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outreach meets outrage. donald trump greeted by protesters as he visits a black church in detroit. >> the african-american faith community has been one of god's greatest gifts to america. >> can he make headway with minority voters? plus, meet the new trump, same as the old trump? trump follows his diplomatic mission to mexico. >> it is a great honor to be invited by you, mr. president. >> with a heated speech on immigration. >> then we get them out! >> should republicans waiting for a pivot stop holding their breath?
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and, less than total recall. hillary clinton claims faulty memory when answering 39 questions about her e-mail server. the new details revealed in an fbi report. plus, the best political minds will be here with insights from the campaign trail. hello. i am jake tapper in washington where the state of our union is a bit breathless. we are, in fact, just 65 days away from picking our next president. labor day weekend is considered the unofficial kickoff of the campaign. this year it feels more like the start of the home stretch of an endless and endlessly fascinating election. after spending most of august hob-knobbing with the well-to-do to fund-raise hillary clinton hits the campaign trail tomorrow appearing at two labor day parades while vice president biden and bernie sanders and stump for her.
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donald trump spent yesterday at an african-american church aternedia attending services at great faith ministries in detroit. >> i'm here to learn so we can together remedy and reform and so that we can also remedy economics so that the african-american community can benefit economically through jobs and income and so many other different ways. >> trump is trying to make headway with minority voters, but he might have his work cut out for him if polls and the angry p angry protests outside the church are an indication. >> joining me now is former new york city mayor rudy giuliani. thank you for joining us. donald trump making an effort yesterday to reach out to african-americans. seems to have been welcomed by those inside the church. i have to say, in interviews many african-americans say they are still troubled by mr. trump
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having suggested over and over falsely that the first african-american president was born in africa and, thus, ineligible to be president. >> the interesting thing is the first one to make that claim was hillary clinton. >> well, not her herself. people around her. >> her campaign did. they were the first ones to bring it up. finally it was resolved after donald trump raised it. so -- they may have a faulty memory there as to where that issue first came from and what first suggested it. it was the clinton campaign. >> fair enough, sir, to say people around the clinton campaign brought that up. as you say, it was resolved in 2011 when he released his birth certificate. donald trump talking about this as recently as february of last year at cpac saying he thinks the birth certificate is false. should he just apologize for this to let, if he really wants to reach out to minority voters? >> you know, if everybody apologized for all the things they said in politics all we
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would be doing on television shows is apologizing. maybe a lot of the democrats should apologize for calling donald trump a racist and calling him all kinds of terrible names and -- it gets a little silly. let's get to the basic issue here. for years people say republicans don't reach out to the african-american community. well, he reached out to the african-american community. maybe it isn't a message of left-wing democratic politics, which, in my view, having been the mayor of a city that was rotting when i took it over on the front cover of "time" magazine, the rotting of the big apple, because of years of liberal-democratic policies, new york could be detroit if i hadn't turned it around. if i hadn't lowered taxes, gotten jobs for people, gotten jobs for people on welfare and straightened out a good deal of the education system. and moved away from dpependency. i moved 600,000 people off
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welfare. compare new york to detroit and baltimore, and look at the number of crimes in both of those cities and look at new york. you look at the unemployment rates, the economic opportunities. and you see that i think donald trump is the first republican since jack kemp, and me, to go into minority, poor communities and say, the democrats have failed you for 50 years and you are reflexively giving them your vote and they're going from bad to worse. food stamps have gone up two and a half times under -- food stamps have gone up two and a half times under barack obama. he should be ashamed of himself. jobs should have gone up two and a half times. >> i take your point. my only point is that many african-americans are still mad about donald trump having tried to invalidate barack obama by claiming he was born in africa. we're obviously not going to get anywhere. i want to ask you about mr. trump's trip to mexico. you played a pivotal role in that. the mexican president says that
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he began this meeting by saying that mexico would not pay for the wall that donald trump wants to build. according to the "wall street journal," you immediately jumped in. what did you say? >> no. what i said was it was off the table. we had -- we had ground rules for the meeting. one of them was we were not going to discuss paying for the wall because that's not something we're going to agree about. what we wanted to do was to find areas of common agreement and maybe the president's staff didn't brief him on it, maybe the president forgot it. but i mean, he brought it up. it wasn't right at the very beginning. it was sort of in a middle of a sentence. i briefly said, that's not on the table. the reality is they have a disagreement over that. they found many areas of agreement. i'll tell you one really interesting one is trade. mexico is suffering from the same trade problems with china that we're suffering from. all the same complaints that you hear from donald trump, president pena nieto would say exactly the same thing. the same kind of dumping, the
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same kind of violation of a lot of the trade rules and regulations. they're bringing cases against mexico -- against china and they're going nowhere. one of the things we've said we could do is we could join together in an alliance between the united states and mexico and see if we could bolster ourselves in terms of fair trade with china. we also found common ground in illegal immigration. they have a tremendous amount of illegal immigration into mexico from el salvador, guatemala, nicaragua. some stay in mexico, creating a problem for them. a lot of the people coming across the mexican border are not mexicans. they're people from the countries i just mentioned. in some cases isis has made clear they're going to take advantage of that open border to bring terrorists here. on the question of the wall, basically the president of mexico said that's your decision to make, you know. it's your decision whether to put up a wall or not. >> so -- >> so it was mostly -- it was
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mostly a very good, very productive conversation. i think -- i think donald trump learned a lot of what he probably knew anyway but it reinforced a lot of what we knew about trade and what we knew about areas in which we can agree. look, with all of our allies, we're going to have areas of agreement. we're going to have areas of disagreement. i think what donald trump displayed was his ability to be a president. >> a lot of pundits, even those who are skeptical of donald trump, seemed to give that meeting very high marks. there were reports that you and governor chris christie among others have been internally in the trump campaign pushing trump to do things more like that, more presidential in tone. for wont of a better word. later he went and gave an immigration speech that was so hard that even the republican national committee scrapped
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plans to praise the speech. did your side of the campaign win the morning but lose the night? >> no. we won both. both sides won. you have to read the ap story that came out of that speech. the ap story says donald trump retreats on mass deportation. it is true the speech was delivered in -- i would say in a dramatic style because it was a rally audience. if you read speech carefully, that speech is consistent with what he has said in the past, and it leaves a very big opening for what will happen with the people that remain here in the united states after the criminals are removed and after the border is secure. and he says in a very, very important sentence, which everybody seemed to ignore, but a.p., he says there, at that time, when america is safe, we will be open to all of the options. meaning that donald trump, as he expressed in one of his
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interviews recently, would find it very, very difficult to throw out a family that's been here for 15 years and they have three children, two of whom are citizens. and that is not the kind of america he wants. his main focus of that speech -- and i think the reason for the emotion in it was because of all the mothers who came up whose children were killed by illegal criminal immigrants. >> right. >> and all of the policies -- all ten policies are largely directed toward criminal illegal immigrants, which the obama administration releases into the streets of our city. >> let me just -- >> which is actually -- they have an insane policy. i was a prosecutor most of my life. called catch and release. they catch criminals and they release them. >> i just want to understand what you're saying here. so mr. trump will not be trying to kick out the dreamers. he will not be having a deportation force and he would
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no longer want to get all 11 million undocumented immigrants out of this country? >> what he said in the speech is, after we secure the border and after we remove the criminal illegal immigrants, to a large extent -- you're never going to get to 100%. then and only then can we look at this in a very rational way in which we can look at all the options and be open to all the options. >> he doesn't want to separate families, as you say? >> well, i would say that would be one of the things that would be pretty clear. there are other options too. it depends on the person. some of these people could have been on welfare for the last 30 years, or taking benefits or cheating. and maybe some of them have to be thrown out. but not necessarily all of them. that's the point that he was making in the speech. and i agree with you that point got lost to some extent in the emotion of the moment. the emotion of the moment were the 10 mothers and two fathers who came up who have been killed by illegal immigrants released
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because of the incompetent policies of the obama administration, which hillary clinton is just going to continue. >> all right. mr. mayor, thank you very much. we appreciate your time as always. fbi releasing details about the investigation into hillary clinton. what does the report reveal? stay with us.
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show more of you. welcome back to "state of the union." holiday weekend such as this one for most people means barbecues and the beach. over at the fbi it means it's time for a document dump. on friday the fbi released details of its investigation into hillary clinton's use of a private e-mail server, including a summary of her interview at fbi headquarters. the agency determined no criminal behavior. but the report suggestis a lack of understanding by clinton about classification methods. joining me is labor secretary tom perez who is here in his personal capacity as a hillary clinton supporter, not as a member of the cabinet.
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mr. perez, thanks for being here. >> great to be here in my personal capacity. happy labor day to everyone. >> i know you're eager to talk about donald trump and his trip to mexico. first i have to ask you about this fbi report. it says that on 39 separate occasions clinton told the fbi she did not recall or remember key elements of the training or classified information process. that's not the kind of thing that fills a lot of voters, i think, with confidence given all the doubts about her honesty and trustwort trustworthiness. >> it was secretary clinton who wanted the documents released to make sure that everything was out there. she has said many times that she should not have had a personal server. she accepts responsibility for that. she wanted the reports released because they show a thorough revr review was conducted. >> the fbi found 15,000 e-mails
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that she should have turned over to the state department but did not. >> all those things are being discussed right now. and she has said, if there are other documents out there that the state department has found or anyone else has found out there, bring them out there, bring them into the sunlight. i am hard pressed to think of an issue that has been more thoroughly discussed. and what we see from the justice department, from jim comey, you know, deputy attorney general in the bush administration, was that they looked at this thoroughly and there was no reason to move forward. and that's what the -- the report that was released friday shows, and that's what the evidence show snoos ta. >> listen to secretary clinton last october when i asked her whether she should have known better than to use the private e-mail server. >> i dealt with classified information very carefully and seriously. i usually met with people to discuss it. it was delivered to me in hard copy, so marked. and then, when i travelled, i had one of those tents, because
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we were afraid of prying eyes from certain governments, that i would read classified material in. so i am very familiar with the importance of treating classified information as it should be, with great care. >> she says she is very familiar with how classified information should be treated. yet in the fbi report she says she didn't pay attention to the level of classification and she thought the "c" marking stood for paragraph orders. it doesn't sound like somebody very familiar with the classification system. >> if you look at the report the fbi issued, you'll see that there were a lot of markings that were, at times, incorrect and ambiguous. and weren't in keeping with what the department of justice would have in place when they're marking documents that are confidential. so again, she has discussed this. and the -- and she is the first to acknowledge that she shouldn't have had a personal server. she has learned a lot from this. she recognizes that she shouldn't have done that.
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she has said it many times. the fbi report, they looked at it thoroughly. a lot of these documents were retroactively reclassified. so the classification system presented challenges as well. so, again, i think this has been investigated very, very thoroughly. and she understands that she shouldn't have done it and i think has learned a lot from it. >> let's talk about illegal immigration, especially as it pertains to the campaign trail. you just heard mayor rudy giuliani say there is actually an opening in donald trump's speech for non-criminal undocumented immigrants to maybe stay in this country. what did you make of what the mayor had to say? >> well, donald trump should have gone to the olympics as a gymnast, a lot of contorsionism there. let's face it. if you are trying to be -- first of all, kind and gentle and donald trump are never in the same sentence. it's an oxymoron.
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you look at what he did throughout the campaign including this past week, and it's doubling down against immigrants. he wants to deport 16 million undocumented immigrants. he wants to deport 4 million u.s. citizens, children of undocumented immigrants by repealing birth-right citizenship. if you're trying to get kinder and gentler, it's a curious strategy to have joe arpaio introduce you at a speech. he has been held in contempt for racial profiling latinos by a judge appointed by george w. bush. joe arpaio is one of, i think -- he stands for what donald trump stands for, and that is mexicans are rapists. they're -- if i had been donald trump, the first thing i would have done with the president is apologized for making those -- >> to the mexican president. >> -- obnoxious remarks.
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last week is a perfect illustration of why donald trump is unfit to be president. these are turbulent times. you need a steady hand. hillary clinton is a steady hand. he is a loose cannon. >> take a listen to president bill clinton at the 1995 state of the union address. >> all americans, not only in the states most heavily affected but every place in the country are rightly disturbed by the large numbers of illegal aliens entering our country. the jobs they hold might otherwise be held by citizens or legal immigrants. the public service they use impose burdens on our taxpayers. that's why our administration moved aggressively to hire more border guards and deport twice as many ill legal aliens.
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by barring benefits to illegal aliens. >> as a policy matter how is that different from what donald trump is proposing? >> donald trump is proposing to deport 4 million u.s.-born children of undocumented parents. donald trump believes that you cannot do anything in this country, basically, if you are an undocumented immigrant. donald trump has said that he is going to repeal the dreamer program so that that young woman i read about recently who was at the top of her class, a dreamer who started i think at yale, she is out of luck. donald trump, you know, has said that mexicans are rapists and murderers. rapists and drug dealers. and that -- you judge a person by their actions. and donald trump has repeatedly sent a very clear signal. when you are hanging out with the likes of joe arpaio, you're sending a very clear signal to the latino community that, you know what, i am not with you. if you are waiting for donald
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trump -- if you're holding your breath for donald trump to come up with sensible latino outreach strategy or african-american outreach strategy, you're going to die of asphyxia, because he doesn't have one. >> tom perez, the labor secretary who is here in his personal capacity as a hillary clinton supporter. thank you for joining us. coming up, bad blood. donald trump slammed john mccain saying the prisoner of war was not a hero. now the senator takes a jab at trump in a campaign ad. hear what the arizona senator had to say next. you're choosing more complete allergy relief and all the enjoyment that comes along with it. when we breathe in allergens, our bodies react by overproducing 6 key inflammatory substances. most allergy pills only control 1. flonase controls 6. and six is greater than one. with flonase, more complete relief means enjoyment of every beautiful moment. flonase, six is greater than one, changes everything.
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it's been 20 years since the state of arizona went blue in a presidential contest. but after donald trump's tough immigration speech there wednesday night, hillary clinton's campaign announced a six-figure ad buy in the state making a play for the grand canyon state as polling shows a competitive race there. here is mr. trump in arizona.
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>> while there are many illegal immigrants in our country who are good people, many, many, this doesn't change the fact that most illegal immigrants are lower-skilled workers with less education who compete directly against vulnerable american workers. >> noticeably absent from the event arizona's republican senator jeff flake who has loudly disagreed with trump. he joins us now. senator good to see you. thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me on. >> the last time we spoke you said you did not know what you were going to do on election day. you must have a pretty good idea by now, though. if the election were held today, for whom would you vote? >> i would not vote for hillary clinton. and as of now i would still not vote for donald trump. >> so if you -- if you don't want to vote for either of them, would you vote for gary johnson, the libertarian? >> you can always write somebody in. i just know that i would like to vote for donald trump.
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it's not comfortable to not support your nominee, but given the positions he has taken and the tone and tenor of his campaign, i simply can't. >> the rnc was planning to praise donald trump's speech on immigration in your home state a few days ago. but once officials of the rnc heard the speech, they dropped plans to praise the speech. that's pretty remarkable for the rnc not to praise a speech of the republican nominee. >> well, it was a pretty remarkable speech in that it just really doubled down on a lot of the rhetoric that he has used before, and it really didn't explain with any clarity where he is going to move ahead in the future. it simply went back to am so of t -- some of the positions he has taken. >> you didn't buy rudy giuliani's position this morning saying there was a line that people didn't pay enough attention to that would allow for possibly a discussion of letting undocumented immigrants stay in this country after the ones who have committed other
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criminal acts are deported? >> if it was there, it was buried pretty deep. no, i didn't catch it. there was just the statement that you're going back. and think of that for a bit. if you have 11 million would are undocumented here, a lot of those are children who are brought across the border when they were 2 years old, say. what he is saying is that they would all have to go back -- or this is what i heard -- and then that they would perhaps be able to come back here in the future. but if there aren't visa categories to accept those who have been deported, then they wouldn't be able to come back. or they would have to remain out for a long period of time until i guess some vague talk of a commission would create a visa category for them to come back. >> so hillary clinton's campaign, after the speech in arizona, as i am sure you know, announced that they would take out a 6-figure ad buy in arizona. it's been 20 years since the state went for a democratic presidential nominee. take a look at the cnn poll
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showing trump ahead of clinton but only by five points. do you think that trump is comfortably ahead, or does clinton have a chance of winning arizona? >> well, it shouldn't be close. we went big, i think, eight points for mitt romney last time. arizona should still be a red state. but donald trump, with the rhetoric that he has used and the characterizations of, you know, many of the state's population have put the state in play. and unfortunately, you know, that leads to democrats spending a lot of money here. unfortunately for republicans. i think john mccain will be fine. he did very well in the primary last week. a lot of the down-ballot republicans will be fine as long as they aren't seen as, you know, believing the same things that donald trump believes in. >> you think hillary clinton could win arizona potentially because of donald trump's rhetoric? >> yes. i do. >> senator john mccain, as you note, is up for re-election this year. listen to this from his new
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campaign video. >> if hillary clinton is elected president, arizona will need a senator who will act as a check, not a rubber stamp, for the white house. >> it's interesting mccain presenting himself as a check on a president clinton rather than as an ally of president trump who he doesn't even mention donald trump in the video. is this the right argument for republicans to be making, essentially the same as in 1986 when they were convinced that bob dole would lose? >> well, i've said that i think republicans do need to distance themselves from donald trump. i am not suggesting that john mccain has to do that. he is running a smart campaign and he has broad and deep support here. but i do think it's a position that republicans ought to take. we cannot, for the future of the party, be associated with this kind of message and with this kind of tone and tenor. it's just -- it's not good for the party. it really isn't. >> when you listen to hillary clinton's speech about donald
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trump appealing to the darker parts of this country, appealing to racism essentially, did you agree or disagree with what she had to say? >> well, i have been saying that long before hillary clinton was talking about it. i think a lot of us have been. i think that's the problem that we have. when you -- when you refer to a judge born in indiana as a mexican in a pejorative way, when you refer to john mccain as he has, you can't respect him because he wasn't -- he was captured, or you refer to those who crossed the border as rapists, you know, you just can't appeal to a broad swath of the electorate. and so, if -- even if republicans all lined up behind donald trump in arizona, it still wouldn't be enough. you have got to appeal to swing voters, to independents. he is just going out of his way, it seems, to offend them. >> one last question, sir. if hillary clinton does win the election, would you want mitch
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mcconnell to bring up merrick garland as soon as possible. or do you fear she would appoint somebody even more liberal? >> i would like him to bring him up. the principle ought to be for republicans to confirm the most conservative jurist we are able to confirm. if we do lose the election we ought to move swiftly to confirm merrick garland. >> thank you for your time. coming up a latino trump supporter warns the result of too much immigration will be, quote, taco trucks on every corner. dangerous or delicious? that story next. that was it. now i have nicoderm cq. the nicoderm cq patch with unique extended release technology helps prevent your urge to smoke all day. it's the best thing that ever happened to me. every great why needs a great how.
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my culture is a very dominant culture. and it's imposing and it's causing problems. if you don't do something about it, you're going to have taco trucks every corner.
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>> marco gutierrez, the founder of latinos for trump. democrats have seized on the taco trucks on every corner language. one democratic councilman in wisconsin set up a truck hoping to register voters there. joining me bakari sellers and rachel garcia. kerston powers and andre bauer. rachel, starting with you. taco trucks on every corner? >> the answer to the pressing question. the tease is delicious. we could use a few more up in northwestern wisconsin where i live. what i think is interesting is taco trucks really are the ultimate symbol of american entrepreneurial capitalism. i think what people want to know is not what some first-time surrogate said. they want to know is who will
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help people who want to start taco trucks. the policies overregulating food trucks. in nevada we have a former attorney general shutting down -- he is running for senate -- shutting down uber. people want to know is who is going to help people start businesses, let them grow, become financially independent. liberals overregulate these small business owners and conservatives help them achieve the american dream. >> excellent pivot. >> i have never seen spin like that. >> it's true. >> i give you credit for it. what we know is that donald trump gave a speech that was full of desperation, despair this past week. we still don't know what he'll do. i heard rudy giuliani on your show earlier. we still don't know what he'll do with the 10 million people here who are not criminals. i think donald trump is perpetuating stereotypes that are detrimental to republicans growing their base. >> a story was tweeted out that
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hillary clinton is actually doing worse with latino voters now than a few weeks ago according to a poll. her favorability fell to 55% from 68%. it says she is not doing particularly better with latinos than other democrats have done. why not? >> i don't know why not. but she is doing much, much better than donald trump. that's the bottom line. his approval rating is 21% in the same poll. so her approval rating, i'll take 55% over 21%. in this article they talk about she needs to do more outreach or run more ads in the latino community. at the end of the day he is under water and she is above water. >> she has had ever advantage in the latino community. spanish language media is basically another wing of her party. the reason she is doing bad is hispanics leave countries where there is corruption on the level that we're seeing right now with hillary clinton. i mean, this is not -- her
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numbers are in double digits but in the last month as her scandals have increased, that's why we're seeing the drop. >> she hasn't spent any money, per se. barack obama -- he doesn't have the money to spend. barack obama didn't spend the money until mid-september. >> to be clear she is not doing badly. in the usa today poll two-thirds of latino voters are voting for her. >> but it does feed into kind of this meme out there about donald trump and i don't know that he did himself any favors with his speech the other night when it came to the latino community, no matter what rudy giuliani says, was buried in the speech in terms of the policy, a lot of latinos for trump quit latinos
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for trump after that speech. >> only two that i know of. >> that's still -- still a pretty good group. when you have a group called latinos for trump and they leave trump after his major speech on immigration. >> when you are a leader and you take a strong stand you don't make everybody happy. he did a very good job meeting with the president. he acted differently in a different rally, well, the president is going this week to the g 20 summit. he won't talk to that group like he would to the democratic convention. they're two different audience es. you see the numbers changing. we're getting closer now. it's almost an even race. labor day is around the corner. he said he would kick the campaign in labor day. the message is, i like the taco truck analogy. those are business owners, working hard. we don't want people here stealing the hub caps. >> he was saying we don't want taco trucks. listen to what hillary clinton has been saying over the past year about her e-mails.
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>> we turned over everything that was work-related. every single thing. personal stuff we did not. and all i can tell you is that i turned over every work-related e-mail in my possession. i turned over everything. >> we now know from the fbi that she did not, there were 15,000 e-mails that were work-related. >> we don't know that. we know there were 15,000 e-mails -- we don't know what they are. if they're work related, personal or duplicates. >> the fbi says 14,300 were work related. they're not sure if they were duplicates. that's true. they are looking into them. >> they said work and personal, i thought. regardless. we stay down this rabbit hole and chase the smoke where there is no fire. we've been doing that with hillary clinton for a very long period of time. the most amazing thing is this week hillary clinton released a comprehensive mental health proposal. we covered anthony wiener. >> not irrelevant to the topic, by the way. >> pivoting.
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>> this is a pivot. but to actually get on the issue, we know that donald trump actually had a foundation that was pay to play and we're back to e-mails. what we're talking about today with these e-mails, people are sick and tired of chasing the smoke where there is no fire. >> what's interesting to me is that you just had jeff flake on, you just showed this commercial from john mccain. you have people within the republican party and the conservative movement who are willing to look at a candidate and be really honest about what his flaws and what his strengths are. and it's so fascinating to me that, on the democrat side, you have this level of corruption -- this is not a small thing. this is somebody who is taking a charity, using it as a front -- >> that's not true, though. >> it is. >> it is not. you can't say a charity who actually has helped children get hiv and aids medication -- >> and helped blumenthal to get a job. that's not part of the charity. >> how much money has hillary clinton and bill clinton gotten from the clinton foundation. >> a lot. >> they have not.
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they have $50 million in travel. it's absurd. we know it's absurd because she released her tax returns. she has received not a dollar from the clinton foundation. >> she has gotten millions of dollars from giving speeches. >> people who have given to the foundation. you will sit here and defend that -- >> i will defend the clinton foundation until i'm blue in the face. >> kirsten, you are a democrat who has been willing to criticize the clintons. >> they don't make money off the foundation. they don't receive salaries from it. it's been rated by the people who rate the charities as -- >> they refuse to rate it anymore. >> they did unless this last week. they did give it an a rating. >> they give it an a rating. the foundation stuff is being blown out of proportion, the
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e-mails has become something that a lot of people are concerned about. it's affected her trust numbers. deservedly so. she has said so herself. >> andre, a lot of democrats feel the distrust stuff is already baked into these numbers, though. >> you are seeing the numbers continue to drop. nothing will ever happen. 228 people within the justice department have given to her campaign. you know nothing will happen. again, it reinforces -- if you wonder why you can't get her anywhere to interview her, she doesn't want to have to lie anymore. it's coverup after coverup. the numbers are reinforced. >> congratulations on your agentagen eighth baby. >> i'm going to single handedly solve this vote on the conservative side. >> the rising numbers in wisconsin. it's rachel. governor rick perry could be a winner on "dancing with the star stars", it's inspired this
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issue. >> commerce, education and the -- what's the third one there? oops. >> is "dancing with the stars" perhaps a new landing pad for presidential also-rans. we saw bernie sanders earlier in the campaign boogie down to saturday night fever on ellen. while earlier this week we saw chris christie grooving at a springsteen show. we're unlikely to see them or clinton or trump show up on "dancing with the stars," though, sadly, or maybe gladly, as i imagine hillary clinton on the show doing it gangdem style. and then of course is the notion of mr. trump doing the macarena. i suppose stranger things have happened this election. that's nonsense, thank you for
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