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number of breaking news stories out of charlotte outside of washington state. we'll continue to update you on breaking news stories. make sure you stay tuned cnn. that is it for us tonight. we'll be back here sunday night at 11:00 with a preview of the first presidential debate. ♪ good morning. we're so combragrateful to see i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. >> there's some breaking news we want to get to you out of the state of washington. take a look at that on your scene there. police are looking for this man. trying to hunt him down right now because they say he opened fire inside of a shopping mall last night and killed at least four people. cnn's jessica snyder has more. hi, jessica. >> authorities believe one shooter is responsible, now
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they're searching for that man who took off on intestate 5 after the attack. witnesses say one minute they were enjoying a night at the mall, another, they saw officers with guns telling them to leave and fast. >> reporter: chaos and confusion at a shopping center an hour outside of seattle. four women shot to death, one man wounded friday night at the cascade mall in burlington, washington. all the victims were inside the macy's department store. >> yes. it sounded right there in the makeup department. >> reporter: this morning, police are looking for this unidentified subject captured on the school surveillance camera. authorities believe he was carrying a hunting-type rifle and believe he acted alone. some say he left and headed toward a freeway. >> he seriously injured a fifth who might also pass away. i would be ex creamily diligent
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and careful. >> reporter: the entire complex was evacuated. many of those who came out were taken to a nearby church for safety. >> the most chaotic at a scene in a while. the most chaotic to me that's ever been here. i wouldn't think this would even happen here. so, i'm shocked. >> police and k-9s have been searching that nearly 500,000-square foot mall all night long. the shooting happened around 5:00 p.m. local time. there's no word that any additional attacks were planned in the state. >> jedica snichneider, we appreciate the update. just moments ago, a knock knock, lifted overnight ,- after another night of peaceful protests. as violence rocked the city earlier.
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you hear the chant "release the tapes, release the tapes." they're calling for justice in the police shooting death of keith scott. and demanded that charlotte police department release body and dash cam video. authorities tell cnn, there were no arrests. no use of tear gas. no injuries, no property damage in the protests there. our brynn gingras brings us to charlotte where another rally. and i wonder if authorities had any trouble enforcing the curfew from midnight to 6:00. >> reporter: that's right, victor, that curfew started at midnight. at that time, the charlotte police department. tweeted they didn't have any problems and that the protests were peaceful. about two hours later, they said there were 75 people that weren't following the dispersal
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orders. they may have made arrests overnight. overall, it does seem that the protests were peaceful. there were protests on the highway, on the streets, but everyone was certainly following those orders. that is the good news. again, we're hearing from protesters that they are going to be here throughout the weekend, really. as they continue to say exactly what youlease those tapes. that's the focus of the protests. after the scott family released their own version of what happened. now, they want the charlotte police department to release the tapes, body cam footage and dash cam footage. we're hearing there are talks with state investigators now the lead on the investigation, we're also learning that attorneys have been involved whether or not to those tapes are released. yes, in the meantime, victor, we do expect more protests to pick up today at 1:00.
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>> of course, the fear that some had was after the release of the video that we saw on midday friday that would be a return to the violence that we saw earlier in the week. >> right. >> and of course, that urge continues now. people asking the charlotte police department to release their video, as we said, the release of the cell phone video, that led up to and actually showed that shooting. >> we do want to forewarn you, we know it's early, it's saturday morning, and the video we're about to let you see here, it's difficult to watch. you're going to hear his wife pleading with officers not to shoot. you're going to hear her reaction after he is shot. >> reporter: the video is 2 minutes and 12 seconds and it's hard to watch. the tape begins with a standoff between charlotte police officers and keith lamont scott. his wife lakeia scott is recording the video. >> don't shoot him.
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don't shoot him. he has no weapon. he has no weapon. don't shoot him. >> reporter: a second later, though, you hear police shout about a gun. >> a gun -- >> reporter: the shaky video shows police surrounding scott's white vehicle, but what you don't see from this vantage point is scott himself. 20 seconds into it, another firm warning from scott's wife that her husband does not have a gun but he does have a traumatic brain injury. >> he doesn't have a gun, he has a tmi. >> reporter: she tells police her husband just took his medicine that he's not going to do anything to them but the situation escalates. >> lakeia scott. >> keith let him break the window, come on out of the car. >> reporter: police can be heard yelling to scott to drop the gun at least nine times.
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don't shoot him, don't shoot im. he didn't do anything. he doesn't have a gun. he has a tbi. >> drop the gun. drop the gone. drop the gun. >> reporter: then about 50 seconds after he was told to put his hands up, police fired. but not before one final warning. >> t.! t.! don't you do it. >> reporter: four shots can be heard on the video. though the actual shooting is off camera. it's still unclear what mrs. scott was trying to tell her husband when she shouted don't do it. >> t.! t.! don't you do it. >> reporter: still up for debate? if keith scott had a weapon as police had complained and what prompts officers to shoot. his wife clearly shocked by what
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she witnessed. did you shoot him? did you shoot him? he better not be dead? >> reporter: she moves closer. unsure he's alive or dead, she's stunned. >> he better live. i swear he better live. yep. he better live. >> reporter: on the video, it's hard to tell if the gun they saw was anywhere on ground. the chief shows what appears to be a handgun on the pavement at scott's feet. the photo was clearly taken after the individual, since crime seen tape not seen in the video is up. when asked about the gun being in the photo but not clearly in the video. a spokeswoman told charlotte, quote, it's hard of the investigation and a question for the state investigation board. randi kaye, cnn, new york. >> so, obviously, there is a lot to analyze in that video, asking
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questions about what is seen in the video and what is not seen in the video and what we can learn from the dash cam and body cam video that the charlotte police department has not released. and key moments that are vital to the investigation. and we'll we want to move into the political arena with you. donald trump and hillary clinton has put plans to visit charlotte on hold while that situation plays out. their next big focus is, of course, monday night's presidential debate. what to expect when they go head to head. that is monday, 9:00 p.m. right here on cnn. meantime, after months of bitter name calling. senator ted cruz makes a stunning u-turn. a full about-face. and we're talking with hollywood director joss wheadon about his new star-studded
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trump now is singing a different tune. >> a year ago, i stood her and i made a promise i would support the republican party. that's a promise i made to people across this country. and as i thought about it, prayed about it, what to do, what my conscience told me, is that i need to keep my word. >> meantime, hillary clinton is picking up a surprising endorsement of her own. the cincinnati inquirer, one of the largest newspapers, the republican board backing her after backing every republican nominee in every psych until nearly 100 years. >> cnn correspondent jim acosta has been following both presidential candidates as we lead into this debate. here's more. >> victor and kristie, donald trump and ted truz set aside their bitter battles.
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trump speculated that cruz's father was involved in a the kennedy assassination. the hope is to win back never-trump republicans. >> reporter: with the clock ticking down to round one of those debates with hillary clinton donald trump just brought a crucial new ally into his corner, ted cruz. the same texas senator who declined to endorse the gop nominee at the republican convention this center. >> vote for candidates up and down the ticket who you trust to defend our freedom and to be faithful to the constitution. i appreciate the enthusiasm of the new york delegation. >> reporter: now, cruz says he's backing trump to keep the supreme court from tilting to the left. adding in a facebook post a year ago i pledged to endorse the republican nominee and i'm honoring that commitment. and if you don't want to see a hillary clinton presidency, i encourage you to vote for him.
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after the violence charlotte, trump is already previewing his lines of attack against clinton for the first debate accusing her of siding against the police. >> those peddling the narrative of cops is a racist society. and says that narrative that is supported with a nod by my opponent. you see what she's saying? and it's not good. shared directly in the responsibility for the unrest that is inflicting our country. >> reporter: the clinton campaign says that's nonsense. tim kaine says it's all about coming together. >> if you make the relationship between the police and the community more add of course sailor, you're not going to close down the gap, you're goad to wind the gap. >> i look in that ugly face of her. >> reporter: in this new ad of energizing a key clinton. voting bloc. >> you treat women with respect? >> i can't say that either.
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>> reporter: trump stay ted os today. trump adviser rudy giuliani called it a strategy session. sources say trump is watching videos of clinton's past debates, while clinton is studying briefing bookings and ways to get under his skin. the gop nominee has been trash talking clinton all week. >> where is hillary today? well, she say she's been practicing for the debate. some people think she's slipping. ♪ >> reporter: both sides have colorful characters add to get hype. college basketball legend bobby knight is talking up trump's chances. >> i think people will really get a look at him that maybe they haven't seen before. >> reporter: while the clinton campaign complained they have a brash billionaire on their side in mark cube hoon tweeted he just got a front seat to watch clinton overwhelm trump at the
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host hofstra on monday. >> i think trump is an immediate and present danger to this country. >> trump will continue to virginia for a campaign rally later today. and the clinton campaign says the democratic nominee will visit charlotte tomorrow. victor and christi. we've learned in the last few hours that hillary clinton will be putting off that trip to charlotte, until after next week, after request from the mayor to give them some time with stretched resources there. we're going to talk about the presidential debate. also ted cruz's endorsement. we've got our political panel with us, scott and scottie, ready to get into it with us this morning. stay with us. [ "on the road again," by willie nelson ] ♪ on the road again [ rear alert sounds ] [ music stops ]
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the battle lines are drawn and now the two presidential nominees will face off on the debate stage on monday night. pay attention to the counter on the screen. donald trump and hillary clinton they've got a lot at stake. here to discuss more, a. scott bolden, and scottie nell hughes, a cnn commentator and a trump supporter. >> good morning. >> scottie, trump has been watching videos looking for ways to rattle clinton. he's looking for the big moment, not really involved in the specific details. i wonder, though, can he go for the 90-minute debate without putting real meat in the policy bones without a teleprompter. >> well, he doesn't need to show
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he's an expert in every category with facts and numbers. but he needs to show he has a good grasp on the issue. he needs to show he's not a terrible risk. he needs to speak with confidence something we know he can do. and in order to get to hillary clinton, get under her skin he needs to address her with dignity. and just the top lines and let the people continue to do their research on their own. >> scott, let me come to you, he's going for the big moment. we know clinton is spending time looking through the policy documents. her own, looking through trump's. is there a problem here potential for her getting too down and muddied into the specific details without the big moment? >> i don't think see. she's a skilled litigator. she's a skilled lawyer. debater. she'll be at the top of her game. again, the bar is low for trump, but it's also low for hillary because of who she's going
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against. listen, donald trump is run, but he can't hide as my mother used to say. she's got so much material to attack his record, to attack his policies to attack his credibility, that it will be interesting to see how donald trump manages that, if you will. it will also be interesting to see whether he does well or not. it's going to be a long night for him, because he's going to be on the defensive yet in his policies, his pigs and his hypocrisy. and he's never had just one debate -- one debater on stage. he can't hide behind those lines now. let the games begin. >> this is new for donald trump. one-on-one. there was that call for a one-on-one debate between ted cruz and donald trump. he refused to do that. how well do you think they'll do one-on-one, i was going to say mano y mano, bought we've got a man and woman on the stage.
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>> one thing it's easy for him to have, just like ronald reagan, he needs people focus on him and not necessarily have her be the headline. it's pretty easy to hear scott talk about he's got to stand up for 90 minutes and the stamina. that's one of the issues we're questioning right now. she's going to be focused on getting down in the dirty and dealing with policies. but she's also got a record that's so full of attacks. she's the one that actually has a voting record. she's the one that's been in government. with mr. trump, you're just trying to pull the open speculation this is what he might do. we know what kind of president hillary clinton will be. and that's why she's not winning by 50 points in her polls. she doesn't know, well, it's because of your record, hillary clinton and your positions on policies. >> hold up. let me skaask you, scottie, abo the attacks that many expect
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donald trump will bring to this debate. he still has toe close the gender gap. there's a cnn poll out this month that 60% of women believe that trump has unfairly attacked clint innocent general so far. how does he walk that line of bringing the criticisms that you've mentioned without further alienating the women that he needs to win over? >> well, unfortunately, i don't think who is there, maybe jesus christ himself would have a problem -- the white elephant in the room is sexism. if he comes over too strong, he's going to be seen as a bully. says that hard line for any candidate to walk, especially mr. trump. hillary clinton does have a problem with women. that's why you see this advertisement out. she's losing by 17 points -- >> so does is donald trump. >> she's losing with married women. this is why he's panicking right
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now and needs to get this voter out. that glass ceiling, it was broken in the '70s by my mother's generation. it's kind of plexiglas at this point. >> i don't know whether the glass ceiling was ever broken. panicking, you hear the word? >> i doubt that, she's never panicked. donald trump will be on stage alone with one debater and no teleprompter. he can't help himself but to go off message. when he gets cornered as we've seen in the past, he's going to go on the attack. if he doesn't attack policy, he attacks personally. and with hillary clinton who is an historic women's political figure, he's going to go on that attack, and he loses the debate at that juncture because he's going to lose the women vote because he doesn't know thousand attack her policies. he can't get around that. it's going to be entertaining but detrimental to his campaign.
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that is the difference between him and hillary clinton and winning this debate. if she can take her time attacking him with his own videos. >> and we've got got the e-mails this week. we'll see how high the latest release from the fbi moves that topic into the evening. a. scott bolden, scotty nell hughes, thank you both. still to come, fed up and demanding action, congressional black caucus officers storm because and go there to the a.g.'s office as the nation reels with the killings at the hands of two more police. he is unqualified to be president. >> hillary clinton lacks the just. >> the scams, the fraud. >> hillary clinton has evaded justice. >> he clearly has something to hide. >> her conduct is disqualifying. >> clinton, trump, head to head,
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>> announcer: is this cnn breaking news. we have an update for you regarding news from washington state. just learning here moments ago that a fifth victim has died now while they were in the hospital after that shooting spree inside the cascade mall in burlington,
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washington. police right now hunting for this man. please do us a favor. take a look at your screen here. they say this man opened fire last night, killing four women and now one man who was also shot and died at the hospital, we have just learned. the chaos unfolded inside the macy's store there at cascade mall. police searching the mall, they say some reports say he left the scene, that he was headed towards highway interstate 5. i don't know if he was headed there on foot or in a vehicle, but we're told the suspect was carrying a hunting-type of rifle. this is a warning for people in the area to stay inside, to be very vigilant as they do not know where the suspect is right now. we'll continue to follow this and keep you posted. time now 33 minutes after the hour. and just 33 minutes ago, the curfew in the city of charlotte was lifted. after a fourth night of protests
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in the city. before the curfew began at midnight, though, we saw a lot of peaceful protesters, they are, though, demanding the release of the official police video showing the shooting death of keith scott. >> the family has released cell phone video at the scene as recorded by scott's wife. she released their video because police would not release their individual. we're going to show you that in a little bit. it's certainly disturbing. >> keith get out the car. keith, keith, don't you do it. don't you do it. keith. keith. don't you do it. did you shoot him? did you shoot him? did you shoot him? >> we'll continue to have conversations with some of our analysts and reporters with the latest there from charlotte. not just on the investigation. but on that videotape and
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whether more videotape will be released from dash cam video and the body cams from the place that were on the scene there. >> also, i want to talk to you about tulsa, oklahoma. terence crutcher's funeral is going to be held tonight at 8:00 there. remember, he was shot and killed by a police officer in the middle of the street on september 16th. his video of that scene, following the release of the video that you're watching here a few days later. officer betty shelby was charged with manslaughter. her brother was look to change his life. >> he just left school. he wanted to make us you proud. he wanted to do something bigger. he wanted to grow. he wanted to become a better person. he wanted to be better. and he didn't want this, he didn't ask for this. so, that's what i think about.
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sorry. i'm going to miss him. >> betty shelby turned herself in shortly after charge. she's now been released on $50,000 fine. they're calling on the federal government to help restore faith in the criminal justice system. let's talk about that with cnn politics reporter eugene scott. eugene, good morning. >> good morning, victor. >> members of the caucus are taking their case straight to loretta lynch's door and asking her to investigate this and other killings of black men and women they say. what's the tone they're getting from the cbc? >> we saw some members of the
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cbc march to the attorney general's office and present a letter for her to investigate these killings and actually quite a few others throughout the united states. they want to see specifically whether or not there was a civil rights violation involving the deaths in tulsa and charlotte. and they want to hear solutions about how the government will go forward with preventing similar situations from happening in the future. >> so there is this urgency for transparency as we discussed in the shootings. new york state representative greg meeks is chairman of the black cause customer, state wroostatewide, he said that more body cameras are the answer. listen. >> you have to fund more body cameras. because what we know is when you have a visual view of what's taking place, it helps transparency. we can pass a piece of legislation that will require the attorney general to come up
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with the statistics, clearly showing the makeup of who is being shot and who is not. we don't even do that. so there's pieces of legislation that's written that we can pass that can make a difference to get people to believe the trust factor that's involved here. >> and he's the chair of the cbc political action committee. what's the likelihood that something like this, in this climate politically will go? >> representative meeks makes it clear that the entire for funding for body cameras is actually bipartisan. he also said there's bipartisan support for more funding for training for law enforcement so they know how to respond better in situations like this. it's not a very partisan issue in terms of support or interest along those lines. maybe there is an increased likelihood that there can be more post for this since people from both sides are on board with it. >> let's talk about the world of presidential politics. we are fewer than 50 days out
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from the general election. so, no surprise that there is potentially some role of run for the white house in their decision to become so aggressive and assertive on this issue. >> yeah, we've seen both candidates speak out very boldly on these situations this week on multiple situations and multiple events. because it has affected voters across party lines and along the aisles. but it seems like their approach is very different, in terms what they think needs to happen. i think donald trump spoke very specifically about the needs to have more support for law enforcement and protect those communities. whereas, hillary clinton spoke very aggressively for the need for systematic racism to be pushed back against. and for voters to understand more of what this country's history has been with these issues. >> and this also could be a play from the cbc to firm up their support with supporters of the black lives matter movement to
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believe maybe they have been not as supportive as they should have been. >> absolutely. president obama was at the presidential black caucus conference and spoke boldly about the needs for blacks and millennials to get on board with the hillary clinton campaign because they have not as they have with president obama's in the past. they hope they can motivate the supporters for hillary clinton. >> hillary clinton at 37 with millenni millennials. barack obama won with 67% and 60% with voters in respectively '08 and a2012. eugene scott, thank you. newly released 911 tapes reveal some of the orlando shooter's chilling last words in june. you're going to hear more. that may give us some indication, does it, why he opened fire on that packed
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nightclub back in june? my home boy, tamerlan tsarnaev says mateen, my home boy did his thing, okay?
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44 minutes past the hour right now. and newly released 911 calls reveals a closer look, i'd say, into what happened in the pus nightclub mass shooting back in june. >> yeah, we're hearing more of what the gunman told 911 operators and police investigators during that standoff at the club in orlando. 49 people, you'll remember, were
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killed. 53 others were mounded. here's cnn's miguel marquez. >> reporter: in the midst of unfolding horror and chaos, people fleeing, others shot is, being carried from the bar. in the end, hundreds of calls to 911 operators. >> yes. we have gunshots at pulse. >> reporter: perhaps the most disturbing of all, one call came from the shooter himself omar mateen. even just the transcript is chilling. this is mateen, i want to let you know i'm in orlando and i did the shooting. the 911 operator tries to engage him. what's your name says the operator. my name is a pledge of allegiance to the islamic state. the operator continues to try and engage mateen, but almost as soon as the call starts he hanging. you mateen called 911 several
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timings and operators desperately try to call him back. it's not clear there was ever any discussion between mateen and the 911 operators. for three excruciating hours, mateen held up in the building, at first moving through the club looking for victims. for the first time, we're seeing the actual attempted negotiations between police and mateen. you have to tell america to stop bombing syria and iraq, mateen tells negotiators. they are killing a lot of incident people. what am i to do here when my people are getting killed over there. you get what i'm saying. the gunman telling police his attack on the nightclub was in retaliation for an air strike that killed isis leader abu hamene. that's what triggered it, okay, mateen tells negotiators. it's unclear why mateen attached
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such importance to abu waheen's death. my homeboy, tamerlan tsarnaev, my homeboy did his thing? okay. so now it's my turn, okay? he told negotiators he was wearing a vest. teasing them at times about whether or not it was explosive and whether bombs were in his car. no explosives were ever found. mateen threatened your people are going to get it and i'm going to ignite it if they try to do anything student. mateen was finally killed when police stormed the building at 5:00 a.m. more than three hours after the shooting began. the deadliest mass shooting in u.s. history. 49 people dead. miguel marquez, cnn, new york.
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the worst santa ana winds of the season are fuelling it. allison chinchar is looking at it. >> we take a look at what we got going on today. the winds are going to peak today with the temperatures peaking tomorrow. it's the combination of the two that could potentially fuel some fires. we'll have more details coming up. no one way of driving on each and every road. but there is one car that can conquer them all. the mercedes-benz c-class. five driving modes let you customize the steering, shift points, and suspension to fit the mood you're in... and the road you're on. the 2016 c-class. lease the c300 for $369 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer.
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thousands of people in southern california are under an extreme fire threat over the next few days, but bracing for
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the big first santa ana wind event of the season with gusts projected up to 50 miles per hour. meteorologist allison chinchar is in the weather center. we know it's hot there, we know it's dry there. we know the winds are expected to peak on sunday. how severe is the threat? >> when you area santa ana, you think, okay, california gets fires. but for people in california these are the particular winds that they take note of and that's because these are the ones that can really cause dangerous fires. all of this area in red is under a critical fire danger. we're talking the southern third of the state. we're talking strong winds as you mentioned 50 to 55-mile-per-hour gusts. hot temperatures back in the 90s. even triple digits. dry area, low humidity, oftentimes, 10% or even less.
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let's take a look it's really good to understand the top aography. you have the hot desert air. the dry desert air that's out further inland, meeting with that marine layer that's closer to the water. what we have offshore meaning they're coming from land towards the shore. it takes that very dry air through these very narrow passages. and what happens is, it condenses those winds and it allows for it to speed up a little bit. you end up resulting getting a lot of the fires into the valleys. and the santa ana winds are known for producing these. the threat going forward as we hit this peak event is going to be the fires that occur over the coming days. guys. >> allison chinchar, thank you so much. hollywood stars lend their voices to campaign. we talk to the new super pac
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>> some of us -- >> like, you've seen us somewhere. sometimes, a not famous person will be mixed in with the famous ones. >> and the purpose is to keep donald trump from being elected president. i spoke with joss wheadon about why he created this pac and why he actually donated 1 million of his own dollars to this effort. watch. >> i think the selection that's just very different than anything that's come before us. i think the stakes are higher. i think it's really a question of who we are as a done and whether or not we're going to survive as a body. as the united states. i think, you know, there's been differences in ideology. this has gone beyond that. this is a difference in our very essential being. i don't think it's ever been more important for people to remember that voting is something that can change the nation. >> yeah. and the stars in this ad actually tick off some of the
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issues. let's watch another portion of the ad. >> it affects everything. >> not just the presidency. but the senate. >> house. >> your local officials. >> student debt. common sense gun laws. >> the supreme court. >> you actually call this or i should say one of the actors in this ad calls this a tipping point. do you think the voters you're trying to reach, most of them millennials, some of the group that support hillary clinton, see this as a tipping point? >> i think not enough people do. i think there are a lot of people say, well, it's -- you know, everything's corrupt or it's the lesser of two evils. and i think that's a very strange myopic way of looking at what is a fight between good and evil in a way that is never been so clear. i think apathy is the thing that can put donald trump in the white house and can kick this nation back to the stone age. >> coming up at 8:00 eastern, we'll have more of my
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conversation with joss wheadon. you'll see more of the video which has been viewed more than 30 million times. there's an awful lot to tell you about this morning. >> next hour of your "new day" starts right now. ♪ i want to wish you a good saturday morning. thank you so much for sharing your company with us. we're always grateful. >> i'm christi paul. >> and i'm victor black well. >> we do have breaking news out of washington state. take a look at your screen, please. there is an intense hunt for this man last night who police say opened fire at a shopping mall and killed five people. cnn's jessica schneider has more for us. four women shot to death and one man faltsly wounded friday night at the mall in burlington, washington. all were inside

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