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we continue along. you're watching cnn, i'm brooke baldwin. thank you for being with me. let's get to it. donald trump just detailed what he would do if he is elected commander in chief, a first run-up to his first commander in chief forum with hillary clinton tonight. unlike the upcoming debates, the first one in less than three weeks, the two won't be on the same stage but they will face the same crowd, no doubt, the presidential contenders know that absentee voting begins in one week. and many people will be sending in ballots early. many of those folks who are active duty military in his speech, speaking of, donald trump said he would boost
defense spending, that he would pump up troop numbers, battalions, ships, jets, and he was there in philadelphia. he laid out his plan for rebuilding of the nation's military and in doing so, he ripped into hillary clinton, into her foreign policy. her e-mails and, oh, so much more. >> in a trump administration, our actions in the middle east will be tempered by realism. the current strategy of toppling regimes with no plan for what to do the day after only produces power vacuums that are filled simply by terrorists. gradual reform, not sudden and radical change, should be our guiding objective in that region. sometimes it seemed like there wasn't a country in the middle east that hillary clinton didn't want to invade, intervene in, or topple. she's trigger happy and very unstable, whether we like it or not, and she said she didn't
know the letter "c" means confidential or at least classified. if she can't remember such crucial events, and information, honestly, she's totally unfit to be our commander in chief. totally unfit. >> let me bring in retired rear admiral charles kubik, national security policy advisor to donald trump. admiral, welcome back. nice to see you. >> good afternoon, brooke. >> now we hear trump's plans. he says once elected president, he will give his generals 30 days to essentially come up with a plan to defeat and destroy isis. but he has said for the last 16 months, admiral, that he has a plan all along. he's called it a secret plan to defeat isis. which is it? >> i think folks are really not getting the point. what mr. trump has done today
once again is articulated his strategic intent, his commander's intent. now he is starting to roll out the operational planning details. it's all the same plan, and elements of it will still be classified and secret. but what he's saying is as a part of his plan he is not going to rely on his white house staff to direct the military. he's going to go to the admirals, to the generals and ask them to develop an operational plan to support a strategic intent. as a part of that, there will be various courses of action and these courses of action will be both overt and covert -- >> he hasn't had a secret plan, admiral. just so we're all on the same page. >> well, it's the same plan, you know, brooke. he's just now articulating the details. but parts of it are still going to be secret. he's still going to be unpreageunpr unpredictable. we aren't going to tell the enemy what or how we're going to do it. he's talked about the fact that we've got to fight the ideology
now, we've got to look at economic operations, cyber warfare, and also our political aliningses. he's given a lot of detail at the strategic level. now we are talking at the operational level, he's going to go to the military professionals, not to white house staff. >> we give him credit for the detail today. he's been slammed over and over for being vague so he provided a lot of detail today. so much so when he talked about libya and iraq that it was in direct contrast to what he actually said in 2011. just to remind everyone, roll the tape. >> i can't believe what our country is doing. gadhafi in libya is killing thousands much people. nobody knows how bad it is and we're sitting around, we have soldiers all over the middle east and we're not bringing them in to stop this horrible carnage. that's what it is. it is a carnage. we should do on a humanitarian basis immediately go in to libya, knock this guy out very
quickly, very surgically, they effectively and save the lives. >> so, which is it, admiral? >> well, let's remember i think mr. trump has clarified that when he made those comments, he was a private citizen. he was acting on the information that he was receiving primarily from open media. and he was reacting to the potential humanitarian crisis in libya. he's learned since then, and he's clarified, that had he known that there was no humanitarian crisis, that hillary clinton was going to far exceed the mandate of the u.n. resolution, and that in fact she was going to press an attack against a country in violation of the law of war and then lead to a disaster when there's no plan. >> admiral, forgive me. whether it's libya or it's iraq or guns or some other major issue, i mean for months folks have pointed out, critics have pointed out, at one stage he said, x, and at another stage he
said y. if we're talking about being elected to the top office in the land, shouldn't there be consistency? >> he clarified when he said x, he was operating with limited information. once he got more information he began to reshape his opinions and he began to realize that the real issues were how these conflicts were prosecuted and the fact that there was no plan for the day after. >> but you're clarifying that but when did he clarify that? >> no. he has. he has in even conversations with me and i've heard it on tv that he's basically said, hey, originally i didn't have the full story. now i understand -- >> what about just quickly on his desire -- he mentioned today he wants to eliminate the defense sequester. all of those cuts. are you a navy plan. we've been chatting about my weekend in annapolis. i have a lot of sailor friends and a lot of ears perked when you hear donald trump talk about jumping the number of ships. i was on a cruiser in the
persian gulf. i know there are 22. and the navy wanted an all brand-new and congress said heck no, we're not paying for that. so instead they agreed to sort of have a compromise and modernize some of these cruisers. i'm just giving this as an example because congress even really didn't even want to do that. how is he going to get congress to do everything he just laid out today? >> first of all, i think he pointed out today that the sequester was applied unevenly. defense budget is one-sixth of the budget. but it is over 50% of the sequester. so he's saying it is time to lift that from defense. he said it is also time to begin to look at a longer term plan to recapitalize the navy. i know the navy, for example, has a 30-year plan and it is -- would be nice to bite it off in five-year chunks. it is going to take additional funding, but that funding is going to have to come from savings elsewhere and also from an increased economy. it is not going to happen overnight. but he's pointed out clearly
that number of ships has dropped to 206. the navy is fighting to retain 308. he is saying looking in the years, we ought to be thinking as a goal of 350. when i was working as a young officer supporting john layman's 600-ship navy, we almost got there. i think he is using that to show that, yes, dl is a need to recapitalize our military. don't get too hung up on the numbers because they are so big and it is going to take a lot of money and it is going to have to be phased over time. >> admiral kubic, appreciate your voice on the show. >> thank you very much, brooke. go navy. >> thank you. go navy. i mentioned that hillary clinton and donald trump will take part in what is being billed is a commander of chief forum. hillary clinton will go first, winning the coin toss, answering the audience's questions. then is donald trump's turn. the members will be mostly active duty.
one guest happens to be the author of a pretty phenomenal book called "columbine." it is a tough read but an important one. dave cohen finally, i get to see you. you came to new york. not for me, but for this. thank you. i appreciate it nonetheless. i heard you call yourself a reluctant hillary clinton supporter. >> yeah, that's fair. >> okay. so you don't know -- the deal is you don't know which question you get to ask to which candidate. >> exactly. >> or even if you do. but if you had, i know you are prepared with questions. a question for hillary clinton would be what? >> i'm still narrowing it down to transgender service members and probably army veteran suicide. and then traumatic brain injuries. but i'm leaning towards suicide with her. >> what's the question on suicide? >> well, it's astounding. the veterans administration put out a report saying 22 veterans
die at their own hands per day, which is just astonishing. right now i'm taking part in the 22 push-ups challenge. and i'm actually going to ask her if she would perhaps commit to doing it which i think would actually be fantastic and would be a way of really making everyone aware of that. but really i would like to know what she will do about that. because i'm sure she is going to say that i'm very concerned about it and we're going to do everything in our power and so forth. just like you are interviewing -- pinning people down, it is like i don't want to just hear how you're going to do wonderful things. what specifically she might do to address that. >> we'll talk push-ups later. what do you ask donald trump? >> well, with him i'm sort of re-evaluating after i saw his speech today. what i had been thinking of is talking about transgender service members. because we had the ban lifted in june. but not quite. ash carter announced a lifting,
but with a one-year implementation phase. that means the new commander in chief is going to take office midway through that. he or she can easily end that process. it won't be in place yet and reverse course and completely end it. so i want a commitment out of him are you planning -- will you commit to going forward or are you planning to reverse it? what are you going to do? >> he did mention he would take care of the lgbtq community during the rnc. i remember. i can see your eyes roll. you're like -- well, you know, talking and walking are two different things. quickly on walter reed. did you break your back? >> i did, yeah. >> so you were in walter reed. >> yeah. i lived there for five months. >> you were in pt with these amputees, these veterans. >> yes, every day. twice a day. it was kind of amazing. i was the only broke back. everybody else was double or dr triple amputees. i never talked to any shrinks about this but it was kind of my
impression the kind of worse case, the better their attitude. those guys and the women had amazing attitudes with kind of two exceptions. but they were really amazing about it. but it was always different things than you would think. the biggest complaint all the time -- i hope this has improved -- but was their prosthetics and your stump atrophies considerably, especially over the first several months when they're there. and when you're sort of between sizes, it's hell. when it's too loose, it moves around and does terrible chafing. they would be all red and sore. then you are sort of waiting to get to the right size. i'm hoping by now they have more sizes. but it was -- in a million years, that's not what i would have guessed was their problem. but their concerns and going about it is completely different. what i didn't learn that i always thinking about it, they had such amazing attitudes.
but i saw them in pt and like my few sort of crying bouts were in my room with the door closed. so i never saw that with them. i don't know what was -- i talked to them. we were on the same schedule like 10:00 and 2:00 so i saw the same people every day, but, yeah, i never -- i never asked about that. >> quite a place. i was there a couple years ago. m montel williams said, brooke, come with me to walter reed. dave cullen, we'll be watching tonight. good luck with your question asking. good to see you as well. >> under these circumstances. >> yes. just in here, another reminder, it is indeed 2016. we are getting word of an arrest warrant for presidential candidate jill stein. but why, you ask? good question. also ahead, donald trump's running mate now answering the questions donald trump will not. was president obama born in the
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i know more about isis then the apprgenerals do. age. john mccain, a war hero. he's not a war hero, he's a war hero because he was
captured. i like people that weren't captured ok. donald trump compared his sacrifices to the sacrifices of two parents who lost their son in war. how would you answer that father? what sacrifice have you made for your country? i think i've made a lot of sacrifices, built great structures. i've had tremendous success, i think... those are sacrifices?
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just in to cnn here -- jill stein, as in the green party's candidate for president, she is expected to face charges now for alleged vandalism and/or trespassing at a north dakota construction site. officers are working on a warrant right now. we have some video that shows her allegedly spray painting the words, and i quote, question the approve this message" on construction equipment. jill stein attended a protest yesterday with about 200 people at the pipeline worksite. morton county sheriff's department couldn't confirm the exact charges or whether they will be felonies or
misdemeanors. officials say this is an open investigation. dr. ben carson who is trying to woo black voters in to donald trump's camp says trump needs to apologize. he told jake tapper his candidate should say he is sorry for forcing the nation's first black president to produce his birth certificate to prove he was in fact born in the u.s. but hours later in an interview with fox, donald trump came on tv and offered no such apology. >> you think it is time for donald trump to acknowledge that all that birther nonsense was a mistake and to apologize? >> i think that would be a good idea. absolutely. i suggest that on all sides. let's get all of the, you know, the hate and rancor out of the way. >> do you think your birther position has hurt you among african-americans? >> i don't know. i have no idea. i don't even talk about it
anymore. >> i know. >> i don't know. i guess with maybe some. i don't know why. but i don't think -- very few people -- you are the first one that's brought that up in a while. >> he says he doesn't talk about it anymore. but it is important to remember, trump was one of the loudest voices on this issue back in 2011. here's a look back. >> why -- look, she's smiling. why doesn't he show his birth certificate? and you know what? i wish he would. because i think it is a terrible pall that's hanging over him. >> barack obama should end this and he should provide the public with a birth certificate. and if he doesn't do it, he's doing a tremendous disservice to the public. >> love to see what -- you know, perhaps it is going to say hawaii. perhaps it is going to say kenya. >> you know who questioned his birth certificate? one of the first? hillary clinton. >> there's something going on. look, there's something going on. and the words are now --
>> what does that mean, there's something going on? >> there's just bad feeling. a lot of bad feeling about him. >> well, here's a twist today. donald trump's own running mate, mike pence, told reporters that he believes barack obama was born in the u.s. joining me now, barry bennett, former. campaign manager for dr. ben carson, now a trump supporter. also with us, angela rye, former director of the congressional black caucus. barry, just begin with, why doesn't trump follow in the steps of mike pence and say, all right, you're right, he was born in the u.s. done. over with. stop asking me. >> he probably should, right? the truth is no one's really talked about this issue much for years but it was a silly issue in the beginning. obviously wasn't true. and it was a mistake to uk that about it years ago. but it would probably be a mistake to keep talking about it as well. >> then what about -- looking at you, i'm also thinking of dr.
carson and the fact that he told tapper, yes, he should apologize, and perhaps even that would help him with the black vote in this country. what do you make of dr. carson weighing in? >> you know, ben is a very strong moral person, so he has the right to do so. but if i could give both candidates some unsolicited and value-priced advice -- stop talking about each other. start talking about america. it is hurting. there are real problems. if you want to get elected, convince america you can solve these problems, not that your opponent is an awful person. >> angela rye, what say you? >> well, i agree with barry. first and foremost that this is a silly issue. it has always been a silly issue but if only it was funny. it really is no laughing matter. the fact that donald trump would work so diligently to discredit this country's first black president is not just unfortunate, it's very disrespectful. not only did he start and end with the birther issue, he also questioned barack obama's transcripts and whether or not he ever graduated from harvard
university. he questioned whether or not barack obama was an affirmative action admitee. love affirmative action, by the way. of harvard university. but that is highly problematic when you are talkinging abo ing questioning someone's competency because they don't look like you. that is a real problem here. donald trump has a lot of work to do in this space because he's got to demonstrate to people that he's not a bigot, he's not a racist and he's not using racist rhetoric to pander to his very angry base right now. that is why this apology is so important and barry, that is why i agree with you and dr. carson. >> something you just said which is kind of evolved in this political cycle which i hope we can all bury back when this is over. you don't have to prove that you are not a racist. right? you have to prove that you are a racist. >> no. >> no, no, no. in this country we're innocent until proven guilty. >> unless -- unless you're -- unless you're on the trump campaign.
>> you are demeaning the entire issue. >> no, barry, but here's the thing. let me prove -- >> we've got to stop pop. >> barry, let me prove to you why he has demonstrated that he is either racist and/or using race r racist rhetoric. i'll coudo this quickly. the north carolina participant in a rally who punched the black man in the face. he talked about a black lives matter protester that got kicked and beat up at his rally, he said he got what he deserved. he took out a full-page ad -- i'm not finished. it has everything to do with race. he took out a full-page ad of this -- >> that's the problem. >> no. you know what the problem is? the fact that race baiters. >> don't go there. do not go from. >> i went there! i went there! >> you have no idea what my family looks like. you cannot go there.
you owe me an apology. >> how do i owe you an apology? >> you called me a racism defender. >> no. you're saying i have the burden of proof on me to say donald trump is not a racist is false. donald trump has demonstrated he is a racist or using racist rhetoric. >> you have to prove someone is a racist. >> he's proven it himself, barry. >> no, he hasn't. come on. >> yes, he has, barry. i tried to give you examples. what i'm telling you is, we have to start owning that racism existed in this country and is real. and he pandered -- he pandered to racists throughout this election. you're denying it. . >> you can't go around calling everybody a racist. >> i didn't call you a racist. i said that you're not owning the fact that racism exists and that your candidate -- >> yes, i am. i'm telling you racism exists. >> okay. good. your candidate has used racist rhetoric to pander to his base. true or false. >> no. >> that is where we disagree. >> can i just -- aye-yi-yi.
i really love and respect both of you. i know we have 62 days to go. and we just all need to be respectful. we just do. >> yeah. >> here we are. we have to talk about the issues. i was about to talk about taxes. i understand race is a piece of this discussion. i'm just -- i just -- i just -- i don't even have the words. i think i'm going to leave it. let's fast forward. barry bennett, angela rye, thank you very much. >> thank you. coming up next here, more than 500 murders in the city of chicago, passing a grim milestone. gun violence there is raging. i'll be joined by the pastor who's just held this memorial service for a young man murdered one day before his 17th birthday. >> i don't want anyone else to get hurt. no mother should ever feel the way that i feel.
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more misery in syria today. at least ten people were killed, another 40 injured as bombs fell on a rebel-held neighborhood in aleppo. it comes on the heels of an alleged chlorine attack at a market. this gas, this poisonous gas, said to have been contained in barrels that crashed down from the sky. doctors say more than 100
people, including three dozen children, were admitted to the hospital with symptoms of chlorine gas poisoning. you can see here barrels left behind in the rubble. here you go. cnn's christiane amanpour just sat down with u.s. secretary of defense ash carter. he said russia ultimately bears the blame. >> this morning's episode suggests that at least as of this morning, things are definitely not leddi iheading i right direction. >> actually in the wrong direction. >> in that area of syria. exactly right. i think russia's got to bear the responsibility. >> the president said they would trust gaps. that's why the cease-fire for aleppo and elsewhere has not been implemented, even after 90 minutes of talks between putin and president obama. are you skeptical that they will, that they can, the russians, that they have any intention of doing this? >> well, we'll put that to the test. they have not shown that so far.
obviously if we could get them to a point where they stop doing the wrong thing and started doing the right thing in syria, it would be very good for that -- that's a decision they're going to have to make. but meanwhile, they bear the responsibility of the consequences of things that they could avoid. >> let's go straight to our senior international correspondent arwa damon who joins me live from istanbul. if you want to just talk more about the attacks specifically, we look at these pictures. it is just tough to look at. has the syrian regime stepped these attacks up? >> reporter: look, brooke. here's the reality of the situation. this red line when it comes to chemical weapons, the one that the u.s. administration had allegedly put forward that it did not stick to, because that red line was crossed back in august of 2013 with that massive kaem
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they have generator supplies that rely on diesel which is in short supply because aleppo is under siege once again by the regime. if you survive this kind of an attack, if you are that lucky, you don't get to breathe a sigh of relief because the next day brings even more violence, like what we saw. 24 hours after that alleged chlorine attack, there were even more bombardments that happened in aleppo, even more people who lost their lives. >> we have to talk about this, we have to shine a light on this. arwa damon, thank you for helping us do that. we'll be right back. your insurance company
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i really wanted to talk about chicago today. it is in the thick of its deadliest year in two decades. we are only nine months into 2016, and already 512 people have been killed in homicides there. that is according to the "chicago tribune" which keeps track of these deaths that have been ruled a homicide or determined to be a murder. it is also another grim reminder of the violence that is plaguing america's third-largest city. i want to show you a photo. this young man, this is the face of one of the victims here. 16-year-old elijah sims died just last week, one day before his 17th birthday. he had been shot in his head and his mother is numb with grief. >> i don't want anyone to feel this feeling that i am feeling. because it's not a good feeling. and it's hard for me. every day. i can't sleep. i can't eat.
i can't do nothing but think about my baby. >> joining me now, reverend marshall hatch sr., the senior pastor of the new mt. pilgrim missionary baptist church there in chicago. he was just with elijah's mom eofficiating his funeral. reverend, welcome. >> thank you, brooke. we appreciate it so much. >> let me just begin with -- first of all, i don't know how you do it but i have to begin asking about sharita, the mother. how is she holding on? >> welling, it's devastating. as any parent can imagine. there are no words to express one of the participants in the funeral family member i think was quite articulate and moving when she said when we lose a spouse, we're either a widow or widower. when we lose parents, we are an orphan but there is simply no word that we have when a parent
loses a child. it's devastating. i understand that they actually had to hold this service in -- is it your facility in there were so many people -- >> yes, our facility here. it is one of the largest on the west side. so we needed a big space and we were glad to help. >> how many times do you have to do this? >> more than i would care to mention. when you have the minors that are killed in the prime of life, it is particularly devastating to watch the promise of a community being just literally wiped away. then of course i've had the unfortunate task of also when we had the double police shooting here, betty jones and quintonio legrier, back in the winter, i had to do both those services in
one week. tell you the truth, it is a tremendous burden. >> you know, i was raidi ireadi the commissioner xh cook county said, it is an issue in these streets, jobs, lack of educational opportunities. i wish we could just put our finger on one thing but because you see this as much as you do, what needs to change, reverend? >> you know, elijah sims is a tremendous case in point. the tragedy. he was four blocks in to the city from oak park which is a thriving community. in fact, there is a condo building boom going on in oak park. and then just over into the city, of course, is a community that has the highest number of homicides. so we had an adjacent suburb that's booming. then the inner city where we have these compounded tragedies.
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still have headphone jacks. that is the thing today. the answer is no, the rumors are true. there are wireless aerobuds called air pods, also lightning adapters. they will have two camera lens, water and dust resistant, our tech expert is here with me to, you know, get everyone excited, the new phone, first of all, all right, i get it is a thing now with the wireless headphones and i'm super uncool, but why is this so exciting? >> so, it is basically like apple says, they said outright that we have courage to move this industry forward. whether you think they should tout themselves like that or not, it is true in the past they
have moved industries forward. if you think about it like this, you awant a smaller, thinner device, right? and you want it each time. they needed to make space so they removed the headphone jack, and now to do that they're moving to the air pods that are wireless. they have microphones in them as well. and they kind of look futuristic. they look a little awkward and weird. we'll see if they get better at keeping the air pods in your ears, which has been a known issue in the past -- >> what about the two cameras, 20 seconds. >> on the iphone 7 plus, we get two 12 megapixel camera, one with wide angle, one with
telephoto so you can get further in on your zooming. >> okay, the zoom, that is huge. >> okay -- >> and, and, adjustive focus. thank you, out of time, "the lead" starts now. >> thanks, brook, so was donald trump's plan all along to ask for a plan? think about it? "the lead" starts now. mr. trump says he knows more than the generals do, but now he is going to ask them for a new plan to destroy isis. and is the solution as dangerous as the problem. what about the spraying to stop the mosquitos spreading it. plus apple's tradition of making stuff you already