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>> a lot of suspicion that putin and the russians are trying to interfere in domestic american politics. elise, thank you very much for that report. that's it for me. thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." erin burnett "out front" starts right now. out front next, the fbi releasing its report on the clinton e-mail investigation. what did she say behind closed doors? plus, donald trump making a hard sell to african-american voters, but did he make a mistake by scripting his answers? >> a massive storm threatening to spoil the labor day holiday up and down the east coast. let's go "out front." >> good evening and happy labor day to everyone. i'm jim sciutto in tonight for erin burnett. out front tonight, i do not recall. hillary clinton gave that answer at least 39 times during the fbi interview about the use of her
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private e-mail server. clinton relied on the judgment of experienced staff when it came to sharing classified information over e-mail. all this contained in the report that the agency compiled before, you'll remember, deciding not to recommend charges against her. republicans, quick to pounce. donald trump saying in a statement, quote, hillary clinton's answers to the fire about her private e-mail server defied belief. after reading these documents i don't understand how she was able to get away from prosecution. republican national committee chairman reince priebus calls it, quote, a devastating indictment and the clinton campaign is seeing it very differently, these materials make clear why the justice department believe there was no basis to move forward with this case. phil mattingly is out front tonight. phil, is this report the bombshell that some had been bracing for? >> reporter: jim, as you pointed out and it was important to note, this was the baseline for the fbi's decision not to bring charges and recommend bringing
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charges against hillary clinton. that said, it was the baseline for fbi director jim comey and how they handled classified information and there are plenty of examples not only backing up what comey said and giving ammunition to the republicans and the trump campaign to continue to attack hillary clinton on this issue. >> tonight, less than two months after the fbi recommended no charges against hillary clinton -- >> we are expressing to justice our view that no charges are appropriate in this case. the fbi agents investigating her use of a private e-mail server reveal revealed, redacted and unprecedented nonetheless. the notes lay out the probe in details and clinton's own interview with the law enforcement officials. >> although, we did not find clear evidence that secretary clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws regarding the handling of classified information. there is evidence that they were
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extremely careless of highly classified information. >> the documents revealed that clinton told fbi agents that she couldn't recall the handling of information. she relied on her aides to, quote, use their judgment when e-mailing her and could not recall concerns sent to her private accounts. the notes also show that the fbi presented clinton with copies of e-mails discussing the classified u.s. drone program. clinton responded that she thought drone strike information classification, quote, depended on the context, noting it was a subject frequently in the press. clinton was also asked about the markings on an e-mail that denoted classified information. >> think it's possible -- possible, that she didn't understand what a "c" meant when she saw it in the body of an e-mail like that. >> clinton told the fbi she was unaware what the marking meant in question the classification. >> the public release comes after the fbi provided the
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documents to lawmakers. some republicans expressed outrage at the justice department's decision not to bring charges against the democratic nominee. >> we believe that you have set a precedent and it's a dangerous one. >> and in the wake of clinton herself offering her clearest apology yet on the issue on cnn last month. >> when i try to explain what happened it sounds like i'm trying to excuse what i did, and there are no excuses. i want people to know that the decision to have a single e-mail account was mine. i take responsibility for it. i've apologized for it. i would certainly do differently if i could. >> as you noted, the clinton campaign are pleased with this release. here's why? these were already given to the people that they would deceptively release them to make clinton look bad. they're having a field day with
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this and with good reason there, as well. one of the issues that was brought up in this report. clinton used 13 separate devices over the course of this issue. her advisers and her aides couldn't find any of them. two of them were destroyed by hammers, jim. >> phil mattingly in new york. former federal prosecutor and senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin. you've heard a lot of depositions, legal interviews and those answers, i do not recall. i rely on my staff's judgment, what do they say to you? >> well, they say she was carefully prepared by her lawyers. one thing every lawyer says to someone being questioned especially by an fbi agent where if you make a false statement it's a crime is they tell you don't speculate, don't guess. if you don't know say you don't know. if you look at the questions to which she said i don't know it's actually pretty understandable. there are very detailed
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questions about classified information. she did not pay a lot of attention to these issues much to her misfortune and i -- hear denials of knowing actually, i think seem somewhat believable. >> so as a lawyer, you look at these notes and interviews. we know the fbi already decided not to recommend charges, but as you see their background materials in effect, does that decision not to recommend charges surprise you? >> not at all. this does not seem like a prosecutable case. hillary clinton seems like a clueless baby boomer who is at sea with technology and who was very careless as jim comey said about how she handled classified information. this was a botch from day one, but the idea that she intentionally disclosed classified information which is what you need for a criminal case seems very basically impossible to prove from this information so you can certainly
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see why the fbi declined to pros du cute. >> out front now, senior special writer monica langley, and executive director of the new york democratic party, basil smikle, donald trump supporter, kayleigh mcnany and the national spokesperson for and pastor james davis and cnn presidential historian tim naftale. >> corinne, this is a legal question now because the legal question has been decided by the fbi and they're not going to recommend charges. 39 times she said i couldn't recall. why not answer those and the other questions directly, head-on? >> i think jeffrey toobin went into the reasoning as to why not do that. look, just to step back for a second. she apologized and she said it was a mistake and if she could, shieldn't do it again and let's be clear here, fbi director comey said that there was
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nothing illegal done here. what we're seeing now is basically we're seeing how the sausage was made, right? we're seeing exactly how to went down and what we are learning is that the fbi did a thorough investigation and there is nothing there. >> kayleigh, i imagine you have a different view. >> she said i do not recall if i used an ipad in the last two years. i do not recall if i used a flip phone. i do not recall if i had intelligence briefings. i guarantee viewers at home can recall if they used a flip phone or an ipad. she, in my opinion, has deceived the american public to claim she did not know that "c" meant classified means that she is either ignorant or deceived us by saying she didn't know what "c" meant. either, disqualifies her as commander in chief. >> i just want to play hillary clinton's sound when she first
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spoke about her private e-mail server. have a listen. >> there is no classified material. so i'm certainly well aware of the classification requirements and did not send classified material. >> she basically threw it off on her staff. she said i relied on experienced staff in effect to decide what material was shared via e-mail. there she was taking reonspons e responsibili responsibility. to the fbi, she seemed to be passing the buck. >> she said it's on me. i apologized, but i think a lot -- >> to the fbi she said i relied on my staff. >> and that could be true because two of the things that came out of these reports and these e-mails, one, that she actually works really, really hard. she's an incredibly busy person and it's conceivable that someone in that position of power could say, you know, you
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guys handle it and let me focus what i need to focus on so on and so forth. it doesn't need to be the either/or that you presented. >> what's the third option? >> the third option is that she's actually telling the truth because sometimes we try to find a way for things to not be true. >> no, you offered the choice of being ignorant or incompetent. i'm offering the option of her telling the truth. >> you're secretary of state and you don't know classified markings. >> she relied on her staff in a way that she has ultimately taken responsibility for. i think that's the point. >> monica, you've covered this a long time and you're in deep touch with the trump campaign. you've had congressional hearings on the e-mails and you've had the fbi decision not to prosecute. you now, in effect lifted the veil and showed the documents and the interviews and all of the data they had to base that decision on. from your perspective, does this diminish this as a campaign issue now? >> i think it heightens it.
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i was in the trump campaign headquarters today, and as this was coming out they were salivating. i mean, they view more and more e-mails as evidence that hillary clinton should not be president i mean, this adds to the e-mails about the clinton foundation and its ties with the state department and the fact that jeffrey just said she was clueless and the fact that the fbi said she was careless and does this mean she's incompetent? believe me, donald trump is going to hammer these points at the first debate. >> corinne, how do you respond to that and how does the clinton campaign respond? 80% of voters say they were bothered by how hillary clinton handled her e-mails and that was reflected in the trustworthy numbers. >> the polls are showing that people don't actually care about the e-mails, either. they're sick and tired and hearing about the damn e-mails as bernie sanders has told us before himself, and so what they
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care about is who is going to take this country in the right direction and when it comes to that question, hillary clinton wins that question time and time again. >> pastor and tim, just to be clear, we're going have you back after the break, as well, but do you think that holds up? tim, you've covered a long time, and if there is no smoking gun, do they turn the page on that issue. >> for people who watched the clintons any weir, that's not neslie the case that something was done. >> the republicans in congress have interesting bits and pieces in this report and there are examples of nonclis closure and the fact that there was a second server and that things had been moved from one serve tore a second server and there were deletions that occurred after "the new york times" came out
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with the story and that's not proof of wrongdoing, but it's proof of mishandling and one would think that the clinton team after all they went through in the '90s would have been better at figuring out how to be transparent. i'm not suggesting that the trump campaign will get a lot out of this because national security leaders, republican and democrats have also supported hillary clinton and they know about classified material. it does say something about the clinton team and it does say something about how transparent a clinton presidency might be. >> hold those thoughts, folks. we do have the benefit of time and we'll have you back after this break. out front next, the plan to win black voters in detroit. why his preparation for the visit have some questioning whether he is really sincere. plus a new report says a missing american could be in north korea, if you can believe it, teaching english to kim jong-un. his brother will join us live tonight. a deadly storm sweeping up the east coast with millions in its
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face in philadelphia. it comes ahead of a high-profile visit on saturday when he will tour ben carson's hometown and attend an african-american church. >> you have so many in poverty and the crime is horrible and the education is terrible and they live terribly, and i say what do you have to lose? i say it to them, what do you have to lose? give it to me. i'm going to fix it. >> reporter: the gop nominee is facing con troversy with his visit. a draft script for a planned interview with 12 questions the campaign had worked out with the church's pastor and suggested answers for trump. >> one of the questions asking trump if his campaign is racist. trump, according to the document obtained by the times is instructed to avoid repeating the word racist in his response and advised to say, quote, coming into a community is meaningless unless we offer an alternative agenda that has
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perpetuated an underclass in america. >> he stands by the decision to share the questions in advance. >> i don't see anything wrong with it. i never lied or tried to be deceitful about it. >> but says he's ready to throw trump some curveballs. >> i have questions that they don't know about no one know about, i changed them after that came out. >> amid concerns about the authenticity of the scripted conversation and trump will give a short speech to the congregation and even that detail is in dispute. jackson, in a second interview on cnn today indicating that is not set in stone. >> no, he's not. >> will he be sitting in the service? will he be sitting in the service, bishop? >> he'll be sitting in the service. >> and campaign events like this are typically very carefully choreographed carefully by the campaign and this visit is less than 24 hours away has major areas of contention and
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confusion over what exactly donald trump is going to do while he's in detroit. the pastor today also emphasizing that he is a democrat, jim. he wants his church to be incluesive and predicts that tomorrow trump will get the embrace of his congregation. >> my panel is back with me and i want to start with you. scripting answers right down to instructions not to use the word racist and respond whether this campaign is racist. why would black voters hear those answers, then and believe that they were sincere? >> i think the intelligent listener to this conversation, they're hearing him and we've had this discussion about venue now for the last two weeks that you have to be in front of black people in order to hear you. it's ridiculous. >> if you're standing in iowa, microphones and cameras are pointed at him. as such, if it's going to be a ten-minute thing, like with anything, you will have questions that are on there that
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we get to in order to get the answers that we want. as a result, it comes out to be this nefarious thing and he's a man of impeccable integrity and he would never script something to get an answer. >> the campaign felt the need to script word for word. >> mr. trump has never kept on script ever. he's always going to put something in there and they wanted to make sure again that we stay on. the campaign issues it and then they come back again and the questions came from the church. it seems hillary clinton was in hiding all this time and she didn't come out until he began to go after and say i want to engage the black vote. he's got a multiple decade record of engaging the african-american community. >> look, i don't begrudge any leader meeting with a
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presidential candidate. i don't begrudge that at all. my concern is we are just three months out, just over two months out of this election and he now decides that he wants to go to an african-american church? my concern is that, number one, it's scripted in a way that a television show that his reality show would be scripted and i do not want him -- an institution church in communities of color. i do not want him to appropriate that for a show. that is my major concern, and the fact that he's gone out there and made these incredible statements about -- and thrown up all these stereotypes about what's happening in the black community and not understanding the nuance. that's my concern. >>. >> you raise a point. i want to play some of the statements that donald trump has made about the black community since the start of this campaign. let's have a listen. >> what do you have to lose?
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you're living in poverty? your stills are no good and you have no jobs. we'll get rid of crime and you'll be able to walk down the street without getting shop. >> i have so many african-american friends where they're doing great. they're making good money and living a good life. >> kelly, you know that these comments were criticized at a minimum tone deaf by him. you have chose comments and you have this new outreach. how do you expect black voters to turn on a dime and having heard these for months hear a new message and be open to a new message this time around? >> it's really important, i think, to understand who is leading the effort to introduce donald trump to the african-american community and that is ben carson. i'm talking about the guy running for president now. how do voters respond to the message they heard until now and then the new message. ? it's the same message and donald trump has been saying months and months and months since he first
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got into this race and the economy has failed all voters and he's specifically addressing the african-american community and it's not the first time and i'm sure pastor davis can speak to this, and he's had meetings with pastor darryl scott and you can speak to this better than i am because you've been a part of it. >> why are the numbers so anemic in terms of the support? >> there's been this narrative for the last year of painting him in a racist light. >> but those are words he just said. i didn't take those out of context. >> again, it's because that's how it's taken and that's how it's painted that once again, if you're speaking to the people that are suffering the worse and that's who he's talking to and he's not talking to the middle class bhuj oisy and those are the ones he was speaking to. >> to me the african-american outreach is a nonstarter because he lost the african-american
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vote in 2011 when he decided that he was going to be the grand wizard of the birther movement which birtherism inherently is racist, right? he insulted not only the office -- >> no, let me finish. let me finish. >> he insulted not only of the presiden presidency. he insulted the first black president by doing that. so african-american voters are sophisticated, smart voters. they vote for self interests just like white voters and they are not going to vote for someone who stood in front of a white audience and did a character assassination. >> because it came into the political discourse in 2008 from somebody in her camp, and then we just ignored that. yes, he picked it up in '11 and carried the baton, but it started with hillary clinton. >> that is inherently racist for her because her camp said it. >> hillary clinton introduced this when she was asked if barack obama was a muslim. >> she said as far as i know no. she started this.
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>> when you compare it to the months of perpetuating this myth it's not exactly equivalent. >> he had a movement. it was a movement. it was a birther movement. >> we'll have to leave it there, and again, we have the advantage of more time. up next, donald trump losing support from some of the top hispanic surrogates after his latest immigration speech. has trump squandered a chance to reconnect with latino voters and breaking news, hermine churning its way up the atlantic seaboard and more than 30 million people in its path this holiday weekend. i work 'round the clock.
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welcome back. a defiant donald trump tonight vowing to crack down on all undocumented immigrants convicted of a crime. meeting today with the mother whose daughter was killed by an undocumented immigrant nine years ago. >> you were the first person to step up and actually give her recognition, and i truly, truly thank you from the bottom of my heart. >> thank you. ? that you would help me not let her memory. >> she would not have died in vain. >> the big number now according to immigration officials of the estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants in the u.s., 121 were charged with homicide between tent 10 and 2014.
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sara murray is out front live in trump tower here in new york. sara, what was trump hoping to accomplish with his meeting today? >> reporter: well, jim, it certainly gave him an opportunity to call out hillary clinton and say this is an issue that she has been ignoring and to say she has been the candidate who will be tough and who is going to crack down on these things and crack down on illegal immigration and it gives him the benefit of having these images of him showing his softer side and seeming like he's sympathetic to a family that is made up of a number of minority voters and people he's had difficulty relating to throughout his presidential campaign. >> trump's son eric said he is surprised a number of hispanic surrogates withdrew their support within the last 48 hours. how concern side the campaign about that loss? >> reporter: i think the campaign is certainly concerned about where their numbers stand with african-american voters and where their numbers stand with latino voters and jim, this is important about the number of white voters who believe that
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donald trump might be racist and that's a reason for him not to vote for him. we saw donald trump come out and say he felt like his speech was misunderstood. i think this gives you an indication that they were surprised to see this backlash, but i have to tell you, i've talked to a number of different people who watch that speech and who were activists who deal with hispanic voters and they told me after that speech they feel like donald trump does not have a chance to move his numbers with this community. even if he does come out in the coming weeks and soften the language, that will leave the impression. >> sara murray, trump tower. i want to bring back my panel. >> trump, it was a tale of two days and two moments. when trump was in mexico and i heard this from commentators on the right and the left and how powerful a moment that was for him next to a mexican president looking presidential. by that evening, you have a twitter fight with the mexican president over what was exactly said over who was paying for the
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wall, and then you have the speech with a diametrically opposed point of view with immigration. a lost opportunity for trump? >> oh, huge. when he appeared on hannity he talked about -- he mentioned the fact that he met with his hispanic advisory group and said perhaps we should soften some of the laws and of course, was there an uproar and people questioned him and he backed away from that. i would love to know what he said to his hispanic advisory board. i suspect that oftentimes donald trump wants the people he's talking to to like him, and i suspect that he had this engagement with them, and he comes out of it and it goes on to hannity a few days later and then there was a strategic discussion in his camp and they must have been trying to figure out, are we going to try to broaden in a way you have to if you're going to govern or are we going to stick to the issue that made us the nominee? >> well, i think that the
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decision was made after president pena nieto tweeted and donald trump saw that tweet and was angry and arrived in phoenix and said, you know what? i'm going to talk about the wall. i'm going to talk about paying for the wall. >> monica, you were with the campaign. you had unique access. >> right. >> just after, what really happened? >> i was with donald trump yesterday in his motorcade on his plane after he had come in from mexico to his speech from phoenix. it was true he was going to leave out payment of the wall in his big speech wednesday night, but once the mexican leader tweeted i told trump i'm not paying for that wall, trump was very upset. he was, like, well i'm not going to let that go and we all know from how he behaves in the primer, if he gets punched he punches back harder. >> how does that work, kayleigh, and pastor james, how does that work for him? there was this moment to be presidential and then you have a tweet and then you change, in
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effect what sounds like was a agreed-upon softening of the message and how was that a successful strategy. >> he's reiterating and not reneging on his promise that he made through the entire primary and that was to say mexico was paying for the wall and he didn't need to discuss it. there was an article out today that they're considering taking elicit assets and the president said that he brought up, and it was not discussed and donald trump did not engage in that discussion because he did not need the permission. >> the mexican president said -- >> and the president stood by him when he made that comment. if i'm going to believe someone i'll believe the person who said it on stage and not rebutted by the partner standing next to him. >> he was not going to talk about it in deference to the mexican president after the very good meeting and then he decided i'm throwing it in, and even though you think it was a missed opportunity the trump campaign
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still believes it went very well. he looked presidential and he came back from that day and they had the biggest fund-raising day and $5 million raised in a single day and they're saying we have shown by going to mexico and by going to louisiana, we are out there taking the big moves and hillary clinton is doing her hamptons to hollywood fund-raising. >> the question is does that accomplish the goal of drawing in more latino voters? that's the question. >> that's the question. >> corinne, i think i know what your view is, but pastor, i want to hear from you, as well. >> i think there is a huge cross section of american voters that are tired of soft leadership and of what donald trump represents is someone that says what he means and means what he says and he reiterated and doubled down on his original posture. >> corinne, pipe in. >> when you have david duke, the former grand wizard of the kkk and anne coulter celebrating your speech, your alt-right speech that you give after visiting the president of
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mexico, that's a problem. that does not mean you're doing good outreach. >> i want to get your thoughts and i want to play a bit of sound that's relevant to you. >> this is the founder of the group latinos for trump. a warning he gave last night. just have a listen. >> my culture is a very dominant culture and it's imposing and causing problems. if you don't do something about it, you will have taco trucks on every corner. >> taco trucks on every corner. what's your reaction? >> i don't know why he's afraid of that. i'm good with that. >> there appears to be -- racist is not the word, but an offensive message there, an insulting message. >> there absolutely is, and to me, what's interesting is that the speech in phoenix was one of the darkest i've heard from donald trump and to me for the republican party that talks a lot about family values, what he's doing in his speech and what he's proposing to do with
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his policies is to break up families all over this country and of multiple ethnicities with his deportation forces. as hillary clinton is, he is not in support of the deferred action for parents. >> just a quick response before we go. >> dark is the favorite adjective of the hillary clinton camp and what's dark is not donald trump's immigration policy and there were parents on that stage who lost their children and hillary clinton has no plan for redressing that and making sure that no future american citizens are killed. >> but as the reporting has said of the 11.4 million that was 121, and that is absolutely correct, but you are also condemning the rest of those families because what he's doing -- well, actually he called them murderers and rapists. >> out front next, hermine packing high winds and rain threatening the labor day
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breaking news. a dangerous tropical storm right now roaring up the east coast packing winds of nearly 50 miles per hour. the storm is generating life-threatening conditions including dangerous surf, damaging winds, drenching rains. the big concern right now for more than 30 million people, major coastal flooding. this storm already taking the life of one person in florida, leaving thousands of homes and businesses in the dark and under water across florida. martin savidge is out front and he's in kill devil hills, north carolina. what are conditions like where you are right now? >> reporter: the conditions have been changing dramatically just in the last half hour. the winds have definitely been picking up and the rain which has been steady all day long is falling now or striking me with a much greater force. here's the thing that's unique
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from what happened 24 hours ago when it came ashore in florida as a hurricane. this tropical storm is doing just the opposite now. it is going to pass over the outer banks and go out to sea. so from land, out to water. the thing is water is gasoline to a tropical storm like this. so it's expected that it will begin to intensify, which, of course, for everyone along the eastern seaboard, that is not good news. the storm could strengthen from this point on out. the big concern right now, coastal flooding, six to eight inches projected here and wind speeds of 50 to 55 miles an hour, and not a devastating storm and a greatly disruptive storm. already in south carolina alone over 700,000 people without electricity. that number is expected to grow as is this storm. back to you. >> talking beach closures as well now. martin savidge.
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i want to turn to meteorologist karen maginnis, can you walk us through those? >> between 30 and 40 million people will be impacted and this doesn't look like that robust hurricane that we were looking at just about 16 hours ago, but it's going to exit off the north carolina coast. as it does that, it's going to encounter that warm stream of water, the gulfstream just off the coast and it is going to linger and it is going to travel a little bit, but nothing dramatic. as we heard martin just mention and coastal seconds of north carolina, six to ten inches of rainfall and this is low-lying territory, and they're going to see quite a bit of damaging flooding, a heavy coastal flooding and storm surge. you're going see plenty of power outages there, as well. all right. we talk about the spaghetti models and take a look at this and most of them in agreement off the coast of north carolina, but then it really looks like
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spaghetti. it's turning around on itself and it doesn't have any particular direction, but what can we expect? let's go ahead and show you what's happening on the floor. we take this system off the coast of north carolina. we could see wind gusts up around 60 miles an hour and steady winds, 35 to 40 miles an hour and then racing all of the way up the coast and all of the way into massachusetts. we are looking at what could be a pretty devastating labor day weekend. we head back towards the board. what's going to happen? this post-tropical system will be off the coast of new jersey and it's going to impact folks there. could see severe flooding even over the dunes and back bay flooding and it will be quite the system to watch for the next five days. back to you, jim. >> karen maginnis at the cnn weather center. >> out front next, an american that went missing in china 12 years ago. new reports says he may be teaching english to the north korean dictator kim jong-un. his brother is my guest live coming up.
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tonight, an astonishing report claiming that an american student missing since 2004 is
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now living in north korea and working as an english tutor for kim jong-un. david sneddon then 24 years old had worked in south korea as a missionary for the church of latter-day saints. he went missing while hiking in china. when investigators failed to find any trace of him chinese authorities suggested he may have fallen to his death, but yahoo news japan reports that sneddon now lives in the capital of pyongyang with a wife and two kids. the state department officials tell cnn that they have investigated these claims and have found nothing to corroborate them or this most recent report. out front tonight we have david sneddon's brother, james. thanks so much for joining us tonight. >> sure. glad to be here. >> so you and your family have always believed your brother to be alive, and i know you've traveled to china several times to retrace his steps. what leads you to believe that there is something to back up and that these latest reports
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are credible? >> i think it's quite simple, from our perspective. this is essentially the story that we've been told for more than five years with information given to us by very credible organizations in the international community and this latest report really came as a surprise to us, and it just echoed things that we've already known. so that alone for us speaks of its veracity. >> and the substance, this is based on defectors from north korea coming to south korea who said that they've seen someone who fits your brother's identity? >> i don't know that we've determined the informant, if you will. i think mr. choi who provided the information has his sources and we need to determine who those informants are and to determine that credibility, and that's a likely scenario. >> now, i know this remains an enormous mystery, and based on the state department. the state department says it has
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looked into these for years and it hasn't found anything to back this up and what's your advice to the state department when it says that? >> it's a curious comment, i think, that the family often wonders. i think you have to look at what we set out to do 12 years ago. we went to china literally to find our brother and bring him home. we thought we would find him, and as we got more information about where he went and people that witnessed him, it was very clear that he did not die in the gorge. hiking it myself having hiked many years with my family in the mountains it's really kind of implausible. so we had that information and it wasn't until later in time when people came to us with the story that we had presented and they said, hey, you might look into this other scenario and it's mrauzic and it's an m.o. for north korea and we think it could be the solution for david's missing scenario and it grew from there and it came to us from other sources is what
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folks need to remember. >> james, is there support or backing from the u.s. government that you don't believe you're get. >> um, it's actually -- i think it's growing. i think the interest and the desire to resolve it is increasing and certainly this latest development improves that. we'd like to see more attention from investigative resources or even possibly the state department, but they have a history of also being very helpful and so, you know, it's a u.s. citizen. that's the bottom line. he went missing under unusual circumstances. if he is helping this regime it should be very concerning that we're empowering and strengthening them with expertise that they're operators, and i think it's something that we should look into and it should be an easy answer for most people. >> if it was possible that your brother were to hear you or somehow hear what you were saying to us tonight, what would
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you want to say to him? >> we haven't forgotten you, david. i think that's what we worry about most. there's no communication for him, we believe, and we just haven't forgotten and we're not going to stop until we at least know what happened? and we want you to come home. >> james sneddon, we wish you and your family the very best. thanks so much. >> thank you. >> and we'll be right back.
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thanks for joining us. i'm jim sciutto. for you east coasters, i hope it's a dry one. "ac dri krshgc 360." the fbi reveals what she told them and all of the time she told them she could not remember. she says she's glad it's out in the open and her supporters say it reveals no wrongdoing and donald trump says her answers defy belief. hermine now a tropical storm, the damage done so far in florida and up through the carolinas and who else could be in for a rough time in the days ahead. martin savidge joins us and he's in kill devil hills, north carolina. what is the storm like where you are? >> reporter: the winds have picked up, anderson, in just the last 20 minutes or so. the rain is coming down with a much greater force. coastal flooding is the biggest