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going to be parking cars and he ensures a bigger audience. >> phil donahue, so nice to meet you, so nice to have you on. >> my pleasure, thank you. >> we'll be watching monday night. >> pleasure. top of the hour, 3:00 p.m. eastern, i'm poppy harlow in for my friend brooke baldwin. we're back with the latest out of north carolina where two very different stories are emerging about the death of keith lamont scott. his family will be speaking soon and we'll bring it live as soon as it begins. right now, a major mesh city is under a state of emergency, violence erupting in the state of north carolina, the city of charlotte, after the shooting death of a black man by a police office officer. >> for roughly seven hours into the morning police in riot gear
fired tear gas to disperse crowds of protesters and vandals in the city's uptown district. they looted and 1345sh esmashed dos and cars. one person was shot amid the chaos, that person is in critical condition although the circumstances of the shooting are still murky, today surprising revelations from the charlotte police chief about the video of scott's death, a video the public may never get to see. let's bring in ryan young live in a protest zone in char slot. the police chief said they were going to work to show it to the scott family. we don't know when that might happen but he said basically they should see it. but he said he doesn't think the public needs to see it or should see it. why? >> well, you know, people have been talking about this constantly. as we've stood here and talked to people in this community one thing they keep saying over and over is show us the video. they believe since it exists why not show it to everyone to clear this up. especially with social media talking so loudly that the man
had a book in his hand. that is something snuck their minds. and the chief says he wants to have that special request so the family can watch the video. a lot of the people
in the community say they hope the family gets to see it in 24 hours or so. the chief said this today in the news conference. >> what i can tell you that i saw is the video does not give me absolute definitive official evidence that would confirm that a person is pointing a gun. i do not see that in the videos that i reviewed. so what i can tell you, though, is when taken in the totality of all the other evidence it support what is we've heard and the version of the truth we gave about the circumstances that happened that led to the death of mr. scott. >> so you see the police presence that still remains here
on this corner, this is near where the man was shot just last night. people were saying it was peaceful and after the shooting things turned. we talked to a woman in a bar down the way, they had to lock the door and shelter in place. they heard flash bangs and tear gas, they said they were terrified as they were evacuated out the back. in a parking garage a man was attacked by several other men, his clothes were taken until several people watching this came over and tried to get his clothes back, that man was badly bruised as he walked away. he was just someone walking down the street. take tell you everyone we've talked to says they would like to see
an open part of this investigation because that's the only way the heal willing begin. everyone waiting to see what happens next because they think with a few hours of planning this could be another long night ahead, we'll watch and see, poppy? >> ryan young, thank you very much for that. we'll see what happens when the sun goes down. meantime, attorney general
loretta lynch making an appeal for calm in charlotte speaking directly to the rioters and looters who
escalated that peaceful protest. >> i surge those responsible for bringing violence to these demonstrations to stop. because you're rundowning out the voices of commitment and change and you'rishinging in more tragedy and grief in our communities. too many times we've allow ourselves of being pulled down an easy path of pain rather than the harder path of empathy and understanding. let us choose that path. >> i want to take you to my colleague and fellow cnn anchor ashleigh ban field outside the police department in charlotte. ashleigh, you did your show live from there, what's the sense you're getting in the city and the legal line on whether or not they'll release the video? >> well, first of all, it's a beautiful day in charlotte. the typical charlotte you expect when you get here, nothing like
we saw breaking on the news last night. but we're two days into this and everyone is
on tinter hooks it could happen again tonight. here's what's so frustrating. so many people you saw in the street, though protesting peacefully, those protest iing aggressively, many want transparency, many want justice. for so many people, that might lay on the videotape that's not being released so right now we're sort of in a holding pattern, poppy, with the police department behind me holding a news conference and saying it's not going to be released. one week from now a brand new law takes in effect this state. to be real technical, it's hb-972. to be common parlance, it's a law that says it's not public record. those videos from dash cams and body cams won't be considered public record which means you, me, everybody else doesn't get the right to see that stuff. the family, however, of keith lamont scott, they will have the right to see it, see it, not
take it with them. they put in that request and the police v said they'll try to effectuate that request for them. there are a lot of people sitting in mistrust of the police and i'm not sure will help hinder the process. last night there was bun fire and a victim of gun fire and it was fairly quickly that the police came out and said the person who was shot and ended up in critical condition was shot by a protester, not by the gun of any police officers on location. that is not necessarily what everybody believes, however. pastor steve knight from the mission gathering christian church in charlotte is live with me to talk about what he witnessed. you were at the protest last night. they were peaceful. you were forming a pastors' barrier between protesters and the riot police. things started to get out of control quickly and then you
heard gunfire. take me from there. >> yeah, i was with a clergy colleague of mine. there were a group of us. we had gathered for prayer earlier in the evening knowing that there were going to be protests in the city and wanting to go out, members of the police were with us, they knew what we were doing, we were wearing yellow arm bands to signify we were with clergy, we went out into the city in groups when we heard the protests were happening in uptown, a group of us -- couple groups of us went there. initially it was peaceful, the protesters were marching, they were not engaging the police. frankly i was out the night before and the protests -- members of the protest got more violent the night before. this protest, more people in the city but it was not violent. >> that's suddenly when the gunfire was erupting. what happened next? >> we had been -- we followed
the police. they led us into this contained area of this entryway to the underground parking outside the omni hotel. it didn't need to happen that way. i was in the street further back from where the entrance was but not far away, as soon as rereached that area, tear gas, we heard the bang, i saw the body on the pavement at that point and my clergy colleague and i rushed across towards the body. protesters were surrounding the body. >> the person is in critical although it was earlier reported the person had died. so the victim was on the ground, you witnessed that? >> we saw the body on the ground. i saw two members of the fire department come out and go through the crowd to reach the
man, lift anymore the air and carry him back. >> extract him? >> yes, the people who were there were trying to administer to the man but they came through to get him and get him medical attention. >> and you are skeptical of the immediate claims that it was not a policeman's bullet that caused that? why is that? >> i am. it was such a chaotic scene, such a chaotic situation. it happened so quickly that for the police to -- as soon as we got back, we regathered at the church and we began to hear media reports the police were telling the media they have a gun it was a protester shooting another protester and it was too chaotic of a scene. we heard the police chief say yesterday morning in his press conference almost in the same breath mr. scott had a gun, we don't have all the facts, we can't say anything definitively. those things contradict themselves and for the scene that i witnessed last night,
it's a contradiction for the police to say so quickly we know what happened. >> so pastor as a witness, it's not that you're telling me forensically you're able to determine that you're suspect of the police claims, it's more culture, whatever is happening that's how you feel? >> i can tell you the crowd that was on the street immediately felt as if the shot had come from the direction of the police. that was the immediate reaction of the crowd that i was in last night. >> i'm guessing you're probably going to be activated once again tonight. if there are protests will you be out in the same role trying to provide the buffer zone between clergy and protesters and the police? >> i know some members of the clergy will go out. our church, mission gathering christian church in charlotte has opened its doors, we'll be doing a non-violent direct action training this afternoon because we want people to be trained in non-violence we'll see what happens tonight. >> quick question for you.
i have to send it back. do you think the decision by the police chief to withhold the video, dash cam, body cam, because the law doesn't go into effect until next week, do you think that will make things better or worse? >> until we have transparency, until that video is released, the community is going to distrust the official story that's being told by the police. >> pastor steve knight, appreciate you talk with us, be careful, our best goes out to you and your colleagues. so there you have it, that's the issue is that it's a transparency issue and what that does in terms of manifesting itself in crowd behavior, poppy, it could be a long night. >> that's the central question. ashleigh, thank you so much for that. coming up next, he was in the middle of that chaos last night that you heard all about, he hugged police officers. some protesters did not like that. i will speak live with this man about that confrontation next. also breaking news, yahoo! confirming 500 million accounts
as rioting and looting took over charlotte, north carolina, last night, anger at police over the death of a man at the hands of a police officer seemed to be most intense when cnn's cameras captured this moment. this man had been hugging police officers in full riot gear. some of the protesters taunted him for it. so he turned to the protesters and explained to them "the police need our compassion as well." that's what he said so later an officer came over and thanked him for that. >> i see them as human beings just like i see everybody on this side as human beings. we're all human, this uniform doesn't make him a robot. just like your skin color doesn't make you a criminal.
and that's what i need people to understand.
this man gave me a hug and he wants to fight me because of that. how does that make sense spreading more hate into the world in that's what's frustrating me, that we can't love one another? this community was burned down and destroyed because of the rodney king riots. >> i just want to thank you for what you're doing. [ [ inaudible ] ] >> that man is with me now, he is the founder of the free hugs project. he started this after the boston marathon bombings. thank you for being here and, you know, we couldn't hear what this officer said to you when he came over to you last night. he thanked you, what did he say? >> well, he came over and he let me know he's seen my work before. he saw the dallas video when i attended the dallas vigil and he
said "keep doing what you're doing, keep it up, it's important and it's making a difference." >> you were not in charlotte, by the way, i believe you were in south carolina set to give a speech and when this broke out you got in your car and drove to charlot charlotte? >> exactly, i have giving a speech on spreading more love and peace in the world at the university of south carolina and when i heard the protests were taking place i figured it's only an hour and a half, let me race out there and try to help keep the peace. >> i wonder what your perspective is. look at what broke out in charlotte last night the looting and the vandalism amid many peaceful protesters. that versus the way that a police-involved shooting of another black man in tulsa in the last week was handled. last week in tulsa you had a thousand people, black and white, coming together in peace talking about the root cause of the problem and a path forward
together as a community. why do you think two very different responses? >>. >> i think that they're -- there were probably issues on both sides, i think there was a little bit of aggression from the police officers but also the people in charlotte yesterday, i think there were a lot of young people out there and maybe, i don't know, it could have been lack of leadership, who knows? but just the community not really coming together and organizing that protest, i think it was individuals that came out and all decided well, here's how i want to lash out my anger as an individual and protests don't work like that if there's no cohesiveness. the reason why tulsa worked out, because like you said, there are divorce groups and organizations that came together and said this is how we're going to do it. so leadership must have been the
issue there. >> you said that you've been to a number of these protests and you said for the first time last night you felt scared. >> yeah, definitely. again, from both sides i wasn't sure what to expect from the riot police because i did see a number of peaceful protesters that were pepper sprayed or maced, a number of them that were arrested just from trying to keep the peace as the police officers would march forward as they wanted more of the blocks that we were standing on, they would just grab people so if i'm standing with my hands up in the air with two fingers up signifying peace, i wasn't sure if i would get grabbed by the police officers but also on the protest side because there was so much anger and frustration, i didn't know what to expect.
>> one see in this video we see people preparing to taunt you and make fun of what you're doing. what were they saying? why were they saying that? you've been doing this for some time. you've gone to political rallies, donald trump rallies, doing this. what do you make of the people taunting you for this? >> i think they were young. i don't think they understand the message of unity. they looked at the police officers, even the police officers that were there, as the enemy and what i was trying to help them understand was that these individual police officers that are standing here are not the reason why the protest is even taking place, these men did not shoot anyone and these kids felt that just based on the uniforms that they wear that that makes them all guilty by
association and what i was trying to explain to them is to generalize or categorize police officers that way, that would be like someone saying, well, this r this black man did this therefore every black man is now a criminal, every black man is guilty and it's not right. some people may say yeah, that's their profession, they're supposed to protect and serve but there's good cops and there's bad cops and the majority of cops are good so every time that we have one of these cases that pops up, we can't go and get upset at the other 90 something percent of police officers that are just trying to do their job and do it well and we're really only hearing about these cases, that can't make them the any. >> ken nwadike, thank you for being here. it's remarkable what you're doing in the face of all of this. thank you. >> thank you. coming up next, breaking news. yahoo! just confirming as many as 500 million of its accounts were hacked.
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breaking news for any of you who have a yahoo account, that's a lot of people around the world. the company confirming a report that hundreds of millions of user accounts have been hacked. we're talking about 500 million accounts. brian stelter, senior media correspondent and host of "reliable sources" is here. this is a huge hack, there's a lot to get to including who they
are blaming which is fascinating and scary. what information did these hackers get? >> names, e-mail addresses, phone numbers, in some cases security questions you use to reset your accounts. not passwords but a lot of other data, about 500 million yahoo users. it could be one of the biggest breaches ever and for yahoo one of the biggest media and tech companies in the world in the middle of being sold to verizon, comes at a hard time for them. there's no good time but it's worse now. and poppy, this happened in 2014. we're only hearing about it now. >> why? some of the big tech blocks said yahoo was going to confirm this but this came out in raug. >> there were rumors about this a month ago. >> if that happened in 2014 is that a huge red light? a transparency question, why did you not tell the public about it sooner? >> that's the first question i have and yahoo isn't explaining that. they said they became aware of the stolen information and they figured out what happened but it's embarrassing on top of the
other embarrassments. >> that's the other point, it may have happened two years ago but they had no
idea until now. they should have but it's not saying they knew for two years. >> maybe the reason why they didn't know is because of the way this happened. yahoo is saying a state-sponsored actor -- which usually means russia or china or a foreign government -- is behind this hack. >> they come out, they said state-sponsored actor. they don't say who. why go that far but not say who you believe it is. >> perhaps they're trying to figure out that and perhaps the u.s. government is telling them not to give away details. in some of these breaches there are digital fingerprints left behind in other cases it's very difficult to figure out how this hack happened. >> people need to change their passwords, key questions to remind you of what your password is. much more full coverage on cnnmoney.com. brian, thank you so much. still ahead, new york's mayor blasting donald trump for suggesting stop and frisk policies could reduce violence in america. donald trump's campaign now
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out where she was and they've talked to her, she's back in the united states, she returned yesterday, she was transiting through the united arab emirates, poppy, when they -- the fbi contacted'm ratty authorities and had her basically brought if for an interview. she told them she had no idea what was happening, she had no idea about this attack, the planning for plot. >> it just happened to be she was out of the country? >> she left on a pre-planned trip and the fbi believes her. they think she bought tickets way in advance and she wouldn't have known. she was scheduled to be coming back at the time he was doing this so she's back here and they say she's cooperating with them and they expect that this is going to continue. >> but who is not cooperating is rahami. and now he's intubated so can't be questioned. >> we hear from the u.s. attorney's office in new jersey that there will be time before they can ask questions of him.
the thing with this case is that they feel that they can take time to question him about it. they've been trying to figure out where he's been throw the time he's captured. there's a gap between the time of the first chelsea bombing and the time he leaves manhattan. who might he have been talking to? they found on his cell phone that he didn't have service so he was using wi-fi to communicate using encrypted alps, so that will be an issue new a lot of cases recently. >> san bernardino. >> san bernardino and other terrorism cases where terrorists are using apps and the fbi can't
use that. >> and the fight between fbi and a until the san bernardino case -- >> has not been resolved. . >> as for the donald trump campaign, walking back comments that suggested the controversial policy of stop and frisk be widely expanded. this as the republican candidate makes his pitch to african-american voters. listen to what he said during a town hall. >> i would do stop and frisk. i think you have to. we did in the new york, it worked incredibly well. you have to be pro active. [ applause ] you really help people sort of change their mind automatically. you understand. you have to have -- in my opinion, i see what's going on here, i see what's going on in chicago, i think stop and frisk. in new york city it was so incredible the way it worked. >> but this morning both donald trump and his campaign clarifying saying he was specifically referring to chicago. well, the mayor of new york, bill de blasio, blaming and
blasting trump's remark saying if the policy were reinstated tension between police officers and blab communities would increase. so take a look at the stats and here's what the numbers show us. the numbers also show us this, lett's pull up the other graphic. from 2004 to mid-2012, 4.4 million people were stopped in new york city. 87% of them were minorities, black or latino. only 12% of them were charged. those are the numbers from 2004 to 2012. paul ryan was asked about this, house speaker paul ryan was asked about this
and his take on stop and frisk after trump's comments. here's what he said. >> i don't have an answer for you because it's not something i've familiarized myself, the constitutionality of it, its effica efficacy, whether it worked well in new york city or not. that's my point. >> let's bring in chief political correspondent dana
bash. he punted. he did not answer. and the fact that the matter is the data is out there. the raw numbers are out there. what do you make of his answer? >> paul ryan is actually -- has been relatively open to either agreeing or disagreeing and in many cases disagreeing with controversial things donald trump says. in this case he did punt my sense is he has one shot at punting and the next time he's asked he won't have that ability to do it or he shouldn't because now he has the opportunity to familiarize himself. he's a budget guy. he has a lot of strengths that he knows off his head. but given what is happening in charlotte over the past 24, 48 hours, everybody has to familiarize themselves with these stats, especially those running the country. >> let's talk about a volunteer in the key swing state of ohio,
for the trump campaign, kathy miller, who said something very controversial. listen. >> >> i don't think there was any racism until obama got elected. we never had problems like this, you know, i'm in the real estate industry. there's none. now, you know, the people with the guns and shooting up neighborhoods and not being responsible citizens that's a big change and that's the philosophy that obama has perpetuated on america. i think that's all his responsibility and if you're black and you haven't been successful in the last 50 years, it's your own fault. we have three generations of all still having unwed babies, kids that don't go through high school, i mean, when do they take responsibility for how they live? i think it's due time and i think that's good mr. trump is pointing that out. >> all right, so she resign ed,
they've put out a statement saying they accepted her resignation. your thoughts on that and how reflective that the. >> and you can see the look at the reporter saying "are you really saying this to me right now?" it's preposterous. forget about the facts which are not on her side at all and we could do a show about how they're not on her side but also the politics of it which is just crazy for her to be saying something like that at this t e time. she wasn't just a volunteer. she was the county of the chair in ohio, ohio being an incredibly important state. >> that county, too, is like key swing county with a ton of undecided voters. >> exactly, exactly. and to people who are looking at the trump campaign saying this is exhibit a of why they are
intolerant and every other reason why people really don't like donald trump then they'll use it. but to people saying wait a minute, we're misunderstood, they're going say this is exactly what is right with the trump campaign, as soon as she said with what she said -- she resigned, she was dismissed. she not only separated herself from the campaign she made clear that she won't be participating in the electoral college process. >> dana, thank you for the reporting. >> thank you. coming up, any minute now we'll bring you a live news conference out of charlotte, north carolina, we're just waiting for the family of mr. scott who was schott and killed by a police officer this week coming out to speak following a second night of violence and riots in charlotte. we'll bring you that live as soon as it happens. also a six-year-old boy's touching letter to president obama makes its way to the floor of the united nations. why the president says we could all learn a lesson from what this little boy has to say about syrian refugees. cure cancer million? far off. liver disease treatment. that by voting yes on prop 61 - costs. dollars pass. don't let that happen. it - because one day it might.
a letter to the president, a letter different than most, the writing, that of a child, alex, a six-year-old boy from new york wrote a letter to the president asking if he could arrange for his family to adopt a syrian refugee, specifically this young five-year-old boy, omron. his home was struck a few weeks ago by air strikes, his brother died in the attack. >> "dear president obama? remember the boy who was picked up by the ambulance in syria? can you please go get him and bring him to our home? park in the driveway or on the street and we'll be waiting for you guys with flags, flowers, and food. we will give him a family and he will be our brother. my little sister will be collecting butterflies and fireflies for him. in my school i have a friend from syria, omron, and i will introduce him to omar and we can
all play together. we can invite them to birthday parties." >> white house correspondent michelle kosinski is with me. it breaks your heart. and this letter is one that the president and the white house made public. you saw that was on their web site. the president even read it during his speech at the united nations. >> if you haven't, you should take a look at the letter. you don't even need to hear the little boy alex read it, you don't need the music in the background. even just looking at it and reading the words written in the hand of a six-year-old, it's hard not to get emotional and that's i think what the president wanted to speak to in the speech he gave tuesday at the u.n. so often we see numbers associated with this refugee crisis and they're staggering. 65 million displaced around the world. more than 500,000 people killed in syria.
but a lot of times you hear the numbers. it might not register until you see that human face and we've seen that a number of times this year. all those people thousands of them working through europe with just their possessions. or the little boy who was three, the syrian refugee who was dead and face down on the turkish beach. that was another one and president obama mentioned him, too, but he saved special words for this boy who wrote him a letter, listen. >> the humanity a young child can display who hasn't learned to be cynical or suspicious or fearful of other people because of where they're from or how they look or how they pray. and who just understands the notion of treating somebody that we can all learn from alex.
>> the speech on tuesday kind of got lost in the news shuffle of the day. remember, it was the same day he gave what was essentially his farewell speech to the u. n. in this speech on refugees specifically he used some of the strongest words we've ever heard the president use on the subject. he called out other countries for not doing enough, saying too often we make excuses or politicians pay attention to attaining power and holding on to it. he said what's going on in syria is unacceptable. he said it's a test of our common humanity and that failing to act would be a stain on our collective conscience. poppy. >> michelle, he said in that long "vanity fair" interview that the situation in syria haunts him constantly. 6-year-old boy really bringing it to life in this letter. thank you, michelle.
at any moment now you will hear from the family of mr. scott, who was killed in charlotte by that police officer. they're about to take the podium. what will they say, especially after the violence and the riots broke out in their city last night. we will bring it to you live. stay with us. that's charmin ultra strong, dude. cleans so well, it keeps
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>> i want to let you know that, leading up to these moments, the family had every intention of being here. however, they are in a moment of grieving and, quite frankly, emotionally they weren't ready. and i would apologize for that, but i don't see a reason to because, at the end of the day, this is about the family. this family is grieving the loss of someone they care very deeply about. and honestly, this family has questions, and they deserve answers. this community deserves answers. we are hearing this side of the story, that side of the story. it seems as though every which way you look, there is a witness who says i saw this, there is a witness who says, i saw that. we have been made aware that the police apparently have video footage that may have caught
some of the incident that is the subject of us being here today. and the family requested to be able to view that video. and later on this afternoon we will, in fact, review that video, and we hope to have some additional answers. when we look at what happened to mr. scott and when we look at what has happened around the country with individuals being shot down and killed by law enforcement, we can't talk about those incidents in isolation because we have to look to the root problems. when you look at the fact that there has been rioting in
charlotte, north carolina, there has been property damage in charlotte, north carolina, there have been individuals injured here in charlotte, north carolina, and many of us wonder why. let me make this very clear.
this family -- this family does not -- does not agree with rioting or innocent individuals being injured or killed. but they do support citizens
and their right to voice their frustration, to voice their anger. and when you look at those who take to the streets and you look at those who raise their voices and take certain actions, whether you agree with them or not, you have to be willing to step back and understand why they feel the way that they do. you see, in this country we do have a problem, and it has to be talked about. regardless of the facts of how these situations play out at the end of the day, many citizens in this country feel as though many minorities, when they are encountered with the police, they're guilty until proven innocent. they're a threat until they prove that they are not a
threat. and quite frankly, many feel as though they are inhuman until they are proven to be human. that is the underlying problem. i ask for calm. we ask for calm here in charlotte. we don't want to see people getting hurt. we want you to voice your opinions, but we don't want you to destroy the very community that you live in. the family doesn't want that either. however, feel free to voice your opinion. feel free to speak up against the things that you see as injustice, against the injustices that have unfolded and been uncovered. feel free to do that because that is your right. but do it in the right way. again, the family wants answers, the family deserves answers, and we will continue to work and investigate the facts until all of the accurate facts come to
light. >> thank you very much. right now this family is in deep mourning. they look the answers to bring closure to their lives. they've hired us to do an in-depth investigation to ascertain the due process of keith lamont. they've asked us to look into the situation to see whether or not what happened to mr. scott was lawful and legal. and we intend to do so. we are here. the land cries out for an answer. the blood, once again, of a black man has been shed. are we our brother's keepers? we intend to find that out. thank you for coming. >> what does the family feel about the video being released to the public? >> quite frankly, we don't know what's on the video. we know what law enforcement says is on the video. in terms of it being released to the public, they can't answer
that until we have the opportunity to see what it shows. you have to keep in mind, with regards to these videos -- and we talk about it -- we have seen videos leaked online of individuals losing their lives before the family has the opportunity to sometimes even find out. that is traumatic. we have become desensitized as a society to the killing of citizens in this country. and these videos contribute to that. so we have to be mindful of the feelings of the loved ones of the people who have died before we rally to say, make the video public. today we'll have the opportunity to view and see what's on the video, and then we will address the rest later. >> sir, good afternoon. so you are disagreeing with some of the protesters and demonstrators who say that the video has to be released for transparency. right now you are saying you're not sure if you want the video released until you see it. >> first and foremost what we
want out is the truth. >> ultimately what i think the whole community here wants is the truth. and to the extent that release of the video can somehow help us reach that truth, i think that the family will ultimately support its release. but one thing we did learn in the jonathan ferrell case and other cases is that these videos don't always hold all the answers and that everyone needs to reserve judgment until we know all of the facts. >> were arrangements made for the video to be watched by the family today? >> yes, sir. >> in the moments after the shooting first happened, some members of mr. scott's family were adamant he was holding a book. does the family still maintain that position? >> yes. yes. the individuals who saw this maintain that they saw him holding a book. there are other witnesses who say he didn't have anything. you have law enforcement who says he had a gun. part of the problem here is