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that's the officer's side of the story and, of course, her interview with police and investigators will be also a big piece of this story moving forward. the family wants to see charges filed immediately against the officer. back to you, brooke. >> we'll stay on it. ana cabrera live in tulsa, thank you so much. we continue on top of the hour. i'm brooke baldwin. breaking news in the man suspected of planting the bombs in four different locations over new york and new jersey over the weekend. we now know 28-year-old ahmad rahami was once jailed for stabbing his own relative and that the fbi investigated him on accusations his own father had called him a terrorist. we're getting a window into the mind of this accused bomber, a source telling cnn the suspected attacker wrote about the boston bombers and an american born al qaeda mastermind. his terror ramblings found in a notebook on him after his shootout with police.
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investigators now believe he was inspired by other terrorists. the questions remain about whether or not he was acting alone. so let's go to pamela brown, cnn justice correspondent. tell me more about what we're learning about his past and what his father was saying about him some years ago. >> brooke, we learned today the father of the suspect was interviewed by the fbi in 2014 about him after this domestic dispute where the suspect was arrested for stabbing his brother in the leg and unlawful possession of a firearm. today my colleague jessica snyder spoke to the father and here's what he had to say about talking to authorities about his son. take a listen. >> now he's a terrorist. >> why did you call the fbi two years ago? >> because he was doing bad. >> what did he do bad? >> he stabbed my son, he hurt my wife and i put him to jail two years ago. >> which son did he stab?
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>> nasir. >> why? >> for no reason, excuse me, i can go now. >> so we've learned a neighbor contacted authorities after he heard the father call his son a terrorist during this dispute and an official tells that when the fbi went to interview the father that down played the concern about his son and the fbi never interviewed ahmad. he was not put on terror databases disspite the fact this happened after he returned from a year long time in pakistan where he was in quetta, pakistan, as well as afghanis n afghanistan. we learned when he came back from afghanistan and pakistan in 2014 that he went through secondary screening but he said he was over there visiting
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family he didn't raise any concerns among customs and border officials. >> pamela brown, thank you very much. another big piece of this information is why did the bomber's wife leave the u.s.? officials are telling cnn that the pakistani woman he married in 2011 is back on her way to the united states but she took off a couple days before the attacks so let's go to ivan watson who is there live in kabul, afghanistan. he's our senior international correspondent what more do we know about the wife's travels and as we're learning more about the suspected not only going home to afghanistan but pakistan, specifically karachi and quetta, tell me about those places. >> well, we know that they met in pakistan during one of his visits, rahami traveled to pakistan in 2011 and 2013 all
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the way to 2014. he stayed nearly a year traveling back and forth between afghanistan and pakistan. that is where he met his wife, married her and had troubles trying to get her a visa to come to the u.s. and reached out to his congressman in new jersey, reaching out for help to try to get her a visa and eventually for his child as well. what we're hearing from at least two u.s. officials is that she did leave the u.s. some time before the bombings on saturday and that now the united arab emirates is working to -- the u.s. has reached out to the united arab emirates as well as pakistan and that she's expected to be coming back from the uaw in the coming week. of course u.s. officials are likely going to have an awful lot of questions for her. here in afghanistan what we've been trying to look into some of
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the time that ahmad rahami spent in this part of the world. a taliban spokesman denying any links whatsoever to this man and to the attempted bombings. the bombings that took place in new york and new jersey on saturday, that is of note because the taliban has been fighting the u.s. military on the ground here in afghanistan for some 15 years. however there are other militant jihadi groups is that are operating between afghanistan and pakistan in some of the areas where a hanney is believe to have visited. it is possible he had links with those groups. those are things u.s. investigators are going to be looking into. that they're probably asking the afghanistan and pakistani government questions about. brooke? >> how about that? you reached out the the taliban and the taliban says "we don't know who this person is." ivan watson, thank you far in kabul. david yanberry is joining me.
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he's a retired police officer who lived next door to the suspect and his family for several years in new jersey. thank you so much david for joining me. . you're welcome. >> when's the last time you saw him. >> about 2011. >> what was he like, behaviorally? >> very quiet boy. it's a shock he did this. i can't imagine what happened. >> when you would have run ins with him, have conversations with him, would he engage you? was he more reclusive? give me more detail. >> we just talked about his family a little bit, his brothers. he once asked about going into law enforcement. he wanted to go to college. he wasn't really interested in his father's business, he wanted another career.
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very pleasant boy. i can't believe it. >> i was just going to say he was studying criminal justice so that would make sense if he wanted to go into law enforcement though it doesn't make sense if he did what he's accused of doing. also, david, on the note he had been to pakistan and afghanistan for multiple trips, came back, some folks are reporting they noticed a change in him, his behavior, his dress. did you witness that? >> no. like i said, when i had contact with him he was very respectful. normal high school kid, normal young man, never talked bad, never had any problems with him. as far as i know our police department never had any dealings with him at his house or home. >> i understand you said his father said he was afraid of him
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getting americanized. what did you mean by that? >> i guess culturally you hear a lot of things that older parents don't want their children growing up in being american but you're here in america so be american. >> what did you notice between the father and the son? >> i never really -- once or twice i seen them together. they were walking together like father and son. very respectful boy, very quiet. i believe in my opinion this has to be when he left the country that somebody put thoughts in his head that america isn't great. and that's just my opinion. >> sure, well that's certainly some of what law enforcement is looking into. if those trips to both pakistan and afghanistan affected his thinking about america or
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wanting to kill americans. david yanvary, thank you so much, approach yalt it. joining me to discuss i have phil mudd with me. former cia count terrorism official and paul cruickshank, cnn terrorism analyst and it or the in chief of the ctc sentinel. good to see both of you. i'm back on ivan watson in kabul who said they checked in with the taliban and he was in karachi and quetta and they're saying "nope." does that surprise you? >> no, but i'd be looking at environment. two environments in particular. he goes overseas into an environment that includes taliban presence. what is he hearing there? american drone strikes. he's in that environment over a period of time. not just pakistan but a center of military activity.
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you're looking at not a classic al qaeda case or isis case. we're seeing in the places like-year-old and san bernardino. people become radicalized? >> remember orlando when we were covering that it was like he was inspired by a hodgepodge of terror groups. with regard to more we're learning. reminiscent of the '05 london bombings. how rudimentary, sophisticated. what's your read? >> according to what we've heard from explosive experts this was a powerful bomb, a bomb potentially more powerful than the boston devices just few years ago. hmtd which would likely have been used for the detonator. that's tricky. we've only seen seen a small number of terrorists have done
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this without going overseas. >> that's what we were getting on. >> you need instruction to make sure it works so that's why investigators are looking that the international travel asking the question could he have linked up with any groups to get this training. we saw that training with the times square bomber who attempted to blow up a car bomb, he hooked up with the pakistani taliban who trained him and sent him back. >> we know they're looking into what they find, where he could have built these. i'm asking about the wife, phil mudd, what she would have known, the fact that, what, three days before he allegedly plotted this she, poof, left? >> there's a difference between fact and supposition but i'm suspicious. you live a family where an individual acquires ten devices, travels overseas over a long
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period of time, decides he'll strike targets in new jersey and new york, live with this individual and you know nothing is going on? here's the questions, do you know of threats? do you know of anybody else involved in the plot and do you know how he was radicalized? if the question is i don't know, i don't know, my answer is you lived with him for that long and know nothing? i don't buy it. is. >> do you agree? >> well, we have to wait to talk to the wife. but they'll urgently want to talk to her and ask her the questions phil was alluding to. >> paul cruickshank and phil mudd, thank you so much. the u.s. is blaming russia for a deadly attack on an aid convoy in syria. that attack came hours after the fragile cease-fire ended. 20 people were killed forcing
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the suspension of all aid convoys to thousands of people in desperate need of food and medicine and other supplies. let's go to barbara starr who's joining us now. what are you hearing? >> it's a preliminary conclusion by the pentagon and the obama administration that the russians were responsible for this terrible attack against the syrian red crescent facility and aid convoy near aleppo. a horrific attack. what is the u.s. basing this on? they've looked at the aerial intelligence, some of the radar, some of the planes they had up and satellites and other things they had up in the area looking at all the data that they could gather and what they saw is that there were only russian warplanes in the sky at the time of the attack. the u.n. secretary general is
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calling this attack sickening and deliberate. it's lead to the suspension of aid into aleppo, not that much was getting in anyhow, and a good deal of anger at the perpetrators. the u.s. now very much believing the russians were behind it. here's the wrinkle. this is based on classified military technical intelligence that the u.s. has gathered plus reports on the ground. how much will the technical intelligence, the surveillance, radar, that kind of thing to prove the case to the world that the russians did it officials don't know why the russians did it and if the russians knew what they were hitting. the betting money is that they did but this all remains to be determined. the russians very much saying they were not involved but the intelligence at this point, brooke, as you look at these terrible pictures of the syrian
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arab red crescent, the only potential source of aid into aleppo being destroyed in this bombing attack. it's very hard to see away ahead for any cease-fire. >> awful for those people. barbara, thank you. >> >> new backlash against donald trump's son for comparing syrian refugees to skittles. as in the candy. we have a reality check for you ahead. wrap your head around this one. a kennedy is now saying george w. bush, as in the former -- george h.w. bush will vote for hillary clinton. and they are perhaps the most famous couple in the world but today angelina jolie filing for divorce from brad pitt, hear why. energy is a complex challenge. people want power.
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analogy he used comparing syrian refugees to skittles, the candy. all because of this tweet. the caption he writes "if i had a bowl of skittles and i told you just three would kill you, would you take a handful? that's our syrian refugee problem." says donald trump jr. he added "this image says it all, let's end the politically correct agenda that doesn't put america first." now mars corporation, skittles parent company jumped in with this tweet "skittles are candy, refugees are people, it's an inappropriate analogy, we respectfully refrain from further comment as it could be misinterpreted as marketing." but while mares freezing rained many didn't not, including john favreau, a former speech writer for president obama. he tweeted this "this is one of the millions of children you compared to a poisoned skittle." let me bring in two ladies now, sofia nelson, former council to the house republican committee and author of "black woman redefined." she's also a life long republican who will be voting for hillary clinton and also with us cnn political
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commentator kayleigh mcinerny. sofia, to you? >> there's a disconnect in the trump campaign, they can't stop themselves from these poor racial analogies or immigrant analogies, skittles are mixed, right? they're diversed, they have colors. comparing syrian refugees, many children of whom are wounded, hurt, sick to a bowl of poisonous skit is also so off the rail i'm not sure i know how to comment other than to say the trump campaign has to get more disciplined about how they talk about people of color and immigrants and particularly in this syrian situation. >> kayleigh, the former chief of the cia called this "clemenumsy" how do you see it? >> i don't think the skittle reference had anything do with race.
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he put forth an analogy he thought would be understandable to the american people because he was trying to make the point, look, just this past week we had two folks who came over via the refugee program, one trying to stab people at a mall in minnesota, the other who set off three bombs here in the tri-state area. you look at germany where the obama administration wants more and more refugees, germany's police have said we have 410 open truce cases in the refugee program. look, not all refugees are bad, there are many refugees who we have great compassion for which is why the trump campaign wants safe zones and i think we want to talk about compassion for refugees, the obama administration has had a lack of compassion by not protecting refugees. >> i think a lot of people would agree with you but bottom line, this is comparing candy to humans. >> i don't think that's what he was doing at all. i don't. >> brooke, he was, he put a picture of skittles, he absolutely made the analogy that if you bring over a group of syrian refugees and a few of them might be terrorists or bad
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people would you take in the whole group. that's the analogy. come on, kayleigh, at some point you have to be honest. >> that's not it. >> it absolutely. is he put the picture on. >> soef yarphisophia, he's maki >> sophia grew with kellyanne conway, you adore kellyanne. >> but that has nothing do with how i feel about this comment whether or not i love kellyanne and i do. but i'm a life long republican and i am going to vote for hillary clinton like george herbert walker bush and many other republicans because of stuff just like this. >> sophia, it's difficult for the administration to listen to their own advisors when you have the director of national intelligence, james clapper, coming out and saying there is a risk isis will try to infiltrate the refugee program. when you have to fbi director issuing warnings that we can't fully vet these people because there's not adequate records. >> i don't disagree. kayleigh, we don't disagree --
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>> he's trying to illustrate in a simple way the problem we are facing. this had nothing do with comparing children to skittles. it's called an analogy. >> brooke, how can she say it has nothing do with it when he tweets the picture, he makes the statement and at the end of the day we agree that not vetting these people properly is a problem and that we have issues and we should be concerned about terrorism. i agree. but there has to be a better sensitivity from my party -- and i'm not some johnny come lately, i've been on the scene a long time, check my resume. i've been in the trenches for the gop, my name has been on a ballot so this isn't easy for me to support hillary clinton who i don't agree with a lot she stands for but at the end of the day, this kind of stuff out of the trump campaign consistently is a challenge for me. >> sophia, the candidate you're supporting comes from an administration that didn't do the sensitive thing which would be setting up safe zones and that little boy -- and our hearts break for the picture, that little boy wouldn't have been in that scenario if donald
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trump's plan would have been implement which had are safe zones to protect these children and these families. >> brooke, i don't agree. i just don't agree. >> agree not to agree today, ladies, appreciate both of your voices, though, sophia nelson, thank you, kayleigh mcenany, thank you. let's get into the investigation of the bombing sn suspect in new york and new jersey. we have new reaction from the fbi about their encounter with the suspect's father and also about the suspect's wife. stand by for news.
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now i say he's a terrorist. >> why did you call the fbi. what happened? >> what did he do? >> he stab misdemeanor i son. he stab mid-son and i put them to jail. >> who is he? >> what son did he stab? >> nasser what happened? >> for no reason. excuse me, i can go now. >> that's the suspect's father speaking to reporters in new jersey. he said the he called the fbi when his son was acting violently. the fbi released a statement and evan perez has it. what did the fbi say regarding that incident? >> they're putting clarity as to what happened back in 2014 when the suspect was arrested as part of a domestic violence situation, an altercation among the family including which he stabbed one of the brothers, there's been a misunderstanding as to whether or not the father reported his son as a terrorist which apparently he made
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statements. the fbi says -- we have a statement from the fbi they said "in august, 2014, the fbi took a statement based on comments made by his father after a domestic dispute reported to authorities. the fbi conducted internal database reviews, interagency checks and multiple interviews none of which revealed ties to terrorism." i think one of the issues here, brooke, is the question of whether or not the fbi could have done something back in 2014 when this incident occurred. the father was hurt at the time by neighbors to say something to the effect of my son is a terrorist, he was concerned at the time his son was hanging out with criminal elements. he recanted this. he said he didn't mean it, it was heat of the moment the fbi did initial checks but he was in jail, the charges were dropped and the fbi walked away thinking
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this was a domestic incident that didn't add up to much. then we have the incidents that happened over the week end. >> also quickly over the weekend following up on the wife who we've known from your reporting took off from pakistan just a couple days before the attacks. >> she did leave and the fbi was trying to figure out where she was and to talk to her so we understand today she did go into the embassy in the uaw, the united arab emirates, and spoke to u.s. investigators and gave a statement. >> she did? >> in other words she is providing some cooperation to them. we don't know if she's still there or returned to pakistan. there's been a little bit of opaqueness about where her whereabouts are but the fbi is satisfied she is trying to assist in the investigation. she can help frankly put a little bit of clarity into what she saw, whether she saw her
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husband turning in a certain manner, whether she saw him making bombs. all of these things she could provide clarity to. we'd love to know what she said. we don't know yet. >> evan perez, thank you so much. coming up next, a member of the kennedy family says bush 41, president george h.w. bush, is voting for hillary clinton. hear why some in his camp are reportedly furious, this just six days before the first presidential debate.
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one of the world's most famous couples is calling it quits. have you heard that brad pitt and angelina jolie got married in 2014 and now she's filing for divorce citing irreconcilable differences. they have a total of six kids. in a statement to cnn brad pitt said this "i am very saddened by this but what matters most now is the well-being of our kids." with me now, the deputy editor of "people" magazine and randy kessler, author of "divorce, protect yourself, your kids and
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your future." he also represented clients in celebrity divorce cases including the ex-wife of usher. all right, so nice to have both of you on. j.d., let me begin with you. i know this is one of those hollywood couples, not a lot of people saw this coming, what the heck happened? >> that's the big question, right? they were together not just for the two years of their marriage but 12 years and they have six children. it's a shock. those who know them know how devoted they are to their family and while they are not like typical married people because they are movie stars. it takes a lot to break up a marriage like this. i'll let your legal experts talk about the filings but people are wondering why now, why so quickly and a lot of people scratching their heads as to
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whether this was sudden. >> six kids, she wants sole physical custody and would allow for visitations. can you walk us through how complicated that is? >> there's no rhyme ortron what we do. you see everything across the board. they could file because she was going to be in town and she had to deal with it or because he said something that irritated her. i'm sure her lawyer tried to work out to brad pitt. they have more to lose by a big nasty divorce than the court will do with their money so they disagree about the kids. just because she wants primary custody or physical study, that's a starting point but she's not saying he should be so supervised or limited because of bad conduct so we'll see how it unfolds but it will solve itself. i don't think we'll see a trial.
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>> i wouldn't think so. i mean, these are two grown-up people who are devoted to these kids and they made it clear in the first few hours that they'll put them first and as you say it's not clear as to when you check a box on a form what you're trying to do here. just to make it clear they'll share custody of these children and whether domiciled or not, these are people who move all over the world, there can be all kinds of reasons for that but they're making the signal that they'll be civilized about this, for sure. >> she's quoted in a "vogue" article from last year talking about the importance of family "i'm happy to be home, i want to really focus on my children doing the best i can to guide and protect them before they're out of the house. these are their most important years. j.d., we all remember, of course, his famous marriage before to jennifer aniston. the internet is the internet.
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the peoples have begun. how did angelina and brad meet. >> famously at work and there was a lot of tabloid coverage of the fact that they met while making "mr. and mrs. smith" together and the public at large has a perceptions but of how the drama played out. if you're a public figure you want to be conscious of how people perceive this one assumes they wanted to make sure they weren't repeating some kind of story that gets churned over and over again. and the main awareness is to make sure your children are okay. so i'm sure that anyone can relate. if you have a family, if you have children, if you're married
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splitting up a marriage is difficult in ordinary circumstances and these aren't ordinary people so there was thought put into this i'm sure. >> we wish them well in peace and privacy. j.d. and randy, thank you so much. >> my pleasure. >> thanks. >> thank you. today the wells fargo ceo said he was sorry after his employees created millions of fake accounts with real customers' information. but it's not enough for lawmakers like senator elizabeth warren. hear why she says that ceo should end up in jail. to severe chronic plaque psoriasis. so i made a decision to talk to my dermatologist about humira. humira works inside my body to target and help block a specific source of inflammation that contributes to my symptoms. in clinical trials, most adults taking humira were clear or almost clear, and many saw 75% and even 90% clearance in just 4 months. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened;
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beach in his red shirt and blue abouts. we are here right now because there are mothers separated from their children like a woman in a camp in greece who held on to her family photographs, heard her children cry on the phone and who said "my breath is my children. everyday i am dying 10, 20, 30 times times." we're here because there are fathers who want to build a new life like the man from syria who lost his wife and daughter in the war. who we welcomed to america and who says i still think i have a chance to make a difference in the world. the secretary general, heads of state, heads of government, distinguished guests, ladies and gentlemen as you saw in the video we are facing a crisis of epic proportions.
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more than 65 million people have been driven from their homes which is more than any time since the second world war. among them are more than 21 million refugees who have fled their countries. anyone and everything they've ever known fleeing with a suitcase or the clothes on their back and i'm here today, i called this summit, because this crisis is one of the most urgent tests of our time, our capacity for collective action. it tests first and foremost our ability to end conflicts because so many of the world's refugees come from just three countries rahhaged by war -- syria, afghanistan and somalia. and i said today to the general assembly the mentality that allows for this is something we
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can not excuse and collectively we continue to make excuses. it's not the subject of this summit but we all know that what is happening in syria, for example, is unacceptable. and we are not as unified as we should be in pushing to make it stop. it's a test of our international system where all nations ought to share in our collective responsibilities because the vast majority of refugees are hosted by just ten countries who are bearing a very heavy burden. among them turkey, pakistan, lebanon, iran, ethiopia, countries that often have fewer
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resours resources than many of those who are doing little or something. it's a crisis of our shared security. not because refugees are a threat. refugees, most of whom are women and children, are often fleeing war and terrorism, they are victims. their families who want to be safe and to work, be good citizens and contribute to their country i was talking to a woman in germany, she already speaks some english, now she's trying to learn german who are interest ed in assimilating and contributing to the society in which they find themselves. in recent years in the united states we worked to put in intensive screening and security checks so that we can welcome refugees and ensure our security. in fact, refugees are subject to more vigorous screening than the average tourist.
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we've seen refugees start new businesses and help revitalize communities. i believe refugees can make us stronger. so the challenge is when desperate refugees pay coldhearted traffickers for passage it funds the when nations find themselves hosting massive refugee populations for years on end, it can risk more instability. it oftentimes surfaces tensions in our society when we have disorderly and disproportionate migration into some countries that skews our politics and is
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subject to demagoguery. and, if we were to turn refugees away simply because of their background or religion or, for example, because they are muslim, then we would be reinforcing terrorist propaganda, that nations like my own are somehow opposed to islam. which is an ugly lie that must be rejected in all of our countries by upholding the values of pluralism in adversity. finally, this crisis is a test of our common humanity. whether we give in to suspicion and fear and build walls or whether we see ourselves in another. those girls -- >> president of the united states speaking at the united nations. it's unga week here in manhattan. you heard him just say refugees can make us stronger. on the opposite end of the spectrum of the republican nominee for president, donald trump, you heard the reference again today to walls.
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they're in very different places when it comes to refugees globally, especially from these war-torn nations and what to do. michelle kosinski is our white house correspondent. she is outside the united nations. the president calling for a course correction and asking for more global cooperation. michelle. >> reporter: yeah. you see how big an issue this has become politically in the united states. so whenever president of the united states now speaks on this -- and he convened this summit -- you see how much impact he try toss make his words have. sometimes he makes reference to am some of the things that have been said in america over this. there is a global meeting with real goals, to have countries contribute more money, step up, for things like not just immediate aid to refugee populations. and you heard the president say there are now 65 million displaced people around the world. but also provide things like job training, jobs themselves,
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education for children. obviously the need is great. but president obama also takes criticism on this issue because he is trying to get countries to step up and take more refugees when the united states, in this present fiscal year, has taken in only 14,000 syrian refugees. you see countries like germany, turkey, jordan, take in more than a million each. so there has been plenty of questioning over the administration's policies, why hasn't the wealthy united states taken in many, many more. i mean, politics has something to do with that, the lengthy vetting process that refugees have to go through. so president obama really has to balance it out. he likes to emphasize how much more money than other countries the united states has contributed to humanitarian aid and just the effort that goes into trying to get countries together to contribute more. that's what he wants to see happen here. >> michelle, thank you so much
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washington bureau chief for the daily beast. you guys had the scoop. i read your piece on on how hillary clinton is sitting there, watching the latest and greatest highlights from the primaries and the debates. what are they looking for? >> it's a little bit of donald trump 101. trying to familiarize herself with everything he's done. the positions on various issues, trying to home in on everything he's said. if the debate moderators are not playing the role of fact-checkers as much as other years, she may have to do that herself, i'm told. so she wants to be in the weeds, in donald trump's mind, also trying to find out what may have gotten under his skin. we saw the moments with ted cruz during the primary debates. she is watching those carefully. she is doing debate prepather home this afternoon, i am told. reading and studying. she'll do it a lot between now and monday. she has one campaign event tomorrow in florida. otherwise, it's debate prep.
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>> as far as donald trump is concerned, he said not doing the mock debates. he doesn't want to appear scripted. he wants to be authentic. >> he is sounding a lot like he did for the republican debates. he told bill o'reilly last night, if she was nice to him he would be nice to her. but that he wasn't afraid to go there. he sort of outlined it but sort of didn't. like we saw in the republican debates. maybe should go back, look at the dvr and see what he did last time. >> she is prepared. could be anything from monica to marriage to e-mails. >> she is. he likes to throw a punch. often he has waited to see how someone else reacts to him, but she is prepared for all of those moments. how did you treat monica lewinsky 20 years ago. why did you not respond on e-mails. one thing that donald trump is doing, he sent out a survey, i just got a second ago, asking for his supporters for the trump
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debate preparation survey. should he refer to her as crooked hillary. >> do you have to put your e-mail in there and all your information. >> of course. of course. >> i have been getting a lot of trump e-mail. >> we're all on these list. what will you be watching for? 60 seconds. >> to the extent they can both talk about their message will be interesting. >> versus like talking over? >> donald trump was saying a lot, he countered hillary over and over again. so if they actually talk about their messages will be interesting. they both will say that's what they want to do. >> do we know yet who is playing trump in her mock debates? >> i do not know. they believe that there will be millions of new people watching this who have not tuned in. that's what they're so mindful of. they hope they don't lose their voice like i am doing right now. >> you have been chasing them
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around the country. we're almost there. 49 days away. jackie and jeff, thank you so much. so much more on all of this coming up now in washington because "the lead" with jake tapper starts right now. thanks, brooke. this is the only time this hour you'll hear this word. brangelina. "the lead" starts now. his mother once said his son is a terrorist. two years ago. new details about the man accused of planting bombs in and around new york city, including his notes about the boston bombers and an al qaeda propaganda master mind. republican royalty saying never trump. president george h.w. bush reportedly ready to vote for the wife of the guy who made him a one-termer. plus, attack on humanity and aid convoys blown up on their way to save the sick and dying in syria


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