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understand. >> yes? >> go ahead with my hair stuff. yes! donald trump, everybody. i want to do it again. donald trump, everybody! >> god bless him. that's a lot of hair. that does it for us. thank you for watching cnn tonight with don lemon starts now. she's back, and not a moment too soon when you look at our new poll. this is cnn tonight, i'm don lemon. hillary clinton's lead cut in half in our latest polls, back on the trail after her bout with pneumonia and speaking tonight at the congressional hispanic caucus dinner in washington. >> i'm more confident than ever our best days are still ahead of us. >> donald trump, meanwhile, in
new hampshire. >> my economic agenda can be summed up in three words; jobs, jobs, jobs. >> he's talking about jobs there and we're going to get into his new jobs plan tonight. let's go to breanna keeler. you are out covering hillary clinton tonight. i want to start with something donald trump said in an interview just published in the "washington post." trump again refused say president obama was born in the u.s. he said this, i'll answer that at the right time, i just don't want to answer it yet and moments ago hillary clinton responded, listen. >> today, he did it again. he was asked one more time, where was president obama born. and he still wouldn't say hawaii. he still wouldn't say america.
this man wants to be our next president. when will he stop this ugliness, this bigotry? >> you can hear the blow back from the audience he won't say those word. >> reporter: yeah, i don't know why he strayed from that, which is why i don't talk about that anymore because he basically said he's not ready to say it. there will be some other time for it. i think you have to go back though to 2011 when donald trump jumped on the birther bandwagon and he saw his popularity soar. at the time, don, there was speculation about whether donald trump was going to throw his hat in the 2012 election. he ultimately decided not want
to i was reading this "new york times" story from ashleigh parker which described how he moved through this process, through the birther movement, he went from fifth in the polls to first in the polls so maybe part of the reason whyi he's not goig to say is i was wrong because he's worried there are a contingent people, a big enough contingent to see that is going to ail yechi don't eight some o them. he's made two big mistakes saying that poster was a nervous mess when she wasn't and she politely corrected him and now giving more credence to something that really is an attempt to undermine america's first black president with racist tones. he's had a tough day. >> we'll discuss that with the manual in moments.
the president was hillary clinton's warm-up act tonight. he did talk about the ugliness and the vit ririol of this campn season. >> there are a lot of folks who have this notion of what the real america looks like and somehow it only includes a few of us, but who's going to decide who the real america is? who's to determine that in this nation of immigrants, in a nation where, unless you are a native american, you came here from someplace else that you have a greater claim than anybody here? >> so there's no doubt who he
was talking about although he didn't say the word "trump." >> no, he didn't. there was definitely no doubt to this crowd and clearly president obama who was followed by hillary clinton wants her to carry on with his legacy. he was talking to a very receptive crowd. hillary clinton certainly more direct calling donald trump out by name. here's some of what she said. >> when you hear a presidential candidate spewing bigotry and hate, it's easy to get discouraged. but we're here because we know this election is a choice between not just two people, but two very different visions for america's future. either we're going to make our economy work for everyone, or just those at the top. either we're going to fear our
differences or embrace and celebrate our diversity. either we're going to pit americans against each other, and deepen the dwieivides or be stronger together. >> in this dinner the congressional hispanic caucus dinner, don is the chance to look at the issue of hispanic voters because this was a key constituent from president obama. hillary clinton, while she's definitely doing a lot better with hispanic voters than donald trump, she's not performing quite to the level president obama was, and this is a key consi consit weakness. s . >> every single demographic, especially those young voters and voters of color. appreciate it, bryana. let's bring in dana bash, and
let's talk about the president's refusal to acknowledge he was born in the especially at this point in the campaign, what is going on here? >> i'm trying to figure out how to answer that question. >> especially since he's reaching out to african-americans. >> one thing that comes to mind is he's not somebody that freely admits that he made a mistake or that he's wrong and so this might be an example, and maybe the ultimately example because as briana said he became the champion of the birther movement, he just is not letting that go, even in spite of the facts that were put in front of him all those years ago when barack obama not only released his short birth certificate but the long one. >> i have all of my ideas about
this. fi phillip bump, why do you say that you have to read this into, i'll answer that at the right time, i just don't want to answer it yet. >> he's waiting for a big moment in a big donald trump way, perhaps that is at a debate. >> i think that's what he's going to do. i think he's going to make it a big deal, therefore he gets credit for it. why are you shaking your head? >> i'm with dana bash. i think at this point, why is he continuing to draw this out other than the fact we know he's somebody who refuses to acknowledge a mistake. he said that he -- when he was talking about god, he said that he wouldn't ask -- he didn't need to ask for forgiveness because he hasn't done anything. he always has to be right. he threw his campaign manager under the bus. >> isn't that -- when people are saying will the real donald trump please stand up, is it the guy before the new -- you know, new management -- was that guy
before the new management or after the new management, the campaign managers who will say what is on the teleprompter and most of the time won't veer from it? i think there's bigger strategy behind this, a bigger moment that he's waiting for it to say that, no? >> no, i agree with that and part of the reason that the under new management, donald trump that we've seen over the course of the past few weeks, a part of it, he's feeling a little bit better in the polls and wanting or feeling to make progress. there is also speculation that perhaps he's worried he's going to lose part of his base if he retracts what he's saying. i don't buy that. i don't know how anyone could look at this race and think how he could do anything to lose. >> he goes on to say -- he added i don't talk about it anymore. the reason i don't is because every is going to be talking about it as opposed to the jobs, vets and security, which is kind of what he says about taxes but if you're reaching out -- >> you know how you don't talk about it anymore, you don't let the story continue on. you say, listen, do you know what, like why are we talking
about a chore, he was born here. he could have gave a half-hearted throw-away line. sure, he was born in hawaii. let's talk about what people really care about. that's when the issue goes away. >> dana, i don't want to talk about it, you know, i know women are mad at me, but they shouldn't be mad at me because that's not what i meant, but even though women are mad wouldn't you just say i'm sorry i upset you instead of doubling down on something especially if you're trying to get that vote, unless he's not really trying to get the vote? >> yeah, you would think so, but there's nothing that has been conventional about donald trump's campaign until recently when he has been using the teleprompter even making jobs when the teleprompter didn't work in one or two of his events. but, yes, that is what you traditionally do. it didn't occur to me maybe he was thinking and waiting for a big moment, perhaps that is possible. >> did you not watch dr. oz, today, dana? >> oh, that?
>> i mean, everything that's -- you does the build-up for every single thing. i don't want to say madness. he gets a big build up, gets the media to follow him and then there's nothing there. >> i think that's true but this is also the guy who follows his gut. he goes with his gut. i'm -- i know from covering the campaign and i know you guys do, too, that -- i mean, there were oftentimes in the old world where the -- the campaign didn't know what he was going to do on twitter or what was going to come out of his mouth on the stump. that is how he operates and frankly how he has traditionally -- believes he operates at his best. it's how he beat all of these traditional politicians during the primary. there's still a big part of that in donald trump. >> okay. hillary's back. we will talk about it after the break. be right back. and can you explain to me why
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breaking news, just as we were discussing it now, i need to get to dana bash. my entire panel is back. we're going to discuss this bit of breaking news. we were talking about the birther issue. what do you know? >> i just talked to a senior trump aide who called after we went to break who said that we
are going to get a statement momentarily and i'm looking at my phone to see it saying that donald trump does believe that barack obama was born in the united states. so he is taking that extra step that he didn't take with the "washington post" we were talking about in the first segment. i don't have it yet but once we get it we will read it and let you know, but this is a big moment and one that he is going to obviously try to take to move beyond this so he's no longer asked about this and we'll talk about some of the other issues that he hopes will bring new people. >> okay. >> into the trump fold. >> so we're awaiting a statement from the trump campaign that saying donald trump believes president obama was born in the united states even though he was the champion of the birther issue. mark preston is shaking his head, like i told you, don. you said if he was wait ago what did you say, if he was waiting
for the convention for a big moment then? had. >> the bottom line is, that he check check w going to try to wait at the debate, it will be political strategy malpractice on his campaign to do so. by releasing it tonight, the story will eventually go away. is it going to go away tomorrow? probably not. we'll talk about it tomorrow. but by sunday, issue taken off the plate, that's important, because what was his big issue today? it was the economy. guess what we're not talking about right now, the dme. >> the economy. it is a sign this is the campaign scrambling to keep up with some of the that trump did. he said a few hours ago to the "washington post," i doubt it is 10:15. maybe he was watching don lemons. >> may must be watching, someone, because they called in, and e-mailed dana in the break. >> that was the big moment.
but, yes, it is -- here it >> here it is, we got it. >> go, dana. give me a minute because i just got it, i'm just going to read this, he says in this statement from the campaign, hillary clinton campaign first raised this issue to smear barack obama and goes on to talk about in 2011, mr. trump was finally able to bring this ugly incident to its conclusion by successfully compelling president obama to release his birth certificate. mr. trump did a great service to the president and the country by bringing closure to the issue that hillary clinton and her team first raised. inarguably, donald j. trump is a closer vehicsuccessfully obtain president obama's birth certificate whrothers could not. here's the key line. mr. trump believes president obama was born in the united states and is totally focused on bringing jobs back to america,
defeating radical islamic terrorism, taking care of veterans, introducing school choice and opportunities and inner cities from his senior campaign advisor, jason miller, through his campaign. there you have it. >> the interesting thing is whether or not these words will come out of donald trump's mouth and why wouldn't he just get up there in front of a podium, in front of an audience or something and say, do you know what. >> i'm sure he knows, look he's going to be asked about it and probably in the next interview that he does, but once he does this and now that he's done that, that interview will happen, he'll put it to bed and -- and he'll move on. and i actually tend to agree with phillip who said earlier that you know there's some thinking that maybe his core supporters will abandon him because of this. >> yeah. >> his core supporters, i just -- having been on the campaign trail and talking to so many of them particularly during the primaries, they support him for the fact that he's
different, that he's an outsider, that he's against trade deals. you know, immigration. not this. i mean that might be one of them but that's not -- this is not going to lose votes for him, i truly don't think. >> let's go through this statement from the trump campaign, right, the one that you just read. let's go through it. the first thing it says, hillary clinton's campaign first raises issue to smear then-candidate barack obama, in her nasty failed campaign for president. >> which is not true. >> let's go from there. >> i didn't mean to interrupt. >> that's what i want you to do. go ahead. >> there were some hillary clinton supporters that had raised this issue. >> out of texas. >> i believe so. >> they were passing e-mails back and forth. did they ever -- i don't know -- i don't think they ever said was he born out of this country, outside -- >> they weren't officially part of the campaign, they were volunteers and there was a memomemo that mark pen, who hadn't brought the birther issue up.
>> this type of can i'iving behavior and was too weak to get an answer, even the msnbc show "morning jo" admits it was clinton's hints man that did not raise the subject to donald trump. he's saying tirk whillary clint too weak to get an answer. >> he's a patriot. he said in 2011 he brought this to a conclusion. >> he did a favor for the american people. >> he did. and i know we're going to get to that, but that's also not true. in january on cnn he was asked about this and he said who knows where president obama was born. >> in 2011, mr. trump was able to bring this ug ugly incident asking for the birth certificate. >> is that something to be proud of to make the president produce
his birth certificate and be wrong about him not being born somewhere else? >> i don't expect him to say anything different f. he. if he's going to make this conclusion the president was born in the united states, he's donald trump, of course he's going to go through the record of how it happened, that president did go to great lengths to release his long birth certificate. we all remember that happening. now, he didn't -- >> if we could find that sound byte, saying he didn't have time for this when he produced his birth certificate, and there's moment saying you wouldn't believe -- it was an interview, i don't know if it was katy. no, it was meredith vierra where he says you won't believe i had my investigators over in africa and hawaii and you won't believe what i'm finding out. so -- and then he goes on to say, mr. trump did a great service to the president and to the country by bringing closure
to the issue that hillary clinton and her team first raised, brought the hillary clinton thing up again. inarguably, donald trump is a close are, having successfully obtained president obama's birth certificate when others could not. donald trump believes president obama was born in the united states. i have to give it to jason miller. this is a pretty interesting read. >> here's thing about the whole issue for the republican party. and let me defend the republican party in this. almost every republican official in washington, i think just about every one of them, believes that barack obama was born in the united states. >> republican officials, but not most republicans, i believe, especially donald trump supporters. >> i think it's like 20% of people who were -- >> muslim. >> think he was born -- by the way, they all don't have to be republicans. some of those could be very conservative democrats, independents. >> or just people who are divorced from reality. >> correct.
they don't need a political affiliati affiliation. hillary clinton's e-mail should have never happened these medical records should have been released a long time ago, taxes should have been released a long time ago. this is another line of transpatiently we'tran transpatietran transparently we're not seeing from other candidates. >> and mr. trump is focused on taking care of radical islamic terrorism, and making our inner cities safe again, and choice of school and education. this issue is over. >> that's what he hopes. when i was talking to the senior aide who i talked to in the commercial break who gave us the breaking news we reported this statement was coming, that was my first question, why now? and the answer was, so he can focus on other things, in that
statement. when we were saying fine, the president was born in the united states, you don were saying maybe he's waiting for the debate. our colleague, david chalion e-mailed me which is smart, and this is because he wants off the table before the debate, because this is not something that -- >> of course. >> -- he wants to be a nanosecond of a focus during the debate and you know just from the way hillary clinton jumped on it tonight, the fact that -- that "washington post" interview went online with trump, you know, sort of declining to say that president was born in the united states i think it was then and five-minute when is hillary clinton added to that her prepared remarks. they knew this was going to be a potential issue and again remember take a step back, at this point, it is about donald trump being really close in a lot of these battleground states and to get over the line to the -- to the v-column, he has to expand his supporters, expand his base. he's got those people.
he needs to appeal to others. >> phillip, i know you want to get in and i promise you we'll get into it. the interesting thing is you have to give him credit for he's admitting it, some what. i see other people in the studio saying no it took him way too long to do it. the interesting thing is why does it take so long for the campaign to admit? why are they so tone deaf sometimes to admit there are issues especially when we were all sitting here, when the night that he gave his speech in milwaukee and we said why is he giving the speech to a mostly white crowd and the night before the campaign manager was completely floored by, what are you talking about. in this one issue they were tone deaf, now they're trying to make it work. will it work, we'll discuss when we come back. who's with me? i'm in. i'm in. i'm in. i'm in. ♪ ♪
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took that position, very important importantly, that wasn't the wrong thing that it was a valid question that he got answered, he's trying to reach out to black voters and communities of color accident that's n color, that's not what he wants to hear. an obvious fact is an obvious fact, here's why i said things that undercut the president of the united states. >> here's an example of tone deafness, which they don't understand sometimes. in 2011, mr. trump was fine lyely able to bring this incident lie successfully compelling president obama to release his birth certificate. mr. donald trutrump did a greaty bringing closure to the issue hillary clinton and her team first raised in arguably, donald j. donald trump is a closer, having obtained successfully president obama's birth certificate when others did not.
mr. trump believes president obama was born in the united states. were there many people trying to get his birth certificate? >> not who had the megaphone or the public image of donald trump, not even close. and that is what put donald trump on the map as a political force within the republican party and within this sector, it sort of helped him plant the seed with republican primary voters that of course he expanded on issues we were talking about before, immigration, trade and things like that, so no, and i think of course he's not going to apologize because that is not donald trump. he did just the opposite. he took credit for it. >> he doubled down, right? >> yeah, he took credit for it. he said he's the whole reason why this happened. >> look, i mean, i think that we're talking about it now, as i said before. they're hoping inside the trump campaign we're not going to be talking about it much more and
they obviously realized until they answer the question this way, they're not going to stop getting questions about it. donald trump got questioned about it from the "washington post," there were questions about it last week and also there were his vice presidential running mate saying he thinks that obama was born in the united states, his campaign manager is saying that, so it was probably only a platter mat time they convinced management it was one of those things you have to get off the table and move on if you're going to expand your base. >> you said we won't be talking about it, mark preston, because it's not an apology and many people want to hear a good old-fashioned, i'm sorry, i was wrong. >> how, i think we need to reset kind of where we're at right now, because there is a conspiracy theory from those who support donald trump this is a media-made, cable television-driven issue. we didn't bring this up. we didn't go out and say, i'm
sending investigators to hawaii. we didn't do interviews as you said where he went out and said you should see what i'm learning from investigators. >> and we didn't reach out to the african-american community and realize this is a big issue when it comes to african-americans. >> and to the point we are right now, kellyanne conway, his campaign manager saying donald trump doesn't believe it anymore, rude rudy giuliani, when he was asked by the "washington post," he chose not to answer it directly. this was driven by donald trump and he put out an economic plan today that was kind of fascinating, right, but he chose to over ride it by diroing this interview where something was going to explode. it will get taken off the plate as it should be, and we can really start talking about the real issues, but again this is a donald trump-made self-inflicted
wi wound. >> i can just say one thing i'm getting e-mails from the democrats and pointing out it was jason miller, his spokesman. >> and not him. >> who released the statement. it wasn't in the words and name of donald trump. so, the next question before it is -- i don't know about put to bed -- but that you can stop being asked about it, is when we hear it from donald trump. >> yeah. >> although he's probably likely to say i've already dealt with that. >> and that has been taken care of. and also, you know, there's thought that i'm getting e-mails saying they believe in their estimation that hillary clinton had a great come back and donald trump is changing the narrative and we're talking about donald trump -- this segment we're going to talk about hillary clinton's first day back from suffering from pneumonia and we're talking about donald trump once again. thank you very much, panel. we'll continue with the breaks news, statement campaign saying donald trump believes the
president obama of the united states was born here in the united states, coming from one of the campaign advisors, jason miller now, the directly from donald trump. we'll see if he's going to discuss it himself in the coming days. in the meantime we'll move on and we'll be right back after this break. afoot and light-hearted i take to the open road. healthy, free, the world before me, the long brown path before me leading wherever i choose. the east and the west are mine. the north and the south are mine. all seems beautiful to me.
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here's the breaking news tonight, trump's campaign said barack obama was born in the u.s. andy dean, the former president of trump productions, and jack consistencisto kingston, ask hillary roster, and cnn political contributor, anne jones. i want to get to this reaction saying president obama was born in the united states. it's interesting that he told the "washington post" that this evening, but his campaign, at least campaign manager has been saying that all along. is it new? who the your response. >> well, i think it's progress. i think he's going to have to address had himself. he kind of stepped in the doggie poo with the "washington post," hillary clinton smacked him for
it. at some point he's going to have to stand up with his own mouth and say he was wrong and it would be great for him to apologize. a lot of the trump people feel this is not a racial thing. the way they see it, you know, yes, ted cruz and other people but i'm going to tell you the way it landed for after condition americans, you have to take the facts as they are, this really felt like it was a cheap shot at somebody who had a different skin color, different kind of a name and wasn't fair. the trump people would do themselves a great service not to continue to act like the millions of black people who were offended, have nothing to stand on. get the momentum going, show you have some emppaathy. >> i think he's factually incorrect. i think maybe liberals on television may think it's a race issue but if you look at american history, the histories very clear. there have been five major birther controversies in our country, the first was 1881 with
chester a. arthur, who was a white republican, then 1916, charles public hughes. >> you're defending it now? >> no, i'm not defending it. what i'm saying -- >> you are. >> the question of a person's birthplace has nothing to do with it -- >> here's the thing i was saying about the campaign being tone deaf. i'm african-american, look at your monitor, and van jones is african-american, and two of those people who we interact with every single day, it is an issue they have a problem with that as racist, when your candidate is trying to reach out to after condition americans. we are telling you this is an issue that we see as racial and you're seeing it's not. that is being tone deaf.
don't you understand that? >> i disagree and i would like you just to hear my side and the trump campaign side. i don't speak for the trump campaign, but i believe the trump campaign side. obama was born in the united states. he was born in hawaii in 1959. we know that because we got the long-form birth certificate. hawaii became a state in 1959. there was some controversy there because george romney -- >> what's your point? throughout american history, it has nothing to do with his skin color as evidenced by the fact five other individuals have gone through this who have been white republicans. >> you didn't hear anything i said. you did not hear anything i said. you may not think it's a race issue. i'm telling you how african-americans feel about it and you're denying how african-americans feel about it. you're telling me -- >> i'm not denying anything. >> i think andy is doing a good job. >> at the very least, andy,
you're undoing whatever potential good that jason miller just did five minutes ago. >> no, you're -- >> i get it. this is a good tv moment you're trying to paint this into a corner. obama was born into the united states and if you feel it's a race issue then you're always going to feel that way, but donald trump loves african-americans like he loves all people and wants to talk about jobs and the great thing was done is we're going to get this issue behind us. >> let's give others a time. >> i think andy has a point and i'm enjoying this. you and van had the point. i had the honor of representing a district that was 30% african-american in a town in which i live, savannah, georgia, which is 50% african-american and i do believe there's something to be said that if it is an issue with a constituency, regardless of the issue, then it is an issue. i think donald trump has done the right thing tonight and he's
absolutely done the right thing by going to baton rouge, by going toy did tro going to detroit, and washington and really aren't warm and fuzzy to republicans but the reality is he's serious about the african-american vote and in order to do so he wanted to get this out of the way. >> hillary, go ahead. what's your response? >> jack said that much better, that was good. >> thanks, andy. >> in one hand, and take it away from the other, by lying first of all about the history of his efforts and suggesting that hillary clinton started this, he turned this story into a longer story because hillary clinton cannot and will not let him get away with lying about her being the one starting this effort. if he really wanted to be true and outstanding and reach out as you said to the african-american community, he would just man up
and say, you know what, i was wrong and i believe the president was born here. instead, he bragged that he did it in the first place and then he lied about how it got started. as far as i'm concerned, he made this worse, not better. >> i want van to get back in, as well. >> a clinton advisor wrote in a gallop poll one of the problems holding barack obama back was his lack of american roots. whether the campaign was lacking that, i'll never know, but it's absolutely a fact mark penn, clinton advisor brought it up march 19th 2007. >> didn't bring it up publicly. >> he absolutely did. >> we've gone through this with every single fact check and there is nothing that he meant to do it. >> you never know with the clintons. >> let's just say you're right,
which you're not, donald trump doubled down, sent investigators -- then after the president released his birth certificate, he talked about the guy and says how amazing to verify copies of the birth certificate and all others lived and then he saan extremely incredible source said he was a fraud. when he released his birth certificate, donald trump still did not believe it and you're not understanding why this may upset some people. go ahead, van. >> yeah, i mean, and that -- that was years after -- 2013 was what you are reading from, so literally years after he is still trafficking this sort of stuff and i thought andy did a very good job. i wanted to hear all the other dates, as well of giving us that history and perspective. here's the reality. in different contexts, the same thing can mean something very different. >> yes, absolutely. >> in the same act in one decade or one century can be completely
differently received in this one and i think what i want the trump people who are listening to remember is that when you have an african-american president, the first one in there, this idea that he is just like not a legitimate president, that there's something about him that's disqualifying, there was a high level of sensitivity, whether you think it's right or wrong. i'm sure the catholics felt that way about kennedy. you have to keep that in mind. and when this guy just doubled down, and doubled down, and one of the most famous people in the board doubli world doubling down, it really hurt people and felt it was racial. the history lesson is good but i want you to understand the presenc presence. >> this was 5/28/16, he said don't believe the phony media and bias people. the only thing to believe is me.
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campaign trail following or bout with pneumonia. here to discuss, dr. ian smith and tony horton, the creator of fitness series p90 x. >> and what's the next one? >> 22 minute hard core. >> good to see you. dr. ian, good to see you from -- we were buddies when i lived in chicago. i'm glad to have you on. donald trump and hillary clinton, ian, the oldest candidate for the presidency that we have ever had, from what you know -- i don't know if you've examined either but i doubt it -- are they physically fit to serve? >> well, it's interesting. of course this is extremely controversial topic when you talk about presidential health requirements. i've not examined either one of them but if you are to believe what they have revealed us to both of them seem to be relatively healthy. the claim that trump makes that he's going to be the healthiest
person ever elected, that's very gra grandios, he's never smoked, his parents lived for a long time. he's over weight, he revealed that, 6 foot 3, 236, a bmi of 29.9. he's active. as far as hillary clinton is concerned, she's had an issue of clots. she's fainted before and had a concussion, everyone remembers that. this is a situation she had pneumonia. i've had pneumonia also, too, and she was trying to push through her pneumonia and people recommend that you stay home and let your immune system gather itself. so in my opinion from what i've read and heard they both could serve as president as far as health concerns. >> let's talk about exercise, in moving around because on "the dr. oz show," donald trump said campaigning was a form of exercise. tony, let's listen in and then we'll talk about it. >> how do you stay healthy on the campaign trail?
>> it's a lot of work. when i'm speaking in front of 15 and 20,000 people and i'm using a lot of motion, i guess in its own way it's a -- at a pretty e rehealtr healthy act. a lot of times these rooms are like saunas and i guess there's a form of exercise. >> is that a form of exercise? >> i'd have to agree based on my 35 years of experience exercise requires a lot of muscle recruitment and heavy breathing, increased heart rate, you know and he's also a fast-food jufnk. in my business, i would call that a ticking time bomb. he's -- he's kind of a beast in the sense that he's got this great stamina and he's doing really well on the trail, he seems to be holding up but he is 70 years old and he's not eating well and over weight. that's just not good. >> hillary clinton reports she does yoga, water aerobics and walking. is that a good level of the activity? >> it depends on the individual. the schedule is brutal and
there's certain components. you need the proper sleep, hydration is huge. and nutrition is really the foundation of having the chemical releases that you need of dopamine, saratonin that you can be ready day after day, week after week. >> when you look at donald trump, and hillary clinton are they on par with the average american? >> with the average american they are, but what they're trying to do and accomplish they probably need to you know find some kind of downtime, you know, that's important, they're having those quality downtime moments are hard to come back, and hydration and sleep and stress control and really making sure that you eat well and really all you need is ten minutes of some kind of physical activity and i think being on the campaign trail and being on stage in a hot room doesn't quite cut is it. >> thank you, gentlemen, i appreciate it. donald trump says his check plan can be summed up in three words, jobs, jobs, jobs, but is it a plan that could work? we're going to discuss.
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here's our breaking news tonight, donald trump the campaign finally says that will president was born in the u.s. this is cnn tonight, i'm don lemon. this has been a long time coming, but why now? plus hillary clinton's lead over donald trump cut in half since last month as she hits the ground running on her first day back