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11 p.m. and we are following breaking news in charlotte, north carolina. for the second night protesters have clashed violently with police. the crowds are starting to clear the streets now, but the situation is still ongoing. one person has been shot. critically wounded during these demonstrations. police say the victim was shot by another civilian, not by police. four officers have also been hurt. the protests were sparked by the police shooting of an african-american man on tuesday. let's bring in boris sanchez, who is live in charlotte. he is on the line. i see it's ronnie karaoke who was on the scene a short time ago. he heard the national guard is moving in. tell us what you have seen over the past few hours. >> thanks for having me on. i saw like a lot of stuff going down uptown in charlotte. thirst off, there was four
gigantic lines of police officers and riot uniforms creating human barricades to keep people from getting into this i think they had a safe zone going on. everywhere you went, there was broken fwlas, people protesting, even protesters protesting other protesters. like people against what -- you know, what some of the other people were trying to say. and all aren't it was just kind of hectic. no matter where you went, like you go down a couple of blocks and it's just the same thing over and over again. it was really wild out there tonight. >> can you put your finger -- can you point the one thing that may have triggered the violence? >> i would definitely say it was due to the death of keith scott yesterday. he was -- last night was actually much worse than tonight. but i'd say that was definitely the catalyst that started everything that's going on tonight.
definitely, for the most part, people were kind of angry towards police tonight, i could see. and they even started throwing things. some people started throwing water bottles at police officers. and that was met with tear gas and rubber bullets that they shot back. luckily, i wasn't hit by anything. me and my friend were down there. but we left pretty, pretty okay. but, yeah, there was definitely some people like really up in the officers' faces getting really kind of belligerent. >> and how would you describe the reaction by the police when the protesters, as you say, were up in their face? >> it was very, very calm, very cool. like i said, they only ever retaliated when they were like, you know, like attacked first. other than that, i even talked to one of the officers. i asked him how he was doing. he said that he was just trying to do his job. didn't want to be out there but you know, he had to be out
there. i don't know. it really wasn't -- it really wasn't much that they were doing against anyone out there. it was more of like trying to keep everyone under control. trying to make sure like no one -- no one is getting too wild out there tonight. >> okay. so i understand you are back on campus right now? have you been talking to any of your friends, anyone there? what has everyone been saying about the violent protests? >> yeah. i got back a couple -- about an hour ago. and the first thing people said to me because like why were you out there in the first place? it's crazy out there. but it wasn't as bad as i thought it would be. most people were just concerned about -- there was apparently a shooting tonight. someone was killed by another civilian. or haeb not killed. but i think they are like in intensive care right now. and that was the main concern people had tonight. when i got back on campus, yeah, mostly people just wondering about the shooting.
and about how the officers are treating the rest of us out there. just you know, trying to watch, see what was going down. >> how quickly would you say the peaceful protesters left the scene leaving behind the demonstrators who were looting the buildings and carrying to the violent act? >> their actually in two separate locates. where i was it was mostly peaceful. the majority of people there were holding signs. and some were singing. some were praying. of course there are always outliars that want to cause trouble fl that's what led to like the tear gas and stuff. but the looters, i'd say, were like further down the street. they are usually like in small groups on their own. i saw a man like break a bus window for seemingly no reason. yeah. they weren't exactly going down
hand in hand but they were definitely like a good walking distance away from where the peaceful stuff was going on. >> we'll leave it there. he was on the streets for a few hours there witnessing the violence firsthand. appreciate you calling in. thank you. let's go to boris sanchez now. he has been covering this violent protest since it again about eight hours ago now. boris we have been keeping a close eye on the street corner where you are. it seems the riot please have been moving in to try to clear out the last of the dhon straightors? >> reporter:. that's right. we are looking at some of the last demonstrators. by my count, there is about nine of them across the street from us. as i'm saying that, several are leaving. a handful of them left a few moments ago and had choice words for the officers behind me brocking off this street. down there, you still can see riot police down this street.
they push us off a short while ago asking us to get out of there. there were others on that street. i'm not sure where they are now. it's dying down not just in numbers, and also in intensity. it was truly a rough night for the city of charlotte. what dwan as a very dramatic emotional dialogue outside of a police station eventually evolved into ugliness and people being very krufl to each other. i saw several camera crews, several reporters threatening. one of them assaulted. one of them, my colleague ed lavendera was pushed to the ground by a protester. i saw people picking thing up and throwing them at police as they were being arrested. there were at least four police officers injured tonight and a civilian that was badly badly hurt that was right outside the omni hotel where things really hit a tipping point and rapidly descended into chaos from there. these s.w.a.t. team officers went inside a hotel.
and outside these protesters tried to follow them in. they started banging on the glass. officers came out. that confrontation there was when we saw the tear gas being used and people becoming physical. there were actually quite a few people that locked armed between the protester and the police urging for peace. at one point the protesters started snatching those people away and broke that chap. and things escalated very quickly from there. that's the moment when there was a loud bang in front of us. moments later there was a man on the floor. there were people tending to him. i spoke to one young woman shortly after that who had a video of the young man on the ground bleeding profusely. there is also misinformation. there were people reporting things on social media that turned out to be inaccurate. we got a tweet from chief of police seskcally saying that the young man that was hurt was shot
by a civilian not by a police officer. yet on the street they were saying "they killed another one of us". there is mistrust between the community and the police obviously being confronted with something cut and dry, they still wouldn't believe the chief of police when they were trying to explain the situation to them. it speaks to what we are facing, a frustrated and angry community taking out their aggression sadly on a city that from my estimation wasn't prepared for this kind of violence top. >> boris thank you for the update. boris sanchez there live in charlotte, north carolina. joining me in los angeles, steve, from a law enforcement point of view when protests escalate, from zero to violent is there usually a trigger? can you put your finger on something that may have happened. >> the trigger are usually
individuals. you can -- during some protests in seattle a few years ago they were actually using paint balls to identify to other officers the leaders in the violent part of the protest. so it's not necessarily a moment as much as it is certain individuals that turn a protest into a mob. >> i think what we've seen in a lot of these protests is there are some bad actors that travel into cities. >> they come prepared. >> they come prepared. they have an agenda. and their agenda is to be disruptive and to create this violence. as i sit here and watch the protest, what's so disheartening to me is that those people, those bad actors they step on the message of the protesters. so we are spending all of our energy and our time talking about the violence, and it doesn't leave much time to talk about the root issues, the causes and how do we get to solutions. i know it's foreign the talk
about violence, police officers have been injured, businesses destroyed. those are important thing. i don't want to minimize the importance of them. but this is happening not just because of the murder of keith scott, but this is happening because african-american men around the country -- and we've seen so many of these viral videos and so many of these shootings. so this isn't just about one shooting in one town. >> by the way, i disagree with the term murder of -- we don't know. that's jumping to conclusions. and that's what we don't want to do. i agree with her in that there are people that come in and destroy these thing, destroy peaceful protests. and i was heartened by some of the protesters locking arms trying to stop the violence there. and i think that cooler heads need to wait this out. i mean, we may disagree on a lot of things, but i think one thing we agree on is we would rather be talking about the issue, not the riot. >> areva to steve's point the investigation is just getting started. did this protest and everything else get ahead of itself?
>> let me say something about the word murder. it can be a justifiable homicide. it can still be a homicide. the question becomes whether it was justified. whether the police officer meets the standard established by the supreme court in that seminole 1985 tennessee v gardner case. whether there was a real threat of harm to the officer at the time that the shot was fired. i think as we talk about these cases we have to spend some time talking about transparency and accountability because that frustration that we see tonight and that we have seen in ferguson and baltimore and so many cities is because the communities of color don't believe that police officers are held accountable. and we don't see prosecutors prosecuting officers. we don't see officers going to jail, being held accountable when murders occur that are not justifiable. >> one of the problems, too is that there is this investigation which is ongoing, as you say, but there is also the video, the body cam or the dash cam video
which the police outright refused to release. if that backs up their case that the shooting was legally justifiable, shun they have done that, steve? >> yes, i completely agree with this. if mr. scott had a weapon and refused repeated attempts -- repeated orders, as the police say, to drop the weapon. andly that will force was used on him. then i think the police should be even quicker to -- for their own benefit, to release it. and you know, i understand what you are saying about murder. i think it's just kind of a -- you know, kind of a radioactive term. i prefer to say there was a life taken. >> i think the issue that, again, we are not able to spend a lot of time focused on is how do we get to solutions. the african-american community, communities all over this country. this isn't just a black issue. this is an american issue. i hate when you go to social media. there seems to be two camps, pro
police officers, and pro the victims. if we are going solve this problem we have to come together as americans. >> you can be both. you can be pro police and pro victims. >> should the federal attorney general get involved in this? >> i think independent investigations of these shootings in every situation is a good thing because the trust isn't there. the community doesn't trust the local law enforcement. they don't trust the policing authorities that are likely to investigate this case. and we need an accountable body. we need a body that the community has trust in in order for them to believe that we are making some progress and moving forward towards eliminating -- i don't know how many more of these videos, these shootings that we can take in this country. >> steve, i see you nodding in agreement. >> i agree not because i agree that as many shootings are non-justifiable. i recognize that a bunch are. but i think that body cams, independent investigations, that people trust by a third party
will solve a lot of this. it's not because i don't distrust personally the charlotte police department but some do. so why don't we get a third party? it's like an airliner crashes. united airlines doesn't investigate it. the ntsb does. >> okay. thanks so much for a really good discussion. we'll take a short break. when we come back, another night of violent protests in charlotte, north carolina. when we come back we'll tell you how journalists got caught up in the chaos.
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>> reporter: that's right. anderson. basically, we were following the crowd all the way down to this part of downtown. at one point people got really agitated. there were trash cans thrown from the top of the mall. then they came here. they are trying to damage these advance. so far, they have put out -- oh. they put out pepper spray. people are running from it. terry, get out of there, terry get out of there. as you can tell the situation is totally out of control. where the police line is now. you can tell from all the debris in front of me things quickly got out of control. they are still doing what they can to disperse this crowd. but it's very difficult. very difficult. he can ochl they clearly want us out of here. >> joining me now, brian claypool and shagoon otalugu.
community leaders and the family of mr. scott they spent most of the day appealing for calm, pleading for quiet and peaceful protests. why did those calls go unanswered? >> because of the frustration people feel. i agree with areva. she was just on. looks you can't watch what's going on, that violent rioting. that's not protesting. that's mob mentality. but what's the cause of it? the root cause is the frustration of yet another black person being shot by police. i don't care what color the cop s. i'm talking about the blue uniform and the fact they have not released -- listen, if there is nothing ong wrong, if the shooting was above board, release the tape. >> brian, if you are a civil rights attorney, you would want to see the tape. see it straightaway. why wouldn't the police release it to avoid this issue. >> you have got a good point f.
that tape vindicates the police department then we would seen that tape. that tells me maybe there is something thatn that tape that might create even more outrage in the city. and that's why the tape hasn't been released. >> we keep seeing protests, keep -- black men keep getting shot and we keep seeing the violent protests that follow. are people getting desensitized to all of this? >> i think. this is what bothers me. it's my 20 year high school reunion. i grew up south of mason dixon line, with black kids, spanish kids, i grew up with everybody. it's sad to think that my kids won't be able to play with everybody because we haven't progressed. 20 years ago we saw rodney king getting beat up by the dmops the streets. now it's every week. it's scary. you ask yourself, what now?
>> brian, how much of the police shootings -- i guess is it possible to know up to of this is racially motivated? how much is because of bad police training and how much is justified. >> two of the three. first two. look at the shooting in tulsa. crutcher. >> terrence crutcher. >> there is a police officer in a helicopter saying that looks like a bad guy. >> what made him bad? >> i hate to tell you, african-american. >> large black guy. >> that's why he is bad. racial profiling onis a major, major fundamental problem and it's been existing for 20, 30 year. that's the first problem. second problem, you look at all the shootings in the last six months or last two years, biggest problem is police officers were too aggressive. the most fundamental training tenet is take a position of cover when you are approaching a suspect. look at all the shooting deaths. >> the problem is if you look at the law as it stands, north carolina is an open carry state.
even if mr. scott had a gun he could have been entitled to a gun. and he didn't necessarily have to point that gun at police to lead them to believe they were in imminent danger enough to shoot them. >> the principle is what an objective police officer believes, is he or she in imminent fear. what baffles me about this story is the family says, et cetera a book. huge difference. don't you this that video would kofl the problem. >> absolutely. let's go back to the protest. when they turn violent, many peoplek is question how are they helping their cause by looting stores, jumping on cars, by causing so much damage. i want to play for you what the mayor of charlotte said to cnn a few hours ago. i thought we had that sound byte. basically, she was saying that
this is a destruction, this is a small group of people who essentially take away from what the vast majority of the protesters are trying to do, which is looking at the real issue. >> well, first of all, with all due respect to the mayor, how about you enact laws and transparency within the people that are paid to protect and serve. how about -- i mean how about we just put that right there on the table. why is it that the people that are typically shot by police look a certain way? if you don't want those people to be protesting, looting and rioting -- nobody does. it does diminish tisch cause. it makes it very difficult to justify any type of rational conversation. but let's see -- let's see our police forces and our politicians address real issues. let's forget about what side of the aisle you are on. what color you are on. let's see if we can come together and realize this is an american problem in american cities. >> 25 people shot by police in north carolina today. in charlotte, the city itself,
four of the six people who have been shot dead by police are black. is that typical for a big american city. sore there a systemic problem unique to charlotte? >> i think that's typical of cities across the uncan. you have seen it. >> doesn't it chill you though. >> typical. >> typical from a defense attorney. >> it's typical. it's not isolated to charlotte. this is a subculture that we have created within police departments nationwide. it is a mentality that police officers have. just so you know, first have a continuum of force they are supposed to follow. starts with baton. then up to mays. then maybe up to rubber bullets. >> or a i taser. >> taser. then goes to a gun. that's the last resort. it seems to be the first resort with black folks. >> this is what riles me up. you go into black barbershops, i'm hearing rational people say,
we may as well say we are terrorist. at least you will live if you are in a confrontation. i may say i'm cecil the lion because i'll get more outpouring of support than a black people in this city paying taxes. we are black men, 6 to 7% of the entire united states population. in charlotte, we are two thirds of the people shot by cops this year. that's madness. >> are you worried about going to virginia. >> i'm worried every time i walk out of the studio because when i take my jacket and tie off i'm no longer on tv. i'm just guy in the car stho there was a lady at the protests tonight. one of the cnn commentators asked her, why are you out here when you heard ten minutes ago that somebody was shot in the head. she said what are you talking
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this is cnn breaking news. >> welcome back, everybody. you are watching cnn's breaking news coverage. i'm john vause live in los angeles. it is 11:30 here. breaking news out of charlotte north carolina. a state of emergency is in effect after a second night of violent protests. four police officers have been
hurt. police say a person shot another civilian who is now on life support. protesters are furious that a police officer shot and killed an african-american man on tuesday. the family of skooet lamont scott says he was unarmed. our coned entz have been caught up in the chaos as well. ed lavendara never saw what was coming. >> they are trying to get various people, agitators out of the crowd and as other people game in to grab those people -- [ bleep ]. yeah, yeah, we're fine, anderson. we're fine. just someone taking out their fraus administration s -- frustrations on me. we'll settle down. we are going to figure out what to do here, give us a second, anderson. we'll figure it out. we'll come back to you. >> let's bring in boris sanchez
who was also caught up in the violence there in charlotte earlier tonight. right now boris, it seems the only people on the street are the riot police? >> that's right, john. it looks like the very last handful of protesters have finally left. it's past 2:30 a.m. local time. the protests started at about 6:30 last night outside a police station. things moved from there. they went over to a park where there was some peaceful demonstrations. the crowd began crowing and then when we got downtown they when things escalated and got out of hand. down this street there was a wall of s.w.a.t. team officers that were lined up pushing people out of that area. there were several dozen protesters, the last that we could find here in downtown charlotte. they were very angry. at one point, several thing were thrown at the police. several arrests were made here in just the past hour or two.
buttalier in the night it just pales in comparison to what we saw when my colleague ed lavendara was pushed down to the ground. i saw another photographer and his producer seemingly assaulted when i looked over they were on the ground. the man was clearly incapacitated. he had to be helped off the street. these protesters were extremely angry. not just going after the media or going after police. at one point even going after each other. we saw one young man that was hurt. who is in the hospital right now on life support. aside from that, there were four police officers that were also. and aside from all of that, a tremendous amount of property damage, looting and destruction. debris all over the street. several fires were set. several hotel caretakers were punched and assaulted by protesters that went inside. as of right now it appears that things have finally gotten calm once again. but the real question now is how do police officers approach this
tomorrow when you consider -- when you consider that they may install a curfew. when you consider also that initially when things got underway downtown, there simply were not enough officers to deal with the size of the crowd. as the night passed they got reinforcements and obviously their able to handle the situation. but there were some hairy moments. it will be interesting to see how the city handles this tomorrow. i would not be surprised if there was a curfew in place and there were more officers proactively downtown waiting for the potential of more crowds to show up. >> boris, just behind you, that appears to be the national guard? because the governor has declared a state of emergency and deployed the national guard. is that the situation there right now? >> that was actually not the national guard. that was a local s.w.a.t. team. it appears, again, as people have left, that they have started to wind the scene down. so we've started to see several
official vehicles move out of here. obviously, because of the incident with that civilian, because of all the destruction, this is still going to be an active crime scene. there is going to be a lot of areas much like this street that are going to be shut down as investigators move in and try to piece together what happened. i can tell you that specifically in the case of that civilian, that protester that was hurt, there were a lot of people with their cameras out. we have seen that all night. people either broadcasting live or just taking video. i gaurn tie officers are going to want to look at some of that footage to find out what happened to that young man specifically and to continue to try to find some of the agitators miami that weren't out heres peacefully, that destroyed property and threatened so many of the other people who came out here initially to demonstrate their displeasure with the justice system in a peaceful way. and not make it as ugly as it
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welcome back. the goccor of north carolina has declared a state of emergency amid violent protests in the stiff charlotte. one person is a in critical condition after being shot by another civilian. rioters threw rocks and bottles at police. at least four officers have been hurt. demonstrators smashed the windows of many buildings, including a hotel where they attacked two employees inside. the protests started on tuesday night in the wake of the police fatal shooting of an african-american man. boris sanchez our reporter on the scene spoke with a public defender who was trying to calm down the situation in charlotte. >> we can't lose any more lives, man.
i'm a public defender. can represent any more people. we don't need any more people to die. no more people being arrested. we need to take a stand and do it the right way. people are hurting. people are upset. people are frustrated. and people need leaders. i'm not trying to be that leader. but i'm trying to prevent people from being hurt. and the police shootings are playing a big role in the u.s. presidential campaign. during a town hall on wednesday donald trump was asked how he would handle violence in the black community. he said he would bring back a controversy policy known as stop and frisk. >> i would do stop and iske from. i think you have to. we did it in new york. i think it worked incredibly well. and you have to be proactive. and you know, you really help people sort of change their mind automatically. you understand. you have to have -- in my opinion, i see what's going on
here, what's going on in chicago. i think stop and frisk n. new york city, it was incredible the way it worked. >> hillary
clinton had a much more restrained response. >> there is still much we don't know about what happened in both incidents. but we do know that we have two more names to add to a list of african-americans killed by police officers. we are safer when communities transport police and police respect communities. >> joining me now, jasmine kanak and luis alvarado. thank you for being with us. we haven't heard from donald trump or hillary clinton specifically about the violence that happened the last couple of hours in charlotte. is that surprising? should we have heard something or not? >> it's surprising because now we see a more controlled donald trump where a few months ago we
would have seen a twitter attack somehow. a misstep somewhere. and i think
he has become more disciplined as it gets closer to the election. >> jasmine, should we have heard from them by now? >> maybe someone took donald trump's cell phone. maybe he antihasn't been able to tweet. i thought i saw one or two tweets about them being safe or cool. i'll sure we will hear from them tomorrow. >> i think they have to. the situation has brought it to the forefront. i'm sure both candidates didn't want to deal with this situation. they probably had messages they wanted to push out. and this is going to bring the message back to what's happening in our hometowns. >> because they have been talking about violence and police shootings of african-american. >> they have. >> they did it earlier in the day. donald trump talked about the victim in tulsa. he said he seemed like a good guy. he actually questioned the actions of the police officer. this is what he said. >> hands up -- he was doing everything he was supposed to do. >> i saw it, yeah.
>> everything. and a young policeman shot this man. i don't -- i don't get it. you can come -- i don't care where you are coming from, there was something really bad going on. >> you saw it, he had his hands up. >> i don't know if she choked. he was walking, his hands were high. he was walking to the car. he put the hands on the car. now maybe she choked. something really bad happened. >> jasmine, that seems to be a very different donald trump, too, from what we've seen the last couple of months. how do you explain the change? >> hey, we are all moved by what we saw in terms of the video of the tulsa shooting. so i definitely understand that. but i -- when it comes from donald trump, i don't take it too seriously because not too long after that he talked about wanting to make stop and frisk a national policy. i'm confused because this is how -- when you look at tulsa. when you look at other shootings, stop and frisk, you know, play as role in all of that as well.
>> i want to talk about stop and frisk. because this was you know a practice carried out by the nypd. new york police. it was hated by the african-american community. it was ruled unconstitutional by a court. >> yes, it was. >> it's said trump's calling for it is ignorant of history. how does this fit in with the outreach to the african-american community? >> i think the african-american community will see it as insincere. i have no doubt, as the brown community the latina community. there is two things here at play. it comes with style, donald trump and he is trying to present his policies. when you listen to him talk, he sounds like a comment at a timer at a corner presentation, not a presidential candidate. and second what he is actually second brings in question how his thought process works when he is going to put a policy
together. what he is telling me is he talked to rudy giuliani and this is what they agreed was going to be what the nation really needed. that's not -- we need someone who has more thoughtfulness when it comes to policies going to affect us. >> donald trump has been in a bit of a bind from what he said in the fast and what he is saying now. when you look at his website there is nothing on the website about reforming police practices. and he talked about in the past that the police need to be tougher, crack down, crack heads. >> couple of things. one, donald trump has never been big on substance. he talks a big talk. but he doesn't really have a lot to back it up. two, donald trump needs to take several seats, okay, because when you talk about -- when you talk about wanting to outreach to black folks and african-american voters and in the same breath say that you want to bring back stop and frisk, something that was found unconstitutional, the only thing i can hope that he says next is that he also wants to bring back
slavery so i can make sure that all of my people do not vote for him. >> the good thing from my side is there are great republican elected officials are actually are doing a great job and have separated themselves from the donald trump candidacy. and they are going to be judged differently than donald trump is being judged. >> on the other side we have hillary clinton. she called the police shootings of these two african-american men. she said it's unbearable. but she didn't explicitly go out and blame the police for what happened. listen to this. >> every day, police officers across our country are serving with extraordinary courage, honor, and skill. we saw that again this weekend in new york and nuew jersey and minnesota. our police handled those terrorist attacks exactly right. and they likely saved a lot of lives. >> so, lewiuis, again a shift i
her position especially when you compare it to the democratic national convention weeks ago. blatant politicking. >> there is a third element no one has discussed. it's not just about the police. but the police unions and how much they play a role in just the same way teachers' unions play a role. when a person of trust seems to blatant levi late that trust, yet there is a mechanism that protects them from any type of retribution or being removed from that position. so the union system is what is also needs to be considered here. are they being effective? are they part of the problem or are they a solution to actual three finding common ground for all of us to find peace. >> jasmine, last word on hillary clinton's new policy position, if you like?
>> new policy position. look, i was pleased with what hillary said. i wouldn't expect anything different from her. i actually do agree with her. there are thousands of officers that do their jobs and do their jobs well every single day. it's unfortunate that once again in america we have a week where we have two shootings and next week what are we going to have? >> i think everybody agrees there are thousands and thousands of police officers who are doing a very good job in very dangerous circumstances. >> yes. >> god speed to everybody. >> thanks for being with us. >> thank you. >> take a short break. a police shooting triggered violent protests. a state of emergency. we'll be back with the latest from charlotte, north carolina, in just a moment. ♪ (humming) ♪ so you're up at dawn, ♪ k, , look alive. ♪ you've been saving for a big man-cave. ♪
person shot by another civilian is now on life support. >> cnn has been following this story from the start of peaceful protests to the moments when they turned violent. >> why can you as a captain hold this officer accountable? >> it started as a peaceful protest outside the police department. things were somewhat tense. there were conversations being had. at this point people are kicking the tear gas at the police officers who are sending it right back. >> reporter: they started shooting tear gas. the crowd of people broke up. and we are running from the scene. so there were agitators getting
pulled in by police, and a couple people started sitting down. police grabbed one. that's when everything went out of control. >> we're trying to get various people agitators out of the crowd, and other people came in to try to grab the people. [ yelling ] >> yeah. we're fine, anderson. just taken out their frustrations on me. >> they're throwing tear gas at you and me. that's what happened earlier. why did you get tear gas? why did i? if we responded in a way that was frustrated and upset telling america this is enough, it
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this is cnn. breaking news. a very warm welcome to our viewers here in the united states and all around the world. i'm rosemary church. at cnn world head quarters in atlanta. you're watching our breaking news coverage of the violent protests that have followed the shooting of a black man in charlotte, north carolina. for a second night in a row demonstrators clash with police and it went on for hours. at this point the crowds have cleared out, but the protest area is being