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you can see the full interview with melania trump on "a.c. 360" later tonight 8:00 p.m. eastern right here on cnn. that's it for me. thanks very much for watching. "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next, breaking news, melania trump speaks out in a conditiandid, rare intervih cnn. what does she think about her husband's allegationsually assa women? and newest conspiracy theory. what it is? and howard stern opening up about donald trump, is trump too crass even for howard stern? let's go "outfront." good evening, i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, breaking news, melania trump speaks out. donald trump's wife sitting down with cnn tonight. the first time she's speaking out since the explosive "access hollywood" tape and since
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allegations surfaced he sexually assaulted several women. here she is. >> it wases ten days ago that "access hollywood" released that tape. i'm wondering when you first saw it, when you first heard it, what did you think? >> i -- i said to my husband that, you know, the language is inappropriate, it's not acceptable, and i was surprised because that is not the man that i know. and as you can see from the tape, the cameras were not on. it was only a mike, and i wonder if they even knew that the mike was on because they were kind of a boy talk, and he was lead on, like, egg on from the host to say dirty and bad stuff. >> you feel the host, billy
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bush, was sort of egging him on? >> yes. yes. >> is that language you had heard him use before? >> no. no. that's why i was surprised because i said, like i don't know that person that would talk that way. and that he would say that kind of stuff. in private, i heard many different stuff, boys talk. i -- the boys, the way they talk when they grow up and they want to sometimes show each other, oh, this and that and talking about the girls and, but, yeah, i was surprised, of course. >> and donald trump, as you hear melania trump getting ready to go to that podium. he'll be there momentarily in green bay, wisconsin, about to take the stage. several new national polls show hillary clinton today. 11 points by nbc, and 12 in a new monmouth poll. anderson cooper as you saw was with melania trump today and
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he's with me now. i mean, you know, i was just asking you, but before we start talking, what her eyes looked like, you know, how she emotionally seemed and what else were the highlights that she spoke to you about? >> you know, that was sort of the first thing i sort of said, just like, you know, how are you doing? it's been a rough couple weeks. she said she's feeling strong. everything's great. you know, no sign of any kind of difficulty for the last week or two and obviously after talking extensively about the "access hollywood" tape i moved on to the allegations by the number of women with who have come forward. she said she categorically believes her husband when he says all of them are lying. she's seen many women go up to donald trump in front of her handing him phone numbers that she's confronted women in the past about this sort of stuff. and she believes none of it is true, that that is not the man that she knows, that she agrees he's a changed person from the person who you heard on that tape. >> and when she gave you the example of other women giving their phone numbers to him, it
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sort of sounds like she's saying the women throw themselves at him. >> yes, not in using those words, but, yeah, i think that was the reason she was bringing that up, idea that women approach him. she said at one point, you know, he doesn't even like to shake hands, that it's unlikely that, you know, he would be suddenly randomly kissing people without any kind of consent. >> wow. pretty stunning. obviously i'm not going to be lewd about it, but right, you don't want to touch anyone's hands, don't want to do anything else. anderson, pretty incredible interview. i know almost a half an hour. you're going to see all of it, anders anderson's interview at the top of the hour. i want to go to jim acosta, in green bay where donald trump is about to speak. anderson was saying many people from the campaign came in to see that interview. donald trump was not there with his wife today. he's out there where you are. do you expect him to address these allegations of sexual
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assault tonight or will he try to pivot to something else? >> reporter: yeah, erin, i think he's going to try to pivot tonight. i think it responsible we will hear donald trump talk about this in the context of what we heard over the weekend, win is he believes this is all part of a rigged deal to throw the election to hillary clinton, but it does sound like he's letting his wife, melania, take the lead in defending him in his campaign against these accusations we've been hearing over the last week or so. i will tell you from talking to a trump campaign official, they would like to pivot to something else and that in particular is hillary clinton's use of a private e-mail server when she was secretary of state. we did talk to a trump campaign official in the last few minutes and received some of his prepared remarks that he's going to be delivering here shortly. he is going to be talking about that and specifically joining in on this republican claim that the state department and the fbi were somehow working together to suppress or cover up that scandal, something that the fbi and the state department deny. we're also going to hear donald trump make a pitch for lobbying reform both at the white house and up on capitol hill, but, you know, erin, this is a donald trump rally, you know, expect the unexpected.
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it is possible donald trump could end up talking about all of this and just to give you a sense as to what we've been hearing so far tonight, sheriff david clarke from milwaukee who is a big donald trump supporter, said earlier this evening, warming up the crowd here, that it's pitchforks and torches time. trying to rev up this crowd here. that is shocking to hear coming from a law enforcement official, but of course, in this campaign, anything goes, erin. >> all right. thank you very much. we're going to be talking much more about that. pretty stunning talk. "outfront," lisa bloom, attorney for jill harth who filed a sexual harassment lawsuit against donald trump. christen tate, a trump supporter. and mark preston, our executive politics editor. mark, let me star with you. you just saw melania trump there. the tape that she was talking about came out more than a week ago, since then, cnn reports more than nine women have come forward. she finally does interviews today. without her husband and refers to it as just boys talk and that
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she's seen women give their numbers to her husband, which as you heard anderson talking an it sort of implying women throw themselves at him. was this effective strategy, this interview? >> well, it certainly in many ways she has become one of his top surrogates, certainly at this time. you have to wonder, though, erin, would it be more effective had she done this several days ago? you know, to your point when that tape came out on a friday night, it took a full day, took until the next day before melania trump actually issued a statement. had they issued a statement that night when that news started to break, it probably would have been more eeffective. the fact donald trump wasn't sitting next to her as well, you u have to wonder, would that have been more effective for her sitting by her husband at a time when he needs her the most? for her to come out and say things that she's seen women throw themselves at him or slip telephone numbers, look, that's pretty powerful in many ways but i do have to wonder the timing. why did it take them so long to have mel laania do this intervi?
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>> you heard melania say she thinks billy bush egged her on. she continued to say her husband probably didn't know the mike was on. do those excuses add up? >> well, sure, donald trump is always the victim, right? and she also says, well, he's just engaging in boy talk. this is a 59-year-old man who's now a 70-year-old man running for president. he's not a little boy and he can't blame everybody else. he has to take responsibility. but what really struck me an the interview was we are not just talking about some foul language. i don't think any of us cares about foul language. what we are talking about is bragging about sexual assault. and i hope that in the longer interview, we're going to see her address that issue because that's what the hot-mike tape is really all about. >> kristen? >> i don't think this interview is really going to change much. melania trump could help trump soften his campaign a little built and maybe broaden his appeal to women but the bottom line is this. if trump wants to win in
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november, he's got to stop talking about these scandals and focus on the issues. hillary is a very weak candidate. a "washington post" poll from last month shows that 60% of americans think she's corrupt and took in pay-to-play politics when she was secretary of state. only 33% of her own supporters say they're very enthusiastic to go vote for her. this should be trump's election to lose and it could be if he focuses on the issues and doesn't make this into a squawking match about who's the most personally corrupt. >> right. you don't want to have him talk about these issues. nonetheless, though, jackie, this is an issue out there. obviously enough so that melania trump came out and finally gave an interrview i think it's prety clear she didn't want to give, or donald trump didn't want her. if they had, she would have when the tape came out. >> donald trump keeps bringing it up, went to a rally and went through the litany of accusations and went through and said he didn't do anything. >> disparaging, i want to note, physical appearance of one of the women.
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>> and hillary clinton for that matter. he said he wasn't impressed with view of her. he's the one who's kept this story going and having her, it might soften him, but also having her pass the buck to billy bush, i don't know if that's helpful at all to the case. he's supposed to be the strong businessman who does what he wants. >> kristin, when you hear mel la melania's reasons, she said women throw themselves at donald trump, he doesn't like to touch people, implication being he wouldn't touch someone in an unwanted manner. billy bush was -- are these excuses? >> no, they're not excuses. if the allegations against trump are untrue, he ought to politely and this is untrue and move on. in the 1990s the american people forgave bill clinton. they forgave him because they liked how bill clinton worked with the republicans to make our economy stronger again and balance the budget.
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these are the issues that the american people care about and, you know, just like they care about ste cuecuring the boarder making our economy strong again. trump needs to focus on those issues. >> kristin is sitting here as a trump supporter, she's not saying the interview was a home run and i find the excuses viable, she's saying let's not talk about it anymore. >> assuming they're not true. >> reporter: a lot of republicans are saying that specificall icallally though, t. who we haven't heard from is ivanka trump, donald trump's best surrogate so far this campaign. let's go back to july when she gave that really strong speech in cleveland where a lot of people were looking at her saying when is ivanka trump going to run for president? having her go out there defending her father as well would be powerful and i'm surprised, erin, we haven't seen her yet. >> what do you say about the excuse about he doesn't like to be touched, he doesn't like to touch people, you know, because
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he like s to always use purell. what do you make of that? >> most of the women alleged they were groped on top of their clothing. we heard them talk about putting in a tic tac and going to kiss women. i don't think that goes very far. look, the bottom line is i don't hold melania trump responsible for her husband's behavior, i don't hold hillary clinton responsible for her husband's behavior. i hope nobody holds me responsible for my husband's behavior. one of the things i always liked about conservatives is the idea of personal responsibility. we expect wives to come out and support their husbands and good for her. i don't think this interview is going to really move the needle much for anyone. >> all right. we hit pause there. thanks to all. next, the breaking news. new polls out tonight from cnn. trump and clinton neck and neck in key swing states even after all this, neck and neck. trump about to speak live in wisconsin says the election is rigged and he keeps saying it again and again. you hear pitchforks coming out over it. we're going to fact check those claims tonight. plus howard stern speaks out
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is the race in some of these must-win states? >> erin, we tested three of the most contested states. so these are a lot closer races than we're seeing nationally overall. let's take a look first at nevada. where clinton has a two-point lead here. 46%-44% for donald trump. 7% for gary johnson. it's one of his better states. we also looked at north carolina. another very close race, basically tied. hillary clinton at 48%. donald trump 47%. johnson lower here down at 4%. and ohio, which is sort of donald trump's stronghold right now in the battleground, look at this, it's got a four-point edge for him, 48% for trump, 44% for clinton. johnson at 4%. and jill stein down at 2%. so take a look at the overall battleground map right now. you see, we have four states in yellow here. this is our remaining real tossup states. we tested three of them. and here's the key thing to remember. look at that number for hillary clinton. 272. all the states that are solidly
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in her corner or leaning her way, she's already over the threshold. donald trump could win the four remaining tossups and still not get there. so he is seeking for where else he can do to take a state that is already in her corner and bring it to his side. perhaps a state like pennsylvania or wisconsin where he is tonight. >> and which of course is, i mean, when you talk about that, obviously the strategy to do that, incredibly complex. i mean, and you're not just talking here. obviously it's a state-by-state race. that's our electoral college. we just have a whole bunch of national polls coming out even in the past few moments. what is the situation overall? >> this is where you see hillary clinton now opening up a bigger national lead. take a look at our cnn poll of polls. this averages together all the recent polls that we've seen through today that have been released and hillary clinton has an eight-point edge here. 47%-39% nationally. johnson at 6%. jill stein at 2%. that's a pretty significant lead nationally. i would imagine we'll see that narrow. he's probably feeling the most effect right now in the polls,
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donald trump is, sort of from the last ten days of a really hu tough time. >> thank you. david chalian going to stay with us. now, jeffrey lord, angela rye, jackie kuchinich, and david chalian will be with us. over the polling timeframe, you had a tape, you had allegations by at least nine women. and yet here you are, two of the three swing states are within the margin of error. the one that is barely outside of it is the one where trump is on top. all right. it's pretty stunning that that is the case. why is that the case? >> i blame jeffrey. no, i'm just kidding. i think really seriously, there are a couple things. one is you look at a state like north carolina, and i can't help but to think about the fact this is still a pretty conservative state. it is something that we've thought about over time, okay, maybe this can go blue again but the reality of it is, hillary clinton is still a woman running for president. i think that that has to have something to do with it. when you look at a state like ohio, on the other hand, where even married women are trending toward trump and he's leading
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with married women, you think about the impact that trade has had. he's made very compelling arguments i think, frankly, about trade. ones she hasn't been able to counter. maybe she will at this week e's debate. those are factors that go into this that are different if you're in the rust belt or the south. >> did you expect all of this, the tape, the allegations to hurt him a little bit more? >> i thought, frankly, they might, but i really do think that some of this has to do with hillary clinton personally as a candidate, as, i mean, lots of people on both sides are sort of, particularly democrats, have rolled their eyes and thought she's a weak candidate. i mean, you would think after all of this that he'd be ahead by, you know, i mean, 50 points, i mean, a lot. okay. all right. i'm exaggerating to make a point. i'm exaggerating to make a point. she is not leading. i think this is because -- i don't think it does have to do with her being a woman. i think it has to do with the fact she's been around the political scene for 35, 25 years. people know her.
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the impressions you see in those polls, these negative things, i keep coming back to the quinnipiac poll where people can choose what they say about her and the number one was liar, the number two was dishonest. when you see that then see the different narratives of different things, the e-mails, all these sort of things, they reinforce that. that's a problem pfor her. >> on the national front, eight points, it's a pretty stunning gap you're talking about. what matters is state-by-state. if he wins the big swings, right, ohio, florida, pennsylvania, he still doesn't win. >> yeah, so think about this. if you were -- if we took our poll results that came out in those three states and those were the actual election results tonight, so she edges out a win in nevada, she edges o s out a in north carolina -- >> loses ohio. >> it's the 2012 romney/obama map with three changes. she gives up ohio and iowa, takes back north carolina. that would be a big electoral college victory for her. >> the trump campaign over the weekend opened up a war with the
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ohio gop and the trump campaign. the trump chairman basically parted ways with the ohio gop chairman. saying he wasn't being supportive of the trump campaign because he said that the video concerned him and told candidates that if you need to part ways, you part ways. they looked at that as an affront. meanwhile the ohio republican chairman is voting for donald trump and working for him. in the meantime as he is leading in ohio, he's picking fights with the ohio gop that's trying to help him win. >> look where barack obama was at the end of last weekend in cleveland. >> right. >> they're not giving up there at all. they're going to put a lot of force into ohio as well. >> does it surprise you, though, this is happening? is this going to hurt him or is ohio in your mind pretty much set here? >> oh, i don't think it's set at all. i think ohio is going to be a real true tossup battleground all the way through to november 8th. >> so the clinton campaign is up with an ad in several swing states, i want to play it, trying to link donald trump to famous bullying playing on the pop culture aspect. there's something very serious. let me just play it. >> fat boy.
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>> i'd look her right in that fat ugly face of hers. she ate like a pig. >> you're so stupid. >> how stupid are the people of the country? >> i want to see you -- >> get him out of here. get out. >> come on. >> he's like a little baby. >> come on, cry. >> oh, i don't know what i said. >> so, does that help hillary clinton, jeff, or does that actually reinforce what trump wants, which is, yeah, i can be a nasty guy, but i'm a strong man. >> i think it was a mistake for this particular commercial. you notice the reference in there to nurse ratchet. rush limbaugh, back in the '90s, started referring to hillary clinton as nurse ratchet. this has been around out there for decades and i think correctly that he's -- i checked with him tonight, he believes he's the first person to have gone there with this. for her to try and make the same -- to bring this up in the context of donald trump, i mean, this isn't going to fly. i mean, you got broaddrick out there saying she's the bully. i would stay away from this entirely. >> i think that probably only
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rush limbaugh listeners know that. i didn't know -- >> 20 million of us. >> that's pretty good. you better hope all of you turn out. i will say this, i think the ad is very effective because it's harping on something very clearly that demonstrates that donald trump is, in fact, a bully. that is appealing to our most basic values. elementary school values. we're talking about this in the greenroom, it's not about trying to get your kids to think that donald trump is a bad guy. it's about making sure that parents remember that. i think that is the key -- >> juanita broaddrick would be the answer to that. >> okay. >> that's what she accuses -- >> i don't actually -- >> that isn't having any -- there are several polls that came out today or yesterday -- today -- that said that, you know, that actually isn't really changing any minds, bringing that back up, bringing up -- >> the sexual assault against bill clinton. >> exactly. >> right. >> all right. thanks to all. next, live pictures of donald trump speaking in wisconsin. there he is in green bay. his supporters making threats. listen to them. if hillary clinton's elected. >> hillary needs to be taken
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breaking news, dronald trum about to speak in green bay, wisconsin, a big rally in the crucial battleground state. trump this weekend doubling down on his charge that the election is rigged against him. >> the election is being rigged by corrupt media pushing false allegations and outright lies. the process is rigged. this whole election is being rigged. and remember this, it's a rigged election because you have phony people coming up with phony allegations. >> this is a charge that many of his supporters agree with. miguel marquez went to see that, went to talk to those supporters at a trump rally today. here's what they said. >> listen, they got all the computers rigged. they know everything we're all doing. they're watchi ining this right,
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you know, all they need is a couple of satellites out there. >> reporter: on the campaign trail, a darker turn. trump supporters angrier than ever over claims so far basely of a rigged election. >> they probably already know who's going to win. >> you got the bush cry family, you got the clinton cry family and all that money, all money, new money, spent on rigging. >> reporter: trump, himself, fueling the conspiracy and the anger. >> this is a rigged system, folks. >> reporter: lashing out at every turn about the electoral process. >> it looks to me like a rigged election. you see what's happening. the process is rigged. it's a phony deal. >> reporter: his most ardent supporters taking the message to new levels. >> i feel like hillary needs to be taken out. if she gets in the government, i'll do everything in my power to take her out of power. >> reporter: is that a physical threat? >> i don't know, is it?
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>> reporter: trump's twitter feed full of claims but no proof. large-scale voter fraud, election is absolutely being rigged by the dishonest and distorted media and coordinated effort to steal the election." >> i've found very few situations where republicans, they don't control the inner cities. >> reporter: even some prominent surrogates echoing the claims, again, no proof offered. >> you want to tell me that i think election of philadelphia and chicago is going to be fair? i would have to be a moron to say that. >> reporter: a clinton win, say some trump adherents, amounts to a stolen election, an invitation to chaos. >> and there will be a civil war. and i don't know -- >> reporter: you think it will come to that? >> absolutely. you don't understand the passion in this country. i'm just one voice. there's a lot of people like me. >> reporter: now, there is a lot of anger among a lot of trump supporters out there. many of them believe that it is the distortions in the media as they say it that is driving that electoral problem that they say
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out there. one other thing is that the vice presidential candidate seems to be a little off message, mike pence saying that at the end of the day, both he and donald trump will support whatever the outcome november 8th. erin? >> all right. thank you very much, miguel. pretty terrifying when you heard what that man had to say. you know, drew griffin investigated the claims here. the claims of voter fraud. and that's a pretty, you know, this is what donald trump keeps saying, it's rigged, it's rigged, they're going to have voter fraud in philadelphia, in chicago. very specific. what did you find? >> we investigated their claims that they sent to us, actual cases of voter fraud. they happen. they're extremely rare. there's no proof of any kind of vast conspiracy or an attempt to rig an election. and today, several republican officials i talked to from florida to philadelphia, to oust west, believe this attempt to smear an election's validity is wrong without factual basis. what the trump campaign is doing, they're citing tiny cases of individual voter fraud. they're citing a couple of studies, one with debatable results, others they are
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misinterpreting and trying to use these cherry-picked information to conclude the entire system is rigged. it is not. we asked the trump campaign for its proof. they sent this e-mail today. this details all the facts alleged by them about fraud and we checked them out. the big one is this study. it's done by researchers at old dominion university that shows noncitizens voting in large enough numbers in some areas could effect very tight races. i talked to the author today. he admitted his data, and therefore, results, are being challenged. he admits the sample size is small, but the author tells us he stands by his study until proven otherwise and said, yes, noncitizens voting could sway a close race. he has no proof it ever happened. trump campaign cited this study, pew research, problems with voter registration, including a million dead people who are registered to vote. the study does not mention a single example of actual voter
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fraud. pew got back to us saying its study found no evidence of any fraud at polling places. trump's campaign also referenced a study done by a philadelphia city commissioner. it shows voter fraud has occurred in philadelphia, but any conclusion that it proves the system is rigged is completely false according to the author who is a republican city councilman. in the last two years, eight people in philadelphia have been convicted of voter fraud. nothing that would swing an election. >> i mean, that's pretty incredible when you think an it. now, rudy giuliani, has made another surprising claim on the issue of voter fraud. let me play that. here's rudy giuliani. >> i'm sorry, dead people usually vote for democrats rather than republicans. >> this is the issue you mentioned. dead people voting, true here for democrats? >> as evidence trump's campaign pointed us to colorado where it is true dead people have voted. according to the secretary of
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state, six to seven dead people have been voting by mail in the last several elections. six to seven people in elections where 2 million people have cast their ballots. the secretary of state's office says the minute they found out about it, they began rescrubbing the system to try to eliminate even the possibility for fraud here, but, again, it's just six to seven people, erin, and as an aside, the secretary of state's office tells me that most of these mail-in ballots, they were mail-in ballots, were mailed to homes that were traditionally republican registered. >> so the six to seven could have actually helped republicans, being obviously the bottom line. pretty stunning. all right. drew, thank you. let me bring in jeffrey toobin into this conversation now. you know, i think this was really powerful what drew did. go case by case. put out there what the trump campaign is saying then go and check it. >> facts. facts are powerful, aren't they? >> if they can go out there and say it, a lot of people not hearing any facts will say maybe it's true. he just went through it. it's not.
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>> here's another fact for you. loyola law school did a study, since 2001, 834 million votes have been cast in all elections and 35 examples of in-person voter fraud, you know, voter impersonation, illegal voting, have been -- 35 people out of 834 million votes cast. >> i mean, so you put that to rest, then, though, you have things like this. sheriff david clarke who is obviously the sheriff out in wisconsin. introducing him at this rally. just tweeted "it's incredible our institutions of government, white house, congress, doj, big media are corrupt and all we do is bitch, pitchforks and torches time." >> he's a sheriff. can you imagine? >> he's not been relieved of duty. he's a sheriff. you have the man that miguel spoke to, i'll take her out. is that a physical threat? i don't know. is it?" >> it's an ugly time. it's an ugly time. remember, this is the first
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election we're going to have where there's a lot of open-carry laws allowing people to carry weapons. will they be near polling places? trump has said, you know, people need to monitor voting places. >> right. check their precinct. >> it's perfectly appropriate to leaflet at a certain distance from polling places but voter intimidation is a very serious thing and it's a crime. how many justice department officials are there? there are tens of thousands of voting places. they can't be everywhere. so it's something that we really need to keep an eye on. >> i mean, to the republic, i think even more dangerous is voting manipulation by this misquoting of facts. >> right. >> allowing people to believe this ignorance intentional, because the facts are there. these people at the trump campaign that sent me this stuff, they've read these studies. they know what these studies say. i just -- you know, people need to -- you can't say it enough, people need to educate themselves and not just believe anything we say. you could look this up, you
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could do the research, yourself, if you wanted to. this is nothing. there's no voter fraud. that's going to sway any election. >> all right. thank you, both. and next, the breaking news. major fall wroout from donald trump's lewd videotape. billy bush officially fired from nbc. and nick paton walsh, we're live in iraq are. >> reporter: a lot of coalition planning, a lot of american air power. your insurance company
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things like that. >> right. >> you are one. >> reporter: donald trump's many visits to the "howard stern show" in the 1990s and early 2000s are coming back to haunt him. especially his comments about women. >> women are worse than men. they're more sexually aggressive than men. >> you know my wife. >> i am telling you. if they're married, they're even worse. the boob job is terrible. a person who's flat chested is hard to be a ten. >> even your daughter, ivanka, was fair game. >> she's beautiful. >> can i say this? a piece of ass. >> reporter: or an 18-year-old lindsay lohan in 2004. >> you imagine the sex with this troubled teen? >> you're probably right. she's probably deeply troubled and therefore great in bed. >> back in the day -- >> how come the deeply troubled women -- >> yes. >> -- deeply, deeply troubled -- >> right. >> -- they're always the best in bed. >> reporter: back then it was just two famous new yorkers, one celebrity bad boy talking to another. trump says it was all in good fun, and recently told dr. oz he was not thinking about his political future. >> if i ever thought i was running for president, i wouldn't have done the show or i
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would have given him very boring answers. >> reporter: this boring answer from 2002 about the looming invasion of iraq has been a friend to fact checkers. contradicting trump's claim that he opposed the war from the start. >> are you for invading iraq? >> yeah, i guess so. you know, i wish it was -- i wish the first time it was done correctly. >> reporter: stern, himself, is supporting hillary clinton, but on his show this morning, he lashed out at the steady drip of embarrassing interviews. >> why don't i play all the tapes? and i have to tell you why. i feel donald trump did the show in an effort to be entertaining and have fun with us. and i feel it would be a betrayal to any of our guests if i sat there and played them now where people are attacking him. >> reporter: but every day, it seems tapes of old interview are coming out. whether howard stern wants them to or not. >> and i want to credit the k file, they've done all this
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outstanding work, forensic work to find all of these things. >> yes. >> howard stern saying, oh, he liked to talk about women, rate them one to ten, he liked to talk about sex. pretty damning what he did say. >> indeed. >> billy bush, pretty significant he is out and it sounds like from your reporting he is out with the last word in terms of he's getting all the money. >> that's right. just in the past few minutes this deal was officially signed. nbc announcing his departure effective immediately. nbc's paying him many millions of dollars. he had a $3 million a year contract. he's essentially being paid out his contract to stay off the air. my sources are saying he has no noncompete clause. he could show up on some other tv network right away. probably not before the election, he doesn't want to address this controversy right away. he could show up on tv somewhere else in a matter of months. >> pretty stunning. all right. thank you very much. brian. and melania trump sitting down with anderson talking about the sexual allegations against her husband. that interview is coming up in 15 minutes. as you get ready for that. next, on the front lines in the battle to defeat isis. this is a stunning report from
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breaking news. a massive battle under way tonight against isis, major offensive to end isis' reign over mosul. nick paton walsh is there on the front lines. he's witnessed the fighting and is "outfront." >> reporter: they've been waiting years to finally push through the lines and take on isis' brutality. when day came, it was still a dusty, slow grind. peshmerga into the desert to flank a main road to mosul. distinctive american vehicles are with western occupants in the convoy. air strikes often hitting the places they were headed to first. hopes isis might not fight for the tiny settlement surround mosul quickly dashed. this the first village they -- they move down the road toward mosul and they're encountering pretty heavy resistance. returning fire with what they have. which are often blunt and old.
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they want this over. fast. suddenly, there's panic. they spot a car. a suicide car bomb racing toward them. it's isis. one, two, rockets try to hit it. the third is lucky. they push on toward the main prize, the road, itself, to mosul. flanked by oil fires lit by isis and air strikes piling in regardless. shells still landing near the peshmerga, a casualty taken away. down on the main objective, the road, itself, isis sent two car bombs at them an attad attacked
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both sides. the iraqi military, too, at some points will have to push down here toward mosul. this has been an effort with much international support, lot of coalition planning, american air power. >> shut the doors. whoa. >> reporter: i'll move. this yours. >> stay in the car now. >> reporter: isis still everywhere, even in the hills. they give chase to one man, an isis fighter. he shoots a peshmerga.
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humvees rescue him and they hunt on. an isis fighter pops up from a tunnel, shoots. and he blows himself up. a tenacity and desire to die that will surely slow and bloody the fight ahead. erin, what does this mean for the fight ahead? well, there had been some optimism that maybe the broad, deserted plain you saw around mosul wouldn't be fought for so hard by isis. they clearly left people as you saw there willing to die to slow down the advance of coalition and iraqi forces. that may mean the fight for the urban sprawl of mosul which is densely populated, 1.2 million people potentially trapped in there say aid agencies, well, that fight could be bloodier and messier than previously thought. we could be in for a months'-long trauma here for these people who have already lived under years of isis control, erin.
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every week, the presidential candidates are mocked on "snl," but donald trump is not laughing. here's jeanne moos. >> reporter: maybe it was alec baldwin portraying him as "jaws." >> number two, no lifetime limits -- >> reporter: that made donald trump want to bite back. >> and number three -- >> reporter: on "snl," the donald called it a hit job on me. time to retire the boring and unfunny show. alec baldwin portrayal stinks." >> and number four -- >> reporter: baldwin, himself, must not have been too hurt because he retweeted trump's insult. and to think donald, himself, has graced "snl" over the years -- ♪ call me on the cell phone >> reporter: apparently before it was boring and unfunny.
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>> a special thing, it's a great honor. you know, it's like a feather in your cap. >> reporter: okay. so trump says baldwin stinks, but what does hillary think about how she's been portrayed? >> when kate mckinnon came out with the walker, i thought i was going to fall off my chair. >> i'd like to begin tonight by attempting a casual lean. >> reporter: obviously, "snl" won't be saying sorry to trump. >> i deeply aplogize. >> are you trying to say apologize? >> no, i would never do that. >> reporter: another thing trump almost never does, have you ever seen donald trump laugh? you rarely see the donald genuinely cracking up. we found only a couple instances from this campaign. the jolliest was when a screech interrupted a trump rally. >> this is something you shouldn't -- [ screech ] what was that, was that a dog? >> hillary! >> uh-oh.
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it's hillary. >> reporter: bet you won't catch the donald doing this while watching "snl." >> wrong, wrong, wrong. >> reporter: jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> and thanks so much for joining us. "a.c. 360" starts now. good evening, thanks for joining us. tonight, my conversation with melania trump. she speaks out about the tape that surfaced about her husband boasting about being able to kiss and grope women and get away with it because he's a celebrity. she reacts to the women coming forwar forward. in a moment, how she sees herself as first lady should her husband win three weeks from tomorrow. which is where we begin. with the trump campaign making new allegations that this election is rigged and a fraud, slamming the media, even slamming his own party's leadership for not confronting what he now appears to see as the defining theme of the campaign. donald trump is in green bay, wisconsin, tonight, after attacking wisconsin congressman, house speaker p