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. that does it for us. thanks for watching. cnn tonight with don lemon starts now. donald trump on the defensive tonight with just six days to go until he faces hillary clinton on the debate stage for the first time. this is cnn tonight, i'm don lemon. reports trump's charity foundation paid out over a quarter of a million dollars, to settle lawsuits against his businesses, essentially using other peoples' money to settle when trump's businesses were sued according to the "washington post" and meanwhile, the trump campaign is defending a tweet from the candidate ae'sn comparing syrian refugees to skittles, and former george h.w.
bush saying he will vote for hillary clinton. not his own party's candidate. that's as clinton herself holed up in her home in chappaquah comparing to what she calls a contact sport, and the alleged bomber who injured 31 people in a blast in new york city. new charges filed amid whether the fbi missed questions from the suspect's father. jim acosta, you are following in the battleground state of north carolina where the candidates are deadlocked in a new poll. clinton's up by one point, within the margin of error, trump on the offensive tonight, what is he saying? >> he is seizing on this terror attack that happened in new york over the weekend, don, and making the case that his policies on immigration and terrorism taking the fight to isis, are what's needed right now and that hillary clinton has simply been soft on what he
calls ra calls radical islamic terrorism, and at the verey end of his speech, he veered off message and went off i guess hillary clinton and the obama administration on what is happening in the african-american community. listen to what donald trump had to say about this earlier tonight. >> our african-american communities are absolutely in the worst shape that they've ever been in before ever, ever, ever. you take a look at the inner cities you get no education, you get no jobs, you get shot walking down the street. they're worse. i mean, honestly, places like afghanistan are safer than some of our inner cities. it's resinating because you see what's happening with my poll numbers with african-americans. they're going, like, high.
>> and of course, don, you know, i think a fact-checker out there might be snapping his pencil identiout there, one or two of them that. is not a fact check false that is a fact check ridiculous. obviously the american community has had periods of time in this country's history it was much worse than where it is right now. the civil rights era, jim crow era, slavery and so forth, so that just -- that kind of comment just falls under the category of hyperbole. donald trump is feeling very confident, less than one week before the first debate of hillary clinton. consider this tweet that he put out, he says hillary clinton is taking the day off again. she needs the rest. sleep well, hillary, see you at the debate. don he's sounding like a trash-talking prize fighter heading into a heavy-weight bout. the question is canny had tak h punch from hillary clinton? >> help me help you when it
comes to african-americans. let's talk about this. it makes no sense what you're saying, pump. come talk to me. we'll have a discussion and we'll sit down and we'll have a beer or something. there's also a report -- i'll get off my high horse. it's justin sulti insulting. donald trump spent more than a quarter million dollars to settle legal issues dealing with his businesses. what do you know about that? >> that's right. and we should give credit to our friends at the "washington post," david farrenhold who uncovered this, found that $258,000 from the trump foundation was used to settle these lawsuits donald trump was facing. one of them had do with legal fines that were racked up in florida over the placement of a flagpole at his resort, marsh a mar-a-lago. kellyanne conway said some of that money was used to help
charity groups, instead of settling out of court or settling in court with some of these jurisdictions where he was facing these lawsuits, he paid charity money to charity organizations they helped charities. so she's saying that that did not help his business, this is not a violation of u.s. tax laws, but there are a lot of tax experts who say this is clearly in violation of u.s. tax laws. >> and lots of backlash against donald trump's junior's skittles tweet. the one that compares candidate tow syrian refugees, what's a campaign saying about that? >> right. the campaign put out a statement earlier this evening, don, saying that don donald trump jr. is a tremendous asset is to campaign and in their view. don trump junior is speaking the truth to when it comes to -- and they use these words speaking the truth when it comes to the issue of syrian refugees but a lot of people disagree. john favro, speech writer for
president obama put out a tweet saying is this also a skittle and it was a picture of that young syrian boy who was blood-covered, that a lot of people held up, that image went viral of the plight of these refugees and the trump campaign is not completely embracing the skittles tweet that don trump junior put out there, but what is at the heart of that message and donald trump was not backing away from this at that rally this evening that they believe extreme vets ing whting is need countries where terrorism is a big problem to keep those kinds of immigrants out of this country and they're not backing off that one bit, don. >> interesting. i've not seen a kid comparing it as good either. two wrongs don't make a right. thank you very much, i appreciate that. i want to turn to cnn's jamie a gangel and mark preston. >> how are you, don?
>> is this happening? it's such a crazy campaign. 49 days to go? 49 days to go. there's new poll out, in north carolina, a tight race. we also have new poll numbers in florida. is it good news for hillary clinton? >> it shows this is such a volatile verse right now and we've seen just in the past couple weeks the polls slide back towards donald trump, showing this is going to be a very competitive race going into november. look, at this point, i don't think that we can look at any one incident in isolation. the skilgts instance, we can't look in isolation, but as we get closer and as we move to this debate, this very-important debate next minute is really going to be a -- a telling point for how the campaign is going to move forward. if somebody comes out of that debate, don, very, very strong, you're going to see whoever comes out of it very, very weak, really going on the offensive and we've seen it being a dirty campaign now, let's just talk about it on tuesday morning after that debate. >> it's interesting. let's put the numbers up and
look at the mflorida poll numbers, johnson at 6%, and stein at 1%. >> trump needs to win florida, let's be clear about that. he has to win florida. >> 54% of florida believes the birther turnabout was made for political reasons that poll shows that, as well. >> no doubt about it. he dugout the foundation of his campaign several years beforehand and he really pop you'po populgaited this idea that donald trump wasn't born here, and he closed the door on it for political reasons. >> it doesn't close the door for something that he touted and pushed for five years. >> he chose to say you know it was over. >> and for establishing republicans, spespecially republicans like george h.w. bush. they cannot come to terms with a
donald trump presidency, and george h.w. bush is voting for? >> hillary clinton. we've seen a lot of defections among the republicans including people very close to former president bush 41, the father, brent skrocroft, other members of the administration. what happened was a little complicated. there was a meeting up in kenny bunk port of the points of light foundati foundation, which is bipartisan, and kathryn kennedy townsend, rfk's daughter is on the advisory board and in what everybody thought was a private meeting, they -- he did not make an announcement by the way. there was reception line and she went to say hello, had her picture taken and i guess she asked who are you voting for and he said, hillary clinton. and she went and posted it on facebook. >> not happy about it. >> and to say that board members, republicans and
democrats were pointed would be the polite word, furious. this board meets once a yeefrye. i don't think she's going to be on it next year. look, this is important. even though they have publicly -- they're not going on the record either confirming or denying. they're saying his vote is private. my sources have told me it is
first time. people who know him well, he's told this before, but they certain did not expect it to come out the way it did. >> do you think theire's possibility as it gets closer he will come out and say something, at least a statement? >> i think -- is it possible, yes. today he's now on the record. everybody knows. they're not denying it. >> his campaign manager was on the air talking about, this let's listen to it to, to erin burnett. >> i respect the 92-year-old president and his decision and americans are very grateful total bush family for their public service, that's his right. little ironic he would vote for the wife who knocked him out of the office, and defeated george h.w. bush. jeb bush really failed all expectations, that he would be the quote electable, the predominant person on the stage.
he lasted through south carolina, got out of the case before march first, so i know there are a lot of hurt feelings there. >> isn't she making the case for him? >> nobody wants to see their child hurt and it was a -- >> did he say anything about that? >> no, of course not. did he say donald trump and you said bush 41, could you pick two more polar-opposite personalities? genteel, civil, that's a gentleman, that's bush xli. i did think this was very interesting because we reached out to the trump campaign very early today, all day long, they did not comment. someone was sitting on donald trump. they did not want him commenting about it. but, when kellyanne came out, very soft demeanor, different style, although she did say a couple things. she said 92 years old, you know --
>> former president. >> exactly. it was just a softer -- softer take. >> might this help donald trump considering, you know, the -- people are bucking the establishment right now? could this help him? >> locok, if you're supporting donald trump because you're bucking the establishment, you're already in that corner. i think people look at george h.w. bush as a president who did a good job, who served his country and they have a lot of respect for him. if it was george w. bush who has been quite a gentleman in his post presidency, that wouldn't be as effective because there still is a lot of rough feelings over the iraq war, no question about that. but the fact george h.w. bush, the father, didn't say anything today, speaks volumes about where he's at, and as jamie has reported out, there are a lot his advisors already backing hillary clinton. >> yeah, it would be interesting if you had someone like a carter or clinton, if she wasn't the husband or the wife -- saying i can't vote for this woman, it
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. the count down on, six days until the first presidential debate between hillary clinton and donald trump and clinton getting a big boost, sources saying that former president, george h.w. bush plans to vote for her. we just discussed that so let's talk about it with the former trump campaign manager, corey lewandowski, still receiving service from the campaign and is a cnn commentator, and contributor to the atlantic, this is going to be the
most-watched thing on television. >> a hundred million people. >> or more. so we just discussed george hw bush is going to vote for hillary clinton. he's the guy that made george h.w. bush clinton -- her husband -- let me get this out -- made him a one-term president. what do you think of this? >> look, i think a lot of people in this country respect former president bush for what he's accomplished. his military career, his service to the country. no one questions that. i do think that you have to remember that donald trump took his son, jeb, labeled him as low energy and what we saw this weekend was jeb as a limousine driver on the emmys, that's as much excitement as he's going to have left and he was going to be the next great bush family tradition and also you have to remember how close the push and the clinton family became when they left office. it's been no secret that bill clinton and president bush, former president bush have had a
good relationship. i'm not surprised at all. this is more about the establishment, keeping the power within the establishment. >> i asked mark preston about that and also jamie and jamie said this is more than what happened in the primaries, just temperament. this is a very classy guy who seeing someone who is not see classy and not fit to be president of the united states. >> do you know what i think it is? it's the washington, lite that want to make sure the washington elite continue the power they have. >> he was the president of the united states, he was director of the cia, member of congress. his father was a u.s. senator from connecticut. this is a washington elite who wants to make sure the washington elites stay in power and for 30 years nothing has changed and donald trump will bring fundamental change. >> do you think this opens the door for more on-the-fence republicans? >> a lot of reagan administrations have come forward. i don't think this is going to be a decisive turn, but why
would george h.w. bush endorse donald trump? they have nothing in common. he tried to get into service in world war ii. donald trump evaded service in vietnam. george bush was a highly experienced candidate, and representative for the u.n., cia. george w. bush is a guy who built an international coalition for the gulf war -- >> this doesn't surprise you? >> not at all. >> not news to you? >> the two are oil and water. president obama made an incorrect jab at donald trump today in his final address to the united nations, let's listen to this. >> today a nation ringed by walling would only imprison itself. so the answer cannot be a simple rejection of global integration. instead, we must work together to make sure the benefits of such integration are broadly shared. and that disruptions, economic,
political, and cultural, that are caused by integration are squarely addressed. >> what's your reaction, corey? >> i think the post had a unique experience after the terror attack, and instead he used his u.n. speech to push climate change and that's a fall are of this administration. he goes to the u.n. and talks about the most prevalent problem which is climate change three days after a potential terror attack in the city that he's speaking? i think the president is out of touch with what's going on here. >> go ahead. >> i live in new york city. did you remember the hurricane could bring about the city to be in water? >> three days ago a bomb went off, and the president could talk about that, but instead he talked about cli net changmate
>> he's not a threat to live in new york city. >> he decided to -- on saturday night -- you compare that to the fact lower manhattan could be under water. >>ite i'd rather be under water than be hit by a terrorist. >> that's not an exessential threat. >> if he was giving a political speech, i'm sure he would have been criticized especially about the presidential campaign and although it is a huge problem, a terrorist threat falls way down on the list of it happening. ha you have a better chance of being struck by lightning twice. most people in america don't die from terrorist attacks. >> i understand but keeping our people safe is the most-important job the president has ask addressing the concerns
of terrorism. >> that was only one thing he discussed. >> understanding this threat has been more real and we've seen more home-grown terrorist attacks, he could have addressed and spent more time on it. >> the difference is the president is not one of these people like your former boss, donald trump, who massively backs the terrorist threat. the chances of being killed in a terrorist attack are enfinetly small. we've already seen a major stay almost wiped out by a climate change event and that's what the president should be talking about. the tragedy is that donald trump doesn't even accept the reality it exists as a problem. >> i'm not -- >> more people drown in new york than get killed by terrorist attack. >> not by the east river, where
we're back. donald trump campaigning in north carolina, and a new poll shows the candidates are neck-and-neck, hillary clinton spending the day preparing for monday night's first presidential debate. co corey lewandowski, and peter biener. the sound bite we played -- you mentioned global warming. it was about global integration, so that was a small part of the president's speech, it wasn't the bulk of his speech. we talked about a lot of things that had to do about world problems. >> it's not only a response to donald trump, but to bernie sanders and the people in his campaign. the president wanted a signature part of his life years he wanted the itpp. the president is arguing against people in both parties who are
essentially anti-globalization. >> let's move on now and talk about donald trump is making another outreach tonight. he did for african-americans. let listen to this. >> our african-american communities are absolutely in the worst shape they've ever been in before, ever, ever, ever, you take a look at the inner cities, you get no education, you go no jobs, you get shot walking down the street. they're worse -- honestly, places like afghanistan are safer than some of our inner cities, and i say to the african-american communities -- and i think it's resinating -- because you see what's happening with my poll numbers with african-american african-americans. they're going like high. >> first of all, that's not true. >> they are getting higher every
day. >> they're not. >> how do you defend that, corey? >> if you talk about the south side of chicago -- >> that's an out liar. >> chicago doesn't happen in every single city. >> baltimore. >> that's like saying beverly hills. america will never be as rich as beverly hills and the crime rate will not be as high as it is in chicago. it's horrible what's happening in chicago, but that is an example people use as an extreme. >> let's take the city of baltimore. >> okay. go on. >> more than 200 deaths have taken place in the city of baltimore this year. >> we keep saying all of these bad things. do you know what has more to do with crime than anything? it's poverty, not race. >> i agree with you. and i can read the statistics to you. it has nothing to do just because it's black people in chicago. it has to do with poverty and guns and also gaubecause he's
giving all of these bad things about african-americans. nine out of ten black people -- nine out of ten black people, 12 or older, currently don't use illicit drugs and seven out of ten fathers, who help their children every day and spend time with their families, and then it goes on and on and talks about blacks in college, blacks have competed 25 to 29, nine out of ten completed high school, or equivalent as the national average. among boston universities, eight out of ten are enrolled in high universities like toughs, harvard, boston college, university, mit, bentley, ba baberson. he tosses out these red herings, saying there are some issues in
the african community i would like to know about and i would like to help them about. why does he continue to antagonize african-americans, while still saying he's helping them. it's insulting. >> chicago has the toughest gun laws in the country, and 22% of the african-american population lives in poverty. we could do better. more african-americans receive resistance than they did when barack obama took office. what he said what do you have to lose by giving me a chance? let me bring jobs. let me do better for everybody. >> what do you have to lose by electing a man with a history of racism. >> of creating jobs. >> a man whose father wouldn't allow african-americans into his housing projects? >> you're going to hold him for his father -- >> it was his father. >> he was running the company. >> no, he wasn't.
that was 40 years ago. >> it was not 40 years ago. what did your father do? can we hold you accountable? >> ridiculous. >> don't mention his father. >> let's talk about hymn. >> corey, let him finish. >> his father didn't wage year, after year, a racist campaign to discredit the president of united states and he said -- the most lunatic thing he said in that statement was it's never, ever, ever, three evers, been worse for african-americans. >> that's not true. >> it was better during slavery, and segregation. it's an absurd to say things have never been worse for african-americans. >> if you look at the polls -- if you look at the polls -- >> 3%, congratulations. >> number two -- >> a person of color who lived the last 50 years in this country, things have never been better for african-americans. >> when donald trump opened his club in florida, what did he do? he open today to blacks and jews which was never allowed before and went to sue to get that done
in federal court. >> there's reason for that. following 9/11, what did he do? he offered the reverend jesse jackson space in his building because no one else was going to let him. >> there's a reason. >> you don't want to talk about those things. he also has a number of african-americans and hispanics, tens of thousands of people. and the totality, he's employed thousands. >> why doesn't he ask his after conditi african-american friends, if they were indeed employees who weren't afraid of losing their jobs they would sit down and say, listen, mr. trump, what you're saying is insulting and i know you're not talking to me, you're talking at me and you're reaching out to make other people more comfortable voting for you, that's what i would say to him, as someone who has giver him a chance, and interviewed him more than eight or nine times, i would say that to him and as he as candidate of the president of the united states, don't understand, then he
doesn't want to represent everyone in the country. >> his message wasn't delivered in the after conditirican-ameri community, then he went to an african-american church and said you don't really believe it. hillary clinton is doing nothing to support the african-american community. she's doing nothing for 30 years to support the african-american community. what is she doing? she's not going out and asking for votes. >> i'm not here to defend hillary clinton. >> obamacare led to millions and millions of african-americans getting healthcare. >> what does hillary clinton have to do with obamacare? >> she was part of the obama administration. >> as secretary of state? >> if you look at s-chip, was the healthcare plan she pushed after the failure of her healthcare efforts, that also has let millions of african-american kids, getting healthcare, getting minimum wage, earned income credit. what has donald trump did? he said african-americans are
worse than slavery. of course african-americans have laughing at him out of the room. it's the honest truth, corey. >> hillary clinton is not going to receive the same level of support from the african-american community donald trump did. down what th when ten, 12, 15% of the african-american community vote donald trump, hillary clinton is going to lose. that's what the differentiator is. they have the democrats and the republicans have taken the african merchant community for granted for 30 years and donald trump has said, give me a chance. >> this is a conversation where everyone needs to sit down at the table, like you and i, every once in a while, we should do that and not talk at each other. your candidate needs to listen, as well. it's a conversation we want to continue, but this is television, i have to take a break so we'll have you both back, i appreciate it, thank you very much. new charges in the suspect in the bombing that injured 31 people in new york city, but did the fbi miss a warning from the suspect's own father?
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national correspondents, i have a lot of questions. jim, federal questions filed against ahmad rahami. what are we learning? >> we're learning, one, he bought a lot of the components on ebay, shipped them to an address in new jersey, just shows you the ease of finding the pieces of putting together a bomb, that's one thing, and this is the most alarming, that her performed tests of his exclusives, of what looked to be a sill i understand cal device, the other, he set you'off a bom his backyard. a relative filmed himself, this was in 48 hours of the attacks on saturday. so this just presented very reasonable questions as to did someone hear this happen? did someone see this happen, and
why did they not report that. >> that's my next question to you. did someone not know? people were saying i had no idea, or did he have help? >> i asked the new york police commissioner today where do they stand on did he have a broader network and he said this is an ongoing investigation, they're still talking to friends, social media contacts to determine if he had help, but then you have this other category right of not reporting things that you see or know. we had this with the orlando shooter, as well. what did you know before, whether it's family members or others and when you're blowing up stuff in your backyard, you have to think that someone at least heard it. it doesn't mean someone would then conclude this guy's planning a terror attack, but it's a far question at this point. >> let's listen to the interview with the new police commissioner, here it is. >> reporter: double that he acted alone with these attacks and attempted attacks? >> jim, it's early on in the investigation so as we determine this, we're going to see who his
acquaintances were, family, friends, go to social media, see if he had any phones and go through that to make that determination. >> it's an ongoing investigation, he said. they haven't determined if there was a broader in the work. >> considering the preparation that he bought some of the stuff on ebay, he did a test in his backyard, they filmed him, do you think he did it alone? >> he might have done it alone in the united states, we saw that, but shizad, the time square bomber, in 20 t10 was trained out there in pakistan. it's possible when he went back on these extended trips to pakistan, afghanistan, he could have gotten some kind of bomb making training. this was a very powerful bomb by all accounts. we're talking about highly explosive detonates by an explosive chemical, which is pretty tricky to make. we haven't seen many cases at
all, of islamist terrorists in the wests who managed to not get that training. it's pretty difficult to do. you need instruction generally. >> one question, could he have blown up his neighborhood? >> from what we have in the complaint he only tested a very small amount of in sindery material. that may have been the hmdt he was testing, the detonator we saw. we saw azazi, an american-al-qaeda recruit, who was trained to come back to the united states and do exactly that same kind of testing for the detonator. >> why weren't more people hurt? considering this htmd -- did i say it correctly? hmdt and how powerful, why weren't more people hurt? >> here's the thinking, it was placed in the heavy-duty metallic dumpster, that
contained the blast. you really could have had carnage, if it could have been put on a subway car. this was a device significantly more powerful than the boston devices just a few years ago. this is the most powerful blast really since the world trade center attack, the first one, in 1993 when, it comes to islamist terror attacks in the united states. this could have been a truly horrific incident. >> we forget about the 1993 eye remember being in the newsroom. this has been going on for a long time. the father spoke to reporters today, listen. >> he's a terrorist. >> why did you call him a terrorist? what happened in. >> he's doing bad. >> what did he do bad? he hit my wife, and i put him in jail two years ago. >> who is he? >> my son there what son did he stab and what happened in.
>> it was for no reason. excuse, i can go now. >> and he hurt your wife, you say? >> yes. >> and what did he do to your wife? >> huh? >> what did he do to your wife? >> my wife is not here. i'm going now. >> let him through, please. >> reporter: did you talk to him two years ago? >> two years ago. >> compare and contrast other terrorists on american soil. >> the old saying all happy families are happy in the same way, all unhappy families are unhappy in different ways m. it comes to islamist terrorism you can see how unhappy they can be. the guy is physically violent against members of his own family, his father calls him terrorist to the fbi, and the word means someone who hurts their own family, so there could have been an a fifilial connotation, and then there comes the fear, i don't want my
kid to be locked away for years or so. but there was something going on in the family dynamic. he went with his brother to afghanistan and pakistan and his father is on record saying he was congregating with some nasty people, some bad people over there. who were they? were they part of a terrorist network? as paul's alluding, the guy had some technological capability, but was a moron when it came to the trade cast, taking footage on a relative's cell phone camera, and putting this in a dumpster, also quite stupid. >> in case, after case, after case, in the family dynamic, we've seen second generation refugees, rebel against their families, against a more traditional islamic culture of their parents, it's their quest, for identity, there seems to be a personality clash between
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and we're back and we're talking about the bomber, and the motives of the investigation. now, back with me, our guests. jim, did the fbi miss anything? did they drop the ball? >> they missed something. did they drop the ball? these are difficult judgment calls. what the fbi said, in 2014, they did multiple interviews. they talked to other law enforcement agencies. they also did an internal database review. in other words they looked everywhere to see if they had nexus between this guy and terrorism. they didn't have the evidence, so they call today domestic dispute, and moved on. these guys can't predict the future so they're making judgment calls. the trouble is, he was on the radar screen, right, and in addition to this, as he was coming back from afghanistan and pakistan, he was stopped for secondary screening sometimes when you're coming from these countries that information was entered into a database law
enforcement agencies can access and again make im-perfect judgments on incomplete information. it's a hard thing to do. >> you were saying, you sort of whispered that profile is not uncommon, his profile. >> listen you look at a lot of these guys. look at the orlando shooter, domestic violence, run-ins with the law. the career didn't work out. he tried to be a security guard. people looking for an eye depid. this guy clearly had some violent identities. his own father felt the need to go to the authorities and called hmz him a terrorist. a certain kind of person will commit violence, and is an appeal about jihad, to people who don't have much. look at the boston bomber. the older brother was a failed boxer. that didn't work out, here's my new thing. >> i want to talk about these
journals, that he had admiration for other jihadi figures. what was he writing about? >> he drunk the jihadi cokool-a. he wanted to be come a mattyrta. he seemed to adore an american-yemeny cleric, and his message was stay home, launch attacks against the united states, because the united states is at war with islam. he really in-vibed that. >> all all love anwar alalaki. >> the cia doned him, and are drawing people who are loyal to al-qaeda, but isis. every isis-inspired attacker, san bernardino, everybody, they all listen to him and envibe his
ideology. >> didn't al-qaeda say they disowned this guy? >> he was a -- you know, revered member of al-qaeda in the arabian peninsula. >> the bomer here? >> the african taliban said they were not involved in this attack. what was it about him? he was an extremely glibbed spokesman for jihad. he sounds like you and me, american accent. he spoke to people, particularly young people, and you know five years after he was killed by u.s. drone, his voice lives on. it's out there. they got them on computers and cell phones and listen. >> the anniversary of his death is when? >> september 30. may ibe significant. maybe this was in revenge. an unarmed black man is shot to death by police, this time, the whole thing caught on camera, now one of the presidential candidates is weighing in on it. ut there. no one surface... no one speed...
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