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so, we continue on on this monday afternoon. i'm brooke baldwin. this is cnn. hillary clinton is campaigning right now in the walgts ground state of ohio. she just addressed the controversy right off the bat with that crowd over the newly discovered e-mails belonging to her right-hand woman and colleague, huma abedin. you'll hear that in just a moment. first, federal investigators are poring through what is believed to be thousands upon thousands of e-mails belonging to abedin. they were found on a laptop belonging to her now estranged husband, disgraced former congressman, anthony weiner. that search was part of a separate investigation, that sexting investigation, involving weiner and an underage girl. but, it is the fbi director, james comey, who is now under fire. critics accusing him of meddling, you just heard that
last conversation. critics say he's meddling in the election by making this bombshell announcement, really in the form of a letter to congress that got leaked, you know, days before voters cast their ballot without knowing how significant these e-mails are. let's begin the hour with pamela brown, our justice correspondent, on the e-mails, on the timetable. pamela, do we know when the review could be complete, when the conclusion could be out there? >> well, i'll tell you this, brooke, it's unlikely that will happen before the election. it's a multi-pronged process. so, we know right now fbi agents at fbi facilities in quantico are using special software to catalog the e-mails and weed out the ones that aren't relevant and take the ones that are relevant and go through them and see if there's classified information and see whether, if there is classified information, whether the person sending that knew that it was classified. that takes time because you have to go to all these different agencies and consult with them to see if it is classified.
so, we know the cataloging process takes a couple of days but it's that other part that takes a while. so, that will likely wrap up after election. the question is, brooke, at what point when the fbi has a good sense of the substance of these e-mails will it be addressed, if at all, before the election? as we know, director james comey has been silent ever since he set off that political firestorm by sending that letter to congress on friday saying these new e-mails surfaced. we know that huma abedin, the estranged wife of anthony weiner, has said she doesn't know how her e-mails ended up on this computer that was taken as part of that sexting investigation. officials we've been speaking with say they have no reason at this point in the investigation not to believe her. they don't believe at this point she was obstructing justice, but there's still a lot we don't know, and that's key. there could be something in these e-mails. there could be nothing in these e-mails. we're still very early on in
this process. and you don't know what you don't know, brooke. >> but we're talking about it and that's not necessarily what the democrats want. they wanted the conversation turned to trump. pam, thank you very much. now, donald trump, on the other hand, he is seizing upon this new controversy in this final push right before election day. just a short time ago, he thanked huma abedin and anthony weiner for clinton's woes, all the while applauding the fbi director. >> and i have to give the fbi credit. that was so bad what happened originally and it took guts for director comey to make the move that he made in light of the kind of opposition he had where they're trying to protect her from criminal prosecution. you know that. it took a lot of guts. i really disagreed with him. i was not his fan, but i'll tell you what, what he did, he brought back his reputation.
>> cnn's senior washington correspondent, jeff zeleny is at the clinton rally there in ohio. so, especially what she's saying, there is no case here. >> exactly, that's what she did say, brooke. it's interesting she addressed this at all. we were told by her advisers earlier she was trying to turn to donald trump. of course, that includes trying to explain and trying to raise some questions about this whole fbi situation. here at this rally on the campus of kent state university, hillary clinton starting the week off addressed this head-on. let's take a listen to what she said. >> i'm sure a lot of you may be asking what this new e-mail story is about and why in the world the fbi would decide to jump into an election with no evidence of any wrongdoing with just days to go.
that's a good question. first of all, for those of you who are concerned about my using personal e-mail, i understand. as i've said, i'm not making excuses. it was a mistake and i regret it it. now they apparently want to look at e-mails of one of my staffers. by all means, they should look at them. and i am sure they will reach the same conclusion they did when they looked at my e-mails for the last year. there is no case here. >> reporter: brooshgs a mix of defiance, i would think, in there, as well as trying not to be overly defensive, and acknowledging this e-mail controversy, her decision to use a private e-mail server as secretary of state back in 2009 is still hanging over her to this date as we draw closer to the election. she knows she still needs to apologize for this. that is something we don't hear very often from the podium, from the campaign trail here.
she's done it in interviews and things saying, look, i made a mistake again. they know time is running short. the key question is they know democrats aren't that concerned about it. most of them have probably made their minds up about it. it's a slice of independents and republicans who were considering her. that's why her campaign aides believe these polls have gotten closer. the race is tightening here because people who are questions and doubts about hillary clinton once upon a time have them again now. that's why she addressed it head-on. she devoted the majority of her speech to going after donald trump here. she just started it with that e-mail controversy that's playing out here in ohio and in all of these battleground states across the country. >> got it. jeff, thank you so much in ohio. we'll continue on. we'll talk about the fbi director. let's begin with the politics first. gloria borger is with us, and ryan liza is back, washington correspondent for "the new yorker." interesting to listen to jeff
how hillary clinton is addressing it at the top of the rally. we also heard from josh earnest today, the press secretary at the white house. let me quote him. he says the president doesn't believe he, he, james comey, is secretly strategizing to benefit one candidate or one political party. he's in a tough spot. talk to me about the tough spot that the president's in because we know he's stumping four different times this week for hillary clinton. >> reporter: well, as josh earnest pointed out, there's a separation of powers here. and the president cannot tell somebody in the fbi or the justice department what to do. so, josh earnest was trying to thread the needle there. while he was saying they can't comment on it one way or another, he also made the point very deftly that there are certain norms they would hope are being adhered too. by certain norms, you know, reading into that, one of those norms would not be commenting on
a political matter six days before an election, which clearly occurred here with mr. comey's comments. so, he took a step back and he took a step into it. without involving the president at all. >> so, then, ryan, i'm thinking about in these final eight days, independents or even republicans who were thinking, i'll be with her, but because of this news, and, again, we don't know what's in these e-mails, that's the tricky part, how will they potentially be influenced? >> you know, the two polls that came out yesterday suggested that it's not really changing a whole lot of people's minds. there was a battleground poll of 13 states that said 71% of voters said this won't make any difference. and a lot of the voters who said it will make a difference are already voting for trump, partisan republicans. a similar poshlgs i believe it
was the axe pobc poll, two-thir saying no difference. a lot have already voted and those that haven't have already made up their minds, especially as it relates to hillary clinton and the e-mails. i'm frankly, a little surprised that the clinton campaign is actually still talking about this. >> right. >> you would think that in the final days they would want to move off this. and just to foul up on one thing gloria said about the relationship between comey and the white house and the presidents, i do believe it's important to point out the reason james comey became the face of this investigation is two-fold. one, go back to last year when obama was asked about this investigation on "60 minutes." he said it's something a lot of people on the right interrupted as prejudging the outcome. he basically said he didn't believe hillary clinton did anything wrong. then you had loretta lynch, the attorney general, in charge of the justice department, making herself compromised because she
melt with bill clinton, the subject's husband. so, you have the two -- comey's two bosses kind of taking themselves off the playing field and in the eyes of some making this more political. that's why loretta lynch the other day, what could she have done? she could have ordered her employee, james comey, not to send that letter. but she felt that would have made this into a bigger skavmgdz scandal if she had. that's what's allowed comey to become superpowered in this investigation. frankly, it's my understanding if the president really thought comey messed up here, he could fire him. i doubt, obviously, that's not going to happen. i do think that the president and the attorney general are -- there's some responsibility on them. >> i want to move off that, gloria, because i would love to talk about huma abedin. she's been referred to as the surrogate daughter, as dana bash said she's hillary clinton's
right hand, arm, brain. they go back, bonded over things that are unique to both of them. she hasn't been on the campaign plane the last three days. can you read any more into that? >> reporter: first of all, they're incredibly close. a surrogate daughter has been used, right? incredibly close. she's worked with her since she was an intern. i think one reason she's off the plane, they don't want her to be followed around by us and to be followed everywhere she is or to distract any attention from hillary clinton. i think they did it as much for her as for hillary clinton. john podesta was asked whether huma will remain with the campaign. i believe he said she will. but when you take a step back and you look at all of this, what ryan was talking about with bill clinton meeting with the attorney general last summer, huma abedin getting involved in
this, anthony weiner, it's shakespeareian. all of these storylines are almost unbelievable. in other words, maybe none of this would have occurred if bill clinton wouldn't have hospitalized off his plane on the tarmac and had a little conversation with the attorney general, who then might have disposed of this in a different way. all of this provided for comey to go rogue, if you will, if that's what he did. and the relationship between huma and mrs. clinton is so close. and it must be so painful for both of them that these stories involve, in huma's case, her estranged husband. in hillary's case it's a husband who went and spoke with lynch on an airplane. >> it's bizzaro.
i was talking to the man who would like to be president, gary johnson, on the libertarian ticket, he was answering a question for me as we were sorting through the news coming in. we're also going to hear from the man on his ticket, bill weld, responding to the very same scandal. . >> obviously, the fbi didn't do this lightly. there has to be something there because you don't just do this 11 days before the election. this is a mess. it's a mess. i do think there's an honorable alternative. it happens to be me and bill weld, former governors who served in heavily democratic states, maybe we will still occupy the white house. maybe it's a possibility here. what do you think? >> do you think it will help donald trump win the election? >> well, i hope not. mr. trump braying about this latest development reminds me of the guy on monty python who says, she's a witch, burn her,
burn her. has no more content than that. >> we have found a witch. burn her! burn her! >> and the point of that skit in monty python is those townspeople were ignorant and stupid, not that they were great. >> so, points for a monty python reference, but what do you make of the two very different responses? >> oh, man, we'll miss bill weld after this. it's no secret that weld and johnson don't agree on everything. weld comes -- we didn't see there is weld's basically agreeing with a lot of other former justice department officials saying comey should not have sent this is letter, which seems to be the consensus opinion of anyone that worked at the justice department or is a prosecutor. they don't agree on everything. they haven't agreed on anything from the beginning of this campaign. who knows. you know, the polls right before this revelation had the third-party vote shrinking, which often happens as you get
close to election day. maybe they'll see a little bump up as people are turned off by trump or hillary. >> who knows. ryan, gloria, thank you on this election. >> thank you. >> james comey from democratic hero to villain, taking fire from all sides. is it warranted? let's discuss that. also, is early voting a good thing? we'll talk about the good and the bad choosing early, eight days left. i'm brooke baldwin. this is cnn special live coverage.
we're back. you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. nearly 100 former justice department officials signed off on this letter critical of the fbi director, critical of james comey, for releasing details about the new review of hillary clinton's e-mails. all share a respect for the fbi director, but they say his unprecedented move has fueled uninformed speculation just days before the election and they are now demanding that comey release more information that, quote, provides a full and complete picture regarding the material at issue. so, joining me now, devlin barrett, our reporter for "the
wall street journal," and also with us, jeffrey toobin, our cnn senior legal analyst. jeff toobin, just to you, first, i remember -- i think we talked friday when all of this was breaking. you are saying james comey did the right thing. tell me why. >> reporter: no, i wouldn't say that. i actually and am the -- >> you're with the other camp? >> reporter: yeah. i certainly understand what comey was doing but even i as a lowly assistant u.s. attorney in the 1990s knew there was a bedrock principle at the justice department. i investigated political corruption at a much lower level than we're talking about here, but is that you don't interfere in elections. two months before you go dark. you don't start making public disclosures. you don't issue subpoenas, you don't issue indictments on the eve of election.
and i don't see what possible justification james comey had to violate that principle. and i think that's why you're seeing so many justice department officials, republicans as well as democrats, really disappointed in someone, james comey, who was very well respected in that world. >> well, there has been, acco according to devlin's piece today in "the wall street journal," i mean, just in terms of the inner workings of the fbi and justice and frustration among investigators, devlin, tell me about what you found. >> right. so what we're told is that for a period of months there's been tension and distrust building among the folks doing the investigations related to the clinton and folks overseeing those investigations. that's both internal to the fbi and between the fbi and the justice department. look, there are -- it is pretty typical to have conflicts between agents and prosecutors. that's normal. that's basically the plot of every cop show every made. but i think what's different about this is that the stakes are so high when it comes to
investigating hillary clinton that when those conflicts come up, everyone feels like their career and potentially their reputation is on the line, so everyone gets a little more worked up about being told no or being told, wait, or slow down. >> isn't a piece of this -- >> brooke -- >> i'm sorry. i want to hear your response, but isn't a piece of this, you know, the chat on the tarmac between the attorney general and bill clinton and how, perhaps, this is what the other side would say, how james comey felt boxed in because of maybe the optics of that and, therefore, that led to decisions. go ahead. >> reporter: there is no question that that tarmac conversation has had much bigger repercussions than anyone realized at the time because it shifted decision-making power away from loretta lynch to the fbi. but, i mean, devlin has done brilliant reporting here. i'm full of admiration for him and for "the wall street journal" here. but it is also worth noting that
we have an fbi now that is leaking like crazy. you know, telling -- remember, it wasn't even disclosed that this came out of the weiner investigation in comey's original letter. and the idea that comey set this ball in motion and seemingly has no problem with all these leaks going on just illustrates why you don't do this on the eve of an election, because it is not supposed to be in front. voters at this point. >> but then again, let me just -- i'm trying to be fair. devlin, you can answer this with your sources, you know, if we're talking about a leaky fbi and comey wouldn't have this letter, this wouldn't have been public, but there could woo have been a leak saying, hey, we're looking into hillary clinton's e-mails again and that comes out and that then just looks bad, right? >> right, right. >> one of the major justifications for the comey letter on friday was that he was
concerned this would leak out anyway. look, there is clearly a big difference of opinion within the fbi about this stuff. there's been a growing distrust, i've been told, between the rank and file and the bosses overseeing the fbi and between the fbi and the u.s. attorneys and senior main justice officials overseeing those folks. so, that is the context in which comey decides to do this. and i fully understand why lots of people think that was the wrong call ultimately. if you want to know what the motivations were, i think actually getting out in front of the leaks is motivation. that may be wrong-headed but i think that's part of the motivation. >> reporter: and i think that's exactly right, but the problem is when comey has an announcement to make, he should announce something meaningful to the public. instead, he made this announcement, there's something -- >> ambiguous. >> reporter: -- that may or may
not be important. if he had evidence that hillary clinton had committed a crime, that's important announcing on the eve of the the election. if you just have an announcement, we're continuing our investigation, why throw that stink bomb at the very end of the campaign? i think that's -- that's a real big problem. >> you would have agreed with charles kizer, who was part of a very animated conversation we just had -- >> so i hear. you're the talk of cnn, brooke. it was a high decibel confrontation. >> you could have heard a pin drop in the news room. thank you both so much. coming up next, hillary clinton takes a page from one of the most influential political ads in history. we'll discuss whether her reboot of the 1964 daisy ad is a smart play.
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bottom of the hour, i'm brooke baldwin. looking to change the subject frl e-mails, the clinton campaign is something nuclear, putting a fresh focus on the little girl featured in the iconic 1964 daisy ad to once again question donald trump's ability to handle -- or have his hand on the nuclear codes. the new ad features the same actress, in fact, who at age 3 played daisy in lyndon johnson ad that cast barry goldwater as a candidate eager to launch nuclear war. >> this is me in 1964. the fear of nuclear
war, i never thought our children would have to fear that again. to see that coming forward in this election is scary.
>> trump asked three times, why can't we use nuclear weapons? >> i want to be unpredictable. bomb the [ bleep ] out of them. >> with me now, cnn political commentator, bill press, a hillary clinton supporter, and with us cnn political commentator and republican strategist, alice stewart. great to see both of you. >> great to be here. >> quickly on
the ad and then i want to move on. the clinton campaign is trying to change the conversation, break through. will it work? >> first of all, you don't blame them for wanting to change the conversation. i think it will work in this sense, this is an extremely important issue. i think people really do -- are worried about nuclear weapons. and i don't think there's been enough conversation about this in the campaign, to tell the truth, on either side. we have a system today where one person can make the decision to go to nuclear war. that person -- the president, has six minutes to do so. and the real question is, who do you want with thursday finger closest to the button in the one thing you think about donald trump is, he's so unhinged that
that would be really scary. and hillary clinton comes across as a cool person with foreign policy cred and experience and you would trust her more than donald trump. >> and i think this plays into what the clinton campaign has tried to make a narrative throughout the campaign, questioning trump's temperament. she's gone out and done other ads and talked on the stump about her being a steady hand and trump being a loose cannon without the temperament. this right here, this exchange is about the length of time that people will go without thinking and talking about the e-mails. the e-mail scandal still prevails over any talk of nuclear weapons, the economy, even the obamacare spiking. the e-mails are still forefront on many people's minds. >> the question s how forefront is it in terms of early voting? i was just in florida over the weekend. they were expecting mega numbers. will this impact voters? more than 18 million people have voted early or absentee. do you think -- do you think,
alice, it's a good idea to early vote? do you feel like you have the full picture on a candidate? >> for me personally, i know who i'm going to vote for, i like voting on election day. it's part of the process provided the work schedule works out that way. i think a lot of people that are early voting made up their mind months ago. no matter what happens between then and election day they're going to vote for, whether it's hillary or trump and they're not going to be swayed. what's trouble being this e-mail scandal and any october surprises are those people that aren't early voting that will take into consideration all of these nuances. that is going to make people either stay home or in this case they'll vote for donald trump. >> i think hillary is also right when she says most people have made up their minds about e-mails some time ago. and these new e-mails, it's hard to distinguish them from the old e-mails. >> what about the independents and republicans who were maybe thinking of voting for her? then you have the whole issue which you may not realize, some people have buyer's remorse.
in seven states, if you early vote, you can take it back. >> human people are going to do so? i have voted. i vote early. >> good on you. >> i think if you've made up your mind and you know you're going to vote for it, do it. be sure to get your vote in. not many people are going to go back and get dhir ballot again. here's something else that's going on. these are votes, for the most part, in the bank. they're not just anybody. the clinton campaign has really targeted people who might have been a little loosy goosy. maybe they were a little more for trump and then they said, we didn't like that october 7th tape so now we're going for clinton. they know who they are. they identify them and they put pressure on them or. suede them to get out and vote early. it's very strategic. >> that's a challenge for both candidates. both have their base that is going to come out and vote -- >> to add to that. >> -- with excitement on that, it may be lacking this time, their base is coming out. their challenge is to reach out to the independents and
undecideds. this e-mail scandal is not going to bring them her way. >> it's fascinating to me over the weekend, i just decided to stay in florida because, why not? they send me to florida on friday to do my show, i'm going to hang out. >> did you vote? >> a lot of people -- >> did you vote? >> i'm in new york, no early voting. a lot of people have not made up their minds. that was my biggest takeaway from being down in florida. >> wow. come on, people. >> thank you so much. i know, i know. coming up next, a iraqi security forces say they could be inside mosul by the end of the day after two weeks of fighting with isis. we will talk to our own nick paton walsh who's been at the front lines with soldiers since the very beginning. see me. see me. don't stare at me. see me. see me. see me to know that psoriasis is just something that i have. i'm not contagious. see me to know that... ...i won't stop until i find what works. discover cosentyx, a different kind of medicine for moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. proven to help the majority of people
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>> nick is live there in erbil. what have you been seeing? have the forces moved into mosul yet? >> reporter: no, they don't seem to be in the city at this stage. a lot of reports, they're sort of sniffing at the city limits and the villages around, closer and closer, hour by hour. and even reports they may possibly have gotten into some of the built-up areas that constitute the deep suburbs. it is a difficult task for them. they have spent a lot of time clearing out these villages in the plains, which many thought would be an easier task. we have seen that ourselves, the heavier resistance laid down by isis. today, despite the coalition a few days ago suggesting there would be a pause coming up where they consolidate the ground behind them, we're hearing the americans are clear. they would like to seat iraqis advance when everything is clear. there's an emphasis to get to the city as quickly as they can. we heard the iraqi prime minister saying they're going to move forward, encouraging
residents in mosul to stay indoors. talking about cutting off the head of the snake, very much banging the drum here of advancing. we may see iraqi forces entering the city possibly soon. it's no easy task. this is a built-up urban area. they have had months to defend themselves. you may see video shot by what it's like inside the city. the mere fact they felt comfortable enough to film this ten-minute video driving around showing empty streets does, perhaps, suggest there's some sense of isis on their back. we heard today continued reports of the insurrection of inside gaining ground, senior officials being attacked in separate drive-by shootings and an isis position being hit as well. this is certainly changing in tempo. the main question, brooke, is what happens when they really do hit the city? do these 1.2 million people, civilians caught in the mix here, in the cross-fire as human shields, do they find themselves able to flee to the west or east away from the violence or do they become casualties in this
war? so many questions unanswered. they're going to intensify and become more sour as iraqi forces actually hit the city proper, brooke. >> let me follow up on that, because you have talked so much, and rightfully so about the people of mosul, the 1.2 million, the families who have remained behind, the fears of being used by isis as human shields. who are they and why have they chosen to stay? >> reporter: well, many haven't really had a choice to leave. you have to bear in mind, the rise of isis has been fueled, been permitted, frankly, by the sectarian divide in iraq, between sunni and shia. under saddam, remember him saying, well, the sunnis were in charge, the shia were the suppressed majority. now the tables are turned. the sunnis feel like they are very much persecuted and that allowed isis to come forward as their doinged unmilitarized defender in some areas. the sunni population in mosul, it's clear, have had enough of their oppressive medieval world.
they're turning against them on to some degree. they didn't allow them in in the first place, many argue. that's made many concern that if the iraqi army viewed by that sunni population as often being shia, with shia slogans sometimes attached, if they come in they might be under threat from a different enemy. it's a volatile sectarian mix. people in mosul still there, possibly because some felt better under isis. it's not clear. we haven't had a chance to talk to them. many are feeling very worried right now. they have isis with this death cult mentality trying to keep the iraqi army at bay. and clearly unsure what that means for human life in that city around them. and they have the firepower of the coalition, the iraqi army bearing down around them in isis's midst. it's not good. >> i can't imagine the fear and the unknown. nick paton walsh, thank you so much. coming up next, back to politics here in the states. we know that one of hillary clinton's closest allies, confidantes has not been on the plane for three days.
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for three days now, hillary clinton has been traveling without one of her closest aides, huma abedin, is back in the spotlight, though, after an investigation into her estranged husband, disgraced former congressman anthony weiner has been dragged back into the headlines. the fbi found abedin's e-mails on weiner's laptop, e-mails that might relate to clinton's private e-mail investigation. now huma abedin is a renewed target of donald trump. >> we can be assured that what is in those e-mails is absolutely devastating. and i think we're going to find out, by the way, for the first time. thank you, huma. thank you, huma. good job, huma. >> brian todd
brian todd, if huma abedin isn't on the campaign plane for three days in a row now, where is she? >> that's one of the operative questions circulating today. we really don't know where huma abedin. for three days she wasn't on the campaign plane. she was with mrs. clinton when mrs. clinton found out about this and mr. comey's announcement of that. we know she did not fly today with mrs. clinton to ohio. maybe she has been with her attorneys trying to coordinate how they're going to respond with this latest phase of the investigation. we, of course, have reached out to huma abedin and the clinton administration to ask where she's been, what has she been doing the last couple days and where are we in this investigation? we have not heard back from them, brooke. >> people should be familiar with her name, not just because she was close to hillary
clinton, but because h her estranged husband took part in this documentary. let's look at this clip you put together on huma abedin. take a look. >> reporter: at one point in the film, abedin clearly looks agitated as weiner apologizes to a member of the staff. >> i'm very sorry i put everyone in this position. >> reporter: a campaign aide claims she's being harassed by the media. abedin forcefully coaches her on aspects. >> just so i'm clear, but even after this latest how the fbi is looking over these e-mails, there is no indication on her behalf of wrongdoing, correct? >> that's right, brooke, we have to make that clear. there is no indication of wrongdoing on her part. these e-mails were found on anthony weiner's laptop computer, but they have to look at whether these e-mails contain
classified information because they were taken from hillary clinton's e-mail server. that's the crux, what information was channelled through that server that might have been classified. that's what they have to go back and look at. were these e-mails to hum huma abedin, from huam abedin on anthony weiner's laptop? this may be redundant to what they already looked at, so that is yet to be determined. >> we'll be hearing from you later in your reporting on huma abedin. thanks so much for now. >> thanks, brooke. cnn travels to the u.s.-mexican border and talks to the people who would have the wall, if it were to be built, in their back yards. who they say they're voting for eight days from now. [ male announcer ] eligible for medicare?
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donald trump's promise to build a wall on the mexican border has been one of the cornerstones of his campaign. so cnn correspondents chris moody and boris yekovich wentz -- went to a part of the wall where the border is built already to find out what they think of this 2016 election. >> see ya. >> this is john ladd and this is his ranch. >> reporter: about 10 years ago, the federal government pate fen -- put a fence in his backyard to keep undocumented immigrants out. >> reporter: in recent years, they've seen an increase in violence because of drug cartels. >> reporter: the fence, they say, isn't working. but what about a trump wall? >> my opinion of it is it's a play on words. and there is some areas that you could build a wall.
but unless you have agents looking at it, it isn't going to work. i can prove it to you here. >> so this doesn't look that secure. >> you're as smart as you look. that's my humor. it's a joke. >> we've had a group that almost every day since the first of september, dopers, illegals, smuggling dope, backpackers. >> there is a $42 million station three and a half miles from here. they didn't have enough petty cash to buy a roll of wire. john had to give them a roll of wire, and they haven't paid him back. >> you gave the federal government a roll of wire? >> yeah, because i don't want my cows employigoing to mexico or cows coming to me. >> reporter: married into rancher life, knowing about the dangers. but it's hard to live with.
>> how big of an issue is the border in your everyday life, and how much are you thinking about it? >> i think about it every single day. it's always on my mind. it's always back there in my mind. >> who is the best candidate for you in this issue that's right in your own backyard? >> donald trump is for the immigration issue. there's no doubt about that. >> we are so sick at established politicians. so tired of washington telling us they'll do something and they don't. we feel like we've been just kmeetly left to fend for ourselves down here. >> one thing that has overshadowed a lot of trump's policy positions have been things he has said off the cuff, things people find offensive. how have those comments played into your view of donald trump? >> not at all, and i'll tell you why. that has absolutely nothing to do with keeping this nation sovereign. it's not that you're looking the
other way, but you're never going to find someone that's perfect. >> chris and vanessa, thank you. more from them tomorrow, more from me as well. i'm brooke baldwin. thanks for being with me from washington. "the lead" starts now. thanks, brooke. i went trick or treating across the street and first lady obama gave me seven cartons of cigarettes. "the lead" starts right now. donald trump hitting hillary clinton territory to try to flip key blue states as he flip-flops about the integrity of the fbi. it's the announcement that left voters in the dark and gave donald trump new life and gave carlos danger another 15 minutes. three years later, will governor comey tell us anything