stay. but just a few, because the majority, as he clearly said, have to leave. and things are going to be made so difficult for you, that you won't be able to stay here. >> thank you for your perspecti perspective. >> thank you so much. we're following a lot of news, including this new cnn national poll. so let's get right to it. >> just don't think she's presidential. >> the best i can tell is donald trump is for building a big wall. >> stop the drugs, get rid of the bad ones. >> i'm confident she is doing it by the book. >> making a political contribution to the florida attorney general, there are so many things that are questionable about that. >> i think i'm going to do great with the african-american people. people can't walk down the street without getting shot. i'll stop that. >> if you can't meet the
standard of richard nixon, god help you, folks. >> president's overseas trip over shadowed by a diplomatic spat. >> i always want to make sure that if i'm having a meeting, that it's actually productive. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. good morning. welcome to your new day. >> don't make us wait for the good morning. >> i was waiting for the shot to be on us locked and tight. we don't want to waste all this. up first hillary clinton and donald trump are locked in a dead heat in a new cnn national poll here in the final stretch of this frenzied campaign. >> get all your calendars. the new numbers come 63 days before election day. the first votes, though, will be cast in just 17 days. that's when early voting begins in some states. and the first debate is 20 days away.
we have this high stakes race covered from every angle. let's begin with david chalian. he has all of the other numbers for us. >> let's start with that horse race. take a look at the four-way race. and this is among likely voters. donald trump, hillary clinton in a margin of error race. he's at 45%. clinton at 43%. johnson at 7%. stein at 2%. 62 days out, likely voters is where we're looking. let's take a look at some of the groups that are driving these numbers. independents, a key voting bloc, donald trump is winning by 20 points. mitt romney won independents by five points and still lost the election to president obama. hillary clinton is going to have some work to do there. women voters -- this is fascinating. look at how single women, they
go for hillary clinton by a 53-point margin. donald trump is winning married women by 17 points. this is a traditional democratic republican divide, but we're seeing it on steroids this time around. hillary clinton winning women overall by 15 points. take a look at voter enthusiasm. this is critical. look at now to years past. among the extremely enthusiastic about voting, 46% say they fit that category now. that compares to 57% at this time four years ago, 60% in '08. we'll see if that number changes. look at how it changes when you look at enthusiasm between the candidates. 58% of trump voters say they're very or extremely enthusiastic about voting. that compares to 46% of clinton voters. hillary clinton and her team are going to want to narrow this
gap. the issues, the economy number one issue. donald trump winning 51% to 46%. on terrorism he's got a six-point lead. on immigration, basically tied. hillary clinton has a two-point edge. on foreign policy, she's got a 16-point edge. well, the final sprint playing out in a big way in ohio. trump was there engaging in retail politics and clinton answered questions from the press on her plane. that's not all. trump again pivoting on his immigration plan. phil mattingly joining us now with more. >> you live in a swing state. ohio was a pretty good example of what you're going to be dealing with over the course of the next 63 days. both candidates, both running mates, a lot of surrogates on
the ground, because battleground states are what's going to decide who wins in november. both candidates taking time with the media answering questions as they get ready for this two-month sprint. hillary clinton, donald trump, inviting the press to travel with them for the first time on their campaign planes. >> it's nice everyone's here. >> both planes just a few hundred feet apart on the same tarmac in cleveland. inside trump's boeing 757, the billionaire modeling his stance on immigration again. >> we're going to make that decision into the future. >> the gop nominee now saying he'll decide later on whether undocumented immigrants could apply for legal status under his administration. >> i'm not ruling out anything. to become a citizen you're going to have to go out and come back in. >> a question ruled out less than a week ago.
>> for those here illegally today who are seeking legal status, they will have one route and one route only. >> trump spending labor day looking and acting more like a traditional politician. glad handing at ohio's largest county fair and courting voters at a diner with his running mate. hillary clinton barnstorming ohio with her top supporters and deploying her former rifle to new hampshire. the former secretary of state battling a coughing fit at a rally. >> every time i think about trump, i get allergic. >> answering questions about her health after months of criticism. slamming trump for cozying up to vladimir putin. >> i think it's quite intriguing that this activity has happened around the time trump became the
nominee. >> as investigations continue into whether russia hacked the democratic national committee. >> he very early on allied himself with putin's policies. >> while trump is dismissing allegations of impropriety. p >> around the same time the irs says the trump foundation improperly donated $25,000 to a group supporting her reelection. trump insisting he never discussed the investigation with bondi. >> she's a fine person. never spoke to her at all. >> bondi ultimately deciding not to proceed with the investigation. >> there are so many things that are questionable about that and the irs certainly thought so and said it was illegal. >> this is an issue the clinton
campaign wants to continue to attack on. they've obviously been on defense in the clinton foundation. they say there is explicit evidence of pay to play. hillary clinton will be in florida today. donald trump in virginia and north carolina. battleground states, get ready, the candidates are coming your way. >> we have former senior advisor to bill clinton and boris epstein. the shift on emigration is working for you, boris. you see those poll numbers? it's getting to be a close race. is that why trump is trying to expand his definition of what will happen with people who are in the country undocumented right now tor, to appeal to a broader base of voters? >> interestingly it's a perceived shift. trump is exactly where he has been for the past year.
one, deport all criminals, end sanctuary cities. once you've executed the plan, then you deal with the remaining illegal immigrants. according to the laws on the books now, then you contrast that with the hillary clinton plan which is amnesty, 550% increase in syrian refugees. >> the difference is clinton's plan has not changed. trump's has. >> it's not the change when you don't have a plan. >> this does not seem like a consistent plan to me. i think what it shows is that donald trump, we don't know what he believes in if he believes in anything. i don't think he understands the issue. this is another example of him saying anything that seems smart to get him votes. there is such a double standard here i think in the media and in some of the electorate. you just said when he changes
his position, he's expanding his base. when hillary clinton makes one little adjustment, she's a flip-flopper. i think that this is another example of the double standard. >> i couldn't disagree more. >> but i will say that the race is indeed close. i think it's going to be a close race. i always thought it was going to be a close race. the bar is very low for donald trump right now. his new handlers will undoubtedly have days where they succeed and he does not seem like a madman. but i do think the voter dos not have amnesia and they know he has been all over the place. >> this is an 11-point swing in the polls from hillary clinton being up by a huge amount to us being up by two points. here's why. the voters do not trust hillary clinton. over 70% of people don't trust her. because of the e-mails, because of the news that just came out on friday. they destroyed blackberries with
hammers in the white house. she had 13 blackberries and five ipads. that's mobsters having burner phones. >> every development in the e-mail or the foundation you see all over the media. here we pick it apart a little bit better. that's the job. where is the high ground for donald trump? the list of controversies under his name is like five times as long as hillary clinton. >> absolutely not. >> please. all the different lawsuits -- i'm not saying illegalities. pam bondi's situation -- >> hillary clinton broke the law while she was secretary of state. >> she did not break the law. >> let's look at the dates. march 2nd the "new york times" puts out that there's a secret server. march 3rd there's a preservation
letter. in late march the hillary clinton state department wipes her secret server. >> the fbi looked at it and brought no charges. >> they decided not to bring charges who knows why. maybe it's because bill clinton sat on the tarmac with loretta lynch. >> you had the fbi look at it and they said no. you guys don't seem to want to deal with it. >> you can't have an independent opinion of it? >> you can have it but you also have an objective finding by the fbi. as a lawyer, as a political matter you can talk about it all day, but the political issue remains, the trust issue in this poll. it's not just that both of them have unbelievable and deplorably low trust numbers chr, which th do, historically trump and
clinton. 50% think he's more trustworthy than her. >> i think this has been the most negative campaign we've seen. all participants bear some responsibility, including the media. hillary clinton over the course of the campaign -- >> neither of you are victims of the media. >> no, no. everybody knows the kind of -- >> but we don't take the words and put them in donald trump's mouth. >> everybody knows the kind of double standard that hillary clinton is subjected to by the media. she has to show herself, she has to show her compassionate side, she has to show her personal side. she has to get up close and personal -- >> you can't show things that don't exist. >> she will show that during the debates. i have known hillary clinton for over 25 years and i know she is not only trustworthy, but she is personable. she has a long record of caring
for people and caring for children and caring for people who need help. >> here's her record. >> hold on. >> hold on. >> may i -- >> not the donald trump who makes fun of people who are disabled. >> her record is white water, the clinton foundation taking money from governments when they said it wouldn't. and her record is not knowing that c stood as classified as confidential. what did it stand for? cookie? >> boris, let's talk about some issues. [ all speaking at once ] >> gentlemen, please. both campaigns have made a decision to talk about why the other person is a worse person. >> i'd love to talk about that. >> one of the issues we are dealing with today is it is interesting for the trump campaign to go after the clinton foundation when you have the irs
banging your charity for an illegal -- >> 25 bucks. >> if she did that, you'd be running around with the constitution over her head saying she broke the law. >> 49 attorney generals have not brought that case. why? because there's no merit to it. >> we'll discuss this in the break. not bringing a case doesn't mean you don't have a case to make. it's different. >> you just said that about the fbi. >> you're saying 49 states looked at trump university and decided not to bring the case. you didn't say that because it would be false. >> thank you very much. why deprive everyone and just do it in the break? vice president joe biden does not hold back when it comes to hillary clinton's campaign. listen. >> look, look, i have a bad habit of saying what i believe and sometimes saying all that i mean here. the truth is hillary knows it's
labor day rally there. to see joe biden back on the road for really what is his final campaign trying to teach tim kaine a thing or two about this race was interesting. but we started out by asking joe biden why hillary clinton is still struggling winning over those white working class voters. >> my advice to hillary always is, just open up, let them see your heart a little more. she has the heart. >> does she need to do more explaining on some of these controversies like e-mail and other things, or should she stop explaining? >> well, i think she's -- my understanding is she is going to make a final judgment about what they're going to do with the foundation and just lay it all out. this is what's going to happen from this point on. this is who i am, this is what i'm going to do. >> has she not been clear enough? >> well, it's been a moving target. look, the whole notion of how
foundations function is now all of a sudden being put in play like it never was before. so i'm absolutely confident she is doing it by the book and i think she is going to figure out what she's going to say crystal clear to the american people about what the relationship between the family and the foundation will be from this point forward. >> one of the things that's interesting is she made a commitment about the foundation activities, we'll stop taking donations from certain groups. and after the election an additional commitment about president clinton stepping back. the trump foundation used charitable monies to make an illegal campaign contribution to a florida attorney general who is considering where to sue trump university or not. >> one of the things that is alive and well in the democratic party is tpp. what are you and the president going to do to get secretary
clinton on board with this? >> they're people of principle. they don't think it's a good enough deal to support. the president and i think it is. in this attempt we're going to attempt on a lame duck to actually have a vote. there's going to be some additional changes that are going to have to take place. it's about allowing us to compete on an even field by making sure there are labor standards and everybody is treated the same way. we think if we don't do that, then the chinese are going to set the rules. we've got some convincing to do. i take tim at his word that he's not for it. >> you're recent converts to this opposition to tpp. >> labor understands the value of trade if it's done right. we just want to make sure the standards are right. i voted for president obama to have the fast track tools to negotiate the best deal possible. there's three criteria, does it
increase jobs, increase wages and improve national security. and the enforcement areas, i've got grave doubts about it. i want to give you the tools to negotiate the best deal, but we're going to have to look at it on the merits. i have some major concerns about whether a deal can be enforced. we all understand -- and labor does too -- that trade done right is good for the economy. >> i remember eight years ago when you said senator obama could be the last man standing in a room, has secretary clinton made that same commitment to you about what type of vice president you would be, you could be? >> she asked me to be her vice president and i started to say yes and she said wait a minute, i want to tell you why. then she said, look, the test of a clinton administration is not going to be a bill signing or the margin that something passes. it's going to be is somebody's neighborhood a little better or
does somebody sitting around a kitchen table have more tools to figure out how to pay for college. and because you've been at the local level and the state level and the federal level, i think you're help me figure out how to govern so that it really is affecting people's lives. that's why she asked me to do the job. that tells you something about the way she's thinking. it's about making a real difference in people's lives. >> anyone piece of advice you'd give him, something you wish you had known eight years ago before step into the vice presidency? >> understand that the bureaucracy is gigantic. take control of it, grab it by the throat and make sure you follow up in detail on whatever initiative the president gives you. >> that was a bit of a passing of the torch moment, at least they hope so here, if hillary clinton and tim kaine are successful in november. but joe biden and barack obama are going to be out campaigning more than any sitting vice
president or president have in more than a generation here trying to keep the white house in democratic hands. >> going to be an interesting next few weeks. thank you so much. >> we're seeing that play out in realtime in the new cnn poll. clinton's post convention bounce is gone. we're going to break down her strengths, weaknesses and what can be done in these -- how many days? >> 63. >> 63 days before election day. , the launch window. we have to be very precise. if we're not ready when the planets are perfectly aligned, that's it. we need really tight temperature controls. engineering, aerodynamics- a split second too long could mean scrapping it all and starting over. propulsion, structural analysis- maple bourbon caramel. that's what we're working on right now. from design through production, siemens technology helps manufacturers meet critical deadlines. i think this'll be our biggest flavor yet. when you only have one shot, you need a whole lot of ingenuity.
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bump she had from the convention has been erased and they're now in this dead heat? >> i think this was somewhat expected, that things would even out a little bit. this is where the country is. it's very divided. we're going to see these very close races. even when hillary was up at points six or seven points, i think the expectation was it would probably settle into something more like this. independents seem to be preferring trump. that would be of real concern, i think, to the clinton campaign. >> we have that. trump gets 49% to clinton's 29%. but that is a big double digit lead for donald trump with independents. >> when you look at the map, she's still closer to being able to get a suggestion of an election because of where she is
with those votes. do you buy that? >> i think that's true. i think the map does favor her more. but at the same time we've seen a couple polls coming out that show that trump is doing well in michigan and iowa for example. there are places where there are large white working class voting blocs that seem to be preferring donald trump more. i think that's something that is of concern to them. i frankly don't think this poll is of much surprise to the clinton campaign. i think they've been concerned that people are assuming that it's in the bag and that hillary clinton is going to win, when in fact we have a divided electorate. and we have an electorate that really prefers change at this point. i think there's a lot of dissatisfied people that are very unhappy with the status quo, and donald trump to them seems to represent a change. >> let's look at the gender gap. it's almost exactly inverse. more women prefer hillary clinton, 53% to donald trump's
38%. more men prefer trump, 54% to her 32%. so what's the answer moving forward for these candidates to win over the opposite gender? >> well, i think it's difficult. there's been a gender gap between the parties for quite some time. this isn't something that's unique to this race. you know, you've seen more women voting for democrats and more men voting for republicans. and the expectation is that this race is on track basically to see historic levels in the gender gap. so i don't know that there's a lot that can be done to address that, frankly, because you have women preferring democrats typically because they feel -- they align more with a party that provides a social safety net because women often feel much more vulnerable than men do. it's difficult for donald trump who has his own unique problems
with women and for hillary clinton who has problems with white working class men. >> the change agent doesn't set up donald trump as exactly that. is that why we see this election even being close? because if you look at the historical cycle play, this should be the gop's race to win. >> well, this is such an unusual race, because you have a republican nominee who doesn't even have the support of a lot of the people in his own party. so that makes it unique in that way. and then you have a very unpopular democratic nominee. i think honestly if joe biden was running against donald trump, you might be seeing a different race. i think if you had somebody who was connecting with those white working class men the way joe biden would, somebody who didn't have the trust numbers she has, i think you might be seeing a different race. but this is what we have. we have two people who are not seen as being the most trustworthy people. >> we've never seen numbers as
high of lack of trust as we do in this election. i think it's pretty much colored the whole environment. >> yeah, it has. one thing about the race is that it's obviously -- this is not a trust election. if it was, neither of these people would have won the nominations in their parties. they've both had the worst trustworthy, honesty numbers in their respective parties running for the nomination. so if that had been the top issue, then we would have seen john kasich or jeb bush or bernie sanders winning. it's not coming down to a trust issue in terms of whether you're honest or not. it's coming down to who do you trust to be the best leader. who do you trust with the nuclear codes. up next, family matters on the road to the white house. what are we learning about the
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the trump kids address their father's divorce. family issues matter in politics. in fact, the personal seems to resonate with you guys more than policy ever does. how will these play out on election day? less's discuss with amanda carpenter and hillary rosen. good to have you both. let's play a piece of sound and react. i think we will start with the trump kids talking about the divorce they had to live through as so many do in this country and what it means to them today. >> you didn't talk to you dad for a year or so. can you talk a little bit about why that was and how you felt?
>> i was 12. you think you're a man. you're starting to feel like you are, but you don't really understand the way everything else works. it was a difficult time. it was certainly difficult reading about it in the papers every day on the way to school. >> i read this story about you that when you heard about it, you asked your mom if you were still going to be ivanka trump. is that a true story? >> yeah. i think i was digesting things and trying to understand as a 10 or 11-year-old would, the implications to me and my life and my relationship with my parents individually and collectively. >> divorce is terrible for kids. we all know that personally and professionally. the question is how will that experience in trump's life resonate with voters? amanda, what's your take? >> here's the thing. as we get into this one on one matchup there is a lot of interesting questions, drama
related to both candidates in terms of marriage, fidelity and how they endured problems within those relationships. your family, those are the closest relationships you will have. and how you prioritize them, how you remain committed to them, i think you can see in both the candidates they have found a way to remain committed to their family in different ways. trump had the divorce so it's a little bit different because hillary and bill ultimately did stay together. but the question of enduring relationships among both candidates is something that will be explored a lot through this campaign. >> this is something we always hope hillary wouldn't matter to voters, certainly in their own personal lives, it's all very clear. nobody cheats like americans do, nobody has more divorces than we do. but in our leaders we tend to judge it more sharply. the sharp focus on this will obviously be lewinsky from the
clint clinto clintons' side. >> how difficult was it to go through something so private, so personal under the glare of the spotlight as the first lady? >> it was really hard. it was painful. and i was so supported by my friends. my friends just rallied around. they would come. they would try to make me laugh. they would recommend books to read. we'd go for long walks. we'd hang out, eat bad food. just the kinds of things you do with your friends. >> she's been asked this question many many times. the challenge for hillary clinton has always been for people to be somehow impressed by how she felt about what was going on with bill. what do you think it means in today's election? >> look, you know, you have two candidates who have had troubled marriages. and i think this is just information for the american people about how each of them
have handled it. i feel for ivanka trump being asked on national tv how she felt about her parents' divorce. no kid wants to have to talk about that in private, much less in public. and you know i think from hillary's perspective, look, she had a husband who did this to her and i think american women across the board have essentially in many ways been inspired by how she was able to come through it, forgive him and stay together as a family. this is a real marriage. this is real love. and this is, i think, in many respects a real role model for so many women. >> what do you think, amanda? at the end of the day, do these matter as issues, or do they become part of the feel fabric for the voter when they're trying to judge each of these people?
>> yes. throughout the course of the campaign, we want to find out what kind of people these candidates are. one thing i found interesting, hillary clinton is a hard person to get a feel for. watching that documentary, we saw her go from d.c. lawyer to first lady of arkansas to first lady to new york senator to secretary of state. something i picked up on in all those clips over the years, you would see the same kind of mannerisms and hand gestures come out. i didn't remember how she testified for five hours and she kind of did this gesture with her hand on her head. she did that begin in the benghazi hearings. >> one quick thing on the documentaries, chris, which were fantastic and people should watch them, is all of the trump critics were people who really knew him, who worked with him, who were cheated by him. the clinton critics were people who didn't know her. her intimates all loved her. it was the critics on the
outside making suppositions about her that were filmed. whereas on the trump said you had people who worked with him who really had terrible experiences. >> people judge for themselves. thank you for the perspective on this. if you missed these documents, it's worth taking a deep dive into these two people. one of them is going to be the leader of the free world. watch them again this saturday night at 8:00 p.m. and 10:00 p.m. eastern on cnn. our national poll reveals an uphill climb for donald trump with minority voters. first an interesting story for you. singer erica eer erykah badu is her voice. she took the stage last month as more than an artist.
she stood as an activist. >> when one of us is a victim, we are all a victim. >> badu was approached by concert promoters to make her detroit show a benefit for the african-american 490 challenge. that group hoped to finish testing more than 11,000 rape kits found sitting in a police warehouse. in a report last year from the national institute of justice, police said budget constraints and staff cuts led investigators to not follow through on tests of those kits. >> when i learned about it, i thought it was very important. i thought it was at this point in my life, my responsibility. >> she as an artist is one who has always demonstrated a great social consciousness. she brings that to her artistry. >> she and her fans raised more than $50,000 at the detroit benefit. >> we were surprised that they cared so much about detroit.
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you describe that visit as a home run. what did he do right there? >> well, he -- this is something that had been on the calendar of his for quite some time. it was a home run again to get him in front of the people that, again, are probably going to make this election cycle. there's been a lot of chatter about he doesn't want to speak
to african-american audiences and there's been arguments about venue. when he speaks, i don't care where he is. people are going to hear him. it's one of the things that we didn't hear from mrs. clinton. she was in hiding. >> not exactly. she has been going to black churches as well. she went to one in early august. >> she was in hiding with respect not necessarily with black community, but i'm saying she was absent from the discourse. she wasn't doing interviews and such until he started deliberately saying what do you have to lose by voting for trump. >> i would not call it a home run. i would call it a foul ball. he hit out and it did not land. it was not really an out reach. it's an inreach. donald trump is not speaking to african-americans. s he's speaking through, around and under african-americans.
this is the part of the old strategy to divide and conquer, to talk around black folk, to use them as their leverage to get to the vote that he in fact knows he needs in order to secure the presidency. by the way, he looked very much out of place inside the church, which was not full. he was swagging when he should have been swaying. will the real donald trump come clean and demonstrate -- >> a man that grew up in a presbyterian church -- >> any policy related to civil rights, human rights, other than saying we need a civil rights agenda. but the platform of the republican party does not say anything about -- >> beyond whether or not he had rhythm. >> hold on a second. i do think that reverend anthony brings up the point that donald trump says he wants to remedy injustice. what exactly is he doing on that
front? >> here's the problem. folks like my esteemed colleague there that want to keep the grievances of black folks at the. t top of the agenda. it was not donald trump that has our neighborhoods the way they are. it was not donald trump that has us with five million more people on food stamps than before barack obama came into his administration. so now here we sit with all these problems and we want to blame the man that's running versus calling into accountability those that are in office. a vote for hillary clinton is the same old same. it's a vote for barack obama. trump is putting forth a platform and program and policy that lifts all americans, not just african-americans. >> okay. go ahead. >> i would say this. my colleague reverend davis is a part of the trump 100. he was a part of the group that met with trump back in december of last year. they got nothing then. there's no policy today.
the bottom line here is what about policy. we have the affordable care act. we have 673 inmates who are in jail who were there for non-violent offenses released and patrroled. >> that's the home run? >> we have medicaid and medic medicare. >> finish your point. >> in the democratic platform, the impetus is on civil rights. it's on having extended voter education and ability to vote on same day. it's talking about having a national holiday to vote for people all across this nation. donald trump and his republican platform don't speak to any of those issues. >> yep. very good. let me give dr. anthony the last word. what specifically will donald trump do that will change the injustice? >> again, the injustice is that
the folk that look like me can't get a job. and so once he creates an economy that lifts all of us and the communities that we live, all of this crime, all the things -- our schools in shambles. once again, now that you give someone school choice, you find yourself in a position now where our community is lifted through and by the policies that have been set forth. whether they have african-american listed at the top of it or not. >> gentlemen, we have to leave it there. thank you very much, gentlemen. she spent summer binge-watching. soon, she'll be binge-studying. get back to great. this week 50% off all backpacks. office depot officemax. gear up for school. gear up for great. ♪ prepare for challenges specific to your business
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good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me. 63 days to go until election day. donald trump and hillary clinton now locked in a statistical dead heat. a new poll shows trump ahead of clinton by two points among likely voters. among registered voters, clinton leads by three. keep in mind all of this is within the margin of error. let's bring in jeff zeleny. good morning. >> now, campaigns are run state by state. battleground state polls are important. but what this national poll is showing is really