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happening now, a bad night. hillary clinton jabbed donald trump for complaining about his defective microphone while she celebrates a great, great night. the first showdown. how will his uneven performance impact his campaign? tax and defense. donald trump tries to deflect questions that his tax returns but says not paying taxes is good business and makes him smart. even some supporters say trump doesn't have a good answer on questions about his returns. will he yield to growing pressure and release them? racist behavior. hillary clinton accuses donald trump of having, and i'm quoting, a long record of engaging in racist behavior. but trump misses a chance to change perceptions about his campaign and instead, defends controversial police practices and abruptly shuts down a conversation about birtherism
how many can he increase his weak support among mine snorts and urgent protection. 18 states now ask the federal government for help preventing cyber attacks on their voting systems, following online assaults. while hillary clinton points to russia, donald trump points the blame. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." the race for the white house opened by the historic first debate between donald trump and hillary clinton. both campaigns are now back in full swing mode but striking markedly different tones. clinton, the debate winner according to our orc poll is taking a victory lap and new swipes at donald trump who appeared thrown off by some of her debate attacks.
trump is talking about a microphone being defective. a rally is about get to underway in medical bourn, florida. we're also talking about cyber attacks disrupting the presidential election. the department of homeland security says 18 states are now asking for help securing their voting systems from potential online assaults. something that has already happened in both illinois and arizona. we're covering all of that in this hour with our guests, including the house intelligence committee. and our correspondents and our expert analysises are also standing by. let's begin with jim acosta. trump has a lot to say today about that debate. >> that's right. the trump campaign is offering evidence they say shows donald trump won last night's debate. he has raised $13 million in the
last 24 hours. when it comes to last night's performance, donald trump is pointing fingers everywhere but at himself. >> the day after his fiery debate with hillary clinton, donald trump is declaring 56th write a triumphant tweet. the number one trend on stwirt #trump won. thank you. >> it was a fascinating period of time and i think we did very well. >> but he is also making excuses, blaming a bad microphone ask more for getting in the way of his message. >> i don't want to believe in conspiracy theories but it was much lower than hers and it was crackling. and she didn't that have problem. >> coming off a night of delivering her prepared one liners, clinton had a zinger for that too. >> anybody who xlanls about their microphone is not having a good night. >> like many supporters the night after, also complained about the moderator lester holt. >> i thought he was okay. i thought he was fine. nothing outstanding. he gave me very unfair questions
at the end. >> the problem is trump -- >> i thought lesser did a great job. >> and his own campaign manager praised holt right after the debate. >> i thought he was a great moderator under tough circumstances. >> just joined the debate by saying more crazy things. >> on his refusal to release his tax returns -- >> the only years that anybody has ever seen were a couple of years when towed turn them over to state authorities, when he was trying to get a casino license and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax. so -- >> that makes me smart. >> clinton returned to the issue today in north carolina. >> then i got to that point where i said, maybe he's paid zero. emthat makes him smart. now, if not paying taxes makes him smart, what does that make all the rest us? >> on iraq, trump falsely
insisted, he opposed the war before it began. >> donald supported the invasion of iraq. >> wrong. >> that is absolutely proved over and over again. >> the trump campaign is offering different explanations for the gop contenders' past claim that climate change is a hoax created by the chinese government to hurt u.s. factories. with his campaign manager saying one thing -- >> he believes that climate change is naturally during. >> and his running mate saying another. >> there is no question that the activity that's take place in this country and in countries around the world have some impact on the environment and some impact on climate. >> now, getting back to those tax returns, donald trump did tell me in the spin room that he does pay federal income taxes but he did not respond when i asked at what rate, what. at a rate do you pay? he did not respond. rudolph giuliani was saying trump should skip the next two debates. no word if that is being
considered. i did talk on one trump adviser who. he needs is work. >> all right. over at trump tower in new york. thank you. hillary clinton is back on the campaign trail riding her debate momentum. clinton is keeping up some of the same attacks she used against donald trump in the debate. >> she is indeed. from those tax returns we just heard about to his business acum acumen. even how he treated a miss universe contestant. hillary clinton is trying to use his words against him. one senior adviser. this is the best day of the campaign since winning the primary in june. the smile on her face today seemed to indicate that was true. >> did anybody see that debate last night? >> there is a new spring in her step tonight. >> oh, yes! one down, two to go. >> flying to a rally in north carolina, hillary clinton
reveling in the strong reviews from her first face to face meeting with donald trump. >> you should know by now, when i set my mind on something, i keep going. i don't quit. whatever the static, whatever the incoming is. that's what i'll do for the american people. >> the most watched debate in history. more than 80 million on television alone. she is locked in a tight brace trump nationally and in critical battle grounds. on the campaign trail, clinton picked up where she left off. from preparing for the debate and presidency. >> he made it very clear that he didn't prepare for that debate. did i prepare. i'll tell you something else i prepared for. i prepared to be president of the united states and i think that's good. >> to her charge that he built his businesses by stiffing the little guy. stiffing people of dish washers, pagers, plumbers, architects, glass installers, marble
installerinstall e ers, drapery installers. >> but it is his treatment of women that is still reverberating. >> one of the worst things he said was about a woman in a beauty contest. he called this woman miss piggy. then he called her miss
housekeeping because she was latina. donald, she has a name. >> where did you find her? >> her name is alicia have been machado and you can bet she'll vote this november. >> alicia machado won the miss universe contest in 1996. the clinton campaign inviting her to talk. >> for me, these elections are like a bad dream. watching this guy again doing stupid things and stupid comments. >> two decades ago, trump shamed her for gaining weight. today he made to apologies.
>> she gained a massive amount of weight. and it was a real problem. >> advisers to clinton believe trump's efforts to win over independent and moderate women was set back by frequent outbursts and interruptions. >> i do not. i do not say that. >> a post debate cnn/orc poll shows 52% of viewers thought clinton won the
debate while 27% that trump did. democrats spanned out across the country to pile on trump. hoping to calm a sense of unease that has been sweeping across the party. >> did she have a good debate or what? >> for former president bill clinton in ohio to running mate tim kaine. >> and joe biden made the sharpest case. >> if this choice isn't clear, my lord. >> but with 42 days to go, and the second debate less than two weeks away, clinton made clear the fight was just beginning.
>> this election will be close. they all are these days. >> and we're getting word that president obama will be another democrat adding his help as well. even more help. he has agreed to participate and star in television commercials the clinton campaign will be airing in the final month of this race. they know that this is not a permanent dynamic. for today, at least, she'll take it. >> she certainly will. >> thank you. let's get more on this. the ranking member of the house intelligence committee. adam schiff of california. thank you for joining us. >> so hillary clinton clearly had a good night last night at the debate. she clearly also did not deliver a knockout punch. why? >> well, i think it is hard to have a knockout punch in these days that. trump is a reality tv performer. that is his medium. i think the expectations for him were altogether too low but nonetheless, he didn't even meet
those expectations. but still, that is the environment in which he is the most comfortable. eigh i think a knockout is hard to do but i think the emotion from last night will then secretary to go forward and continuing to be damaging to donald trump. he did not appear presidential. he didn't neat threshold. he displayed as he was bragging about his temperament, a lack of temperament. a lack of grasp of the issues and secretary clinton showed her command. and i think those impressions will stay. not a knockout punch but nonetheless, i think that voter attitudes will begin to gel. >> did she move the needle with voters? especially those undecided voters in the key battleground states? before the debate, more people thought trump was more honest and trustworthy. according to that poll. trump, 50%. hillary clinton, 35%. that's a big problem for her.
>> it is a challenge. and i think she did move the needle last night. we'll see in the days to come what kind of if he can or what kind of a bounce she might get. i think that she came across very well. when she laughed, when she smiled, at one particularly long and rather convoluted answer that donald trump gave. she said, boy, there's a lot packed into that and couldn't help but laugh and i thinkate people at home couldn't help but laugh with her. i think she had a great presence. i think it was up with of her best debate performances i've seen and she needs to keep it up. >> he is painting himself as the change candidate. he tweeted this. hillary has been failing for 30 years in not getting the job done. it will never change. he is painting her as the status quo. he could change things.
70% of the american public. how does she fix that image that she is status quo? >> i think anyone running in the same party as the incumbent president. but trump failed to make the case. he didn't show that he would do anything different. that he was in favor of the war iraq, he could not distinguish himself on that, he couldn't distinguish himself on libya because he had adopted himself on largely the same position on. some key issues, he couldn't say did he anything different. more than that, on the economic issues, he failed to point to anything i think that was persuasive to americans that he would do differently going forward. the most he could say when he was asked, how do you bring jobs back, well, i wouldn't have lost them in the first place. of course we're left to wonder, how is that and how would you
have prevented that in the one thing i was surprised in the trade discussion that she didn't bring out, sense of lambastes trade for the outsourcing of jobs, he's outsourced jobs in his own business. i think it is difficult with his back ground to make the case even though he is a new cominger. he didn't make it last night. >> trump largely left personal attacks out last night. but he foreshadowed what could come in round two. >> anything you wish you did differently? >> no. i'm very happy that i was able to hold back on the that indiscretions with respect to bill clinton. because i have a lot of respect for chelsea clinton. and i didn't want to say what i was going to say. >> which is? >> which is, i'll tell you maybe at the next debate. we'll see. >> so as she clearly seemed to get under his skin. will it be a different battle next time?
you heard, he's threatening to hit her harder. >> this is classic donald trump to go to the spin room after the debate and say i was going on bring up these mudslinging things. but you know the mudslinging things i am talking about so i am bringing them up but i want credit for not explicitly bringing them up. that's donald trump. like the birther thing, some people are saying, some are suggesting. he loves to campaign by negative innuen innuendo. but i think you're right. i think i think he'll be far more aggressive is that far more ugly. i think he'll be throwing kitchen sink at secretary clinton. but he has to be carroll. his biggest problem is he doesn't know when to stop. he is guilty of terrible overreach and he is very easily needled and put off. i think the comments at the beginning of the debate about how he got this $14 million whaerk considered a small loan from his father, really unnerved
him. and i think throughout the course of the evening, he became increasingly rattled. >> i need to you stay with us for a moment. we're getting some breaking news on the fbi getting information on yet another cyber attack. stay with us. we're going to update our viewers on that and we'll discuss with you. we'll be back. dust and allergens get between you and life's beautiful moments. flonase gives you more complete allergy relief. most allergy pills only control one inflammatory substance. flonase controls 6. and six is greater than one. flonase changes everything. ♪
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terror bombing. what does this new picture show us? >> what it shows is new pictures, a new angle of the face of one of these two men. they picked up this bag where a second bomb was placed on 22nd street. they took the pressure cooker out of the bag and then carried the roller bag away. we had a previous image of them in this new fbi release. now we have a new image which shows a closer look at one of the men and zeroes in on that bag itself. so more detail there. you're seeing the fbi reaching out to the public saying, have you seen these men? do you know who they are? have you even seen this bag, in effect as we know, it has been more than a week. they have not been able to find them. to a crucial question here.
i asked this of the police department chief. do they consider these men suspects? or are they witnesses? they consider them witnesses at this point but they do want to talk on them. these individuals allegedly located a piece of luggage on the sidewalk. removed an improvised explosive device, the pressure cooker bomb, and then left the vicinity, leaving it behind but taking luggage with them. that's what we're seeing here. the images shown were taken on west 27th street between sixth and seventh avenue. it continues around midtown manhattan on saturday september 17. the same night an explosive device had detonated on west 23rd street. again, the fbi is interested in speaking to these individuals and recover the luggage.
please contact the fbi's toll-free tip line. they're particularly concerned that that suitcase. they say the could be evidence. of course there could be fingerprints and evidence about the explosives used or other identifying materials for the bomb per we know about. rahami who is now in police custody or perhaps others who are involved. sending these new images at the same time. it has been more than a week now since these pictures were widely distributed. not only here but around the world. what can you tell us? why is it so difficult locating these would individuals? >> i'm surprised that we haven't identified them yet. the quality of the images that
were reloosed last week is very high. from those prior images, there are people out there who knows who these two are. we need them to come forward. it may be a fear that would it get these two individuals in trouble. i think law enforcement has made clear, they're not suspects. and they may nonetheless have inadvertently stumbled on some clues that may determine if anyone else was involved in the bombings. so there are folks who may recognize these people and they need to come forward. >> there could be finger prints or other evidence. do you have any idea where they're from? i noticed in the fbi bulletin, it says call the 800 number. it says contact nearest american embassy or consulate.
is there any thought they may be outside the united states or maybe from outside the united states? >> i think at this point we don't know. but one of the reasons that evidence may be so significant, if it has finger prints or dna on it, and those finger prints or dna match one of the other devices, that would be a sign that there are other individuals involved. when you have evidence only on one device or on a cell phone, it is much more conclusive. it could be very important evidence. we need public's help here. someone is going to recognize those people. and they need to speak up. that looks very unique. it could have potential clues where it was purchased. all that information.
they are unknown individuals. they are seen as potential witnesses to that terror attack in new york city. the breaking news we're following. there's another breaking news we're following as well. jim sciutto also reporting the fbi has asked to image as they say, image the cell felonies to some of key democratic party staffers as it investigates a possible hack of cell phones. what does that tell you? it looks to be much broader in scope. >> i can't comment on the specifics of that report but i can tell you that i am certain that if there is their isn't some pushback here, that we can expect to see a lot more of these kinds of hacks. we'll see a lot more dumping of information. and the worst fear, frankly for me is that correct they start dumping information that has been doctored. that can really wreak havoc on our system.
i'm very please that had we're working with the department of homeland security to help them with their systems. obviously there is a concern when you see foreign hackers. there isn't much foreign intelligence but there is useful information if your intent is to disrupt or sew discord. very serious business and i think we'll see more of it. i think it is important that we call out the responsible parties. that's why we released a statement. i think it was such a great indicted. last night donald trump suggested russia may not necessarily be involved on the attack on the dnc. >> i don't think anybody knows that it was russia that broke
in. she's saying russia, russia, russia. maybe it was. it could be russia or china or lots of other people of it could be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds, okay? >> so you're the ranking member of the intelligence committee. diane finestein. what is your message to donald trump? >> what i found so dushing about this, it is either just willful ignorance on mr. trump's part or he is willing to disassemble and bligh this. what is so troubling about that is that he is essentially become an apologist for the kremlin. this is perfect russian prop ganld. a they don't want be to called out on this. if they can refer to the president of the united states saying we have no idea. it could be the russians, the
chinese, a 400 pound person. if this guy weighs 400 pounds, he is sitting somewhere in russia right now. so i find this like his statements about isis that played into russian propaganda really deplorable. it is not just him. you asked about russia's connections to these attacks and similarly he was unwilling to speak. i think he has to know better and that he would surround himself, donald trump would surround himself with other people willing to speak the kremlin line is deeply disturbing. donald trump's adviser. thank you very much for joining us. just ahead, the most watched presidential debate in history. it didn't change anything for donald trump or for hillary clinton. if you're searching other travel sites to find a better price... ...stop clicking around...
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hillary clinton is the winner of the first presidential debate according to our exclusive cnn/orc poll. what does that mean going forward? back with us to talk about that and more along with cnn gloria borger. and our newest political commentator. we're also joined by the new york times national political
reporter. to all of you, thank you very much for joining us. over all, viewers felt hillary clinton came out on top. did she win over any new supporters where she needs them most to move that needle? >> well, we'll have to see the polls in about four or five days and see how it shakes out. i have to say that donald trump needed to win over those suburban women. those more undecided voters and i don't think he did anything with them last night. we had a person in our group of undecided vote here's said something that i thought was quite striking last night. which was, he said he came there prepared to listen to donald trump. and that he was insulted that trump had not done more preparation to win his vote. and so if that's any indication, i think he could have a problem.
hillary clinton's advisers, i spoke with one today who was downmaying where she might be in the polls saying this isn't going to go anywhere. we're kind of at stasis right now. i would say if she doesn't go up by a couple points or so, they will not have declared this a victory. i think it gave them a great sense of relief that she performed so well last night. she clearly came prepared with the comments about the beauty queen. >> one of the worst things he said was about a woman in a beauty contest. he loves beauty contests, supporting them and hanging around them. and he called this woman miss piggy. then he called her miss housekeeping because she is latina. >> where did you final her? >> her name is alicia machado
and she has become a u.s. citizen. you can bet she's going on vote this november. >> okay. >> trump continued along those lines this morning by saying that woman gained a massive amount of weight. his words. and once again his words, the absolute worst. so how does this go over with voters and the millennials that donald trump is trying to win over right now. >> this really continues the perception that donald trump is a mysogynist. the clinton campaign has been working hard to show that he has not respected women in the past. and there is a story now that is talking about this idea, that she was deeply scarred by this. this is not just something that happen to her and that was hurtful. this was something that followed her throughout her life. she had eating disorders because of this. the idea that voters long that donald trump not only insulted
this woman but really scarred her and changed the course of her life i don't think will play very well among women. i was sitting with a group of young republicans. he thinks he can be presidential but a lot of the times she thinks he is being juvenile and last night that was confirmed in her mind. >> this clinton attack was clearly designed to play into a narrative she's been trying on play with trump and women. she put out an ad using insulting comments about women and her campaign put out an ad high heighting machado. >> i think as gloria said, it is too early to tell. we have to wait for the polling and the debate to settle in. one thing about the debates, the instant analysis is sometimes correct but it really becomes more true and more personal after friends and family talk about what they felt about this
debate. there is a lot of evidence, anecdotal and even more than that, that there is reason to believe that it was affected. there are two reasons. one, the clinton campaign is trying on fire up the base. to get those young women who may not be as excited about her. who may be thinking about a third party candidate. but they're trying to get any independent who voted for romney in 2012. someone not necessarily thrilled with hillary clinton but not open to voting for donald trump. so i think they are open to this message. and you can almost expect, almost bet on this. you can bet they'll put money this message and have this woman in paid televisions commercials. it hand happened yet but i think it will. >> listen to what donald trump said about hillary's look.
>> she doesn't have the look. she doesn't have the stamina. i said she doesn't have the stamina. and i don't believe she has the stamina. to be president of this country, you need tremendous stamina. you have so many different things you have to be able to do. and i don't believe that hillary clinton has the stamina. >> how does that line go over with female voters? >> it doesn't go over well at all, wolf. two things about it. up in one on the issue of stamina. an effective political attack is one that sort of reinforces what people already think about a candidate. there are any number of criticisms you can make about secretary clinton but one is not that she lacks stamina. this is a woman who a week or two ago fought through a bout of pneumonia to go to the 9/11 memorial and was criticized it but plowed through her. in terms of the presidential look, you're talking about a former first lady of the united
states. a former united states senator from trump's own state. and the third ever woman secretary of state. the idea that she doesn't have a presidential look, i don't know if he's trying to say that you have to be a man in a navy blue suit. but if that's what he's trying to say, it is really not an effective is that frankly sexist way of approaching her. specially on a debate stage. >> i think a lot of women their word stamina. and they think that donald trump is calling hillary clinton weak. period. and that it may have less to do with her health issues than with him trying to portray her as somebody who is unsuitable for the office, for some reason, she is not strong enough to be president of the united states. and i think for some women, it is a code word. stay with us, stand by. we have a lot more coming up. donald trump getting ready for his first rally since the debate. these are live pictures coming
including policing, the birther conspiracy that donald trump promoted for years. david, the debate was clearly an opportunity for trump to do a better job on questions race, both to appeal to african-american voters, to assure white voters, that he is not racist, for example. on the birther issue, the stop and frisk issue. how did he do? >> he had an opportunity to clean some things up and frankly he failed. the trump campaign and donald trump have correctly identified black voters like all others are kernel with jobs and schools and violent crime. what they haven't figured out is an effective way to message to black voters. throwing stuff around saying he is the law and order candidate prox posing an institution of stop and frisk. these are nonstarters with the overwhelming majority of black voters. and we're getting close to the
point where he won't be able to walk these back or move away from them. so it was a lost opportunity. and i think it is starting to cement his difficulties with whack voters in particular. with voters of color as well. >> i want to play for you donald trump's comments. >> when i look at charlotte, the city that i love, going. on we need law and order in our country. you don't have good community relations in chicago. it's terrible. i have property there. it's terrible. >> you've been reporting there. do you have trump's answers address the grievances that you've been seeing first hand? >> the activists that i've been talking to is saying that donald
trump is not addressing the grievances. that they don't think he understands the grievances, apart from the clip you just showed. he is planning to increase stop and frisk. he's said we need more police, not less. if you keep investing in the police and empowering police, that will stop racial discrimination. something activists say is not true. the activists i've talk on, they say what they want is a disinvestment from police officers and an investment on communities. more focus job programs. they don't want the police to just be given more body cameras and that will make police look at every citizen the same and treat them fairly. they dome believe that's true. so donald trump, i should say, that donald trump is coming close to not being able to walk back his comments.
the activists i've talked, to he's gone way too far. the people i've talked to. so he might speak and might want to acknowledge african-americans in a way that's passionate sometimes. but they understand the vast majority of the time that he is not speaking in a way that could barely have african-americans trust him. >> which candidate is doing a better job proving they're the right person to handle some of these issues we've been seeing in charlotte? >> well, at this point, i think would you have to say hillary clinton. i look at the language that was used in the debate last night, wolf. hillary clinton talked about systemic
birther issue as a racist lie. when asked about race relations donald trump talked about "law & order" and talked about stop and frisk which is not -- has been deemed unconstitutional but it is also unpopular with african american voters. i think you have to give donald trump credit for trying to appeal to african american voters and also trying to appeal to those white voters who don't want to vote for somebody they believe is intolerant. but when you measure the language and you look at them side by side as we did last night, i would have to say that hillary clinton's appeal was much stronger. >> everyone, stick around. an important note to our viewers right now. tomorrow night president obama sits down with jake tapper to discuss challenges facing u.s. military veterans and his legacy as commander in chief. a cnn town hall special tomorrow night 9:00 p.m. eastern and pacific only here on cnn.
breaking news a possible cyberattack on cell phones belonging to democratic party staffers and donald trump expresses doubt about whether russia is really behind recent online assaults. >> maybe it was. could also be china or lots of other people. could also be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 4 hurnz pounds. okay. picture
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breaking news a possibly cyberattack on cell phones belonging to democratic party staffers. jim sciutto is working the story. what have you learned. >> reporter: the fbi concerned that hackers may have in addition to getting in to all the e-mails from the democratic national committee t democratic campaign congressional committee, also got into the personal electronic devices, the mobile phones of more than one democratic staffer. the investigation just beginning. tonight the fbi asking to examine the cell phones of a small number of democratic party staffers to determine if their phones have been hacked. what could be the latest in a string of cyberattacks on the democratic party. the fbi would image or essentially copy the phones in order to search for hacking evidence such as malware. investigators still probing whether this is part of the
original breech of dnc e-mails. which is widely thought to be the work of the russian government, or a new hacking attempt. this as state election authorities across the country asking washington from urgent protection from cyber attacks from abroad. >> we've been working with state election officials. local election officials. >> reporter: jay johnson saying no fewer than 18 states from come through for him. after hackers successfully penetrated voting system this is the illinois and arizona. >> efforts to get into the registration rolls. the identity of the registered voters. >> is this coming from one particular country? >> i don't believe that we have reached a determination. >> that same question along with questions about other election related hacks sparked a sharp difference of preponderanopinio
debate stage. >> there is no doubt that russia has used cyberattacks against all kinds of organizations in our country and i am deeply concerned about this. i know donald is very praise worthy of the putin but putin is playing a the tough game here. >> she's saying russia russia russia. but i don't know. maybe it was. it could be russia. but it kouls also be china. it kouls also be other people. it could also be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds. >> and investigators briefed tell cnn that russia or hackers working for russia are if most likely culprits. >> well wolf t fbi still investigating now in the democratic party bracing itself for a release from these hacks.
whether bit e-mails or documents. and wolf concern they could be authentic or even faked with enormous implications for the election campaign. >> jim sciutto. thank you very much. that's it for me. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next breaking news. donald trump about to take the stage, his first rally since facing off with hillary clinton, as he doubles down on attacking a beauty queen's weight. and hillary clinton says trump paid nothing in income taxes. is that true? and our body language expert with the victor. let's go "outfront." the breaking news. crump donald trump is about to take the stage in