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breathtaking. what we have heard is the ground opening up under the republican party. a parade of people, they mentioned hugely influential, joe heck's comments were interesting. he was trying to be as he could be, but he was heckled by others in the crowd. donald trump continues to have a strong following, people inclined to not shrug it off, but put it in context with other things. the republican party has to wrestle with it. one thing heck said that was very correct and is going to come back is not just the tape that surfaced, but a pattern of behavio behavior. i looked this up. you know, over the 1990s and the early 2000s, we know donald trump has more than a dozen conversations on the air with howard stern and talked about women and who was a ten and who we would sleep with and who he
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thought was most attractive. it's not just this tape and this issue that is coming to haunt both trump, jeopardizing his candidacy to challenge the republican party itself on how they are going to handle this crisis, this moment, the candidacy and how to put humpty dumpty back together again. it's all playing out in front of us. >> all right, frank, sunlen, manu, stick around. the next hour begins now. hello again and thank you so much for joining me. i'm fredricka whitfield live from washington university in st. louis, missouri the site of tomorrow night's presidential debate here on cnn. we begin with what everyone is talking about. can donald trump survive the fallout from that 2005 video where he made lewd and sexually
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illicit comments about women? trump says, yes, telling the wall street journal, there is zero chance i will quit. we'll talk to the reporter who spoke to trump in a moment. a source telling cnn there is growing pressure on the rnc to dump trump. a top rnc official tells cnn, it's unrealistic and risky to besiege 50 simpbt secretaries of state to change ballots or pursue write-in efforts. we are stuck and so is pence. calls for dumping trump coming hours after trump was caught on video making sexually explicit and vulgar comments toward women. his microphone was on during an unaired taping of ""access hollywoo hollywood", in 2005. it is extremely graphic. >> i moved on her and i failed. i'll admit it. >> whoa.
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>> i did join [ bleep ] she was married. i moved on her very heavily. in fact, i took her furniture shopping. she wanted to get furniture. i said i'll show you where they have nice furniture. i moved on her like a --. i couldn't get there. she was married. then i see her with the phony blood pressure and everything. >> she's hot as -- in the purple. yes, the donald is good. oh, my man. wait, you have to look. >> maybe it's a different one. >> better not be. that's her with the gold. i better eat tic tac's in case i start kissing her. i'm automatically magnetic. when you are a star, you can do whatever you want. grab them by the dlsh.
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you can do anything. >> the legs, all i can see are the legs. look good. >> come on shorty. >> nice legs. go ahead. it's good if you don't fall out of the bus, like ford, gerald ford, remember. >> down below. pull the handle. >> hello, how are you? hi? >> how are you? >> terrific. terrific. you know billy bush. >> how are you? >> very well. >> are you ready to be a soap star? >> make me a soap star. >> have a hug for the donald. >> melania said this was okay. there we go. excellent. >> well you have a nice co-star here. >> yes, absolutely. >> come on billy, don't be shy. when a beautiful woman shows up, he takes off. >> sorry, come here.
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>> let the little guy in. >> yeah, let the little guy in. >> it's hard to walk next to a guy like this. >> you get in the middle. >> this is much better. >> that's better. >> if you had to choose between one of us, me or the donald? >> that's self-competition. >> if you had to pick one of us as a date. >> i have to take the fifth on that one. i'll take both. >> which way? >> make a right. >> here we go. ou eem going to leave you here. >> okay. oh, you're finished? >> yeah. >> oh, good. >> i'm going to do my show. >> trump did respond by posting a defiant apology on facebook. >> i've never said i'm a perfect person nor pretended to be someone i'm not. i've said and done things i regret and the words released today on this decade old video are one of them. anyone who knows me knows these words don't reflect who i am.
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i said it, i was wrong and i apologize. i travel the country talking about change for america but my travels have also changed me. i've spent time with grieving mothers who've lost their children, laid-off workers whose jobs have gone to other countries and people from all walks of life who just want a better future. i have gotten to know the great people of our country and i've been humbled by the faith they placed in me. i pledge to be a better man tomorrow and will never, ever let you down. let's be honest. we're living in the real world. this is nothing more than a distraction from the important issues we're facing today. we're losing our jobs. we're less safe than we were eight years ago and washington is totally broken. hillary clinton and her kind have run our country into the ground. i've said some foolish things but there's a big difference between the words and actions of other people. bill clinton has actually abused
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women and hillary has bullied, attacked, shamed and intimidated his victims. we will discuss this more in the coming days. see you at the debate on sunday. a short time ago, we learned vice presidential candidate, mike pence pulled out of a rally in wisconsin held by paul ryan. we just got a statement from him saying, quote, as a husband and father, i was offended by the words and actions described by donald trump in the 11-year-old video released yesterday. i do not condone his remarks. i am grateful he expressed remorse and apologized to the american people. we pray for his family and look forward to the opportunity he thooz show what is in his heart when he goes before the nation tomorrow night. end goat. that from mike pence, donald trump's running mate. this ripple effect of all of
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this is felt all across the country. we have it all covered for you senior politics reporter, manu raju, sunlen and phil mattingly are joining us. i want to bring in monica lang lee, the wall street journal reporter that spoke to donald trump. trump told you, we understand, saying, quote, the support i'm getting is unbelievable. tell me more about what he told you and why he believes he's staying in this race. >> hi, glad to be with you. i called him this morning in his residence at trump tower. i said, you know, i have to talk to you because, clearly, the campaign is in crisis. he said just the opposite, monica. he said the campaign isn't in crisis. the support i'm getting is unbelievable. i acted surprised, of course. i said how can that be?
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he said it's because hillary clinton is a horribly flawed candidate. people don't want to support her. so, i said well, there's so many republicans now coming out against you. and i said they want you to quit. and he said there's zero chance i'll quit. i said, you know, really, you are getting a lot of pressure. he said you know me, i'm never, ever give up. which is true. i mean he never, ever gives up. you know, then he talked about how there have been so many times during the campaign when he's made these controversial statements. you and i have all covered them. he ends up going up in the polls. i don't know if he is misguided or going to be accurate that he may not be in crisis or may go up. we'll see.
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>> huh. so, in your conversation with him, he doesn't -- it doesn't appear as though he is in crisis mode. he is moving forward, preparing or looking forward to the debate tomorrow night. did he tell you anything about whether he will rephrase his apology that was released last night that is receiving criticism within the gop, which people say within the gop it's not contrite enough. did you have that kind of conversation about whether he needs to say more or whether he needs to redress his apology? >> caller: in the conversation with me, he did not discuss going further in the apology. actually, he was a little more on the offense. what he said to me is, go behind closed doors of the holier than thou politicians and pundits and see what they are saying.
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i look like a baby, he said. he was on the offense. he wasn't being apologetic when he spoke to me. >> hmm. and -- is he -- did he say anything to you about what this has done to the campaign? how his advisers are responding? what they are telling him? how his family, his sons, his daughter, what they are saying to him in light of this release of the 2005 video? >> caller: well, of course, he talks about all the support he's getting, all the e-mails, his phone is ringing off the hook. but, you know what i asked him? i have been covering him for more than a year. i have traveled with him on the plane. i have been -- i was just in the campaign headquarters this past friday. i do know the family. i specifically asked him what has been the reaction to the two women with whom you are closest, your wife, melania and your
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daughter ivanka? how are they taking the latest leak in your comments? here is what he said. i was with with ivanka yesterday. i'm with melania now. they fully understand and they are very loyal. those were his comments. then i said how do you think -- >> do you elaborate on what they understand? go ahead. >> caller: here is what he said further. i said how do you think, you know, the american public, if they fully understand. do you think the american public and women understand? here is what he said. people get it. they get life. >> so, he is in his own world, that's what it sounds like -- >> caller: basically, he expects that people understand him. that he, as he said last night, you know, people understand
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that's the kind of person that he has been, that he may not be that person anymore, that he is going to be a better man, i think that's what he said last night. we saw the statement from his running mate mike pence today, where he said he was offended and will pray for donald trump's family. i actually traveled with mike pence last week and i can tell you, being on the plane with him, he was with his -- mike pence was with his wife of 31 years and one of his three children, a daughter. it is -- his wife sits with him. they come and go on to events holding hands. i mean, it is clear that mike pence is a very strong christian
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person and i can see how this kind of comment, the comments that were leaked would be offensive to him. so, i do not know what he will be advising trump to say today, but, and tomorrow at the debate. i did bring up to donald trump in my phone call, i said how are you going to handle preparing for the debate. he said i am studying and working on the debate. i said exactly how are you preparing? he said you know, i don't like to talk about that. i said what is it, how are you going to make your case? what are you going to do? he goes back to what he says all the time. he didn't threaten about the clinton relationship as he did last night in his apology. what he said is, if you want to make america great again, vote for me. if you want four more years of obama, the failed obamacare, open borders and horrible trade deals, vote for hillary.
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>> hmm. so, monica, it's extraordinary your conversation with him. it sounds like you touched all the bases and sounds like, based ton responses you are giving us from him, that he is essentially, he's in his own world. he sees this through a different lens. you said, he says people get it, meaning they understand that that behavior, those words demonstrating the 2005 video tape come with the territory in his world. am i hearing you right that in your conversation with him about preparations tomorrow, he does not plan, he doesn't have some plan on how he's going to better address this. >> you know, we did not get into that specifically. when i said how are you preparing, are you preparing and his answer was, yes i am preparing and studying.
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he would not offer specifics. he said, but my focus is on how hillary clinton is four more years of obama and went into the main themes that have carried him to win the gop nomination. obamacare, open borders, immigration, the horrible trade deals and how he would bring jobs. however, he did not say how i'm getting into bill clinton but he didn't say i am getting into it. he didn't address it. that's something the campaign will be focused on today and tomorrow. he also mentioned, by the way, he wants to make a speech tonight. he's looking for -- if they can pull it off, he wants to give a speech tonight. he says he's got a lot of support, even though so many of the big republicans are now, you know, the establish republicans are coming out against him. there's an avalanche of them coming out saying they are no longer endorsing him or
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criticizing. >> is that like a dress rehearsal? is he seeing that as a dress rehearsal or that pumps him up with support to feel more mentally fit going into tomorrow's debate? >> i think it's not a dress rehearsal for tomorrow's debate. tomorrow's debate is a town hall format. it would not be a dress rehearsal for that. it's a way for him to get out positive themes, a different video from what everybody keeps watching. he wants to go out and show people, he has support and enthusiastic supporters. to be honest, in some ways, having all these establishment republicans come out against him fires up his base. his base belief that the establishment is what got them where they are. his base, which is largely a lot of, you know, blue collar americans and people who fill they are worse off than when president obama came in, they
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believe he is going to turn it around for them. you know what he said when i said all these republicans are pulling their support for you. he said that's why they don't win presidential elections. he said they don't understand the american people. he has been saying this week, i am the underdog. so, the american people are underdogs. our country is an underdog. i was talking, you know, to the campaign when i was at the headquarters friday. i mean, after his very, you know, uneven say, perhaps bad debate performance with hillary, now he knows he is not in the driver's seat and he has to come back. he is attempting to position himself as a comeback and clearly, he wants to show that he is on the side of the american people who feel like they want to come back. so, having the establishment come out against him today over this, he's trying to show they have always been against me and i don't care.
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>> okay. monica langley of the wall street journal, your conversation came before this mike pence, donald trump's running mate statement where mike pence says as a husband and father, i was offended by the words and actions of trump. in the 11-year-old video released, i do not condone the remarks. i am grateful he apologized to the american people. we pray for the family and look forward to the opportunity for him to show what is in his heart tomorrow night. your conversation happened before the release of this statement, correct, monica? >> caller: a couple hours before this came out. >> okay. all right. monica langley thanks so much. your conversation earlier today with donald trump. we are hearing from another prominent republican senator calling for donald trump to
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welcome back, i'm fredricka whitfield in st. louis, missouri where we understand in new york and you are seeing pictures there outside of trump tower earlier today, rudy giuliani and kelly ann conway going inside trump tower, not saying anything. of course being littered with a litany of questions from reporters. inside we understand donald trump is with his closest advisers there, trying to come up with their plan for the rest of the day in light of that 2005 video that was revealed showing donald trump using explicit, offensive language about women. we understand from various sources that donald trump wants to appear before a group of supporters this evening, a day ahead of the second presidential debate to take place on this campus, washington university, st. louis tomorrow.
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our phil mattingly is outside trump tower. phil, besides seeing rudy giuliani, kelly ann conway enter trump tower, have you seen any other activity involving his advisers? >> reporter: we saw chris christie walk in. that's the team. this is the inner circle that's been working with trump. it's the group that's been closest to him other than his kids up to the point. they are still with him now. others are in the midst of a mass exodus. rudy giuliani asked if trump should be asked to step down. he shook his head no. we have been asking what is the next step? this is the team that is going to deal with the issue for donald trump. fred, there's no real, clear answer to what that is. you stau mike pence statement and leadership members are leaving. these are the folks that have to
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figure out ut going forward. that's what they are trying to do now, fred. >> okay. anything more about possibly donald trump appearing before a group of people, his supporters this evening, perhaps to either test the waters, we just talked to the wall street journal reporter who expressed in a conversation with donald trump, that's what he wants to do this evening a day ahead of the debate or the town hall. >> reporter: there are preparations being made for something. whether that turns into something, whether it actually happens is still a very open question. obviously donald trump made clear in the wall street journal and "washington post" interview, it's something he thinks he needs to do. we need to pay very close attention to the next couple hours, fred, as his advisers get in there. they are trying to map out a path forward. one of the biggest problems they have had for the entirety of the campaign and the general election, they have ideas, pathways forward and road maps.
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if donald trump does not want to pursue those ideas, they don't happen. clearly, donald trump is intrigued by the idea of doing something tonight. behind the scenes, something is in the works. >> phil mattingly outside trump tower, thank you so much. we eem check in with you. up next, how will trump's vulgar words play at tomorrow night's debate? we'll discuss after this. when i have a headache,
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hello, again. thank you so much for joining me. i'm fredricka whitfield at the site of tomorrow night's presidential debate. with me is manu raju and sunlen. we have a lot to talk about. you heard my conversation with monica at the wall street journal, langley and talked about her conversation with donald trump. she picked up the phone and called him. she says he is defiant and positioning for a comeback. they did not discuss what he will say during the debate tomorrow, the town hall style debate tomorrow, but he did want to be in front of an audience this evening, kind of as a prelude to pump up his confidence the way she put it. >> defiance is actually not what
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republicans want to hear right now, especially after crude and insensitive comments that have blown up the campaign. we are witnessing the implosion of the republican party ticket in front of our eyes. i mean, republican after republican are abandoning donald trump over these comments, this leaked video and donald trump is digging in. he's saying "the washington post" is firing up. he's not saying his apology last night, which was an apology at first, then defiant and dismissive. >> the list is long. we are talking joe heck, kelly ayotte, carley fiorina, john foon. >> that is really csignificant. he is the highest leader in congress to call on donald trump to quit the race. he sent a tweet saying the
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republican party should nominate mike pence and donald trump should step aside. very significant. a member of the inner circle calling on him to quit is a very, very significant move. it's gotten a lot of attention today and shows how much of a liability republicans see. right now, they are in self-preservation mode. they want to save congress and they are worried about donald trump. >> it's interesting you use the word self-preservation, that's the gop. when you talk to monica langley, this is for donald trump. he is not a quitter. he reminded her getting to this point was without a lot of gop support, so why does he need it now? >> absolutely. that was the most fascinating part of the interview with monica langley that spoke to trump. he was detached from the reality of what's going on around him whether it's a public thing saying no, no, no, i have all
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the support. certainly, there is a snowball, an avalanche that is swirling around him. the fact that he would tell her, one, that, you know, american support, people support me. they like who i am. that reminds me of -- >> people get it. >> right, people get it. that reminds me of something trump advisers said early in the campaign, this is trump being trump. at this base, seems well, more down the field than let trump be trump. this is something that he needs to do more than say this is my personality. >> in mike pence's statement, so significant. coming out, not appearing in an event in wisconsin that he was supposed to appear at with the house speaker, paul ryan. two things, one, the republican down ticket like paul ryan, trying to save the house majority and republicans running like ron johnson that they want to stay away from the trump ticket right now. also, mike pence not wanting to be seen. >> why would he not want to be
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there? >> not defending the comments, the spotlight on him. he knows how damaging and troubling these comments are. he wants to stay away from the spotlight today which is why he put out the statement criticizing the comments donald trump made and raising the stakes for tomorrow night. >> back to the word self-preservation. is this mike pence releasing this statement, self-preservation? >> possibly, yes. >> not for the ticket, but himself? >> if this does not work out, they don't win in november, the republican party is going to pick up the pieces, be leaders to move forward. he's going to try to be there for a leader. people that are members, one of the defining moments of the campaign, if it does not turn out positively for donald trump. >> making it clear with the interview with monica from the wall street journal, monica langley with the wall street journal making it clear i'll see
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you sunday. he's in it, even if he doesn't have the gop support. when you have this avalanche, the best word i can describe, the avalanche of, you know, loss of support, the gop saying and even kelly ayotte saying she is willing to write in mike pence. i mean, donald trump is saying he's going to go this alone. he can do that even with just 30 days or does the gop have some option to insist that he either step aside or, you know, catapult mike pence into position. what are the options as it pertains to the gop, if any? >> they are the very conversations taking place. there are options that are being discussed. that law is kind of big how they would approach this. i think that's exactly what is behind closed doors, republican leaders are discussing. as you mentioned, with each and every republican coming out saying no, i'm not going to vote for donald trump, i'm going to write in mike pence, that is
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significant. we are hearing from leaders within the republican party, the former nominee, mitt romney out campaigning in las vegas. a candidate locks in a close senate race and he blasted donald trump on stage a few minutes ago. we have a cut of that. >> i was offended and dismayed by what was said and done by mr. trump. i think it's degrading to our women, our daughters, our granddaughters, to future generations. i dearly hope that we will come together as a nation and stand as firmly as we can for the principals that have made us the shining city on the hill. >> of course, mitt romney was never in trump's corner. he is one of the most high profile never trumpers who gave
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a speech over the summer. it is significant. it is growing course and these really damaging words against him that are piling up. >> how significant that you have a former republican presidential candle not stomping for the nominee, but saying let's pay attention to the down ballot races. >> that's what they are worried about. the pressure is on the republican party leadership to figure out thousand divert resources away from donald trump including the rnc spending millions of dollars on field operations to get voters to the polls to vote for donald trump on ad campaigns. shift it to house and senate races. that's what we are hearing from p republican party leadership on capitol hill saying that's what the focus needs to be right now. joe heck, the congressman running for the nevada seat being vacated biharry reid. he aligned himself with donald
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trump. he said he supports donald trump and believes he could trust him with the nuclear codes. today, revoking that endorsement. >> that was met by boos and heckles. >> that is the risk about why these candidates have not rescinded their endorsement, yet. there are so many trump supporters in their states, they need to come to the polls. the party could be in a civil war in november. >> wow. thank you so much. we are going to talk more about all of this coming up next. a string of top republicans calling on donald trump to withdrawal but how would that work? it involves something called rule number nine. we'll talk more abtd what the gop is assessing, next. ♪ we asked people to write down the things they love to do most on these balloons. travel with my daughter. roller derby. ♪ now give up half of 'em. do i have to? this is a tough financial choice we could face when we retire. but, if we start saving even just 1% more
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louis a day ahead of the presidential debate. adding to the avalanche of the list of people not supporting donald trump, former presidential candidate john kasich now saying donald trump is a man i cannot and should not support. his statement saying, quote, nothing that has happened in the last 48 hours is surprising to me or others. many people were angry and questioned why i would not endorse donald trump or attend the republican convention. i have long had concerns with donald trump that go beyond his temperment. we have policy differences on conservative issues like trade, our relationship with russia and balancing the federal budget. i held out hope he would change on those disqualifying policy positio positions, but he has not. i encouraged him to change his behavior for the better and offer a positive vision for our country, but he has not. it is clear he has not changed
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and has no interest in doing so. as a result, donald trump is a man i cannot and should not support. the actions of the last day are disgusting. but, that's not why i reached this decision. it has been an accumulation of his words and actions that many have been warning about. i will not vote for a nominee who has behaved in a manner that reflects so poorly on our country. our country deserves better. that coming from former presidential candidate governor john kasich. donald trump has vowed he will remain in the race. despite these calls for him to drop out. if he were to quit, there is a way to replace him. that's being considered and evaluated. the rnc is looking at something called the rule nine. cnn has been digging into what it all means, how it works. chris?
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>> hey, fred, first of all, it's very important to point out we are in unchartered territory. this is unprecedented and unclear if the rule 9, as it's called could be used this late in the game. it's a big if. if donald trump were to drop out and this rule takes effect. as we have been reporting all morning and afternoon, trump said in interviews just today, he would never drop out. what we are talking about is a long shot but, if trump were to step aside, here is what would happen according to the rules as they are written now that support and are vague and open to interpretation. let's go through them. the rnc could hold another convention. that's unlikely. it's practical, big and late in the game. members of the republican national committee would choose a replacement nominee. it isn't chosen by popular vote. they vote by state. each is entitled to the same amount of votes as at the republican national convention.
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new york has 95 votes and three rnc committee members. if all three members agree on a replacement candidate, say they got behind vice presidential candidate, mike pence, he would get all 95 votes. if they those a different candidate, then those 95 votes end up being split. they are vague about how they would be split, but they will be split. this process repeats in every state in the nation. a replacement needs to get a majority to be the nominee. again, rnc members telling cnn today, this couldn't work because early voting is already started in some states and donald trump is on the ballots. again, this entire scenario wouldn't be triggered unless trump drops out. right now, he's saying there's zero chance of that. >> he is not a quitter. he is in it to win it. all right, chris, thank you so much in washington. appreciate it.
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coming up next, donald trump said it over and over again, he loves and cherishes women. but, it sure didn't sound like that on the tape. can trump still win with women?
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all right. welcome back i'm fredricka whitfield in st. louis, washington university. ahead of the presidential debate tomorrow, much more on the big story. where is the election going. the crowd is excited about what
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will transpire tomorrow. all of this now on the heels of that 2005 interview involving donald trump where vulgar language was used. he has since apologized but some republicans are calling him not contrite enough. some are going as far as asking him to step aside and how will his comments affect the female vote? already there has been an avalanche of gop leadership who have said they are no longer supporting donald trump. that includes senator john thune, john kasich, the comments that donald trump -- this now from senator john thune saying the comments, donald trump -- i'm sorry if i could see the tweet up one more time on the screen coming from john thune. there you go. donald trump should withdraw and mike pence should be our nominee
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effective immediately. even kelly ayotte of new hampshire says she's going to write in mike pence and withdrawing her support for donald trump. this from joanie ernst saying the comments djt made are lewd and insulting, there is no excuse and no room from such reprehensible talk about anyone ever. also this morning, michelle bachmann had this to say about the trump comments on new day. >> donald trump is the nominee and donald trump will be the individual who will actually make the average american's life better because he will raise wages. he will create more jobs. and he'll get tough against terrorism. unlike hillary clinton, nothing happens by accident from the clinton campaign. this was absolutely a planned premeditated event to drive the
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conversation. >> all right. you're hearing from balkmchmann there. joining me now to talk about it, cnn political commentator and hillary clinton supporter, hillary rosen. we've got a very excited crowd of college students here at the washington university. good to see all of you. all right. let's talk about this, stacy, you first. how has this impacted your support for donald trump? >> it hasn't impacted it at all. listen, we have this issue, which is we have two candidates, september first was the final deadline for any changes to be made. we have two people on the ballot. i found the comments to be disgusting. they were difficult to listen to. but they're not -- i'm not clutching my pearls right now. listen, in our culture, we have allowed women to be degraded on a daily basis in music,
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hollywood. turn on the television at any point and time there are naked women. >> running for the president of the united states -- >> absolutely. >> shouldn't there be a different standard. >> well, since bill clinton we've seen a steady degradation. he's already apologized. i'm sorry. >> -- stacy donald trump apologized some something 11 years ago and he's not accepting any apologizes for donald trump's behavior -- for bill clinton's behavior 20 years ago. why is it excusable for donald trump? >> well, when did bill clinton apologize for all of the activities under the resolute desk? when did that happen? when was the last show outraged by bill clinton. they weren't. >> why is it bill clinton relevant -- >> because -- >> bill clinton is not running. >> shehe's running and going to
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in the white house with a same set of interns, it's her behavior towards him. her protection -- she protected her husband. she attacked the women who were assaulted by her husband. the women who had affairs by her husband. she attacked him and made it okay. >> that's been disputed. hillary -- what's your response in this in terms of how this is impacting or changing the dynamics? >> donald trump said something that happened ten years ago shouldn't matter but something that happened 25 years ago should? his double standard is not going to fly. we have not lowered the level of responsibility of our leaders to this point. we have not done as as a society. it's not okay. george bush wouldn't say it's okay. >> i didn't say it's okay. >> i'm talking now. >> and you were talking when i was talking. >> and barack obama, and george bush have set a standard. we have an opportunity to elect somebody who has -- in her
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personal life has exceeded that standard. what we're doing is bill clinton is what the trump people are going to throw around for the next several days about this. bill clinton is not on the ballot. hillary clinton is. >> stacy, doesn't there have to be more. donald trump, tomorrow, this debate will be taking place. >> absolutely. >> donald trump has reiterated today in a conversation with "the wall street journal" reporter as he did last night in his statement that he's going to be there. that he is not backing down. he's not stepping aside. what does he need to -- what do you believe your candidate needs to address tomorrow so that he doesn't lose support or even potentially can gain support? >> absolutely there's an opportunity tomorrow night for people who haven't been paying attention up to this point. they're now paying attention because of the story. they'll be looking for who is talking about leadership. i understand this is a salacious story and fun to talk about on cnn. >> you believe he has to address it further? >> no, i don't. he's apologized for what he said
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11 years ago. tomorrow he needs to tell them why he should be elected. jobs, foreign policy, and other thing things the black community. >> don't apologizes involve an explanation. it turned quickly to bill clinton. >> do we hold hillary to that standard. she said she apologized for misusing the e-mail system. she didn't explain why. she didn't supp-- >> we heard lots of -- >> nothing to my satisfaction. >> nothing will be to your satisfaction. but what donald trump did last night iphis so-called apologize was he said you know i'm sorry i apologize. but then immediately said we're going to talk about bill clinton on sunday night.
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now, that's actually not an apologize. that's actually not moving forward where the country wants to go. you are going to see hillary clinton talk about student debt, talk about why these kids need to be able to get jobs when they graduate college. talking about the environment, talking about equal pay and equal wages. >> will these issues be a distraction. >> it already has been a distraction. donald trump's week between not paying taxes and finding a billion dollar loss between his violating the cuban sanctions. it's all a distraction because he actually doesn't have a policy or plan. this is his campaign. >> it's been good for hillary because she doesn't have good policies going forward to address the issues i named off earlier i think donald trump should talk about. >> what do you think is good for hillary? >> we get to talk about something donald trump said 11 years ago but we're not talking about her e-mails, her taxes, we're not talking abouthea her
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losses. we're not doing equal coverage and i don't think that fair. >> lots of conversations have taken place on all those things you just mentioned. we'll see what's going to happen tomorrow night the town hall style debate. the second presidential debate more important perhaps more now than ever. don't miss the second presidential debate moderated by anderson cooper right here on cnn special coverage kicking off at 4:00 eastern tomorrow with the two candidates facing off at 9:00 p.m. eastern. we have so much more straight ahead in the newsroom. things ab. all the networks are great now. we're talking within a 1% difference in reliability of each other. and, sprint saves you 50% on most current national carrier rates. save money on your phone bill, invest it in your small business. wouldn't you love more customers? i would definitely love some new customers. sprint will help you add customers and cut your costs. switch your business to sprint and save 50% on most current verizon, at&t and t-mobile rates.
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