tv Early Start With John Berman and Christine Romans CNN September 26, 2016 1:00am-2:01am PDT
and here we go. hillary clinton and donald trump set to come face-to-face. the first debate hours away. both set to address critical issues. both foreign and domestic and what each could do to win over the voters. "early start" begins right now. welcome to "early start." i'm christine romans. >> i'm john berman. it is monday, september 26th. 4:00 a.m. in the east. it is here. what could be the most
consequential debate of the lifetime at hofstra university. hillary clinton and donald trump face-off on stage for the first time. they have 90 minutes to convince you about the case of america's future. you may have noticed these candidates don't like each other much. this is not who slings the most mud or scores the most points, but who can lead the country when there are questions about race, terror, prosperity. the selection is tied up. we have new information this morning about how the candidates are preparing and who will be in the audience and what the moderator will or will not do. let's bring in our cnn panel. mark preston is with us. yes, he is. upset victory. mark preston at the debate site.
here in the studio, brian stelter, host of "reliable sources" and then we have eugene scott. mark, bring us up to date what the candidates have been doing. >> reporter: john and christine, it was five hours ago where hillary clinton wrapped up a late-night session. she did that after meeting with prime minister benjamin netanyahu in new york. debate prep is taking place near her home. dan merica reported after the meeting, she went back to do one more round of debate prep. among those with her, her campaign chairman and huma abedin. a lot of policy issues on the table in just a few hours here in hempstead, new york.
meanwhile, donald trump throughout the day yesterday was meeting with advisors and talking about policy issues. here's the difference. with what we are told is donald trump did not hold mock debate sessions. he would stand up for 90 minutes against someone who would be hillary clinton. hillary clinton turned to a former confidante who played donald trump in the mock debates. donald trump doing it differently than what we are normally used to. we will see how that works. >> we will see how that works this evening. it is fascinating to see how they prepare. you have 90 minutes uninterrupted. split screen potentially. it will take discipline and any kind of move or roll of the eye or sigh could be taken. eugene, i want to ask you something. we have been hearing from hillary clinton supporters that they think donald trump has a
different standard that he has to meet. he has to appear presidential. listen to what robbie mook said on state of the union. >> i'm very concerned that donald trump will be graded on a curve. just because he doesn't fly off the handle in the middle of the debate does not mean he is prepared to be president of the united states. >> when they step on stage, it is like they are on equal footing. hillary clinton supporters say it is not fair. >> it is not a big crowd he has to go against and appear better than some people this time around. he has to make it clear he can do what it is that he can convince voters which is lead the free world. some clinton supporters feel like grading him on a curve is unacceptable. >> some are saying if donald trump doesn't make some big
gaffe or if donald trump doesn't say anything wildly inaccurate. then working the rest is the most overused phrase. the campaign is working the refs. if the moderator gets too involved, listen to what kellyanne conway had to say last night. >> if mr. donald trump has any disadvantage going into tomorrow's debate, it is he is not treated fairly. that is obvious if you read the print reports and turn on the stations in the day. the coverage is incomplete and it is all about him negative and bias. >> brian stelter, you know something about this. you spoke to the executive director janet brown. who says if you are looking for us to do the fact checking, you
are looking in the wrong place. >> she does not expect lester holt to be the dictionary. there are several egregious lies trump expressed in the campaign. there are times hillary clinton shaded the truth. there are facts that donald trump lies more often. i think lester holt will step in and say something. he doesn't have to say your wrong, donald trump. he could say mrs. clinton, would you like to set the record straight. or lester holt could say what is the source of your statement? the trump campaign doesn't want to see that happen. >> mark preston, we don't know what will turn out tonight. anything could happen. what is the conventional wisdom? what is the likelihood we will see the kellyanne conway donald
trump and maybe hillary clinton trying to poke the bear to get his temperament out. >> reporter: i think donald trump is best served to go low key and go policy and try not to look as he was during the primary debates where he was really aggressive. whenever he felt he was under attack, he would go on the offense. when somebody would punch him once, he would punch three or four times. different scenario tonight. he and hillary clinton standing next to each other for 90 minutes, christine. here's the key. back in the primary debates when you were asked a question, you had about a minute to answer it. about 30 seconds to follow-up. tonight, it is two minutes to answer it. donald trump who has been very scarce and short on specifics about policy proposals, really does need to fill that two-minute time period. if he doesn't, it will expose the fact that perhaps he doesn't have the specific details for
the policies he has been talking about. >> does he have command of the issues? >> as much about that and the emotional connection we have to these people. i'm curious to see how hillary clinton comes across to the voters at home. i would like to think it is about policy. i think a lot of viewers would be surprised when they see the real donald trump. what i mean is the one who gives the long speeches that his supporters adore. not the person in attack ads offending women and minorities. donald trump who has a personal connection through the camera. that could be the trump on stage which could be hard for hillary clinton to contend with. >> i don't believe for a second they have not been doing mock debates. brian, eugene, mark, stick around. prosperity is one of the
three issues tonight. hillary clinton would hike taxes on wealthy american to help fund tax cuts for the middle class. she is focusing on universal p-k. clinton would spend $275 billion on infrastructure and supports a $15 minimum wage. donald trump would cut taxes for most americans, but the wealthy see the biggest. he wants to lower the tax rate to 15%. he wants to spend twice as much as hillary clinton on infrastructure. protests over a deadly police shooting in north carolina. they were largely peaceful over the weekend. the issue of policing is one of many that will be brought up at the debate tonight. we will discuss much more about their strategies next. also tributes pouring in for
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a midnight curfew lifted in charlotte as protesters hold peaceful demonstrations in the wake of the deadly shooting of keith lamont scott and the police release footage of his death. police are urging the community to stay calm. we get more from cnn's nick valencia. >> reporter: john and christine, the demonstrations continue in charlotte. this crowd chose to protest outside the nfl game. panthers playing the vikings.
did not disrupt the game. we saw the first police video of the shooting. that was part of the demand of the protesters. as far as monday, protesters plan to march to city hall. they want the resignation of the governor and would like the mayor to step down and police chief. they say to plan the protests and will continue until the demands are met. >> nick valencia, thank you. let's bring back our panel this morning on game day in the political world. mark preston and eugene scott and brian stelter. >> this is the super bowl of politics. >> mark, we just heard the report from nick valencia about the situation in charlotte. how big of a role do you think policing and policing and tensions in communities and black lives matter and that
story line, how big will it play tonight? >> reporter: it no doubt will be woven throughout the 90 minutes and who has the ideas to plan with these issues better. it goes deeper than the relationship with the police officers and the urban community. it has to do with economic prosperity and who has the better idea of creating a pathway to the american dream and who is willing to invest in education. you will hear a lot of specifics from hillary clinton as she is addressing that. at the same time, you will hear donald trump continuing to make a case to minorities that why not come with him because as we heard him say in the past few weeks, what do you have to lose? it hasn't been a winning message, necessarily, with the minority community. i expect he will play that card tonight. >> you geeugene, obviously it i
just race, it is terror with the attack in new york city a week ago. i have to believe they are preppre preparing that as well. >> that is an issue that voters feel they care about and the candidates need to address this issue which doesn't seem to go anywhere anytime soon. >> brian, it is interesting that mark is saying they have two minutes to respond. they will have a chance to explain how they will fix it. put policies behind these iss issues. >> and in clinton's case, she has been there, done that. this is more for casual political consumers than a news junkie like me. i heard clinton and trump talk for hours. a lot of americans purposely avoid it. we talk about 80 million viewers
watching. that is why it is more important than the super bowl of politics. every american at home will watch. everybody across the country will be exposed to the candidates for the first time. >> you have been around these issues for a long time. donald trump is new to this. >> i actually think what hillary clinton will try to do and what donald trump is preparing for is make sure he is up to speed on his policies. mark preston, he had a tax plan and it is not all clear a key part of it. the $1 trillion here and $1 trillion there they have not accounted for. on immigration, it is not clear what he wants to do. he has to have answers about himself. i think that is what he is preparing on. i imagine that is what hillary clinton is preparing on too.
>> reporter: no doubt. when you talk about donald trump and talk about policy and expectation, john, to your point, he has gone back and forth on what he would do with the undocumented immigrants in the united states. one point he said he would send them home. that was the mantra in the campaign. then maybe not. then you talk about the tax plan where his original plan differed from what he released a few weeks ago. the idea that he flipped hasn't necessarily hurt donald trump. >> mark preston. 4:19 a.m. in long island. i can't remember the last time he was up at 4:19 a.m. >> brian stelter, eugene scott. stick around. we are remembering one of the great athletes of all time. arnold palmer passed away. seven major titles. his influence goes way beyond
all right. the king is gone. golfing legend arnold palmer passed away at the pittsburgh medical center. his hall of fame career was defined by the battles on the fairways with jack nicklaus. he released this statement. he transcended the game of golf. he was an icon. we were great competitors and we
were friends along the way. he was the king of our sport and always will be. tiger woods said thanks for your friendship and counsel. president obama tweeted here's to the king who was an extraordinarily on the links as he was generous to others. thanks for the memories, arnold. he didn't just change golf, he made golf accessible for the masses. he was the first corporate athlete. he was the first athlete to turn it all into a business brand with the penzoil sponsorship. he has a drink. how many people had a drink named after them? he knew how to play and knew how to work. people adored him. arnie's armies on the fairway forever. >> we wish his family well. another tragedy this weekend. high rate of speed is
believed to be the factor in the boat crash that killed miami marlins star jose fernandez. news of his death bringing don mattingly to tears. >> there is just joy with him when he played. as bad as he would make you with the stuff he would do, you seen that little kid when you see -- you watch kids play little league or something like that. that's the joy that jose played with. >> baseball just heart broken. a moment of silence observed at ballparks across the country on sunday. marlins game was canceled. >> i know so many people woke up
can you feel it? it is debate day in america. donald trump and hillary clinton on the same stage. staring each other down. nothing less than a leadership of the country, in fact, the world at stake. who will prevail? we have a full debate preview now. there's the stage. look at that. that's at hofstra university.
>> ten feet away from each other? >> they can reach out and touch each other. yikes. welcome back to "early start." i'm john berman. >> i'm christine romans. it is here. what could be the most consequential debate in the most consequential election of a lifetime. at hofstra university, donald trump and hillary clinton face-off for 90 minutes. they have that to convince voters they are right and their opponent is wrong. 90 minutes to make a case about the future. your future. america's future. yes, you might notice they don't like each other much. it is not about who slings the most mud, but who can lead the country when there are questions about race, terror and prosperity. the race here is essentially tied. we have new information about
how the candidates are preparing and who will be in the audience and what the moderator will or will not do. let's bring in brian stelter host of "reliable sources" and eugene scott. we know hillary clinton has been practicing with one of her long time friends and aides. one person playing trump. we are told that donald trump hasn't been practicing. >> i don't buy it. >> listen to a bit of donald trump with a montage of him on the primary stage. listen to that and talk about what donald trump we will see tonight. >> first of all, this guy's a choke artist and this guy's a liar. >> you're a basket case. >> this guy lied so much about my record. >> it's a matter of principle. >> you don't need a weak person states.resident of the united
you are getting beaten badly. >> i know you are embarrassed. keep swinging. keep swinging for the fences. >> i do think you will see a different donald trump. some think you will see a kellyanne conway tonight. some will say he will have a command of the issues. can he sustain that for 90 minutes? >> i think we will see tranquilizer trump early on. we will watch him go off the prompter and watch him ad lib. that is what makes him compelling television. that is what we will see over the course of the 90 minutes. the donald trump that is tame and following a script that knows what works versus the donald trump that wants to be unleashed for lack of a better word. he has great advisors like kellyanne conway and roger ailes. he is now helping trump.
he has master minds giving him very good advice. of course he is prepping for the debate. if he were not prepping, what has he been doing? >> he has off the trail yesterday. he flies the plane with no press in there. one would assume he is sitting with advisers going over questions. >> it is about lowering the bar. they tried to lower expectations below the floor of the set. >> it is incumbent upon us. come on, seriously. brian used a phrase. he said donald trump compelling television. that is what the clinton campaign is concerned about. judged about how good or bad he is for entertaining television as opposed to how much or little he is qualified to be the commander in chief. hillary clinton is going to try to make sure that that is the prism with which this is judged.
what do we know good her as a debater? >> we know she is a really measured debater. she is not easily provoked as donald trump. that is what she will do. >> she will try to provoke him? >> specifically if the kellyanne influence is working, she will say we need to ruffle this up a bit to my advantage. i will be more measured and my experience will benefit me. that is what she will do. >> she had all this practice as we have seen in 2008. clinton and obama. she had a lot of practice that trump has not. donald trump has faded in the background in the debates. he won't be able to do that today. >> is there a risk this is a celebrity popularity contest and she has good answers and meat on the bone for the policy and how
she wants to fix things and she has 30 years of working with the issues. it comes down to their style on the stage? is that a risk? >> absolutely. we saw president obama say she needs to be herself. if she is herself more people will like her and see the hillary clinton he sees. this is interesting. this is the same candidate who said you are likeable enough. it is fascinating to see how people respond to personality as opposed to policy. >> it is interesting to see the expectations. they are pressuring the news to judge the candidates equally. you have seen it from brian fallon and other aides who said the bar should be set at the same level. each candidates should be scored the same way. there might be good reasons why journalists and commentators are going in with uneven
expectations. we have seen clinton for 30 years. we have not seen trump like that. the campaign is trying to push hard for thorough fact checking. >> it is interesting. i saw a poll. in 2012, there were higher expectations for obama than romney than there are for clinton than donald trump. people thought barack obama was in favor in the first debate which he lost in the first debate over mitt romney. i think the media expectations are different than the voters. eugene, this is a bizarre weekend. having to do with who is sitting in the audience? trump threw out the thought that gennifer flowers would be in the audience. the trump campaign saying no now. >> we saw the facebook and tweet and we had to reach out to gennifer flowers people.
the thing that is interesting about it is we are going into the debate thinking donald trump was taking things seriously and hoping to do better with women voters appealing to bill clinton's marital infidelities. >> now when she is not in the audience, they can say he say tamer donald trump. >> low standard. >> stick with us. one of the weakest parts of the u.s. economy. a corporate earnings season. experts calling for the sixth straight quarter of declines. overall, s&p companies are expected to post a 2.3% drop in profits during the third quarter compared to last year. that would mark the longest so-called session since it started keeping tract. what is holding back? the strong dollar is a factor.
it makes u.s. goods more expensive. and finally some companies say higher wages are pressuring their profits. 39 minutes after the hour. protests over the police shooting in north carolina. they were largely peaceful this weekend. the issue front and center in the presidential campaign and you can imagine it will be front and center tonight on the debate stage. and tributes pouring in for arnold palmer. the legendary golfer has passed away. more on his life and legacy next. "ow..."
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stay calm. let's get the latest from nick valencia. >> reporter: john and christine, demonstrations continued over the weekend. this crowd protesting outside the nfl game with the panthers and vikings. did not disrupt the game. a thin crowd as you can see behind me. over the weekend, we saw the first police video released from the fatal shooting of keith scott. one dash cam and one body cam video released. that was the demand from the protesters. as far as what's happening on monday, protesters plan to march to city hall. they want the resignation of the mayor and the governor. the protests will continue, they say, until their demands are met. >> i want to bring back the panel to talk about the big debate tonight. >> there's a debate tonight? >> i don't know if you heard. a presidential election coming up too.
eugene scott, brian stelter and mark preston with us. i want to check in with you, mark, if you think that one issue tonight will be bigger than any other. >> reporter: wow. that is a big question. there are so many that could actually pop and have resonance. i think hillary clinton, john, will go right after donald trump on the issue of transparency. specifically trying to get him to release the taxes or better yet, try to politically make hay that he hasn't released taxes and bring in the idea of his ties with russia. on the flip side, you will see donald trump go right after hillary clinton in regards to transparency and honesty. specifically with her e-mail server and why did she do it and this is something the three of us have talked about time and time again. a lot of people get frustrated with the clintons because they believe the clintons are do as i
say, not as i do. we will see that. >> those aren't issues. those get to qualities having to do with the leadership of each candidate. i think mark is probably right. those may end up receiving more prominence than more policy issues. >> will she have a better answer on e-mails? she has to know it will come up. is she practicing for a different way to answer the e-mail question? it keeps swirling. she should say i wish i had done this. i wish i had handled it this way and go back on her record and say what she would have done differently and use that to point out and influence and instruct her leadership as president today. >> reporter: you know, let me just say this. absolutely. will she come across as somebody who is really sorry for having done it and will the american people buy it? john, to your people about
issues. i don't think the economy will pop about the big issue. the one issue that could rise up and get a lot of attention is how do you deal with isis and foreign policy. that is probably the number one issue. it basically will come down to arguments over, you know, you said this. no, no, you said that. you are not being transparent. that's what we will see tonight. >> you know, eugene, what does history tell us about how viewers watch the debates? what do viewers want to see in a candidate? >> i think what we are seeing is how diverse the electorate is and how the issues matter to them. we want people to hear more about isis and what a solution would be and detailed policies would be influence the candidate and the next presidency. we will see if the people will be self controlled and
respectful and know how to treat other people considering how divided we are right now. >> brian, two minutes to respond. donald trump, two minutes to respond. i wonder if hillary clinton will keep all of her responses two minutes and donald trump to fill two minutes. that will be fascinating. >> 15 minutes total for the six topic areas. we know the themes about prosperity and security of the country. given how polarized we are, it is hard to see 100 million people can come together and watch at same time. in the washington post, this is the first of three times the country will come together and watch the debates. one viewer said i had three dreams about the debate. i think i'm obsessed. adam, i'm with you. it is climatic. >> adam needs to get some help.
palmer died at the university of pittsburgh medical center at the age of 87. he revolutionized the game in the 1960s. his career was brought on by battles with jack nicklaus. he was an icon. we were great competitors and great friends along the way. we were always there for each other. that never changed. he was the king of our sport. and from tiger woods, thanks for your friendship and philanthropy. >> he was revered in the sport. he was the first corporate athlete as well. high rate of speed in the boat crash that killed miami marlins star jose fernandez and
two other men. he survived a defection from cuba. news of his death reduced manager don mattingly to tears. >> there's just joy with him when he played. as bad as he would make you with some of the stuff he would do, you just seen that little kid that you see when -- when you watch kids play little league or something like that. that's the joy that jose played with. >> a moment of silence observed at ballparks across the country. the marlins game was cancelled. the team will resume play today. that will be difficult for them. a man suspected of killing five people in the shooting rampage in the washington state
mall could face arraignment today. he gunned down several women at a macy's store at the cascade mall north of seattle. investigators say there is no evidence of terrorism and they are looking for connections with the suspect and victims. 57 minutes past the hour. it could be an ugly day. futures are pointing low lower. stocks in asia and europe are down. focusing on the debate, the market has not priced in a possible trump presidency. lots of folks watching for that. one stock worth watching. twitter jumping 4% friday. takeover rumors swirling on wall street. it is down in pre-market trading. two big names interested in buying twitter sales force and google. two have filed a classes
action lawsuit against wells fargo. they said they put unrelenting pressure on employees. it claims managers had a do whatever it takes attitude to reach quotas. john stumpf is still in charge of the company despite people wanting him to step down. there are others who say the ceos should have to give ba back bonuses. are you sending a kid to college next year? the free application for federal student aid is making two changes for the 2017 school year. students with submit the form as early as october 1st. it used to be january 1st. aid is awarded on a first come first serve basis. get the forms in. second, students can base financial information on the tax
year from the previous year. it makes it easier to fill out. the earlier deadline is so helpful for students. look if you are going to school and you are not starting the process until january, they need more clarity. >> they also need more money. college is expensive. "early start" continues right now. hillary clinton and donald trump. it will happen tonight. they are set to face-off in the very first presidential debate. this race is tied, folks. so this night could mean everything. we will give you the latest on how they are preparing and what you can expect on that stage. >> the podiums are preparing right now. >> they are technically lecturns. >> good morning. welcome to "early start."
i'm john berman. >> i'm christine romans. it is 5:00 a.m. in the east. what could be the most consequential election of a lifetime at hofstra university. hillary clinton and donald trump face-off on stage for 90 minutes. that is what they have to convince voters they are right and their opponent is dead wrong. 90 minutes to make a case about your future. america's future. these two candidates don't seem to like each other very much. this is not about who wins the food fight or who slings the most mud. it is who can lead the country when there are serious questions about race and prosperity and terror. we have new information this morning about how the candidates are preparing and who will be in the audience and what the moderator will and will not do.