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do you make the same commitment that you will absolutely, sir, that you will absolutely accept the result of this election? >> i will look at it at the time. i will tell you at the time. i'll keep you in suspense. >> that's horrifying. you know, every time donald thinks things are not going in his direction he claims whatever it is is rigged against him. >> and good morning, i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me. may be the single most shocking moment in an election season riddled with name calling and ugliness. a defiant nominee challenging a pillar of american democracy and refusing to say that he will accept the outcome of the
election. all of this less than three weeks before americans choose their next president. we have a lot to cover. let's begin in las vegas with manu raju. good morning. >> good morning, carol. this was supposed to be the debate that would turn around donald trump's fortunes. and at the beginning of the debate he was executing a policy argument that conservatives like to hear about abortion. but the supreme court. about the second amendment. but then hillary clinton got under his skin about russia. and then he made this comment about the election that has overshadowed everything. donald trump refusing to say he will accept the election results. >> i will look at it at the time. i'm not looking at anything now. i'll look at it at the time. >> are you saying you're not prepared -- >> what i'm saying is that i will tell you at the time. i'll keep you in suspense. >> well, chris, let me respond to that because that's horrifying. every time donald thinks things
are not going in his direction, he claims whatever it is is rigged against him. >> reporter: trump suggesting hillary clinton's e-mail use is disqualifying. >> she shouldn't be allowed to run. it's -- she's guilty of a very, very serious crime. >> reporter: clinton changing the subject of her wall street speeches to russia. and pressuring the gop nominee to condemn russia for hacking and stealing democratic records. trump taking the bait. >> will donald trump admit and condemn that the russians are doing this and make it clear that he will not have the help of putin in this election. that he rejects russian espionage against americans, which he actually encouraged in the past. >> i don't know putin. he said nice things about me. if we got along well, that would be good. if russia and the united states got along well and went after isis that would be good. he has no respect for her. he has no respect for our
president. and i'll tell you what, we are in
very serious trouble. from everything i see has no respect for this person. >> well, that's because he'd rather have a puppet as president. >> no puppet. >> you condemn their interference? >> of course i condemn. >> reporter: throughout the night trump repeatedly interrupting her and attacking her. >> a very clear fact -- >> wrong. excuse me, my turn. such a nasty woman. >> reporter: trump did have a strong start sparring with clinton on issues that play well with conservatives, like abortion. >> based on what she's saying and based on where she's going and where she's been, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb in the ninth month. on the final day and that's not acceptable. >> using that kind of scare rhetoric is just terribly unfortunate. you should meet with some of the women that i've met with. women i've known over the course
of my life. is one of the worst possible choices that any woman and her family has to make. i do not believe the government should be making it. >> reporter: trump even going as far as claiming his pro-life supreme court picks would automatically overturn roe v. wade, something he can't guarantee. later clinton hitting back on immigration. >> when it comes to the wall that donald talks about building. he went to mexico and had a meeting with the mexican president. didn't even raise it, he choked. >> first of all, i had a nice meeting with the president of mexico. very nice man. >> reporter: trump raising eyebrows to this question of deporting undocumented immigrants. >> we'll make a determination to the rest, but we have some bad hombres here and we'll get them out. >> reporter: once again, rejecting the growing number of accusations from several women of making unwanted advances. >> because their stories are all totally false. i have to say that. i didn't even apologize to my
wife who is sitting right here because i didn't do anything. i didn't know any of these women. i didn't see these women. these women, the woman on the plane, the woman -- i think they want either fame or her campaign did it. and i think it's her campaign. >> donald thinks belittling women makes him bigger. he goes after their dignity, their self-worth and i don't think there is a woman anywhere who doesn't know what that feels like. so, we now know what donald thinks and what he says and how he acts towards women. that's who donald is. >> now, republicans close to the campaign realize how damaging his comments about possibly not accepting the election results are. trying to do damage control both last night and this morning. here's kellyanne conway speaking on "new day" earlier this morning. >> i've his campaign khanger, his running mate, his daughter we've all said the same thing.
absent widespread fraud or indices of irregularity. but please don't say he said quote unless i win -- >> he didn't say it. he said i won't tell you until then. he didn't what you said either. he didn't say oh, look if there's a huge irregularity or something like that then florida we have to look at it. he didn't say that. he said i don't know. i'll look at it when it happens. i want to keep you in suspense. he didn't say what you said. >> he was supposed to give ten or twelve different hypotheticals? >> now, carol i can tell you republicans have been e-mailing with are nervous about not just the debate performance but donald trump's overall standing. they're worried that he's going to continue to tank in the polls, and the bottom could fall out and cost republicans control of congress. so we'll see how this plays out in the coming weeks. but a lot of nerves in republican circles right now, carol. >> manu raju reporting live from las vegas. even talk show host laura ingraham, a passionate trump supporter, tweeted he, trump, should have said he would accept the results of the election. there is no other option unless
we're in a recount again. the response to ingraham's tweet, this is from an ingraham follower. this is what a woman tweeted, quote, there's another option. it's called the second amendment. if you think we will tolerate this you're mistaken. went on to tweet the second amendment is meant to protect yourself from a tyrannical government. so let's talk about this. todd graham is a debate director of southern illinois university. the assistant editor at "the washington post," the national political reporter for "the new york times," and cnn senior political reporter is here. nia-malika i want to start with you and that tweet from a laura ingraham follower. that's exactly why even many republicans are saying you can't go around insisting that the system is rigged, and that you're not going to accept the results, of the election. >> yeah, and we saw this happen at a mike pence rally, right, when a woman stood up and said
if hillary clinton wins she would be ready for a revolution. and and it doesn't help right that donald trump when he speaks to his supporters, his followers, he basically says that electing hillary clinton means the end of the country. means the end of american sovereignty. so you do have this heated rhetoric around this rigged system which has a racialized overlay, as well. right? i mean rudy giuliani as well as donald trump basically saying that this kind of rigging and this kind of voter fraud is going to happen in cities, it's going happen with illegal immigrants who are showing up in droves and voting illegally. so, it's more of a -- more of the same. in many ways, and i think you know, to listen to manu's report there, and to hear about the nervous republicans, i mean, i think we really get to see that donald trump is ending this campaign where he began it. right? i mean, there he is with sarah palin who is in some ways donald trump before donald trump was donald trump back in 2008 there
he is with malik obama at that debate, there he is also stoking some of of the division there using the word hombre when he was talking about illegal immigration. >> right. >> and what he would do about it. and i think the polls show that. i mean in some ways we've had a very steady race, donald trump has been behind -- >> mm-hmm. >> -- hillary clinton has been overperforming almost -- >> well, well -- >> every demographic group. >> i want to center on this rigged election because i do think it's so very important. what is donald trump exactly trying to accomplish here by saying things like this? >> i'm not exactly sure what he wants to accomplish. honestly, it does sort of play in to donald trump, his history. his history is that he's not a very good loser and he doesn't like it when things don't go well. now the problem and perhaps he hasn't factored in, maybe he has, is that he now has followers that are sometimes frightening. perhaps even on edge, and anyone like me who has ever made
negative comments about donald trump in the press, or his debating ability, or his policies, we know exactly what who those people are because we've heard from them and they're frightening. and now they're following him when he says things like he doesn't know if he'll follow the election results. i mean, that's did that's pretty scary. >> and you kind of wonder, if hillary clinton wins what election day might look like. >> i mean this is really going to be the key to a clinton administration if she is elected. i talked to so many supporters of donald trump who say they do not trust her. that they are buying into this idea that this election is going to be rigged. that she's a criminal who really belongs in jail. she's going to have to face how she deals with this country and brings people together. the idea that she's already called some of his supporters deplorable has really cast doubts among a lot of these supporters on whether or not she's going to be their president. you can imagine in the first hopefully 100 days of her administration that she's going to be going there trying to talk about the fact that we're now that this election is over, we're supposed to come together as a country and it's going to
be really important that the people she puts in office, and the people that she fills her cabinet with, they are really focused on that. >> so david it does make you wonder if mr. trump does lose this election, will he concede? will he come out on stage and will he call you know on the phone and congratulate hillary clinton as the winner? >> carol, you know, i can imagine a scenario where if secretary clinton has enough of a margin, trump will have to find some kind of way of acknowledging that at least on the surface, he lost. but here i think is it presents two problems for donald trump. one -- just in the way he made his statement last night. one, there was a way for him to finesse this. if he was sincerely worried about voter fraud he could have said look, i fully anticipate, you know, being accepting the verdict of the american people win or lose on november 8th. but, my team and my lawyers are going to make sure, do everything we can to prevent any kind of voter fraud which we believe may may happen in some places around the country. he could have said that.
instead, he left it at this, we'll see. we'll see. everything with him, this is his other problem, is a big reveal. right? just like a few weeks ago. show up at the trump hotel reporters, and i may or may not tell you what i think about president obama's citizenship. ladies and gentlemen of the american public, let's see what happens on november 8th. maybe i'll concede. maybe i won't. and that i think is indicative of the donald trump we've seen throughout this campaign. >> so nia-malika does hillary clinton have to win by a land slide for voters to accept her victory? >> you know, in some ways i think those hard core donald trump supporters, even if he concedes, they're likely to be very much stuck in the same place, in terms of thinking that this campaign was stolen. i mean, remember what happened in the wake of 2008. barack obama, in a landslide victory, but there was this group of people, republicans and conservatives, who constantly questioned the legitimacy of his
presidency by claiming that he wasn't born in america. i other thing about donald trump, even if he concedes that night do we really think he's going to stick to that position? i mean here is someone who, who might say something on cnn and then tell sean hannity something else i mean he is someone who likes to do that and likes to draw attention to his to to you know changing his mind. so you you know i think in some ways whether he concedes or not, the american democracy will remain intact. it doesn't hinge on what donald trump does i mean donald trump should he lose on election day he's not going back to the senate. he's not going back to a governor's mansion. he's going back to trump tower, and he'll have his twitter accounts, he won't have a standing army. he won't have a party. he barely has a party now. so i think in in some ways this idea of, of, of you know american democracy hinging on what donald trump does should he lose is a little bit overblown. >> okay.
and, and, and todd i'll throw this one to you because i've seen the head line in more than one place. donald trump said something incredibly damaging when he said he wouldn't accept the results of -- of the election, right? so, many people are wondering, does he really want to win this thing? >> yeah, it's a really good question. i actually wrote in my column for cnn.com today that he actually fulfilled his debating strategy last night. i gave him straight "as" on fulfilling his strategy. the problem is he had a losing strategy. his strategy was to not be truthful, and to debate for his base. but they're already voting for him. it almost seems like in these debates he's doing everything absolutely wrong. i mean his strategy is the worst disaster in the history -- oh, well you've heard that before. so anyway, my point is that i'm not sure what his plan is. i'm not sure if he's trying to set up for something after the election. but, certainly he didn't seem to be debating with a strategy that was designed to win votes.
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hillary clinton calls donald trump vladimir putin's puppet. and he calls clinton this. >> that's part of my commitment to raise taxes on the wealthy. my social security payroll contribution will go up, as will donald's assuming he can't figure out how to get out of it. but what we want to do is to replenish the social security trust fund -- >> such a nasty woman. >> okay with an online now owning the term nasty woman, one voter tweeting quote i'm
dressing up as a nasty woman for halloween by which i mean i will dress as a competent, calm and brilliant woman. a reporter for the huffington post wrote quote i, too, am a nasty woman. if nasty means smarter than you, and pissed about it. teen vogue using trump's jab as a call to action for young 2350e male voters quote retweet if you're a nasty woman who's headed to the polls to vote for your rights. let's bring back our political panel. welcome back all of you. okay, so, kamiche, was this helpful in kwarnerring independent women? >> i don't think it was very helpful in garnering independent women but i should say in this debate he's calling her a nasty woman but the last debate he called her the devil and had this idea he was someone who was terrible so this idea of casting hillary clinton as someone who is despicable as someone who is not just an opponent but someone who really is untrustworthy and to belongs in jail kind of goes to his message so he's really just i think feeding red meat to his base and a lot of the women
that i've talked to, undecided republican women who he wants to bring in to the fold, they don't really take issue with this surprisingly on the women i've talked to say this is politics and that hillary clinton doesn't deserve to be running for president. so a lot of the women he's appealing to and the ones i've talked to really don't take issue with this. of course when we talk about suburban educated women who are undecided they of course are going to take issue with this because they don't see that as presidential. they don't think that calling hillary clinton a nasty woman says anything about whether or not he's going to be able to create jobs or fix the economy. >> well, david i have to agree with kamiche because i, too, went to ohio last week and a lot of women there think hillary clinton is a nasty woman. >> yeah, in the last cnn/orc battleground poll in ohio, ohio was that one state where married women particularly were still quite a bit away from secretary clinton. donald trump was up 54-40% among married women. i actually am starting to really think that trump is going to win ohio and break that away from
clinton. whether or not she wins or loses i think that's one that's kind of slipped out of her grasp. but in other battleground states in national polls we've seen that women particularly single women, women of color, younger women, are moving away from trump precisely for what he did in that debate. he can disagree with secretary clinton on policy, carol, but to call her a nasty woman, the way he sort of talks down to her, in all manner of ways, throughout all three debates, does not play well with that narrow slice of people left particularly women who are persuadable, who are in the middle, who are independent, in swing states, and even though like todd said before the break he had a strategy that did sort of work to shore up his core 35 or 40% of the electorate that supports him no matter what. he needs more than that and i'm not sure he accomplished any of that last night. >> so let's talk about an issue that was talked about, the abortion issue, right? so mr. trump doubled down intimating that women get
abortions the very day before their babies are born. listen. >> well, i think it's terrible, if you go with what hillary is saying in the ninth month you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother just prior to the birth of the baby. now you can say that that's okay and hillary can say that that's okay, but it's not okay with me. because based on what she's saying and where she's going and where she's been you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb in the ninth month. on the final day. >> well, that is not what happens in these cases. and using that kind of scare rhetoric is just terribly unfortunate. >> okay so that rarely, if ever happens, that women get abortions the day before their babies are born. but that probably appealed to very strongly pro-life people nia-malika so did it move the
needle at all? >> no, you know, i think it reaffirmed for a lot of pro- -- pro-life voters, evangelicals, conservatives, that donald trump is where he -- where he needs to be on this issue. but i you know this is remarkable what we saw last night. hillary clinton the -- the first nominee for a major party for -- for the white house making a robust defense of abortion. and one of the things she said was that do we want to live in a country, and she compared it to other countries, where women are forced to carry their babies to term, all women, that the government can do that. she also mentioned planned parenthood right? a robust defense of planned parenthood and the thing that she knows about planned parenthood is that planned parenthood has a 59% approval rating. donald trump doesn't have that kind of approval rating. obama doesn't have that kind of approval rating. and neither does hillary clinton. so, so, with independent women,
that's going to play really well i think. but again, i think what donald trump is him shoring up his base, but, but hillary clinton also knowing that there's a broader cross section of people out there women and men who use planned parenthood and who've had to make the difficult decision to end pregnancy. >> so, todd, i think that, you know, when clinton was talking about the clinton global initiative, and taking donations from countries who don't exactly value women, actually abuse women and donald trump says that you know the clinton global foundation should give that money back to those countries. was that an effective line of questioning? >> no that doesn't even make any sense to me. so if she's getting money and using it for her charity that's great. but, i don't know why she would -- when i watched that i just said why on earth would she give the money back to these bad -- isn't it better that she takes their money? so no i mean and we all know that in politics you, you know, charities or whatever you take
the money where you can get it. so i didn't think that was a very effective strategy plus if you remember, it was in that line of analysis that he said that they had been hurting the lgbt communities but he actually said the gays. like that. and it's very difficult, as one of the gays to really understand and/or empathize with him when he talks about us like that. >> i have to end it there. thanks to all of you. still to come in the "newsroom," some trump supporters say they will refuse to accept a loss on election day. with one offering a threat of violence. we'll talk about that next. but first, we're just moments away from the opening bell on wall street. christine romans joins us now with a quick look at what's ahead. >> hi, carol. three, three debates now in the history books and so now investors are looking forward, and frankly, global market investors think that donald trump did not make up any ground last night and they are basically pricing in a hillary clinton presidency at this point. that means the focus for investors turning to other
things like the fed. when will the fed raise interest rates? it looks like chances every day are rising that the fed will raise interest rates in december. and then there are earnings in the near term to get through, carol, banks have been a little bit better on the earnings front than we had feared. but you're going to see hundreds of millions of dollars of losses for companies as they report their earnings in the oil patch. so we'll be watching oil, we'll be watching fed guessing. and we will be watching the markets here today. carol? >> and we do appreciate it. thank you christine romans. the new cnn money stream app is here your favorite business topics all in one feed every story video and tweet hand picked just for you. download it now on your iphone or android device. mobility is very important to me. that's why i use e*trade mobile. it's on all my mobile devices, so it suits my mobile lifestyle.
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and good morning, i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me. it was fight night in vegas. donald trump and hillary clinton trading barbs on the debate stage for the last time before election day. but the american electoral system may have been the one taking the punches. as mr. trump says he will refuse to concede if he loses the race. >> do you make the same commitment that you will absolutely, sir, that you will absolutely accept the result of this election. >> i will look at it at the time. >> are you saying you're not prepared now to -- >> what i'm saying is that i will tell you at the time. i'll keep you in suspense. >> let me respond to that, because that's horrifying. you know, every time donald thinks things are not going in his direction he claims whatever it is is rigged against him. that is not the way our democracy works. we've been around for 240 years. we've had free and fair elections, we've accepted the outcomes when we may not have
liked them. and that is what must be expected of anyone standing on a debate stage during a general election. >> trump's performance sparking a swift back lash from some republicans. ted cruz's former campaign manager tweeting, hold it together, man. it's all on the line. not just you, all of us. trump critic arizona governor -- or arizona senator rather jeff flake tweeted donald trump saying that he might not accept election results is beyond the pale. so let's talk about this. i'm joined by donald trump supporter and former new york lieutenant governor betsy mccoy along with cnn political commentator and hillary clinton supporter sally cohn. >> first of all he did not say he would refuse to accept. that's the distortion. he said wait and see -- >> -- suspense. >> wait and see. that's different from refusing. >> so much better. >> let me point out that if nixon had not automatically conceded to lbj and kennedy in
1960, despite large evidence of voter fraud in texas and illinois, now confirmed by historians, we would not be suffering with the -- >> president nixon never -- >> -- the vietnam war -- >> that he would not accept the result. >> doesn't matter what he said ahead of time -- >> yes it does. >> -- this nation has been victimized by rampant election fraud -- >> no, no, no -- >> so much evidence of it this year. >> don't say it's not true. >> i'd like to cite the evidence -- >> just a moment. >> we have cited the evidence so many times on cnn -- >> this is irresponsible and dangerous and reckless. >> foundation says one out of every eight voter registrations is either a dead person, a duplicate, or an illegal voter -- >> but the secretary of state who manages the elections in the state of ohio -- >> a republican. >> a republican. who's going to vote for mr. trump, by the way, strongly saying that there is no evidence of widespread election fraud -- >> of course not. >> in the state of ohio or the nation. so let's dispense with that >> the new york city election commissioner said the other day
there is rampant fraud in new york. >> there is not rampant -- >> and mayor de blasio said shut up, kid, the incumbent always protects the system. >> i can't. there's no evidence. >> there's no evidence of voter fraud. >> excuse me -- >> the cooperative congressional research report cited by "the washington post" points out that somewhere between 2% and 5% -- >> betsy please i can't. i can't. trz not -- >> that's not true -- >> i'm going to have to cut this interview short. >> you don't want people to hear the evidence? facts. >> i have presented the evidence to my viewers and my viewers trust me to tell them the truth. we cited studies. i've talked to secretaries of state who are republicans. i've talked to many republican officials -- >> secretaries of state are elected. they're part of the system. >> you know what, i'm sorry. listen. this isn't okay anymore. i'm, i'm, i'm with the nasty woman in the pant suit. this is horrible. you are threatening the integrity of our democratic
presidency -- >> no i want to be honest. >> excuse me you are. you are threatening by the way what makes this country great. we are not a country that transitions power through violence and threats -- >> that's right. >> -- hold your thoughts -- >> i understand the value of a peaceful transition of power from one party to the next. >> betsy -- >> but i don't understand why the democratic party repeatedly insists on defending fraudulent voter rolls. >> because it's not happening! listen there were a billion votes. low owe to study -- >> loyal la -- >> and what about the media bias. what about the irs, suppressing conservative groups. >> can i speak? >> what about the project veritas tape that showed that -- >> i thought you were talking about alleged voter fraud -- >> they're busing people illegally from polling place to polling place -- >> i'm going to stop this right now. i want us to take a break and i want my great wonderful producers to pull the secretary of state from the state of ohio, a trump supporter, and a republican, talking about
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all right. we were talking about alleged widespread voter fraud. there is no such thing, and i'm about to show you why. i spoke just a few days ago with the secretary of state of the state of ohio, his name is john husted. he is a republican. he is a trump supporter. he is in charge of the electoral process in the state of ohio. here's what he told me just a few days ago. >> i can reassure donald trump, i am in charge of elections in ohio. and they're not going to be rigged. at institutions like our election system is one of the b bedrocks of american democracy. we should not question it. or the legitimacy of it. it works very well in places like ohio. we make it easy to vote. and hard to cheat. we have a bipartisan system of elections. frankly, it's the only place you can find democrats and republicans working
cooperatively together. it's bipartisan. it's transparent. and there's -- there's just no justification for concern about widespread voter fraud. >> okay. there you have it from a republican. and a donald trump supporter. from the state of ohio. kellyanne conway, who is donald trump's chair, right, she came out just wednesday and said there is no widespread voter fraud in this country. listen. >> do you believe there will be widespread voter fraud? >> no, i do not believe that. >> so absent overwhelming evidence that there is, it would not be for me to say that there is. >> all right. now i'm going to talk about the pew report that you cited, betsy. proving supposedly that there is voter fraud because 1.8 million deceased individuals are registered. okay, so if you really look at that pew report, the report did not allege that 1.8 million deceased people actually voted.
rather, pew said that it is evidence of the need to upgrade voter registration systems. there's absolutely no evidence at all that those 1.8 million deceased people actually voted, because they caught it. >> correct. >> no but i'd like to point out that the cooperative congressional research report -- >> betsy let's just put this to bed. put it to bed. >> here's why i think it's so -- >> here's why i think it's so dangerous to keep talking about this. >> dangerous? >> laura ingraham -- >> to get to the truth? irresponsible. >> let me tell you why, laura ingraham who is a passionate donald trump supporter she tweeted last night, trump, he said, trump should have said he would accept the results of the election. there is no other option unless we're in a recount again. that's from laura ingraham. >> well, i -- >> wait, wait. there was a response to that tweet. there's a response to that ingraham tweet. and here it is. there's another option this woman tweeted, it's called the second amendment. if you think we will tolerate
this you're mistaken. >> no would associate with that kind of discussion of violence -- >> actually donald trump kind of set that one up himself. didn't he? >> it's not fair to take some wacko woman and associate her with me or with a presidential candidate. >> i'm not associating with her. i'm just saying that -- >> well you are by reading them together. let me -- when there's not -- >> yesterday project veritas released film firsthand films that show people who said they are under contract to the dnc claiming two things. that they hire agitators to create violence at the donald trump events. and that they bus people from polling place to polling place for repeat voting. it's important to be vigilant. i'm not asserting widespread voter fraud. but after all al franken for example in his state won by 312 votes. so we should always -- >> there are rules put into
place when there's a close election that you can contest the election and then -- >> that's what al gore did. >> i'm sorry but this is -- >> salary, last word. >> this is dangerously irresponsible. everyone knows what donald trump is doing here. because look he undermines -- excuse me i did give you your turn. he undermined president obama's presidency in the first place, as did many republicans by suggesting he wasn't even american citizen. he wasn't shouldn't be president he questioned that long after the proof that he should have never had to provided was proven. and now, it's not enough for donald trump to just lose. he is losing. let's be clear. if he loses it is because of no one but himself. because of his complete lack of qualifications, and lack of temperament -- >> we all want an honest system. >> he can't accept that he's losing. so he's going to try and take down our entire democracy with him and undermine faith in that democracy by the american people. out of a billion votes cast between 2000 and 2014 there were 31 possible, not even proven, but possible examples of fraud. >> that's not according to the
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the debate ratings are in. if the fire storm on social media last night wasn't enough to call it, now it is official. a lot of people were watching. cnn's brian stelter joins me live to tell us more. good morning. >> good morning. i looked into the early overnight numbers. this debate meets in the middle between debate number one and number two. the first debate was a record in american history, 84 million viewers. the second debate fell down to 66 million. this third debate will rank
somewhere in between the two. i think it is notable this debate ticked up from debate number two because one of the theories after the town hall debate was that people were just sick and tired of this and couldn't take this politics anymore. well, there was a bigger audience last night. that's partly because there was no football game competing with the debate. there was a big baseball game, though, so it's interesting. so many viewers did tune in. i think when the final numbers come in later today, it will be 70 or 75 million viewers which is a huge number. much higher than the third debate in 2008 or 2012. just another sign that americans are obsessed with this election. maybe scared, maybe excited, but definitely tuning in. >> i must say, chris wallace was amazing. he did an amazing job. i just wanted to send my kudos to him. >> yeah. the reviews have been unanimous for chris wallace. what an enormous opportunity for him and he really took advantage of it. he's been praised by both sides and by the journalists who were watching. >> brian stelter, many thanks as usual.
one of the biggest prizes on the map, my home state of ohio. 18 electoral votes up for grabs and trump holds a narrow lead there. he's on the ground in the buckeye state today. hillary clinton is there tomorrow and i will be, too. back in the good old days my dad worked here at republic steel. he worked inside that factory for 30 years. back then 4,000 people worked at republic steel. today, just about 200 work behind those factory walls. join me tomorrow morning from 9:00 a.m. to 11:00 a.m. eastern. i will be live in columbus talking about the issues that matter most to ohio and the rest of the country in these critical days, final days of the race. we'll be right back.
attacking isis' last strong hold from the north and from the east where arwa damon came under gunfire a few hours ago. >> reporter: here on the outskirts of town is where the battle is intensifying. the counter terrorism unit moving in is really laying down with everything it has. they are not entirely sure what to expect as they begin to move through street by street to clear it of isis fighters. >> we go to cnn's clarissa ward who is with forces east of mosul. hi, clarissa. >> reporter: hi, carol. just this morning, the iraqi prime minister said that in fact, the progress for mosul is going much better than he expected. he said that in fact, they are making better progress, that things are moving quite swiftly on the ground, but from what we are seeing here at this vantage
point, it's a slightly different story. this town behind me has been getting pummeled by artillery, by air force jets and air strikes all throughout the day. we have been hearing heavy amounts of fire going in there but the ground offensive to actually start to liberate that town still is not going on yet. i think what this gives you a sense of is just how difficult it is, just how slow and methodical and plodding. we are talking village by village, going through methodically, trying to rout isis militants. it only takes a few dozen of them to inflict quite a lot of damage. we are hearing from the syrian observatory of human rights that dozens of yazidi women who were held as sex slaves by isis have now been moved from mosul to the isis stronghold of raqqah in of course syria. that gives you a sense that isis is preparing, they are making
contingency plans as the battle for the city of mosul gets closer to them. >> clarissa ward reporting from the battlefield in iraq. thanks so much. the next hour of "cnn newsroom" starts now. do you make the same commitment that you will absolutely, sir, that you will absolutely accept the result of this election? >> i will look at it at the time. i will tell you at the time. i will keep you in suspense. >> that's horrifying. every time donald thinks things are not going in his direction, he claims whatever it is is rigged against him. good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me. donald trump still managing to shock despite an ugly election season that's left many voters calloused from the insults. the defiant nominee challenging a pillar of american democracy, refusing to say he will accept the outcome of the election. all of this less than three weeks before americans choose
their next president. so both the trump and clinton campaigns fan out across battleground states that are still up for grabs and today, both campaigns are boasting that they won. undecided voters in a debate that was ugly, angry and sometimes shocking, here are some of the key moments. >> assuming he can't figure out how to get out of it, but what we want to do is to replenish -- >> such a nasty woman. >> do you condemn any interference by russia in the american election? >> i don't know putin. he said nice things about me. if we got along well, that would be good. >> well, that's because he would rather have a puppet as president. >> no puppet. no puppet. >> it's pretty clear -- >> you're the puppet. >> we have some bad hombres here and we are going to get them out. excuse me. my turn. >> why would so many different women from so many different circumstances over so many different years, why would they all me