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>> this is shoo donald trump really is. >> this is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to clinton corruption. i like it better without the teleprompter. 7:00 o'clock on a saturday morning. glad to see you up. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. >> donald trump is, of course, fightsing back this morning. he just tweeted 100% fabricated and made up charges pushed strongly by the media and the clinton campaign may poison the mind of the american voter fix. and yet the women accusing him of sexual assault. >> i am a victim of the one of the great political smear campaigns in the history of our country. >> well, the two new allegations
come from summer zervos, the former "the apprentice" contest ants, and kristin anderson a photographer. trump called anderson's statementses nonsense and false on zervos. he writes i vaguely remember ms. zervos as one of the contestanted on prn"the apprent" over the years. to be clear, i never met her at a hotel or greeted her inappropriately a decade ago. that is not who i am as a person and it is not how i've conducted might life. in fact, ms. zervos continued to contacts me for help, e-mailing my office to visit her restaurant in california. beyond that, the media is now creating a theater of absurdity that threatens to tear our democratic process apart. >> reporter: the first of eight accusers came forward this week.
mindy mcgillivray is one of them. mcgillivray couldn't believe what she just heard. >> we heard anderson cooper ask him a number of times. is this something you that did? did you grope them? and adamantly said, no. i jumped off my couch. i was like, you're a liar. summer zervos once appeared as a contest on trump's reality show "the apprentice" after she was kicked off the show, zervos asked him to meet her. >> he began kissing me with an open mouth. i tried to push him away. i pushed his chest with space between us and said, come on, man, get real. he receipted my words back to me "get real" as he began thrusting his genitals. >> reporter: in the early '90s,
kristin anderson was an aspiring photographer in new york. he sat down next to her one night in a manhattan dance club. >> person on my right who unbeknownst to me at that time was donald trump put their hands up my skirt. >> reporter: temple taggart is a former miss utah. she said without her content, trump kissed her on the lips immediately after meeting her in 1977. rachel crooks told the "times" that trump kissed her inappropriately as well. natasha stoynoff said trump pinned her down in a reporting assignment at mar-a-lago estate in florida. and jessica lee said that trump grabbed her breasts and put his hand up her skirt on a plane in the early '90s. donald trump described it all as a smear political campaign. >> i don't know who these people
are. i think it's a disgusting thing. >> reporter: which is exactly how mcgillray said that he grabbed her from behind. >> he didn't give me a second glance. knew what he did. i could tell by looking at his smug face he knew what he did. i said donald just grabbed my ass. he is like, what do you want to do about it? i was like, i was silent. i don't want to do anything. >> reporter: she said she regrets not confronting the billionaire on the spot. despite trump's insistence that he treats women with respect, all of the women said he treated them like objects. >> what would you tell donald trump today? >> he's a sick, sick person.
if you don't acknowledge it, maybe he's a helpless old man who needs to step down. >> and the trump campaign released this statement, reportsedly of zervos' company john barry. i am completely shocked and bewildered by my cousin summer zervos and her press conference today. ever since she was on "the apprentice" she has had nothing but glowing things to say about mr. trump. until summer invited mr. trump to her restaurant during the primary and he said no. >> cnn reached out to zervos' attorney gloria allred. she responded john barry is a huge trump supporter. he was employed at summer's family restaurant until several months ago when his employment ended. since then, he has expressed
holtivity and ill will towards summer. what else are we hearing from the campaign? >> victor, that statement is coming essentially after two more women came forward yesterday. they allege that donald trump groped them. the number of women who have accused trump of sexual assault or harassment now totals seven. we heard from hillary clinton's campaign. she's steered mostly clear of these allegations against trump. 65 fearing that pulling the spotlight away from trump's troubled campaign is not the way to go at this point. say thatted mostly quiet. but she did weigh in last night at a fund-raiser in seattle. >> whole world has heard how donald trump brags about mistreating women. and the disturbing stories keep coming. this is who donald trump really is. we know that.
now, we have to demonstrate who we are. [ applause ] america is better than this. >> now, kristin anderson told "the washington post" in a story published yesterday that trump slid his hand up her miniskirt and touched her private parts at a night cluck back in the '90s. and summer zervos said trump grabbed her breasts. and trump dismissing the allegations as lies. in fact, he seems to mock two of his other accusers as too unattractive to draw his eye. and he painted himself the victim of a smear campaign. here's what he said last night, reiterating what he said in a tweet this morning. >> these allegations are 100% false. as everybody, i think -- these claims defy reason, truth, logic, common sense. they're made without supporting witnesses. >> now, all of these allegations
have knocked trump off his game. off his message since that news broke last week. but in a statement last night, trump says he plans to address the nation in a much more personal way. he wants to talk about his vision for the country and put this behind him, victor. >> chris frates, thank you so much. digital correspondent with us now. chris is there a sense that donald trump can overcome all of this. and when might we hear more of that policy as opposed to all of the shenanigans that we've heard so far. all of these accusations from trump himself? when are we going to hear more from him? >> donald trump is in a fox hole right now fighting for his political life. with just a couple weeks left in the election, time is really running out. the major opportunity he has to try to turn this thing around is next week in las vegas at the presidential debate with hillary clinton. but looking at the electoral
map, going into this election, it was already really title. hillary clinton already had a firm head start just because of the demographics of the country. donald trump needed or excuse me, needs to win states like ohio, florida, pennsylvania and others. really have a clean sweep of all of these battleground states in order to reach the 270 votes he needs to win the electoral college. that is getting harder and harder by the day as he's having to answer questions about alleged sexual assault, instead of making his closing arguments. so he's really going to have to turn this around very quickly. and every time he's talking about alleged sexual assaults, this time he's not talking about his vision for the country. as chris frates mentioned a moment ago, this has knocked him off his game and has to get back on his feet if he has any hope of winning the electoral votes in the key swing states. >> somebody else who has been
public lly silent about this is house speaker paul ryan. he was at a major address in madison, wisconsin, and he was talking more about congress. when you look at what we're talking about, the electoral map and the numbers, hillary clinton at this moment seems to be poised to win the white house. would that not push republicans to get out and vote to keep congress in republican control? >> that's right. the presidency is not the only office that republicans are worried about right now. they fear that down the ballot, they could suffer as well. including popular members of congress, the house and the senate. now, if donald trump should lose in november, the republican parties is really going to have to pick up the broken pieces of what happened over the past coming of years. there's been incredible split in the party that's been unforeseen, really in modern history. the republican party has to have a real gut check and figure out what kind of party they would want in the future.
whether the party of donald trump or more of a conservative party that we saw before trump's rise. this is complicated for a guy like paul line has decades of experience and time talking akron serbout conservative valu then endorsed donald trump. i expect if donald trump should lose in november, i expect there to be real soul searching in the republican party. >> chris moody, i appreciate your thoughts. thank you so much. so what's next from donald trump on the defense fighting multiple women. what this means for the campaign less than 30 days now from the election.
now affect his campaign in the final, extremely crucial weeks before this election is coming up next month? with me now trump supporter and former reagan white house director jeffrey lord. and scottie bolden. former director of the democratic national committee. >> good morning. >> donald trump said last night that he say victim here. do you believe donald trump is a victim? >> let me tell you why. this is the biggest exercise of what i call ruling class hypocrisy that i've seen in a long time. i mean, nbc has say tape of juanita broaddrick that they're apparently unwilling to release with a full tape that they're unwilling to release in which specifically accuses bill clinton of sexual violence.
aka -- >> let me bring you back to the question. tell me why is he a victim? >> because these people do these things themselves and then hide it and then accuse other people of doing it, doing the same thing. i mean, this is mind-boggling the hypocrisy. >> jeffrey, let me play for you some tape from -- let me get the date, new year's eve, december 31st, 2015, when donald trump started initially attacking bill clinton for his marital history for the scandal of the '90s. >> right. >> and this is what you said then. >> jeffrey, you know, donald trump is not a choir boy, right? donald trump has his own history, his own marital past. will that become an issue in the republican primary? >> well, if there's somebody out there if there is with bill clinton accusing him of rape, i'd like to know her name. >> the accusation is not rape, but sexual assault. >> there you go.
>> you said if there's someone accusing him, i'd like to know her name. this is why you're finding out the names. why is that coming out? >> there is no accusation of rape here. >> are you saying because it's only sexual assault you don't want to know? >> no. what i'm saying is, you've got people who do this themselves on a regular basis. senator -- late senator kennedy at a famous incident of sexual violence at a well-known restaurant that was reported in "gq" magazine, what happened with that, senator biden was in the senate. senator mccain was in the senate. they didn't do anything about it. >> jeffrey, you're pointing out story lines about -- >> hypocrisy, hypocrisy. >> as you used the word "hypocrisy" you're not pointing out the incidents.
>> you're willing to discuss bill clinton's history now. >> there's no accusation of rape. >> there is no accusation of rape, correct. >> all right. >> but that doesn't make it -- >> go ahead, scott. >> it doesn't make it any better at all. listen, donald trump lives at the height of hypocrisy. the media, the democrats are driving these accusations of sexual assaults. donald trump is living it from "entertainment tonight" -- >> "access hollywood" -- >> -- "access hollywood," forgive me. and he's denied that, driving it in the debate, and then continues to drive it for a week. completely off message. not talking about economics or the economy or immigration, but objectifying women, even in his defense. i timed once, he spent 35 minutes at one of his rallies talking about these issues whereby nobody's talking about
them but him. its illogical, quite frankly. i think he's given up on the campaign. i think he's going to attract his base. energize his base. he certainly isn't getting educated white men and women in the suburbs that he needs. these battleground states. and hillary, because of these allegations that donald trump is driving, she's up by six points in georgia. she's competing even in red states. the trump campaign even pulled out of virginia. so, he's got some real problems, but they're his problems. >> we've got to go to break, when we come back, we'll continue this conversation and turn to hillary clinton what we've learned from wikileaks. the hacking of the john podesta e-mails. stay with us. quick break, we'll be right back. [alarm clock beeping]
and we're back with our political panel, scott bolden, hillary clinton supporter and jeffrey lord a trump supporter. i want to turn to wikileaks and what we're learning about the hacking of john podesta, the campaign chairman and hillary clinton and the e-mails. cnn can't verify the authenticity of this. but i do want to say there is an exchange with hillary clinton with the e-mail server. during after she said she was sorry about the confusion but did apologize.
the headline is she rocked it. the press take-away was the whine of, but she really didn't apologize to the american people. i'm beginning to think trump is on to something. and then she replies, everyone wants her to apologize, and she should. apologies are like her achilles' he heel. but she doesn't seem like a -- in the interview. and she said the word sorry. >> i wasn't part of the discussions but you can see from the wikileaks that ought to be condemned by donald trump and others but haven't. but these are political strategists analyzing her interview, analyzinged issue that is a challenge and difficult, but one what's evolving. at the time of these discussions no one knew everything that would come out. no one knew exactly the
information. >> they knew she was sorry. why in a few interviews she gets to the apologies to the american people. >> i wasn't part of that. but i will say, she did apologize and went further with her apology to the american people. i can tell you, having run for office and been in support of candidates with campaigns that everything is evolving. you've got to give more information that goes to the political process and what you're seeing are deliberations behind. what's most important is what the candidate is presenting. she's apologized. she was in charge and wants to move with the important issues of the campaign. and that's fair. >> scott, what you're saying there the deliberations behind but what's most important is what she says publicly. that rings familiar you have to have a public and private position on -- >> not at all. not at all. >> hold on. >> go on, quickly. but i've got to get jeffrey in. >> i will. i'm talking about discussions
between her strategist and her political people. she wasn't part of those e-mails. and evolving position on what the candidate's position would be on an issue like the e-mails, that's a fair discussion behind the scenes. >> jeffrey, go ahead. >> well, she's caught here. i mean, this is the problem. and i mean in this day and age, it's very interesting, donald trump does not do e-mail. and i think this is probably one of the reasons why. >> if he were -- it would be worse. trust me. >> this is what the american people have with her, she does say things in public. then when she's in private with goldman sachs speeches one moment she's condemning wall street but behind the scene, yeah, i'll with you. this is exactly her problem. this is why people don't trust her. >> this is not true.
this is between a political strategist, she wasn't part of it. >> i hear you. we leave that to the viewers to decide. a. scott bolden, jeffrey lord. thank you. clinton and trump, you got to watch it, wednesday, the final debate, wednesday 4:00 p.m. on cnn. donald trump knows who to blame for the weight of the sexual allegations. the dark media conspiracy, trump says, it's out to get him -- flex.
welcome back. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. good to be with you. let's start with the sexual assault accusations against donald trump. they're now piling up. another woman has come forward accusing the republican nominee of reaching up her skirt. >> kristin anderson, a photographer and former model say this happened at a crowded new york city nightclub in the early '90s. and she tells our anderson cooper why she doesn't report the incident at that time. >> it was one of those things that happened really quickly. i pushed him off and moved away. and i sort of didn't really ponder on it that long. and i didn't tell anybody. other than a few people, oh, you should have said something. oh, yeah. say what to who? could i have said something? maybe, you know, who am i going
to tell. go to the club manager, donald trump just put his hand up my skirt. they'll be like? yeah. they'll go to him and say did you do this? he'll say no. kind of where we are now. you know, he's saying no and there are a ton of women saying yes. and more will come out if it was that nonchalant, there's no way he didn't do it to many other people. >> trump on friday called her account nonsense, arguing that he rarely sits alone. >> one came out recently where i was sitting alone in some club. i really don't sit alone that much. honestly, folks. i don't sit alone -- i go -- i was sitting alone by myself. like this. and then i went wild. somebody. i just heard this one -- it's like -- it's like unbelievable. even a simple investigation would have shown these
allegations against me, in just about all case, it's nonsense. >> basis of his defense there that he rarely sits alone. well, anderson never claimed that trump was sitting alone at the time of that incident. >> isn't the meantime, he's warning supporters of a dark media conspiracy. the culprit, a mexican billionaire, the media and hillary clinton. brian stelter, a cnn consultant, is looking into this. brian, what's the conspiracy that trump is pushing? >> this is the grandest conspiracy theory of all. in the past days he's talking about the banks, the media, politicians and corporations and hillary clinton all working against him. here's his tone, specifically, about how he thinks the media is treating him. >> these attacks are orchestrated by the clinton and their media allies. the only thing hillary clinton has going for herself is the press. without the press she is absolutely zero.
this is a conspiracy against you, the american people, and we cannot let this happen, or continue. >> we are in a pretty dangerous place the way trump is describing these wide ranging and vast conspiracies. he's trying to say the media equals clinton. and clinton equals the media. it's a lot more complicated than that, victor and christi, there are ail lot of journal efforts concerned about the possibilities of a trump conspiracy. but there are also a lot of journalists concerned about clinton. journalists are trying to cover the campaigns fairly. but right now, there's a lot more to cover on the trump side. a lot more complicated and troubling stories on the trump side of journalists trying to treat it fairly. >> right, because of the hillary clinton and wikileaks e-mails coming out as well. i want to talk to you, too, real quickly, that 2005 donald trump wasn't the only one on that tape. the "today" show most billy bush
on that paper was suspended by nbc. what are we learning about his future? >> very interesting developments with billy bush. his lawyer confirming exit negotiations with nbc. meaning that billy bush will be leaving the "today" tt"today" s not leaving the 9:00 a.m. hour. here's what it is, a report that billy push has a $10 million settlement, and he said that report is false. there is no $10 million agreement. and that amount as not been discussed. the idea that he's being paid $10 million to leave nbc, it's almost as if he's been rewarded in some grotesque fashion with the tape. essentially, they are paying off billy bush's contract and that will be worked out in negotiation. >> right. it comes down to a contract what
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minds in key battleground states. in some states, the voting has already begun. now in ohio, pennsylvania, florida, these are critical states. >> earlier this week in miami, former presidential candidate al gore campaigned with clinton reminding them that the vote counts. demographics in florida, they've changed since that time. poppy harlow travelled that corridor and spoke with the growing number of latinos as part of that population in a special report called "your money, your vote." >> i think we mostly feel, not so much that we're real crazy about donald trump. but most of it, we want a change. >> reporter: that's the common thread among many of the seniors we met in florida. there's a sense that the country is headed in the wrong direction. even the well off seniors in this gated community are
anxious. >> a lot of countries are nipping at our heels. >> reporter: we met these neighbors in sarasota. their dissatisfaction with what they see as the status quo runs deep. >> she has talked about increasing the amount of immigration, that's stunning that we would allow that many people come in. that will ensure a liberal culture forever. we're coming out of this, a session slower than we have previous sessions. >> reporter: that is true. >> i would strongly days disagree with the assumption that we're better off now than seven years ago. strongly. >> reporter: by all measures, the economy has grown significantly in the last eight year. unemployment is half of what it was in 2009. and the stock market has almost tripled from its lows that same year. but it's the national debt that really troubles these voters. >> i think it really kind of
scares us that we're staring at $20 trillion in debt. not knowing how our grandchildren will repay it. were while trump may have the support of many seniors, clinton has her own growing demographic here. puerto ricans. there are by some estimates, 100,000 more puerto ricans in florida now than there were for the 2012 election. >> most important thing besides that the lord is there, it's education. we need it. my vote is going to hillary clinton. to me, she's got a head on her shoulders. >> reporter: so what about cuban-americans, a group that makes up about 30% of eligible hispanic voters in florida? miguel and maria garcia moved to the unites in the early 1960s, following the cuban revolution. you can see the generational divide in their family, split right down party lines. >> i have a lot of reservations
about both nominee. >> this year is a tough year. i'm not having such a tough time. i have problem with trump in the sense of the future here. working. with hillary, i honestly don't trust her. >> reporter: if it wasn't for your fear of communism, you would be a democrat, because you believe in everybody having equal opportunity? >> in cuba, people didn't have incentive because the government would give them everything. but now, we have to live some part, to help. we need to help. >> these two people right here are the biggest helpers that you ever want to meet. >> give me some help, too. >> reporter: 97-year-old grandmamgrandma
maria has cast her ballot for republicans for many years. but not this year. >> donald trump? donald trump? [ laughter ] >> so, you can see these voters are clearly divided on who they think would do more for their personal economy as president. we've heard so much from the candidate it's and the pundits, it was refreshing to get out there and hear directly from the voters. i should note that this was filmed from the 2005 "access hollywood" tape of donald trump surfaced. we called back all of the trump supporters we interviewed, nearly each one, with the exception of just a few told us they are still supporting to donald trump and planning to vote for him. you can see much more of our swing state road trim and our special report "your money, your vote" that airs tonight at 7:30 p.m. right here.
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sexual allegationallegations. what we've heard from trump supporters after seeing the access hollywood tape and hearing about these allegations that's not the donald trump i know. when you were on the show in 2005 when this was recorded, season four, what you heard in that tape and what you heard from these women is that the donald trump that you know? >> well, i would like to say i didn't really know donald in the way i thought die. i looked up to him as a mentor, someone as a positive role model and a business example. i was at the time a thriving, budding entrepreneur. what i will say i did know a man who used profanity regularly. he talked about women that was odd and inappropriate at times. the bigger i remember for me is
that there's always been this cloud of secrecy around the real donald versus the puck donald. we see a public donald who was entertaining on television but had to shine nondisclosure agreements. if it didn't air it didn't happen. i look back now and see anybody who has been involved with donald or the trump organization has been required to sign very extensive and abnormally grief nondisclosure agreements. i'm a lawyer and i know that this now abnormally restrictive. >> we're hearing from people involved with the show, they cannot. >> i can't speak to anybody else's contract. mine was a $5 million five year nondisclosure agreement. mine ended six years ago. what i will say is that there is a pattern, seems like a pattern where people are being told to
be quiet not to speak out. i was personally threatened not just by trump supporters but trump personally telling notice be very careful. i think now we look at women being told to be silenced, we shouldn't believe them. there's a culture of silence that's dangerous when we talk about our government and constitutional freedom of speech. >> you talked a little bit about the compliments in the boardroom. flush that out for us. what did you see or hear >> one of the thing i've always known is donald is a casino guy. and i used to manage pro athletes in the nba and i'm used took around men who talk about women. but what i noticed about donald is that he would make comments that were inappropriate at really odd times. here in the boardroom you could be talking about business and wanting to be taken seriously and interrupt you not with that's a good idea or a follow up it was more i like that blouse. so in the middle of conversation it was just very odd at certain
times. so i see that actually during the debates, during the presidential dabts all of a sudden etalk about and then randomly wander off somewhere else. it's interesting he talked about secretary clinton's looks and the way she had the look to be president. it makes me really wonder when i was there were we being looked at and listened to or just looked at. will we have a supreme court that looks like the trump brand which is what we were told when he to dress like we looked like trump brand. >> there are some supporters, past supporters who after the release of the tape and even after these allegations have decided they are no longer with tru trump but stayed with him through the mulch ban, statement of african-americans, release of recordings of statements on women. i understand you take this the i remember that broke the camel's bureaucrat. >> people are choosing to be 0
bri oblivious. people chose to ignore mexican-americans being attacked, mexicans be attacked, disabled, veterans, people who look like you and me and others chose to ignore that. but it wasn't until one of our sisters who was white was attacked. there's a way barbie is protect by ken and when that is disturbed and disrupted america stands up in a different way than i want does for the rest of us. the question is who is worthy fighting for? and there is a strategic political advantage to make being sure that caucasian women are -- that you have -- there's a strategic advantage to make being sure you have the support of caucasian women. very hard to win the presidency without them. very interesting to me that it wasn't until that a white woman
was talked about in a disparaging manner that all of a sudden now we have outrage. that's hypocrisy and that's something i find shameful and cowa cowardice. >> is there a difference between the donald trump of 2005 and 2016. we appreciate you coming here and speaking about the donald trump you knew in 2005 as he look ahead to election 24 days from now. >> it's so important to stay awake. >> thank you so much. thank you. and we'll talk about the views of some christian leerds who are stick with donald trump. stay with us for that portion of the interview. you got to watch wednesday final presidential debate showdown live coverage begins at 4:00 p.m. eastern right here on cnn.
. police in ohio say they may have a serial killer on their hands and fortunately, though, he's already behind bars. >> that's because this guy shaken gray has confessed to killing five women. he's already been charged with two murders and now its ex is talking. she's only talking, those with hln ashleigh banfield. here's what's in store on the debut of her new show "primetime justice." >> reporter: we got a lot coming up on the new program. for one, we've been following this story about what looks to be like a serial killer story in the making. a man has confessed to killing
five women and he did this behind bars. he told a reporter, guys, that he did this. he hasn't even been charged with some of these murders and he's spilling the beans. this is his picture. kind of reminds you of dahmer and bundy. we're watching this story and one of the people who can help us get inside his mind his girlfriend who lived with him for five years, perhaps give us some inclination whether there might be any clues before all of these murders happened. so we're going to do that story and then we're so fortunate because robin wright will stop by. she will talk about not on italy current season of ""house of cards"" she's filming, she's also directing which is exciting. she will talk about injustice in her view. she's doing something in another part of the world that's remarkable. has to do with girls. very unfair. she's trying to right a wrong and she's really awesome and
you'll like it. we're looking forward to our first show. everybody is tweaking the last bits and pieces. you're just seeing a little bit of the set behind me. monday night 8:00 p.m. >> be sure again to watch "primetime justice" with ashleigh banfield premiering monday night 8:00 p.m. on our sister station hln. there is is a lot that we need to break down for you this morning. >> let's get to it right now. i am a victim of one of the great political smear campaigns in the history of our country. >> two more women say donald trump made inappropriate sexual advances towards them. >> disturbing stories keep coming. >> these allegations are 100% false. they are made up. they never happened. >> the first of eight accusers publicly came forward wednesday night. >> believe me. she would not be my first choice that ian