a fake photo. it has been debunked time and again. >> sure. >> let's move onto this weekend and what donald trump will be saying. it will be his first direct appeal to the black community. he will be speaking to the only african-american owned and operated national christian television network. what plan will he be laying out about how to help that community? >> i think it's really important, one, to know that when we met in the r.l.i., the republican initiative leadership in trump tour and saw the
african-american leaders and haitian leader and muslim american leaders coming together to hear collectively the number one issue that is plaguing our minority communities in this country, and number one is education. and we believe mr. trump is going to continue to echo giving parents the power to choose the schools that their children can attend so that children who are born into under privileged, underperforming communities, that they parents would now have the power to place their children into better performing schools or force those lower performing schools to raise the bar so they can match the other schools. many of our minority children in this country are doomed to fail on day one the moment they enter into the public school system. we've got to change that. also hbcus. there's a message of economic
development and revitalization of our communities and i believe donald trump has a great plan for that. >> we really appreciate you coming on "new day" to explain the tweets that you've sent out as well as the plan moving forward. thank you so much for being here. >> thank you for having me. we're following a lot of news this morning. let's get right to it. >> we have bad schools new york city j-- no jobs, high crime an no hope. i will fix it. >> klu klux klan values, david duke values, donald trump values are not american values. >> african-american, hispanics, vote for donald trump. >> what's happening in chicago is way bigger than donald trump. >> the american people hear him loud and clear. >> anthony weiner caught in yet another sexting scandal. >> much of this information anthony weiner would know about. >> this is new day with chris
cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> the attacks seem to be getting uglier by the day between donald trump and hillary clinton. you just heard from that donald trump supporter. he's in hot water after tweeting out a cartoon of hillary clinton in black face. >> this is former kkk leader david duke uses a robocall to urge people to vote for donald trump. >> truas for now that black fac cartoon of shihillary clinton i sure to complicate trump's attempts to reach out to african-american voters. accusations of racism leading to more personal attacks on the campaign trail. >> people look at that and say you seem desperate. >> donald trump's campaign manager hitting back at hillary clinton's running mate for
remarks he made last week linking trump to former klu klux klan grand wizard david duke. >> in the case of tim kaine we expect the rough and tumble politics, the lies from hillary clinton and her folks. and you stoop so low that you are making these allegations and i think it's going to backfire. >> duke, who's running for a senate seat in louisiana, is promoting trump in robocalls for his louisiana senate campaign. >> it's time to stand up and vote for donald trump for president and vote for me, david duke, for the u.s. senate. >> trump had been characterized for not disavowing duke's endorsement quickly enough during the primary. trump's campaign did quickly disavow the robocalls in a statement and on cnn. >> it's absolutely disturbing. the trump campaign has no knowledge of the campaign that david duke is running. we have disavowed david duke and don't condone any of the
activities he's doing. >> at a fund-raiser in the hamptons. this as trump supporter, pastor mark burns, apologized after tweeting this photo of hillary clinton in black face, mocking her out reach to black voters. >> the last thing i want to do is to offend people. >> meanwhile the republican nominee seizing on the latest sexting scandal surrounding the husband of long-time clinton advisor huma abedin. abedin announcing her separation from anthony weiner after
posting pictures he allegedly sent to another woman with his child lying next him, something that left abedin furious and sickened. trump using the opportunity to slam clinton's, quote, bad judgment. >> he's a sick person. and she has access to classified information. to think that it's very likely that much of this information anthony weiner would know about. and i think it's something that was terrible. >> and looking ahead to donald trump's speech, this morning trump tweeting, quote, from day one i said i was going to build a great wall on the southern border and much more, stop illegal immigration. watch wednesday. trump has been characterized for not being clear if he will keep his promise to have a deportation force deport an estimated 11 million undocumented people living in the u.s. let's get the clinton campaign's response to all of this.
we have joel benninson. pastor burns comes on and says i regret putting out the black face of hillary clinton. what i want to talk about is all the inequities. democrats are to blame and i believe in trump. did that excuse the move? or did he surrender his ability to discuss the issues by doing what he did? >> i think it surrenders his ability to discuss the issues. there's a pattern here, an attempt to dismiss them as if they don't know who really has their interests at heart. hillary clinton is a woman who has support of african-americans and latinos and people of color in high numbers because she's faug fought for racial justice and equality her entire life, starting the helping desegregate schools in the south as a young lawyer. >> you think they might work,
telling the african-american community, you have nothing to lose, your cities have been run by democrats. clinton's a bigot because all she wants is your vote? >> i don't know if donald trump has ever gone up to harlem in this city and seen the renaissance that's taking place up there, the growth of the black middle class, people striving to get ahead and succeeding. for him to denigrate and stereo type an entire population in the way he has, it reflects the kind of bigotry and racism that's coming out of his mouth. whether he attacks an american born judge because of his heritage and says he can't do his job because his paurrents we mexican -- i think people of this country, white, black, latino, asian, see what that's about. it's about prejudice, bigotry and hate.
when he takes that hate and has its go mainstream, taking the tweet from an anti-semitic white supremacist, what is wrong with this person who thinks he should be president of the united states and behaves like that? it's a total disgrace. >> do you accept -- what is your reaction to donald trump's suggestion that the anthony weiner situation reflects badly on hillary clinton and her judgment to keep weiner's wife so close to confidential information because weiner would have had access to it? >> here we've got a painful private situation for huma abedin and her son. here they've got to do it in public and we should leave it private for these folks. to the substance of what donald trump said, it's another one of the out lalandish things this m
tosses out. he did it this weekend when he tweeted an incredibly incen insensitive tweet after a woman was shot. >> dwyane wade's cousin. >> he did it after orlando. he did it after this tragedy in chicago last week. he thinks everything is about him, his political opportunism. >> i suggest that this is going to be the biggest moment of this campaign up to this point and anything that will follow other than election day. because there's only one first impression with the two of them on stage talking to each other and not just about each other. why do you think you have an advantage over a guy who's showed great command of a big field in the primary and winning people over in debaitdebate? >> these presidential debates are very different than primary
debates. they're going to be watched by the biggest audience throughout. what the american people want to hear is which one of these candidates have my interest front and center every day, which one of these candidates is going to have my back, has real plans, will tell me how they're going to get them done and the difference it's going to make in my lives. the primary was a different thing entirely. he had a free for all with eight people. i think he'll be very aggressive. i don't think he can go toe to toe with her on policy or substance. i think we'll see a lot of the same kind of hyper, over the top rhetoric from him that we over seen. that's who he is. i don't think he can control himself a you trying to mess with trump's mind, this report out in the new york times that you're talking to the ghost writer, biographer, whatever, the guy from the "art of the deal" to get psychological
secrets about his insecurities. >> i think if anybody knows what's going on in donald trump's mind, i'd love to hear from him. what we've seen from his campaign, the way he basically once a week disqualifies himself from being a serious candidate. >> are you preparing for her to bait him on that stage and take it to him? >> no. we're preparing for hillary clinton to deliver what has been the core message and the core contrast in this campaign. >> who plays trump in -- >> not going to talk about any of those details. >> do you play trump? you would be a terrible trump. >> why would i be terrible? i've done debate prep many many times, believe me, chris, believe me. >> not feeling it. am i wrong to suggest this is the moment people have been waiting for?
>> look, i think a lot of americans have paid a tremendous amount of attention to this campaign. i think to your point, the conventions are a moment where a lot of folks tune in. each candidate has a chance to show people who they are, who they're standing up for, what they're standing unagains inini. i think we came out ahead. i think debates are going to be -- particularly the first debate, i think a lot of people are going to tune in. it is an opportunity to take the measure of these two people. we're confident when people stand up and listen to which one of these people can do things that will help my kids get educated, that can create jobs in america, that has a plan to keep us safe, i think hillary clinton will come out on top. >> thank you very much for being on "new day." you can't smile when you're doing trump. you blew it.
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to hurt anyone or offend anyone. but the message is very clear. obviously my message, i stand by it, but the methodology i do not. >> that was donald trump surrogate pastor mark burns apologizing after tweeting a cartoon of instinct black face. what is the campaign's response to this? let's bring in trump campaign senior advisor boris epstein. pastor burns is sorry he tweeted that. he says he hasn't heard from donald trump. since these things are offensive and they cause a distraction for the campaign for a day, way doesn't mr. trump tell his surrogates knock it off? >> did hillary clinton call tim kaine and tell him not to compare trump voters to kkk voters? i don't think so. i was out within minutes of this tweet saying it was not appropriate. but the message therein shows the frustration of the african-american community with hillary clinton. >> but the message is obscured
by the lightning rod symbol. >> let's talk about the 26% of african-americans in poverty. let's talk about the unemployment of african-americans, double that of white people. let's talk about hillary clinton calling african-americans super predators. >> she's apologized for that. the point is why is this incendiary symbolism still being used in tweets? the pastor told us i want to talk about the issues. i want to mend this country. i don't want the divisiveness. yet he tweets out a fake photo of hillary clinton and bill clinton at -- which is fake. it's a fraudulent photo supposedly of them at a halloween party. this is not them. >> that's from some guy named harvey castro. >> he retweeted it. it's been proven wrong. why -- >> we shouldn't be talking about tweets. we should be talking about the candidates running for
president. let's talk about that. >> why are surrogates sending out these crazy symbols? >> it's not about the surrogates. it's not about the staffers. hillary clinton is in the hamptons raising money. >> boris, you are using incendiary language. >> tim kaine, the vice president nominee went out there and said the trump voter values are kkk values. >> let's move on. >> i'd love to move that. >> let's talk about the debate. we keep reading that it's now less than a month away, we keep reading that donald trump doesn't want to do the mock debate where somebody is a stand-in for hillary clinton. why not? >> he's had a ton of preferences. over 40 press conferences in the
last several months. she's not ready. you should ask her. >> you've been miscast. you want to be a journalist who asks the questions. but you're here answering the questions. i'm talking about debate prep. why isn't mr. trump interested in the conventional debate prep? what's the plan? >> he wants to show he has the temperament judgment and stamina to lead this country. that's exactly what he's going to do. >> he doesn't feel he needs to do the standard immersion in policy? >> he has plenty of policy in front of him. this is a candidate who's been successful in everything he's done, who can name the type of materials used in a rink 30 years ago. believe me, he'll be fully prepared for that debate come september 29th. >> he's giving his first policy speech on immigration tomorrow. you canni inforgive people for g a little bit confused on where
he stands. >> you'll have to watch the speech. >> you're the senior advisor. >> first of all, the wall will be built and mexico will pay for the wall. second of all all immigrants who are criminals will be deported. >> the one sticking point is the 11 million. what is his plan? >> 11 million is the total now. the fact that you're deporting the criminals reduces that to 2 to 3 million. we'll make sure we enforce the laws on the books now, new laws that are passed. hillary clinton is the one who has absolutely flip-flopped on immigration. at one time she said she wanted a barrier and then she was against the barrier. she wants 100 day amnesty. she's the one who should be pushed on her immigration plan.
>> you don't hear any flip-flop in donald trump's deportation plan where he said every sing sl one -- single one of the 11 million will have to go? >> you deal with the rest in accordance with the laws. hillary clinton has not done that. she's made 180s on immigration every which way. just like on the tpp. >> you are a mass tor pivter pi. >> he's a good lawyer is what he is. anthony weiner caught up in yet another sexting scandal. should this matter at all to clinton's campaign? we have that and the big issues of the race with new york's charlie wrangle, next. that was it. now i have nicoderm cq.
has bad judgment because weiner may have had access to confidential information through his wife huma abedin, who announced their separation because of what we've recently learned about the former congressman. let's discuss all that's going on with charlie wrangle. you have a head shake and a weird smile on your face when you hear about donald trump trying to connect what's going on with weiner to clinton. why is this a bad assault from him to say huma gets the confidential information, she's got an unstable husband, you should have known better? is that fair criticism? >> coming from trump, fairness has nothing to do with the dialogue. as far as weiner is concerned, since his child somehow was involved, it could be that we can now have him to realize he needs help. it takes a lot when someone that has an emotional problem to
realize they have the problem. but love for his wife and the child, i think, could finally be that issue where outside interests would prove to him that he's jeopardizing his child's life. >> let's put his life to the side. let's focus on the campaign. the idea that donald trump -- and you've heard this argument before, but it may be uniquely saleable in this election. african-americans who live in the big cities in unacceptable economic and social situations, the democrats have failed you. they have been in control at the state and local level with a lot of these big cities, what do you have to lose? i'll fix the problems. do you think it could resonate? >> not resonate. but i'm such an optimistic guy, i really believe that trump is providing a service to this country. people talk about racism on the
republican and democrat administration but this thing with slaf with slavery never goes away. it goes beyond just black americans because i don't really think that the framers of the constitution were thinking about mexicans and latins and muslims. so every decade we really test this sacred document to see whether it can be the ideals of what was in the constitution. when you find a guy like trump that doesn't play by the rules, then takes advantage of all of the people that have jumped over to be anti-democratic, and he did it under republican cover, the same way the democrats did it under roosevelt. they didn't brag about it but they knew they were lynching and killing people. >> do you think that's a fair analogy of donald trump to those types of hateful people? do you think he's a bigot? >> i didn't say that roosevelt
was a bigot when he accepted the dixiecrats. they never even today have ever dealt with it. what trump brings to it is that good republicans and americans now see that the republican party has been used. it has been used by bigots. it has been used by honest white folks who believe that blacks and immigrants have been responsible for them not succeeding. it's been used by a whole lot of people. and trump now is alienating all of the people that would like to be republicans, but now he's testing it. but, chris, what he is doing that tests america is not playing by the rules. >> how so? how is he not playing by the rules? that's what he accuses clinton of. >> i was trying to talk to one of your staffers. there's a game, a fight game,
the ultimate fighter that they -- >> sure. >> they put them in cages like wild animals. and they fight each other. and then you have what i love, boxing, which of course a lot of people believe is -- >> the sweet science. >> if you put in a professional boxer like politicians are against a guy that's used to fighting in a cage without any respect for the truth, without any respect for the rules, it's testing the system. whoever thought of this system never thought about someone like trump. you probably are too young to remember a comedian called professor edwin corey. you ask corey anything, he'd give you the wildest answer, but he was funny. but he never, never, never answered the question. and no matter how good you think you are, you can't get trump to
give you any answers. >> we try with all of them. it's always been a challenge. >> but that's not true on my level of government whether city council, local school board, you ask a guy a question, you get an answer, you agree or disagree. he challenges the truth, he challenges the system. ant it's not republican or democrats. he's challenging our constitution. >> congressman charlie rangel, good to have you with us. are anthony weiner's issues with texting explicit photos to women an addiction? dr. drew gives us the answer, next. we have to be very precise. if we're not ready when the planets are perfectly aligned, that's it. we need really tight temperature controls. engineering, aerodynamics- a split second too long could mean scrapping it all and starting over. propulsion, structural analysis- maple bourbon caramel. that's what we're working on right now.
something else? joining us now is dr. drew. dr. drew has not treated anthony weiner. thank you so much for being here. how do you categorize this seeming compulsion that we see with anthony weiner? >> i guess the best way to approach this is decide what an addiction is. an addiction is a progressive behavior with a substance that affects work or school, relationship or legal status. certainly he's got problems as a result of a behavior that progresses. it's a behavior that has consequences that cannot stop. now, when somebody's in that condition -- >> the reason that this gets complicated and confuses people is because your phone is not a substance. how can he be physically addicted to this behavior? >> right. it activates the same part of the nervous system that's associated with the addictive
process. it's called the medial forebrain bundle. it's more complicated, you're right. often times behind this are much more significant emotional issues like trauma. and to get better they need to have various kinds of intervention. at least in anthony weiner's case if he ever decides to get involved with 12-step, people will be welcoming him. he may have been doing it, by the way. we don't know what has been going on here. it's not ever a direct road to complete abstinance. when his defenses drop, it's going to be shattering. it is really a sad story. >> this is a sad story. it's also fascinating because it's so self-destructive. you get to watch the self-destruction play out in realtime. it ruins his family, it ruins
his career. and yet he can't stop. he was interviewed about this and he vowed this would be behind him. watch this. >> maybe it would be maybe an easier answer to say, well, i've got some addiction or i was abused as a child or something else. it's none of those things. it was simply a blind spot. >> you're how confident that it won't happen again? >> it is behind me. >> that was in 2013. he called it a blind spot. he dismissed the idea that it was an addiction. what do you hear there? >> i hear denial. and these kinds of behaviors fall into two broad categories. one is sort of the grandiose narcissist who feels entitled to all of this. he seems to fit in that category versus the shame based compulsions. in his case, all that defensiveness needs to come down. when it does, he's going to see
what the consequence will be and he will be needing to do whatever is required to get better. it's not something you can do alone. he should have our compassion. we shouldn't be sitting in judgment of this guy. this is the story of a family with a young child that's potentially going to be investigated by child services, potentially a divorce, a career that's affected all because of behavior that we all look at and can't understand how it could possibly go on. that's when you know you have somebody who is -- let's conceive of it at least as an addiction, something you would like to stop and you can't. that to me is all i need if the consequences are mounting. >> we're talking about it because it's fascinating and because we do know people obviously in everyone's life that have addictions. and this sure does seem like it in that the behavior seems to be escalating. his wife is operating at this upper echelon of the country and
this time his child was in one of the photos. what do you see with that kind of escalation? >> again, if you were going to conce conce conceptualize this as an addiction, addiction is progressive. unfortunately the carnage that they create sometimes can never be repaired. it is deeply saddening to watch this happen in realtime. colin kaepernick made a decision to sit for the national anthem and he's created a lot of controversy for himself, his team, the organization. was this the right way to make a point? alzheimer's disease the fi is out there.survive
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you know what happened. colin kaepernick, the quarterback for the 49ers, stayed on the bench when the national anthem was playing and he did it on purpose and he said he's going to continue to do it because he says he has problems with how this country is treating people of color. d.l. hughley joins us now to weigh in on this and other issues affecting this election. thank you for being with us. >> good morning, chris. how are you doing? >> better than i deserve.
here's the debate. nobody is saying that kaepernick does not have the right to make this statement. it's whether or not he did it in the right way. >> well, i think it's ironic because kaepernick is being sigh len silent to protest the treatment of people in this country. there's nothing more american than silence. i think ultimately the question has never been how black feel about america. it has and always will be about how america feels about us. just like the things that we see that are insulting, like you'll see people come out and say -- they'll say that they are opposed to what kaepernick is doing. none of those people come out and say anything when people are being brutalized, not one thing. i think that ultimately football is an escape and black people oftentimes don't get an escape from reality. there's no sunday off where we
get to pretend like things aren't the same. standing for the national anthem is a distraction. we get to pretend like we're all together. oftentimes we live in two different americas. >> the question still remains about how do you address that. he's being compared to jim brown within his own posport, to muhammad ali. jim brown held a preference early on that he organized. muhammad ali changed his name. >> i think muhammad ali was a vociferous opponent. i think he was very loud. it's ironic that people -- >> but he didn't do it during a fight is what i'm saying. jim brown didn't do it during a game and bring in his whole team. ali didn't bring knit on his opponent. he did it as a private citizen. >> he is a private citizen.
i think that what he's doing is brave and necessary. i think that's a mirror. i think that people are seeing things they don't like. they want him to shut up and play. he's paid for his athleticism, for his ability to throw the ball. he's not paid for his silence. people don't like what he's saying because they know it's inherently true. colin kaepernick is saying what a lot of people can't. >> let's talk about the substance. we look at chicago. >> sure. >> we see dwyane wade's cousin nykea aldridge killed while walking her baby in a stroller, about as stark a picture of the wrongness of the violence as you can have. in the election it is also coming into play. donald trump is looking at a situation like chicago and saying, the democrats have failed you. chicago has been run by democrats forever. let me fix the problems. what do you have to lose? >> that is the silliest comparison. i'll explain chicago to donald
trump when he explains the entire southern region of the united states of america to me, the entire southern region of the united states of america is red and poor and uneducated. about dwyane wade, the thing that's ironic is they shot dwyane wade's cousin, people made it a political statement. two days later those men were arrested. the problems of chicago are a micro k microcosm of what's happening. in chicago they want essentially the same thing they want from kaepernick. shut up. the problems in chicago aren't just black on black crime. they are poverty. the unemployment rate in chicago is high and so are the murder rates. the biggest indicator of crime is poverty. everybody knows it and they
pretend like that don't. donald trump has not said one thing about what he'll do to fix it. >> he says i'm going to bring jobs. i'm going to give you jobs. >> how? >> i'm going to give you school choice. >> how? >> i'm going to have more cops there. >> how? how? how? by going bankrupt four times? people say all kinds of things. it is what you do. it is what you do. it's insulting. we live in due ality. a lot of threaathletes are comit in opposition of what kaepernick did. when will a white nfl player say something about police brutality ever? they won't. these things exist because america is silent, much like kaepernick's protest. his protest is to protest violence. theirs is in agreement of it. >> the debates are coming up. what do you expect from?
i think this debate is the going to be the moment of the election. that first impression may wind up making the decision. what do you think? >> i think i agree with you. i think that there are really not that many choices. i think that hillary clinton, for whatever people say about her. she she's a liar but you ascribe that to politicians. i think donald trump being president is like flava flav winning a spelling bee. his whole premise is i'll do something i haven't done before and i'll it well. this is silly to me but ultimately this is the choice we have to make. i think that the more people see donald trump, the more that people get to see him away from all the sycophants that think he
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