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>> thank you. a pleasure. thank you and good luck, hillary. we need you! vicente fox, we appreciate it. that will do it for me, i'm poppy harlow. hillary and bernie giving it the old college try. "the lead" starts right now. many of his voters felt burned after the primary. today hillary clinton hits the campaign trail with senator bernie sanders. can he deliver young people to the polls? with less than six weeks until america votes, every minute counts and name-calling resumes after donald trump says he held back at the debate. where he took the bait about a beauty queen. plus, dying for help. bombs falling on hospitals in a city that desperately needs life-saving aid. today the united states saying it may get militarily involved to stop the suffering in aleppo, syria. welcome back to t"the lead."
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i'm jim sciutto. jamm moments ago senator bernie sanders joined clinton in a pitch to college students. try to go make sheer she shares the same visions that had millennials turning out for sanders in droves during the primaries. >> bernie's campaign energized so many young people, some of you in this crowd. [ cheers and applause ] >> and there is no group of americans who have more at stake in this election than young americans. >> let's bring in cnn's brianna keilar. if we were looking for a way to appeal to millennials, it might be paying for college education. >> it's a huge concern for young people. this is something that really drew them to bernie sanders, which is that he proposed free
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public university and college, something that hillary clinton doesn't go as far as saying, but bernie sanders is fully behind her plan and fully behind trying to get his young supporters to support her. hillary clinton tapping bernie sanders' star power yet again in new hampshire. >> this election is enormously important for the future of our country. it is imperative that we elect hillary clinton as our next president. >> reporter: she is trying to attract young voters who overwhelmingly voted for sanders in the primary, pushing her plan for free public college tuition for families earning $125,000 or less per year. >> i don't know how we got to where we are, but we are going to fix it. this is wrong. it's wrong for students. it's wrong for families, and it's wrong for our country. >> polls show some millennials are looking past clinton, way past donald trump, to third party candidates gary johnson and jill stein.
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a new bloomberg poll joshows johnson at 7%. the white house is worried is could endanger president obama's legacy. >> if you vote for someone other than hillary, or if you don't vote at all, then you are helping to elect hillary's opponent. >> reporter: first lady michelle obama rallying voters in pennsylvania. also appearing in a new ad. >> hillary will be a president our kids can look up to. >> reporter: and taking on trump. >> then, of course, there are those who questioned and continue to question for the past eight years whether my husband was even born in this country. [ boos ] >> and let me say, hurtful, deceitful questions, deliberately designed to undermine his presidency, questions that cannot be blamed on others or swept under the rug by an insincere sentence uttered at a press conference.
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>> reporter: for a third day, trump, the former owner of the miss universe pageant, is under fire for how he treated 1996 pageant winner alicia machado for gaining weight. making no apologies this week. >> she gained a massive amount of weight, and it was -- it was a real problem. >> reporter: his campaign calls machado's allegations that trump called her "miss piggy" and "mishousekeeping" unsubstantiated. she is standing by her claims about trump. >> he was really rude with me. he tried to destroy my self-esteem. now i am a voice in the latin community. that is the point. he can say whatever he wants to say. >> reporter: this is something that the clinton campaign is very much enjoying. they feel like -- that hillary clinton put the bait out there, that donald trump took it, jim, and they feel this is in the vein of kaiser khan, the gold
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star family. they think this is something that works against him, for them. and instead of talkin about, for instance, her e-mails or the clear attack line that he hasn't really been able to keep pitching, which is that she's been in public service for 30 years and she is status quo. >> it's a personal story that could last for days or weeks before the election. >> reporter: it has already. >> no question. donald trump is set to speak in minutes. since monday night he blamed the moderator and his microphone for what both republicans and democrats have called a lack luster debate performance. today the campaign is granting they want him to practice more before facing off against clinton the next time in st. louis. it remains unclear to whether mr. trump is open to being coached by his staff. they don't want him to get
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ensnared in more traps like he did monday night. to cnn's phil mattingly in council bluffs with donald trump. phil, the spat with this miss universe winner seems to be continuing, and donald trump not giving it up. >> reporter: yeah. jim, look, it's something that clearly caught him off guard on the debate stage and the well coordinated media blitz that followed set up by the hillary clinton campaign has set him on his heels. they're acknowledging that behind the scenes changes need to be made. first among the changes, try and get back on offense. donald trump back on the campaign trail and back on the attack. >> we're going to get rid of that crooked woman. >> reporter: the republican nominee trying to regain his footing after a shaky debate performance against hillary clinton monday night. sharpening his attack on the democratic nominee. >> hillary clinton, who i happen
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to believe is grossly incompetent, by the way. i just feel like she's grossly incompetent. but hillary clinton is going to increase taxes. she will be very, very bad for our country. i think it would be worse than four more years of obama. >> reporter: despite trump's repeated victory pronouncements, via debunked unscientific online polls on the campaign trail. >> and almost every single poll had us winning the debate against crooked hillary clinton, big-league. big-league. >> reporter: and repeatedly patting himself on the back for going easy on clinton during the debate, pulling his punch at the last moment about bill clinton's infidelities. >> for 90 minutes i watched her very carefully, and i was also holding back. i didn't want to do anything to embarrass her. >> reporter: trump's son, eric, praising his father's approach.
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>> i think it took a lot of courage in so many regards. i think he really answered that well and took the high ground. >> reporter: trump's advisors are quietly delivering the message to him that he didn't have a good night, and privately expressing frustration that trump missed opportunities to go after clinton. moments, they say, were missed because of trump's belief that he didn't need to rely on traditional debate preparation. but aids also telling cnn that trump and some in his inner circle believe his approach, off the cuff and impromptu, is what his supporters want. something rally-goers here in iowa today made clear they agree with. >> you go, why is it that donald trump destroyed 16 competitors who are, to one degree or another, far more advanced in the political arena than he is. you have to sit back and say what's the one thing that separates them all. it's the fact that he is the outsider. if he got rid of 16 qualified opponents on the republican side
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in the primaries and they're all establishment candidates, why would he want to change his game plan when he is against an establishment candidate on the other side? >> reporter: trump being rewarded with his biggest fund-raising haul of his entire campaign tuesday. his finance director calling the national call-day event a, quote, tremendous success. >> we had the biggest day we have ever had because of the success last night of the debate. they raised almost $18 million. >> reporter: jim, donald trump is in the midst of a post-debate swing state blitz. here in iowa in a couple of minutes. then going to wisconsin. the campaign according to one senior adviser tells me he'll unveil a sharpened and new attack message over the course of the next two events on hillary clinton. trying to tie her to wall street and sharpen the focus on what they see as clinton's corruption. it's the types of issues that donald trump failed to dig in on in the debate. trying to shift the focus and go
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back on the attack. >> phil mattingly with the trump campaign. thank you. joining me is adam kinzinger. thank you for taking the time. you have the public battle started on debate night. continuing for a couple of days with the former beauty queen lach alicia machado. is this the kind of public spat trump wants right now? >> he shouldn't want it. it's hard to read him because sometimes he just likes being in the press and being the lead story. this is not something good to be the lead story on. from a larger perspective, even just beyond the presidential race, i am worried about the health long-term of the republican party. i think it's important for the republicans to continue to brand ourselves not as, you know, the words he is saying but as people who say, look, we want an effective, efficient government, a strong foreign policy and we are an inclusive party that welcomes everybody. sometimes obviously the message of donald trump violates that. >> as i said, you are not
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supporting donald trump. did he say anything monday that changed your mind about him? >> no. look, i thought, as a lot of people say, the first 20 minutes to half hour he held his own. i disagree with him on the issue of trade, but i thought he executed that argument properly and well. talking about over-government regulation and over-government spending, i agree with all of it. seemed like after 30 minutes he went off the rails. when you talk about foreign policy, there was a lot of not over -- not overly coherent arguments made. he had an opportunity to disavow his association with vladimir putin, and he didn't do that. and i think he had a lot of opportunity to go after hillary clinton that he missed. and again, as many people have been saying, that's why you prepare for a debate. not to be scripted but to be able to know how to come back on certain things. >> i'm glad you brought up russia because i want to ask you about it. the director of the fbi on the hill today james comey all but identifying russia as being behind the series of attacks on
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the u.s. election system. today european investigation finding it was a russian missile that killed nearly 300 people shooting down the passenger jet over the ukraine. this happening as donald trump repeatedly praises vladimir putin. do you think that donald trump needs to condemn these acts by russia? >> oh, yeah. i think he has to be out front condemning these acts. the party of ronald reagan. we're the ones that, you know, with all americans, took on the soviet union and the evil empire. we stood for freedom for people who live behind the iron curtain. donald trump needs to do that. i am confused as to why he isn't. it's one thing to say you admire his leadership style. it's authoritarian. i don't admire that. it's another thing to say you wouldn't follow through on article 5 in nato, which is the reason we brought down the soviet union without firing a shot. not condemning the actions in syria. it frightens me, no matter who benefits from it, the idea of
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russia hacking into our election system and releasing e-mails and influencing our election because that's the kind of thing you read about in their old soviet satellite states they used to that. >> you heard him in the debate again question that russia is behind these attacks. when -- i speak to intelligence officials, you get better briefings than me and now you have the public statements. this is a broad view that it's coming from russia. and i presume that in donald trump's intelligence briefings he is hearing the same thing. >> he may be. i can tell you the military community, the intelligence community, the reason more of them are speaking out now is because they feel this isn't a message that's necessarily coming through the administration. you don't hear the administration talking about the russian nuisances they should be. you are seeing the segments of government who understand this trying to go about it in a different way. people understand as terrible as isis is and we have to destroy them, russia is a big threat on the national scene to stability
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for our allies and everything else. >> while this is happening you have the u.s. secretary of state john kerry continuing to hold out hope for peace talks. this follows even this strike on a humanitarian aid convoy which the u.s. said was russians, in the midst of what was supposed to be a ceasefire. this is a statement from senators lindsey graham and john mccain. they said secretary of state john not delusional kerry made the one threat the russians feared most the suspension of the bilateral talks about syria. th no more joint press conferences in moscow. we can only imagine that vladimir putin has called off his bear hunt and is rushing back to the kremlin to call off air strikes, hospitals, schools. >> is he being delusional? >> absolutely. when the last ceasefire came in
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i said, this isn't going to last long. we've been here before. you cannot effect a ceasefire with the russians or with the regime of assad without an or else. we need a ceasefire or else this is is what's going to happen. not or else we're going to put you in time-out which is what's happening. if russia thinks they can push the united states around as they have been they'll continue to push until they find some type of a wall. they haven't hit the wall yet. >> thank you adam kinzinger. congress delivering a blow to president obama when members of both parties actually worked together this time. that's right after this.
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welcome back to "the lead." the national lead. live pictures of the commander in chief right now thanking u.s. troops at the fort lee military base in virginia. this comes after a major blow to his administration today on capitol hill. for the first time in his two terms, the house and the senate, with overwhelming bipartisan support -- you heard that, bipartisan support -- voted to override his veto of a bill
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allowing the families of 9/11 to sue saudi arabi for the involvement of alleged officials in the 9/11 attacks. let's get to cnn's michelle kosinski who is with the president. how is the white house responding to this literally unprecedented veto override? >> reporter: so often they call for a bipartisan cooperation in congress. almost every day we hear them say that. well, this is the kind of cooperation the president does not want. you can say they didn't so much hand him this veto as they figuratively slammed it down on the table and shoved it back at him. this was overwhelming. only one member of the senate voted to scene his veto. that was senator harry reid. he had been lobbied directly by president obama. it was overwhelming support for the override also in the house. it gives you a sense of the
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emotion surrounding this issue, and the white house has also used some emotional language over the past few days, speaking out vehemently in favor of vetoing this bill. why it sets a dangerous precedent. today the white house took it a step further in their language. after it was overridden. they called this the most embarrassing thing the senate has done since 1983, referring to a prior veto of another bill. that sparked what has been described as fury on capitol hill with one aide calling it amateur hour at the white house. senator acrochris coons saying asking us to stand between 9/11 families and their day in court is a lot to ask. >> president, clearly, of course only has four more months left in office. he'll leave with two wars that he wanted to end in afghanistan and iraq.
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what message is he sending to troops today? >> reporter: as he spoke to troops, he wanted to thank them. that was how the white house was framing this visit. but he also wants to really make a case for his foreign policy. he has had a very difficult relationship with the military over his years. i mean, there has been disagreement even within the military over his time line for withdrawing troops from afghanistan. over his policies on changing the culture of the military. and now over how best to fight isis. so you'll hear when you watch this extremely interesting town hall tonight how he answers those questions directly, jim. >> michelle kosinski with the president. thank you very much. as we mentioned, tonight you can watch a special cnn town hall with president barack obama. the president joining cnn's jake tapper as well as an audience made up of active duty service members, veterans and those from the military community in fort
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lee, virginia, the home, that is, of the combined armed support command. let's bring in the guy who usually sits in this chair. jake tapper. whenever you see the president with the troops, he clearly takes the role very seriously and emotionally. was it an emotional interaction today? >> reporter: there were real moments of emotion. absolutely. one of the things we wanted to do with this town hall has have troops and veterans and their families ask questions directly to the commander in chief that are in some cases uncomfortable questions, to be honest. it's kind of the thing -- a thing you really would see in no other country that i can imagine, maybe in the uk. really just a purely american thing, that you would have a humble woman of modest circumstances whose husband served and died, and she had a question about why is it that the military still has this problem of post traumatic stress and soldiers who feel ashamed
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and soldiers who feel like they can't admit it, and putting that question to the president. we had other moments of individuals who lost family members asking other tough questions. and then there were moments of, i don't know how many military people you have on your facebook page, but i follow -- i have a bunch of friends that are in the military or military families. one of the things they regularly ask about or sound off about is about colin kaepernick, taking a knee during the national anthem. that was a question that was asked today. why doesn't president obama more eagerly use the term radical islamic terrorism. that was a question that was asked. i think it was very representative of the concerns of members of the military, veterans and their families, jim. >> it's remarkable. face-to-face with the president, a chance to ask those questions. it will be great to watch, jake. thanks very much. tune in to cnn tonight for the exclusive town hall with
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president obama at fort lee, virginia, moderated by jake tapper. it all gets started at 9:00 eastern time. it is one of the most important and daunting powers of the presidency, control of america's nuclear arsenal. so why doesn't donald trump have a concise, clear-cut answer when it comes to his own nuclear policy? that's right after this. ♪ if you have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis, isn't it time to let the real you shine through? introducing otezla (apremilast). otezla is not an injection or a cream.
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. welcome back. it is clear that donald trump is unclear on what he would do with nuclear arms. as we saw a couple nights ago at the first presidential debate, the republican candidate contradicted himself within seconds on the crucial nuclear weapons issue. here is our attempt to decipher
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trump's stance on nuclear armament. >> would he? >> i can't take anything off the table. >> or wouldn't he? >> i would certainly not do first strike. >> when it comes to ordering a nuclear war as president, donald trump seems undecided at best. >> his cavalier attitude about nuclear weapons is so deeply troubling, that is the number one threat we face in the world. a man who can be provoked by a tweet should not have his fingers anywhere near the nuclear codes. >> secretary clinton has made trump's confusing public statements regarding the world's most frightening weapons a key part of her attacks. >> he is very loose in his talk about nukes. >> the republican nominee had a chance to clarify his position monday night. >> president obama reportedly considered changing the nation's long-standing policy on first use. do you support the current policy? mr. trump, you have two minutes on that. >> i have to say that for what
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secretary clinton was saying about nuclear with russia, she is very cavalier in the way she talks about various countries. we are not keeping up with other countries. i would like everybody to end it, just get rid of it, but i would certainly not do first strike. >> certainly not, he said. but he contradicted himself just one line later. >> i think that, once the nuclear alternative happens, it's over. at the same time, we have to be prepared. i can't take anything off the table. >> last december he appeared stumped on the nation's nuclear triad, its nuclear weapons delivered by missiles, bombers and submarines. >> the three legs of the triad? do you have a priority? >> to me nuclear is just the power, the devastation, is very important to me. >> as for someone a bit closer to the nuclear codes, defense secretary ash carter said the priority is defense. this as he announced $108 billion in new funding for the triad over the next five years.
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>> your job is to make a deterrent so strong, so effective, so reliable, that no one can doubt that the american deterrent is strong. >> heading into election day, one of the most fundamental decisions for voters is which candidate they trust to wield the world's most devastating military weapon. my next guest says that donald trump does not have enough knowledge of nuclear weapons and the danger they pose to the world. that's right after this.
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confr . welcome back to "the lead." this is rudy giuliani speaking live at this trump event in council bluffs, iowa. he'll introduce republican nominee donald trump and will
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bring trump's remarks to you live when he steps up to the podium. i want to get to our panel today, rebecca burg. a cnn analyst and professional reporter. david drucker, senior congressional correspondent at the washington examiner and josh rogan a columnist at the "washington post." josh, i'll start to you. specifically to trump's response to one of the most sensitive foreign policy issues in the world right now. he was asked about your own reporting. if he supported the current policy that president obama, as you know, considered changing that the u.s. could use nuclear weapons in a first strike situation. here was trump's answer at the debate. >> but i would certainly not do first strike. i think that, once the nuclear alternative happens, it's over. at the same time, we have to be prepared. i can't take anything off the table. >> that's clearly a contradiction. i certainly would not do it, but i can't take anything off the table. you have written that you don't
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think trump actually understands the seriousness of this threat. >> right. this is a complicated policy that he was on both sides of in the same sound bite. if it was an isolated incident we could say he misunderstood the question but this is by my count the tenth time trump has said something about nuclear weapons policy that didn't make sense. it shows the theory that he would study up on the issues, that he had senior advisers around him that would make sure he knew what he's doing by this point, he hasn't learned it. he hasn't studied it. he said in the debate this is the most important, most important national security threat facing the country, yet he isn't curious enough to figure it out. that tells us more than anything he specifically said. >> paul ryan weighed in on his debate performance and he said that lack of preparation hurt
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him. here is what paul ryan had to say. >> the lesson i try to pull into this campaign which is, have a more coherent, specific agenda so that people can sink their teeth into it, so they know they're not just voting for a personality but they're causing for a cause, an agenda. solutions. >> he didn't mention trump's name but it seemed pretty clear who he was talking about. trump's co-chair said voters don't care about policy specifics. who is right here? >> there may be some truth, unfortunately to what clovis had to say. it doesn't mean if you're running for president you shouldn't address policy issues. there are voters who do care and it's a central part of the job as president to form policy for the country. so there is an expectation, certainly, that you would know what you're talking about on the most important policy issues of the day. we are starting to hear republican amp up the pressure on donald trump right now to start preparing for the second debate. if he missed an opportunity in the first one, and many republicans agree that he did, even if donald trump says he
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won, there is, you know, there are two more debates to go, and he can certainly come back and log a better performance moving forward. so lindsey graham today, for example, came out and said, he needs to start preparing better for these debates. >> david, i feel like we ask this question at every chapter of this presidential campaign. well, after the primaries, he's going to dig deeper. after the convention. after this flub. now after the debate. he has the advisers around him, but it doesn't seem he is listening to them on the preparation issue. will it change now? >> no. i think what we've learned over time is that the candidate that you see on the campaign trail is the candidate that you get, whether they win or they lose. if donald trump hasn't studied up on these issues yet, he's not going to start now, just about 30 days before an election where he has a chance to win. it's not like he's ten points behind and he better do something radically different from his point of view. what's interesting here on foreign policy is on one hand he
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is incoherent and all over the map discussing it, but there is a sort of undercurrent, a theme to his foreign policy. that is less u.s. involvement in the world and a willingness to question whether the u.s. should continue to be the global guarantor of world peace as it has been since world war ii. this is something we've not seen from either party since then, and i think trump, as president, could be a major change in how the u.s. acts around the world. >> listen, that's a line of argument. that's something that is supported by some members of the party. but josh, have you heard him articulate that line of argument beyond a line here or there? >> when trump reads his foreign policy speeches from the teleprompter they make sense. somebody went through them. it's exactly as david said. it's a drastic change in u.s. foreign policy. it's not where the republican party is at large. but it's an arguable position. it's not crazy. it's only when he is not reading from a sheet of paper or a
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teleprompter that he reveals that he doesn't actually know the issues and he says crazy stuff like we're going to take the oil. we're going to bomb the s out of them. these show we have a major party candidate who doesn't know the issues but people in other countries hear these things and make calculations based on the probability that he could become president. >> rebecca, another result of the debate is we appear to have a running battle between donald trump and lachalicia machado. he doubled down on his comments today saying she did gain weight. before i let you answer, this is what he said on cnn about this. >> he was really aggressive. he was really rude. we can't accept, we can't accept more insults for my latin
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community. no more. no more insults for the women. >> so we've heard a lot about how trump needs to appeal to suburban women, to win some of those undecided independent voters. how much does this hurt him with them? >> well, it certainly does not help. i think the clinton campaign calculated that he would take the bait in the debate setting and he would also continue to take the bait moving forward in interviews. and they calculated correctly. donald trump really just stumbling over himself here. there is no need to be starting these arguments with just weeks to go until election day, but donald trump tends to do this. and it does matter. for example, i was just up in pennsylvania on debate day, and i spoke with an undecided woman voter, an older woman, about 60 years old. she was telling me that she has voted republican for her entire life, wants to be able to
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support donald trump but it's specifically his comments on women that have turned her off. having him in this sort of conversation right now will not help him with voters like that. >> we'll go to this event now in iowa because donald trump has now taken the stage. let's listen to what he has to say. >> i want to thank you. before we begin, i have a special friend right here, who lost her incredible daughter to an illegal immigrant, and she was in the back and i said, you have to come. michelle, please come up. michelle. come up. this is a special woman, an amazing, an amazing woman. >> i just wanted to say thank you, everybody, for turning out for mr. trump. hillary called me -- >> we see donald trump carry a woman -- bring a woman to the stage, says she lost someone to an illegal immigrant. we'll keep watching donald
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trump's speech there and we'll monitor. i want to go back to the panel now. josh, long-time republican. i want your thoughts as well, david. john warner. former senator, an icon of the republican party, particularly in his strength in foreign policy issues. coming out to say he's going to vote for hillary clinton. >> no one should have the audacity to stand up and degrade the purple heart, degrade military families, or talk about the military being in a state of disaster. that's wrong! [ applause ] >> david, he said this is the first time he will ever vote for a democrat for president. i am curious, how much of an impact do big-name republican endorsements for the democratic candidate make? >> usually they don't matter that much, however, for republicans like the voter that rebecca was talking to up in pennsylvania who are trying to figure out what to do and wondering, is it okay for me to
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vote for hillary clinton, if i just can't get there with donald trump, having other long-time republicans like john for a democrat for president for the first time ever in his life can make it okay for them to do the same thing. it creates a permission structure. that's why hillary clinton's campaign didn't just accept john warner's endorsement but highlighted it and why tim kaine was there to accept it. >> josh, david, rebecca, thank you very much for joining us. we'll keep an eye on donald trump speaking to voters in iowa. we'll be right back after this. >> here i am working harder than ever before. i am like a lot of people in the different rooms -- polyp. be insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. be it could help you with out-of-pocket medical costs. call now and request your free decision guide and explore the range of aarp medicare supplement plans.
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welcome back to "the lead." this is donald trump speaking live in council bluffs, iowa. right now he is laying into the democratic presidential candidate hillary clinton. let's listen. >> -- the office of secretary of state by putting it up for sale. if she ever got the chance, she would put the oval office up for sale too, and nobody has any doubt about it. and we can't let that happen. that's why you have to go out
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and vote on november 8th. and early voting in iowa starts tomorrow. get out. don't take a chance. don't take a chance. do not take a chance. she deleted and bleached 33,000 e-mails. nobody ever heard of the bleaching. nobody ever heard of it. they don't use it. it's a very expensive process. people don't use it. but she used it. and nobody understands how she can get a congressional subpoena, she gets the subpoena. this didn't happen before the subpoena. she gets the subpoena, and she then goes out and she deletes 33,000 e-mails. you know, if somebody sues you and they want your records and you do that, as a private
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citizen, it's -- you know where you go. she gets a congressional subpoena, and i am so disappointed with the people in washington for allowing her to get away with this. i am so disappointed. and that means on both sides, by the way. i am so disappointed. when they say there is nothing they can do. there's nothing they can do? she gets rid of 13 phones. how many people have gotten rid of 13 phones? and how many people -- one hand. what business are you in? what's your business? i think he was just a wise guy. that's all. but she destroyed a number of them with a hammer. how many people have destroyed an iphone or a phone with a hammer? anybody in the room? couple of hands go up. i don't know if they're kidding. i think they're kidding, but who
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knows. her staffers taking the fifth amendment. how about that? and her ring-leaders getting immunity. she has people taking the fifth amendment. four people plus the guy who illegally did the server. he put in the illegal server. so there are five people taking the fifth amendment, like you see on the mob, right? you see the mob takes the fifth. if you're innocent, why are you taking the fifth amendment? and then they read a whole list of charges. she is guilty on every one of them. then what do they say but, that's okay. and yet other people that have done 2% of what she did, their lives have been destroyed. you tell me. you tell me what's going on with our country, what's going on with our government. foreign enemies, with easy access to hack her server, lies
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to congress under oath about turning over her work-related e-mails, which are largely destroyed, although i have a feeling they can get e-mails. you know, i have always heard you really can't destroy e-mails. i don't think they tried too hard to get them. do you? does anybody think? i don't think they tried too hard. the clintons have perfected the politics of profit. but more importantly, when you look at what's happening, i think it has more to do with other things. large cooperations who support terrible trade deals. and offshore jobs. >> >> you've been listening to donald trump. we'll keep an eye on the trump rally. meanwhile, we'll be back after this short break. ♪
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welcome back to "the lead." in our national lead now, the fbi says it believes it has
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identified two men wanted for questioning in a series of bombs planted in new york and new jersey. these men are considered, i should say, witnesses in this case. the fbi says surveillance video shows them removing a pressure cooker bomb from a bag in manhattan, then walking away with that bag. investigators think the men were tourists visiting new york from another country. they are now working with partners overseas to find and contact them. this comes after the capture of ahmad khan rahami, he is suspected of planting that series of bombs across the new york and new jersey area. one blast in chelsea left over 30 people hurt. rahami still unconscious in the hospital after a shootout with police last week as he was captured. a judge with formally ara rain m on the charges when his condition improves. tune in tonight on cnn for the
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exclusive town hall with president obama moderated by jake tapper. it will be great. it all starts at 9:00 eastern time. that's it for "the lead." i'm jim sciutto in for jake tapper. i turn you over to the very capable hands of wolf blitzer in "the situation room." happening now. not an apprenticeship. michelle obama hits the campaign trail for hillary clinton and warns donald trump that being president is not anything like reality tv. the first lady slams trump for his birther campaign and what she calls his cruel and insulting comments about women. food fight. trump goes after a former beauty queen who says he publicly shamed her for gaining weight. with aides worried about the next debate, is trump's campaign getting side-tracked. two children and a teacher shot in an elementary school in south carolina. the suspected gunman, a teenager. what was he doing in the school and how much worse could the attack have been? putin pr

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