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same reason. police there releasing video, however, no video yet in the charlotte situation. the man that you see on your screen in white, apparently, unarmed, hands over his head keeps making his way back towards his vehicle. why and why did the police have to use deadly force? we have it all covered. let's begin with brynn gingras on the breaking news out of charlotte. >> those dozen police officers hurt and several protesters were injured that unfolded on charlotte streets overnight. that anger spurred by the shooting death of keith lamont scott. the family says the father of seven was not and he was just in his car reading. overnight, violent protests erupting on the streets of charlotte, north carolina. >> hold the police accountable for what they do. >> reporter: several hundred protesters blocking a major highway, looting trucks and setting fire to some of their cargo.
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officers in riot gear deploying tear gas, setting off flash. throwing water bottles and rocks at the officer os, injuring at least a dozen. protesters moving to a local walmart. video shows them attempting to break in, but running when s.w.a.t teams arrive. >> the citizens have a legitimate concern and their concern shouldn't be taken lightly. >> reporter: the clashes breaking out following the fatal shooting of a black man, keith l lamont scott. they arrived at a complex to serve another individual when they encountered scott who they say was armed. >> make some imminent threat to them and because of that at least one officer fired rounds at the suspect. >> reporter: the officer that shot scott is also a black male, according to local reports, now placed on administrative leave.
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but protesters are out in full force, questioning when will black lives truly matter? >> a terrorist, new jersey, new york, he was taken alive. they say they wanted to question him. so because of you wanting to question him, does his life mean more than our black men across the nation? >> a lot of frustration. the charlotte's mayor promising a full investigation into what happened at that apartment complex. the investigation, though, just beginning and we expect to learn more at a news contrance lafere this morning. charlotte's mayor calling for calm. >> protesters also taking to the street in tulsa, oklahoma, after police released video of a deadly police shooting of an unarmed black man. hundreds gathering in front of the police headquarters there last night. they're calling for the firing of the officer who killed terence crutcher, a 40-year-old father of four. ana cabrera is live in tulsa with more.
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ana? >> chris, protesters here want to see the officer involved arrested. now, that depends on the outcome of the local police criminal investigation, but there is also a separate civil rights investigation into this case. the department of justice opening its investigation after seeing the video of what happened. police video shows the moments before 40-year-old terence crutcher is shot and killed by a tulsa police officer. from this dash cam video and a police chopper -- >> he's got his hands up for us now. >> reporter: you can see crutcher with his hands up. tulsa police officer betty shelby follows with her gun drawn as crutcher steps back from his suv in the middle of the road. three other officers respond, standing between crutcher and the dash cam video. but in the helicopter video, it appears crutcher drops at least one of his hands when he gets to his vehicle. but you don't see what crutcher
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is doing as he is shot. the helicopter is circling around at that moment. >> that looks like a bad dude, too. >> reporter: crutcher falls to the ground. >> just been tasered. >> shots fired. >> reporter: shot and tased. >> there was no gun on the suspect or in the suspect's vehicle. >> reporter: shelby's attorney said she didn't know that. crutcher was not responding to shelby's questions and ignored multiple commands. police now say the drug pcp was found inside of crutcher's car. attorneys for the crutcher family say they're looking into that, but say no matter what, police mishandled this situation. did him being a big black man play a role in her perceived danger? >> no, him being a large man perceived a role of her being in danger. she worked in this part of town for quite some time. and, you know, just the week before she was at an all-black
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high school homecoming football game. she's not afraid of black people. >> reporter: shelby is now on paid administrative leave. while police and shelby's attorney said crutcher was reaching in the window of the car when she fired, video of the incident appears to show the driver's window is closed. >> that looks like a bad dude, too. >> that big, bad dude was my twin brother. that big, bad dude was a father. that big, bad dude was a son. that big, bad dude was enrolled at tulsa community college. just wanting to make us proud. >> now, the family is calling for police accountability in this case. we're also seeing a swell on social media joining the call for police officers to be held accountable nationwide with everybody from politicians to sports stars weighing in on this issue using the
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#terencecrutcher. the local police chief jordan vowing to have a transparent and very thorough investigation saying, "we will achieve justice, period." chris, alyison. >> thank you for all that reporting. joining us now terence crutcher's family. also with us is their attorneys benjamin krupp and ben simmons. we're so sorry for your loss. mrs. crutcher, have you watched the video of what happened to your son? >> once. >> what do you see in that video? >> i see terence walking toward his suv with his hands raised high over his body and then all of a sudden he falls to the ground. >> yeah.
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>> we can imagine how painful it is to be watching those moments. reverend crutcher, how do you explain what you see in that video? >> the video was released, i think, on sunday and the first time i was able to watch it was on monday. and i lost it. it's the most devastating thing that has ever happened to me in my life. >> of course. >> mr. krupp, the police say that terence. they believe terence was reaching for something in the car when they shot him. i know you have said that you can prove that's not true. in fact, at a press conference, you held up a photo that you say showed he couldn't be reaching for something. watch this moment. >> it is very clear even when we just try to bring attention to simply the window. you can see that it is
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completely up and there is blood going almost to the top of the window. >> so, mr. krupp, you think that that evidence shows that the window was up. he couldn't have been reaching for anything. the police say he wasn't following their commands. what do you think was going on in those final moments? >> i think the police are trying to figure out a way to justify blaming terence crutcher for his own death, alyison. when you look at that video, don't take our word for it. you can slow it down. we have technical experts that can enhance the video. and it clearly shows and i'm sorry for this, but there is a streak of blood coming down from the window, coming down on the car and then coming to where his body is resting with his hands up still and it shows that it all is contemporaneous. look at that video. all the evidence we need. we need not to consider anything else but all our eyes show us. >> tiffany, you and terence are
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twins. we're watching aerial footage right here of police in a helicopter who were over the scene and there are snippets of audio of that chopper pilot and the other officer. and i just want to play a second of that for you and for our viewers of what they were saying. >> he's got his hands up for us n n now. there's more. >> i'm going to have to record it. this guy's still walking and following commands. >> time for taser, i think. >> that's about to happen. >> it looks like a bad dude, too. >> tiffany, when he says that looks like a bad dude, too. what do you see and hear? >> i hear someone who is paid to protect and serve us prejudging
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my brother. he didn't know my brother at all. and i have so many friends who are officers of the law and they stand with us and they say that's not representation of who our public servants are supposed to be. and it just validates what we've been angry about. what we've been confused about. what we have been heard about. >> he looks like a bad dude. what does that say to you? >> it says anyone that is big in statue stat statueer they criminalize or demonize or say, hey, we're going to get you. i mean, i'm really sad and i have friends who have young boys and they're afraid to go to driver's ed. they don't want driver's license and they're afraid and that saddens me. >> you want them to know that your brother was not a bad dude. he was a father and a brother
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and a son. >> he was all of that. last night i think love and support from people all around the world from all different backgrounds, all different cultures and one that really broke me down and really touched my heart was one of his professors at tulsa community college tterence was in his clas last fall and he never missed a class and just talked about his children and his last report was on christianity and i lost it. that big, bad dude mattered. >> and yet, mr. krupp, police say he wasn't following their instructions. maybe they told him to stop or get down. they said that's what caused them concern. to either of you that he wasn't following instructions.
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police would have said, get down, don't go to your car. why didn't he follow instructions? >> we don't know what was said because no audio. but we have a video that does not have a yrterrier motive. terence has his hands up in the air and moving in a very slow and deliberate manner. we see very clearly on the video that terence never made a sudden movement towards the officers or on the side of the video. when he was shot, the officers were not in any imminent harm. >> it was broad daylight and no justification for this use of excessive force. >> the police say that they found the drug pcp inside the car. do you believe them? >> we don't know what they found in the car. we will take it at their word because they got all the
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quote/unquote evidence in their custody. they say they're going to be transparent. this is an opportunity for the leadership to be transparent so they can build a trust with this tulsa community that could be an example for communities all over america, alyison. we saw what happened in charlotte and to tamir rice in cleveland. when you're not transparent and the community feel they cannot trust you, then we have terrible things that happen in our communities. >> would that change the equation for you if there were pcp in the car and if that meant that somehow he was debilitated by having taken the drug somehow. >> alyison, you look in that video and nothing in that video justify them using excessive legal force on them. if we're going to start declaring the death sentence to anybody that has drugs in their system, they're going to go to a lot of communities. not just our communities.
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>> tiffany, you and your brother, you're twins, as i said. you just celebrated your 40th birthday a month ago and on that day he told you that he was looking forward to the future and what his plans were. >> yes. he told me he was excited about the future. excited about starting school. i have a final text message, the very last one where he told me that he loved me. i told him that i loved him and he said, god is going to get the glory out of my life in that text message. and we're a family of faith and we know that all things work together for the good. if any good comes out of this, if any good could come out of this, we're hoping that a miracle will open their eyes. everybody and see that there is an issue. a systemic issue that needs to be solved and we're pleading with the leadership of this country. everyone to just see that and let's put some systems in place
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to prevent this from happening, again. >> yet, reverend crutcher, you wake up this morning and there are protests in charlotte, north carolina, because there's been another incident, not the same, this man police say did have a gun, but he was sitting in his car. these are the protests you're waking up to this morning of another incident. what are your thoughts when you see this continuing to happen? >> it's adjust continuation of the same thing. over and over and over again. and it's perpetuated against people of color more than anything else. if it would have been in the reverse caucasian totally different because records that indicate and show that this situation wouldn't have happened if that would have been a caucasian. and if the circumstances were in reverse, terence would have been charged immediately. >> mrs. crutcher, how are
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terence's kids doing? >> well, they are doing the best that they can do at this present time. what's breaking my heart is that his youngest son, we call him little terence asked me the day before yesterday, where's my dad? because he hadn't seen him, you know, in a couple of days. in his mind, he's wondering what's going on. so, we told him because we are people of faith that dad went to heaven. and that kind of satisfied him for the moment. because he knows dad is in a good place. >> hillary clinton talked about your case. she called it intolerable to see something like this. what do you think that this is now a national conversation about what happened to your son? >> well, it should be talked
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about. people should be discussing it. and we need to come to some type of way of making this right. getting justice, for not only terence but for all those killings across our country. >> mr. crump, we have talked to you, sadly, too many times about cases like this. you've covered and have been involved in many of them. why is this one making you so emotional? >> it's very, very hard to watch that video, alyison. anybody in america with a heart who watches that video knows that this causes tension in your soul. and what dr. king said is that peace is not the absence of tension, it's the presence of justice. so for what happened in cleveland, what happened in stanford and what happened in staten island, all these things that were on video, let's make sure we have justice here to heal this country. this is on video. there is no looking away from
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this. there's no trying to blame the victim in this particular case because we silt with our eyes, alyison. >> our thoughts with all of you. thank you for coming in and sharing your painful story so we can continue this conversation. we appreciate you being here on "new day." >> thank you. we'll hear from the other side and hear from the attorney for the officer who pulled terence crutcher over. we'll be right back. i was out here smoking instead of being there for my son's winning shot.
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supposed to be a routine traffic stop, in this case, his car had broken down. he was actually looking for help and in the space of just a few minutes, he's killed. >> that's right, alyison. this is, sadly, another chapter in what has been a whole series of tragic shootings that, i think, the african-american community and americans concerned about justice find unacceptable. and where hearings we held on the judiciary committee and actions that the justice department has taken has not yet made a significant difference. this is a question and no small part about police training and policies and how deadly force is used. i've been here in new york to the united nations meetings. it was striking how quickly and how well the fbi expedited rahami's bomb attacks and one of
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the most painful things i heard was he was taken in for custody. how come when someone like terence crutcher end up dead. >> that is an interesting lens to look at it. from the police perspective, if someone is not following commands. they said they found pcp in his car. which may contribute somehow to his not following commands. what are police supposed to do in that situation? >> one of our challenges nationally is to put this in perspective. 3 million people in law enforcement across the country. the percentage of law enforcement officers who are involved in the use of deadly force is a very, very small percentage and the percentage of those cases that end up on national news after a tragedy is exceptionally small. if you don't have good training and if we don't have thorough and transparent investigations and there isn't justice in cases that turn out to have been bad shootings where officers made a tragic mistake, then the trust that the african-american
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community and our country is understandably justifiably eroded. >> a failure not to take the next step and that's pretty obvious. often the federal government gets a pass on this because policing is a state and local issue. but, that's not entirely true. there is no national database of accounting for these kinds of shootings. >> that's right. >> with all the things that the federal government decides to stick its nose into which is arguably irrelevant, if not redundant. this, who is stopping the federal government from coming together and having a national database just to track the shootings? >> right. i'm a co-sponsor of legislation that would create just such a database. >> whais stoppio is stopping it? >> responsible changes in terms of background checks and studies and accountability around deadly use of force or around the impact that handguns have in american life. >> why group them altogether? the gun issue is too politically
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charged. you guys ara s ars aran s arare together on them. just to count them, just to count them. don't muddy it up with anything else. when one of these things happen, we mark it down. so, we can look at it year over year. who is getting shot? why are they getting shot? you know, how many and how many different places. why can't you just get that done? >> chris, i think you're well aware that there are national lobbying organizations and political leaders in the other party who have opposed bipartisan background checks, bipartisan criminal justice reform and bipartisan efforts that would strengthen the hand of the federal department of justice and its civil rights division. civil rights division has made a significant impact in contribution in municipalities in ferguson and in cases like baltimore where there were real differences and real problems between the community and the police department. earlier in my life as a county executive i was possible for a county police department and i
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was proud of our department there. we had very few problems like this. we did have one tranlic shooting where a man who was mentally ill and he advanced on a whole group of police and he was killed. and that led to my direct involvement in a very searching revision of our policies and our training around the handling of incidents involving adults. in an instance where police are -- >> although somebody is on pcp, they should be considered mentally ill. that should be part of the training of how you deal with this odd behavior and de-escalate the force without having to go to a gun. >> you could avoid having those incidents escalate to deadly force. i want to turn to the united nations general assembly and president obama's final appearance. let me play a portion of that today.
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>> today a nation -- so the answer cannot be a simple rejection of global integration. instead, we must work together to make sure the benefits of such integration are broadly shared. >> i know you were there in the room for that moment a nation ringed by walls but only imprison itself. what could he be referring to? >> he is indirectly referring to the campaign propose of donald trump to build a wall. we visited ukraine and i know the president of ukraine was seek agameting with donald trump while he was in new york meeting with the president of egypt and was rejected. in no small part what president obama delivered in a very strong speech yesterday was a call for the world to come together to address the very serious problem of refugees and a call for us to
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continue to look for peaceful solutions to some of the real challenges in the world. donald trump's statements about ukraine and putin suggest a dangerous act of invading a neighboring country and familiarity in meetings i had with heads of state in recent days in new york city. they all expressed real concern or donald trump's readiness or fitness to serve as president. >> thanks for being here with your expertise on all these issues. >> good to have you. we're learning more details about the bombing suspect in new york and those new jersey bombs, as well. what we're learning about his wife, what she might have known. his family, what they might have known. and why did he do this? next. have conquered highways, mountains, and racetracks. and now much of that same advanced technology is found in the audi a4.
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now to the investigation into the terror bombings in new york and new jersey. bombing suspect ahmad rahami charged with the use of weapons. good morning, evan.
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>> alyison, ahmad rahami is facing charges including using weapons of mass destruction and bombing of a public place. the criminal complaints are offering new insight into how the alleged bomber carried out this weekend's attacks to what may have motivated him and the potential for the bombings to be a lot worse. federal investigators say this weekend's bombings were in the works for months. according to a criminal complaint, alleged bomber ahmad khan rahami bought the materials on ebay and shipped the materials to his workplace and then just days before the attacks a video shows rahami experimenting with explosives. igniting material in a suliynn
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druical container. powerful enough to propel this 100-pound dumpster more than 1230 fe 1120 feet high. 12 fingerprints on the unexploded bomb found four blocks away ultimately leading authorities to rahami. another key piece of evidence, a hand-written journal found on rahami when he was captured in new jersey which references terrorists including anwar al alwaki and the sounds of the bombs will be heard in the streets. the complaint also references a social media account officials believe to be rahami showing the suspect favored two videos related to jihad. rahami came on the fbi redar two years ago. u.s. customs telling cnn that they notified the bureau about rahami after he returned from a trip from pakistan and
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afghanistan in 2013. the fbi investigated a tip alleging the suspect's father was calling his son a terrorist. >> why kdid you call the fbi tw years ago? >> he hit my wife and i put him in jail. >> reporter: his father ultimately retracting that accusation, leading authorities to conclude it was a domesic matter. a friend of the suspect says that rahami and his family have been at odds since he gault his girlfriend pregnant in high school. >> for him it was his father and it was just tension. it was his part, too. he should have listened more to his father. maybe, you know, stayed in school. >> reporter: according to a u.s. official, ahmad rahami's wife left the united states before the bombings. she is currently in the united arab emirates where he is cooperating. chris? >> who knew, who may have pushed
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him to do this and then the most vexing question is how are you supposed to stop someone like this? cnn chief national security and paul. jim, we collectively covered so many of these. a guy like this, unless the family or a friend who knows what he's up to comes forward, very tough to catch them. a unique challenge for the nypd. they did brilliantly in finding rahami after the fact, but it's a tough job for this new commissioner to find him before. >> no question. he was sworn in just the day after these attacks. literally, the beginning of his job. i asked him, are they still looking to see whether he had a support network? here's what james oo'ne'neil ha say yesterday. do you still believe he acted alone with these attacks and attempted attacks? >> jim, it is very early on in this investigation. as we move through this we'll determine who his acquaintances
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were, family, friends, go through social media and see if he had any phones and go through that to make a determination. >> you have two questions here. active support. did somebody give him money and help him build a bomb and then here is a guy who was lighting off explosives in the backyard. >> the family phone having video of him, paul, of him testing this? i mean, who, where is your head when you decide to take video of your brother or your sibling doing something like that. >> the question is, was he borrowing one of his family member's phones and recording himself, that is certainly possible. or another family member who was fully aware of this and was recording him and aware of perhaps what he was going to do. we don't have the answers to those. >> what aboutthe wi the wife ta off just a couple days before. >> they have not suggested to authorities that he had any knowledge of what was going to happen.
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they will certainly want to question her and find out at least about what her husband was doing in the weeks before this attack. >> now, paul has been talking about this, but i know you have been reporting about it, as welwell well. everything in terms of how he carried this out shows that he may have well been alone because, thankfully, it was done very poorly. >> right. well, listen, you can get the recipes for these bombs online. you can buy the materials, as we know, on ebay. and put them together. but, these are volatile explosives to do it. to do it well takes some work. he could have done it on his own, but, you know, as paul has reported, we haven't seen that kind of explosive yield in the u.s. in some time. so, the possibility that he did have some help, particularly when he was traveling to places in pakistan. there are known to be areas of support for the taliban, for instance. it certainly makes that credible. >> you are drawn to the explosives. you say this is different than what we saw in boston. >> absolutely.
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this was high explosive. this was significantly more powerful than the boston device. i mean, this could have been produced absolute carnage if it was let off in a crowded space in new york on a subway. thank god it appears to have been left in this heavy duty dumpster because that appear tazhatas to have contained quite a bit of the force. however, fragmentation patterns 650 feet away. this was a very powerful bomb. very, very concerning to investigators and something with the components hmtd, which he was buying the citric acid for. that is tricky to make as jim was saying. a lot of this has parallels to the guy who tries to bomb times square in 2010. he was someone with a very similar travel pattern to pakistan. in the end it turned out he had been trained by the pakistani taliban and launch a direct
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attack. we have to see if there was not connection with a terrorist group. >> now, something the audience doesn't get to hear that often but is very true. a big reason law enforcement in this country is able to stop things is because of the muslim community. they reach out and they do talk. excellence of america that we are all together transcending religion and race matters here. and that's pretty much their best tool with someone like this, jimmy. unless he's actively talking with bad guys, how are you going to know? the fbi is flooded with tips about guys like this. >> i hear that so often. they depend on these communities. right. if you see something, say something. that's everyone's responsibility, but, of course, the people closest to the potential, you know, terrorists who are most valuable and you don't want to antagonize them. you don't want to create the impression that everybody is a suspect because you need their help. keep in mind here his dad, two years ago, did talk to the authorities about possible terror. >> shaky circumstances. he like stabbed his brother or
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something and the father was angry about that. >> he later recanted. you did have some contact there. >> jim and paul, thank you very much. appreciate it, as always. alyison? a high-power bank ceo smacks down at a congressional hearing. >> you should resign. you should give back the money that you took while this scam was going on. and you should be criminally investigated. >> that is senator elizabeth warren ripping into the head of wells fargo. what exactly was she talking about? that's next. [ "on the road again," by willie nelson ] ♪ on the road again
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here's a taste. >> have you returned one nickel of the millions of dollars that you were paid while this scam was going on? >> the board will take care of that. >> have you returned one nickel of the money you earned while this scam was going on? >> and the board will do -- >> i will take that as a no then. you haven't resigned. you haven't returned a single nickel of your personal earnings and you haven't fired a single senior executive. instead, evidently, your definition of accountable is to push the blame to your low-level employees who don't have the money for a fancy pr firm to defend themselves. it's gutless leadership. and when it all blew up, you kept your job, you kept your multi-million dollar bonuses and you went on television to blame thousands of $12 an hour employees who were just trying to meet cross sale quotas that made you rich. this is about accountability. you should resign.
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you should give back the money that you took while this scam was going on. and you should be criminally investigated by both the department of justice and the securities and exchange commission. >> joining us now is senator brown a democrat from ohio and the ranking member on the senate banking committee. >> my name is sharon. >> so, let's talk about what this was about up there on capitol hill. what is the goal of what we saw senator warren there embodying there in terms of outrage? what do you want here? >> the first goal is that the customers be made whole. the guy that is doing the camera work today where i am at the capital is one of those customers who got an unauthorized account. we hear it all over the place. they need to make one of those
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customers whole, including if it affected their credit rating. they need to claw back the $102 million going away package that he got from wells fargo and she was in charge of this unit. and third, they need to do something about the huge contrast in wages. 90% of the people who were fired were nonmanaging people they were personal bankers making $35,000 or $40,000 or less. tellers making $12, $13 an hour while bank executives benefited from that. the low-level workers are the ones that took the heat and lost jobs. i mean low wage workers just resigned. they walked away because they didn't want to be victimized by the high-pressure tactics and sort of forced into committing what may have been illegal acts. >> in the interest of precision, why should people have any faith in your ability to make anything happen here? when you sent no one to jail for
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the huge financial scandal that launched a 2008 depression. senator warren was born out of that scandal. i know because i went to her when we we, that was her introduction to politics our official adviser on abc news. why would the people believe you get any accountability now? >> well, that's a very good question, chris. some people should go to jail. the department of justice should be more aggressive, no question about that. mr. clark whawas there,as there. the more light we shine on them, the more likely that is to happen. i'm not a prosecutor, i'm not in a position to do that. i look at what's happened and the people on top have shown little contrition. have had few wage claw backs and they keep going. that was the point of this
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hearing. we're going to continue this, especially if i'm chairman of this committee if the democrats take the senate next year. we will continue shining the spot on hoping the justice department and local prosecutors to do more than they've done. >> again, the confidence in that. look at what's happening in this election. you have donald trump who has no business by political standards being where he is right now. but for his ability to harness the anger of hard-working people towards people in government like you, that the bankers win. sure, they'll get an angry slap on the wrist, but that guy isn't going anywhere. no confidence that there will be real change because in 2008 you had the worst actions by so many different banks on so many different levels and nobody went away. and the people blame you guys for the lack of accountability and it's driving why hillary clinton is in the fight of her life right now. >> i don't disagree with any of that. i take a back seat to nobody and stand up to wall street. i mean, they spent, they spent
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$40 million to defeat me in 2012. i understand what they do and how they play hard ball. i also, and my wife and i live in zip code country. i know people who have been foreclosed on, i'm in that neighborhood. you could see the anger that a lot of us felt yesterday towards the kind of abuse that these wall street executives have gotten away with and we're going to keep coming down hard on them until they are either -- their resignations, claw backs and also eventually -- and i'm not saying in this case. i don't know if there should be criminal indictments in this case, but there need to be -- the justice department needs to be more aggressive than it has been. >> but the laws of the department of justice acts on comes from lawmakers like yourself. what are you going to change? >> well, first of all, you beat back what the republicans in the house are doing as this as the
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consumer bureau levied their record $100 million fine, last week the house financial services committee in a party line vote republican leadership passed a bill to undermine the cfpb. so we're playing defense with this republican party in congress who has suffered from collective amnesia as if there was never a bank crisis and some of them are in the tank with the big bankers and wall street. i'm the author of the original bill to break up the big banks back in 2009. it was beaten back with two -- got only two republican votes, some of my democrats went south on it, too. as i said, i take a back seat to nobody on this and i'm going to continue to be aggressive and this congress is -- you know, you look at the koch brothers spending hundreds of millions of dollars to elect pro tobacco, pro nra, pro wall street senators. "the new york times" came out saying that republicans are now
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slightly favored to hold the senate because of that big money. so that's where the target should be, the anger should be directed, at this big money, including wall street money, including money from some of these big bankers, these ceos that are making 15 or $20 million a year. >> that's part of the criticism of hillary clinton as well that she has taken that campaign money. >> well, hillary clinton, she has a much better plan than donald trump on wall street. he's thrown in with this group that wants to deregulate. he will take us back to the bush days. hillary has to step forward on this. i think it makes a lot of sense. that's why people like elizabeth warren and bernie sanders and i support her. >> she's taking the money that's why it raises suspicion. thank you for the conversation. thanks for being with us. it looks like a fight to the finish in the phillies suburbs. we will take a look at the critical swing state of pennsylvania. what do voters there think about
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that's liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance. 48 days to go until election day. all this week we're giving you a ground level look at the race in crucial battle ground states. so today is pennsylvania. where recent polling has hillary clinton in the lead but the state still very much in play for donald trump. cnn's national correspondent miguel marquez is live in philadelphia with more. >> reporter: good morning,
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alisyn. while she is up in the polls her campaign is taking exactly zero chances in pennsylvania. she has opened up 55 offices in the state this week, the latest one this week 55 in total, hundreds of campaign workers, they have a massive data driven campaign to get the vote out and while it's tough for any republican to win in a blue state like pennsylvania apparently donald trump has decided that the keystone state is a must win. >> i'm expecting a huge turn out in november and we are going to have donald trump and we are going to make america great again. thank you. >> reporter: pennsylvania republicans counting on enthusiasm. >> you want to knock on that door i will knock on 722. >> reporter: in an uphill battle to turn this blue collar state red in november. >> it wasn't won by republicans for the last few presidential elections. we think trump is going to win this state. >> are you going to vote for donald trump? >> probably. it's the only choice.
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>> reporter: the last time pennsylvania went republican 1988. the latest poll shows clinton ahead in the states but with exceptionally tight races in ohio and florida, republicans here sense momentum. >> if donald trump wins pennsylvania -- >> he wins the presidency. here is why, pennsylvania is more democratic than both florida and ohio. >> reporter: if he wins here he wins there. trump running strong in rural pennsylvania, but needs support in vote rich philadelphia and its suburbs where a third of the state's voters live. >> you cannot lose the philadelphia suburbs. not only are we talking about a large number of votes, but we are talking about the largest pool of swing voters. >> child care is such a big problem. >> reporter: trump announced his child care initiative appealing to swing voters, women and moderates in those philly suburbs. >> we are going to solve that problem. >> reporter: he and his running
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mate, michaela pereike pence ha been to the state nine times. democrats, too, have descended on the keystone state fighting to keep its 20 electoral votes in their column. >> let's go out. >> reporter: clinton and tim kaine have been here 11 times and that's not including the democratic convention held here in july. in her most powerful surrogate president obama made his first solo campaign event on behalf of clinton right here in philly. >> i need you to work as hard for hillary as you did for me. >> thank you all so much for coming to help out. >> reporter: voter registration in july and august ahead of 2008, a banner year. so far this year democrats have registered 418,000 new voters to republicans 321,000. for both candidates turn out critical. >> if i'm not white house young people will always have a seat at any table where any decision
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is being made. >> reporter: clinton seeking support from younger voters, many still burned out from a primary in which their guy didn't win. jordan was a bernie sanders delegate, like many she says fear of a trump presidency is a bigger motivation than love for clinton. >> it's not an election that it's okay to sit out, you know, you can't protest votes aren't going to do much this election. it's too risky. >> it's our job to talk to them about why they feel that way and hopefully change that into positive energy. >> how do we make the economy work for everyone? >> reporter: and the ad wars have finally come to pennsylvania. clinton has spent nearly $12 million in the state, her latest ad focused on jobs and the economy. >> donald trump's america is secure. >> reporter: donald trump after spending zero through august on tv advertising has spent nearly $3 million on ads focusing on
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immigration and security. voter registration here ends october 11th with no early voting in pennsylvania it will be a race to election day. >> reporter: now, a big issue for both trump and clinton will be enthusiasm at the polls. a guru of pennsylvania politics says his polling shows many voters are motivated more by fear of the other candidate rather than love for their own. >> you are in the right place at the right time. thank you for the report. we're following breaking news, another deadly police shooting. let's get into it. >> good morning. welcome to your new day, we begin with breaking news. violent protests erupting in charlotte, north carolina, after police shoot and kill a black man that they say had a gun. demonstrators taking to the highway turned into riots in many places,


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