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ac 360 starts now. good evening. thanks for joining us. tonight melania trump makes a rare campaign speech, her first since the convention, calling for action against a tone, a tenor and a pattern of online behavior she says is mean and harmful and serious now have raise on the campaign trail five days from the election. it also happens to be perhaps the one thing her husband is most often accused of doing. the appeal to suburban women voters. will it work? we'll talk to kellyanne conway about it. and first jim acosta joins us from selma, north carolina where
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donald trump is about to speak. what's donald trump expected to say? >> donald trump just walked out on the stage here in selma, in this critical battleground state. we've been told when he gets going he'll be talk about national security, defense foreign policy issues and proposals to build up the nation's navy and air force. he also has behind him several medal of honor recipients and members of the armed services. the other thing worth noting is the untrump-like message discipline that we've seen over the last several days. yes he's hitting hillary clinton hard and going after the president of the united states somewhat. but he's avoided that incendiary rhetoric that's thrown the campaign off course from time to time. >> also today melania trump as we said out on campaign trail. for those who didn't see it talk about her message to voters.
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>> reporter: yeah it was a mental about her immigrant roots but also part of her speech in pennsylvania talking about social media and how she feels like people on social media need to set the right example for young people out there. here is what she had to say. >> i do worry about all of our children. s we know. social media is center piece of our lives. as documents many of us are able to handle mean word, even lies. children and teenagers can be fragile. they are hurt when they are made fun of or made to feel less in looks in intelligence. our culture has gotten too mean and too rough. especially to children and teenagers. >> reporter: one thing melania trump did not mention in that speech is that her husband has
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gone after his enemies on twitter al all hours on the night. we have examples to put on screen. the time he referred to alicia machado saying she had a sex tape when she did not. when he referred to ted cruz at one point during the campaign saying he was threatening to spill the beans about his wife and then of course all of those twitter attacks on the fox news anchor megyn kelly. anderson for all of that to be ignored and overlooked he truly would have to delete his account. anderson? >> thanks very much. we should note hillary clinton, bernie sanders and pharrell have just taken the stage in raleigh. joining us is trump campaign manager kellyanne conway. -- think she does a very good job talk about her husband. showing a side maybe a lot of voters haven't seen. first will we be seeing more of her between now and tuesday? >> well this was really a very
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important day for her out on the stump. this was her idea o go out there in suburban philadelphia. i was proud to work on the speech with her and accompany her today to suburban philadelphia and she's very sport supportive of her puz's candidacy. and but she's got a very important job at home raising their 10-year-old son barron and i think melania is no different in millions of the american women always trying to find the extra time for the homework, the soccer practices and like. i just was very happy people got to hear about her immigrant root, her love of america. the fact she came to work and live in america but that wasn't enough, she wanted to be american and waited ten years to go through process, visa, green cards and ten years later became an american citizen and gave us a bit of a preview what she might do as first lady and certainly the man donald trump whom she's known and loved for
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18 years. >> do you think we'll see her again? and do you wish she had spent more time on the trail earlier? because certainly an appeal to women and others. melania trump is a fine surrogate. >> i'm thrilled that ivanka is out there. melania trump. tiffany trump is keeping her campaign schedule these days and certainly the boys. let's not leave them out. and we've got these super surrogates who are his family members and i think they tell a story about their father in this case her husband that is very different about his character and his policy precipitations, the sacrifice they have all made that i talk so frequently about to run in the first place. but i also because his older, his adult children are involved in his business. they also know hyim as a boss ad as a mentor. they are really all dotting the
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maps. and i think melania trump's message anderson which was giving you a interview a couple of weeks ago and today's speech i feel like those excerpts should be played again and again. contrast melania trump to bill clinton who's on the stump every day and says things like obamacare is the craziest things he's ever seen and goes off message quite a bit. i really appreciate that melania trump does not call attention to herself and there to support herself and her husband and her son. and you saw her today in a way that really helps her husband among women and other others. i contrast it to every time we see the super surrogates. pharrell, bernie sanders. a rapper here or current or former president here or there for hillary clinton somehow makes her seem small and underwhelming. there was a supportive role by
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melania trump. where hillary clinton is out there being supported by people far more popular than she is. >> you talked about melania trump talk abouter a her roots wanting to coming to america, the prinl of being an american. she also talked about how children and teenagers are hurt when they are in her words made fun of or made to feel less. adding culture has gotten too mean. i don't know of anyone who would really disagree with that. she said the same thing a couple of weeks ago. back then and even today reaction from a number of people, mostly mer critics is her husband is part of the problem. jake tapper asked earlier of a surrogate and i think it is the right question to ask. if it is not okay for kids to do this, why is it okay for adults? for donald trump? >> well it is really not okay for anyone to do it with malicious intent. but most of what's an twitter is not about politics or journalism. this is a whole big worldwide
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social media culture, landscape out there anderson. and i think what melania trump was talking about today is a cultural fact. >> but your candidate is the guy on twitter at 3:00 a.m. tweeting out this stuff talking -- >> -- sorry for the delay and it sounded like i interrupted you avnds. i didn't mean to. do you see what's written about you or me routinely. i get the f word. every night from journalists frankly. there is one who -- very washed up one frankly can't stop tweeting at me. curse words. my children have to see that. we have to have really broad shoulders, i get it and i'm just one person. but the fact is -- i appreciate the fact that as a first lady melania trump has committed herself to trying to do something about the negativity that naturally tends to what soerz he identified as the positive tool.
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social media and communication can be a force for positivity. we have a democratic presidential nominee who says she's going to fight for women and children -- >> the question is does about this start at home? isn't the problem at her own dinner table is this. >> the fact that her husband is running for president and defends himself sometimes and tweets things out? >> talking to carly fiorina's face, that wasn't a counterattack. that was just an attack. >> i'm sorry? >> talking about carly fiorina's face that was not a attack. that was or a counterpunch. that was just mean. >> and he went on and said she has a beautiful face. he's a beautiful woman. and i'm proud carly fiorina is a member of the republican part of
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it. and very important one. we're always cherry picking when it comes to donald trump certain tweets. go look at the entire twitter feed. look at his message. >> it is full of this stuff though. >> it is full of a lot of things. but again i think we're doing a disservice to the platform that melania trump, one of the platforms she would want to have as first lady to the full measure of all her comments today. and also if you want to look at negativity, look no further than hillary clinton campaign. they are not even pretending to go high or to go medium anymore. this is the complete politics of the personal destruction all out there attacking donald trump. no aspirational uplifting mental for women, children or anyone else. it is all tear him down, try to wait out the clock. try to run out the clock ahead of not one but two fbi investigations now. why aren't team talking about her getting off the democratic ticket. she's under a cloud of corruption. all of these investigations.
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might follow her right into the white house. and haters are out for melania trump because she dade phenomenal job and she's the picture of intelligence and grace and wit and it was a great day to have her there. and mike pence's wife introduce melania trump and people got a little window into their future in the first lady and the future vice president's wife and i'm just going to say, you know, you can contrast that to hillary clinton on stuff who's all negative all the time now. i don't know why that is. but it is not the democratic party i grew up in and i don't think it would have been very gripping to the single mom who raised me to hear hillary clinton just slam her republican opponent all day long. and i'm just happy that melania trump went out there today and gave her message to men and women. she was in pennsylvania but she spoke to all americans. >> and i know there is a lot of trump supporters who would like to see her out more and probably a lot of democrats would be be cared scared to see her out more. thank you very much kellyanne
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conway. >> thank you anderson. >> i want to bring in the panel. -- well i'm all out of breath. john king, melania trump every time she speaks it has been very effective and i think there are a lot of trump supporters who would have like to have seen her out weeks ago. >> without a question. and where she is is quite critical. chester county pennsylvania is one of the outer counties. but the suburbs around there. in the republicans going to win pennsylvania has to win those counties. the last republican to win those suburbs, georgia george h.w.
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bush. she's very poised a great surrogate but at the convention she had somebody on the staff plagiarize the speech and undermined her and i'm sorry and god bless kellyanne for being a loyal campaign manager. but it is of course inevitable that if she gives a speech that says we should be respectful on social media and treat each other with kindness and compassion that we're going to play donald trump's own words. >> it is inevitable to have that comparison. >> her argument today was with her husband. >> it would have been an effective tactic to say as my first gesture in this cause i'm going to take my husband's iphone away. but look, let's talk the politics of this. i know kellyanne said it was melania's idea to go to this location. this was chosen by campaign strategists for a reason. donald trump has to win pennsylvania orb breakthrough in some other big, blue state.
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pennsylvania was thought to be the one where he could earlier in the campaign season. he has an enormous problem with women and in one poll recently in the last couple of days trailing by 20 points in pennsylvania. and the point of this was to tell women who are looking at a barrage of ads of his own wards that really he's not what you see. he's not the way he appears to be. and that was the sole function of this speech. >> kellyanne conway going critical of hillary clinton in her words going negative and going low. and as we talked a lot last night donald trump doing a good job stay on message and not make mistakes. hillary clinton is running a different campaign in the final days. it isn't a higher message. it is very much attacking donald trump's character. this is essentially answering that. >> and what they are saying is we're making our positive closing argument. they are not necessarily because they are on the attack against hillary clinton. they have a clear message, which is e-mails, e-mails.
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e-mails. you can't trust her. playing into that whole storyline. but what was interesting about what kellyanne said to you is she said you are cherry picking donald trump's words. and that is exactly what advertisements do. what negative ads do. they of course cherry pick words. and she's making that argument against the negative ads and saying don't do that in criticizing melania trump. i think we know what they discuss at the dinner table. which is she doesn't like him tweeting. she has said that the o you i believe. and i think she wishes he would stop. and i do believe she feels strongly about it. and that this is a way that they can deflect -- >> it's also -- >> -- women. >> donald trump is the candidate who has used twitter more effectively and more often than any other presidential candidate in history. >> absolutely. he has used twitter in a way that, you know, even -- you know, rewind the technology, than i think you would probably
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concede that the obama campaign used technology in 2008 and that was revolutionary. but when you look at where melania went today. obviously you are right. the whole reason she gave her speech and where she went was because the counties around philadelphia are so critical. this particular county, chester county, mitt romney won by a hair and they are trying to sort of change that and make it so it is not just that but the others. interestingly i've been talking to republican officials in those counties over the past couple days, particularly today ahead of her speech. and they said that the big drop in his poll numbers in that area in and around the "access hollywood" tape, they have come back. so i think that this was also a way to have someone like melania kind of brick it home. and because we're so close to the election make sure that people who are thinking about voting for donald trump but they are not so sure actually get to the polls. >> it was a very different spousal speech though.
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this wasn't a kind of speech that michelle obama would give about her husband. it was about what she would do if she was first lady. she was a bit of a character witness for her husband. but spouses very often, particularly at this point on the campaign trail are much more personal about their husbands and one thing we've noticed about the family is that they have difficulty telling, sort of, personal stories about donald trump. and i think that would have been quite effective if melania had done some more of that. >> it is also tough for someone who doesn't have the experience. >> absolutely. >> michelle obama, to compare anybody as the speech maker and a michelle obama. >> a lot of spouses at this point have given, many, many, speeches. >> and have been on the trail. >> we have to take a break. after the break a lot more ahead with candidates and surrogates and running mates all running around tonight, including hillary clinton soon in raleigh,nologiraleigh, north carolina. and bernie sanders on stage right now. and john king crunching the
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>> the thing you hear over and over from top democrats all over the place, if we execute we can win this state. but there have been a number of red flags recently, at least the type of things that give democrats discomfort. notably in the early african american vote. a couple of things have changed from 2012 when you look at with why it might be dropping a bit. first and foremost president obama not at the top of the ticket. and also a change in polling places and when people can vote. but the clinton campaign is attacking this all day today. hillary clinton and her campaign at their rallies have been hitting on this issue, reaching out to african american voters. pharrell williams and hillary clinton, while they will also be talking on this stage in a little bit hate historically black university of north carolina central before that. this is all focused on turning out this vote. they don't want to bam coalition. they don't think they are going to reach the numbers but the clinton coalition does include a strong african american vote.
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if they get that they have a very good chance in the state, anderson. >> and clinton has shifted away from any talk of the fbi, right? >> yeah that is react right. the first three or four days her campaign advisors were holding conference calls on it. attack them repeatedly hillary clinton bringing it up repeatedly. no more. it is not exactly the message you want to be closing out the campaign with. instead you don't want to be closing out the campaign talk about donald trump like this from hillary clinton. take a listen. >> this is someone who at another rally yesterday actually said outloud to himself, stay on point donald, stay on point. >> his campaign probably put that in the teleprompter. stay on point, donald. stay on point. you know, we have seen it other and over again. we know his true self. >> mocking donald trump there a
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little bit. the closing argument very clear. this is a referendum on donald trump and that is not somebody you want in the white house. we'll have to wait and see over the next five days if that is a message that works. anderson? >> phil mattingly, thanks. let's talk about why hillary clinton is where she and is donald trump as well. john king back to break it down. the national polls show a small clinton lead. what's new? >> the new hampshire poll has the trump campaign thinking new hampshire is back in play. a poll conducted 42-42 among the state of new hampshire. out west, the whole campaign could the never trump conservative challenger evan mcmullin win utah? one poll had him near the top but now we're seeing conservative consolidation. donald trump, that is not healthy for the republican nominee at 37.
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mitt romney got 73%. but at least donald trump leading in utah. you are seeing conservative consolidation. that is two pieces of good news for trump. look at the state of georgia. traditionally a ruby red state. a dead heat there in georgia. the clinton campaign working the early voting there. they don't think they can win it but numbers like this maybe they have a shot. >> so trump does need to crack what democrats call the blue wall. is he doing 245. >> he's he's banging on the door but he's not cracked it. if you don't know the term, democrats use the term "the blue wall." 18 states plus the district of colombia that they have won since 1992. the significance of that is that means they start at 242. it takes 270 to win. the democrats essentially start with 242.
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they are almost to the finish line. donald trump cracked any of this? not yet. new hampshire is not part of the blue wall. george w. bush won it once. let's look at the three states trump hopes to crack. michigan, pennsylvania and wisconsin. here is michigan 2012. back here to 2012. obama won by nine points. she's up seven points. let me bring the map back so i can get the pennsylvania. bring this down a little bit. there was a five point race. she has a five point lead so there is no evidence donald trump has cracked the wall. he's knocking, closer than he was ten day, two weeks ago but he hasn't broken through yet. >> on the path to 270 where do things stand? >> if you look at where we are now. officially we have in the cnn count clinton 272, donald trump 179. let's say for the sake of argument, we haven't done this officially. bring new hampshire back into
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the toss up category. now let's take into account. trump winning arizona, now trump winning in utah. now leading in ohio. he's at 2 she's at 268, and he's at 214. these are the big prizes. florida and north carolina. trump needs both. hillary clinton needs one. that is why you see the big tete-a-tete in north carolina tonight and florida as well. these other states will be doing as well but we're going a lot of florida and north carolina. >> i think even the magic wall is getting tired of this election john. thanks very much. congressman, let's talk about georgia. are you as a trump supporter concerned about those numbers? >> i'm not concerned about those numbers. in fact yesterday in the cnn green room i talked to one of the consultants with the isaacson campaign. we have a lead not as much as johnny isaacson has.
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we the trump team. but we feel good about it. and i was talk about to david -- >> so you don't think that is close. >> i don't. and the proof if it was, hillary clinton would be down there. bill clinton would be down there. they are not sending any of their -- i don't see any of the super surrogates coming down. and the same way with arizona. i was talking to congressman yesterday and he said let me put it this way for arizona. every third vehicle is a pickup truck with an nra bumper sticker on it. we hear all the time from outsider that arizona is going to go -- going to flip but it is not going to happen. so i feel very good about those two. but think that -- you know, we have to have those in the game. we have to win florida. we have to win north carolina. we're to feeling good about ohio. how to as you know the two swing counties in pennsylvania, north hampton county and liz earn county. those are the bell weather counties. we're getting closer in
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pennsylvania. which is in melania was done there. >> where you concerned about the blue state flipping red is this. >> i am not. and i think for the primary reason she's? very good shape. that fact we're even talking about georgia, that utah is up there, that arizona is up there, i think is indicative that she still has a strong position from electoral standpoint. i also think and i was going mention this last night. a lot of these poll polls are the missing support for hillary clinton. they don't do calling with bilingual callers. even pennsylvania which has 4.5% hispanic voters. north carolina 3.4%. that -- >> essentially making the same argument with different voters. but that the trump campaign is making that there are hidden voters out there. >> yes. and let me include more in the hidden vote. a survey yesterday by william & mary by early voters in florida. we don't know if it's right but
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it said that 28% of gop voters actually went for hillary clinton. so i actually think there are two hidden -- kinds of hidden votes are for hillary clinton. it is the folks who don't show because they haven't voted before. newly registered millennials, hispanics. and then pollsters and frankly to their friends don't want to admit they are going to vote for hillary clinton. >> jeff do you worry about the hidden vote owners the democratic side? >> officer been trumpeting, no pun intends, hidden voerts on the trump side. >> there was about a week ago we were sitting here digesting more or less --. >> it blends together. >>[chatter]. >> well in 1884 -- no. what we have -- we were talking about the inevitability of hillary clinton. that in essence it was all over.
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and now here we are. and we're talking within a few points give or take. i can tell you that tomorrow in pennsylvania donald trump himself will be there at the giant arena in hershey. i thought myself that they had abandoned pennsylvania a week oar so ago. and now there he was in valley forge which is suburban philadelphia. there she is in suburban philadelphia. and he's there in central pennsylvania tomorrow, an areplay that holds 10,000 people.arena that holds 10,000 people. i guarantee that will be sold out 10,000 plus. i think they have got momentum and doing quite well. and the story here t fbi and all that has given people pause out there. >> one important aspect about pennsylvania is you don't have early voting. you have absentee but not the early voting process. so the reason hillary clinton is going to michigan is because they don't have early voting. so you have to get your voters to the polls. the reason this amazing rally on
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monday night, everybody in philadelphia the night before the election is because you actually have to get those voters to the polls. the fact is we can go up and down and all around but the dynamics of the race have stayed the same from the beginning. donald trump has not led in a poll in wisconsin. he's not led in a poll in michigan. he's not led in a poll in pennsylvania. he's not led in a poll in colorado. and we can go up and down. but the dynamics of this race simply have not changed. and hillary clinton, if she maintains the blue wall. >> it's done. >> -- >> john? >> the dynamics have changed. you are right, she still have an advantage. it is late but donald trump has had the consolidation of the republican party. he's had the consolidation of conservatives. he's in the hunt whereas last week he was not. you're right -- >> -- >> we got to take a break. we're going talk more. before we go to break though. david axelrod is a huge chicago cubs fan. >> yes. >> congratulations david.
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he and hillary clinton holding duelling rallies there this evening. melania trump campaigned solo in pennsylvania today. her first turn in the spotlight since the republican convention which obviously did not turn out the way she wanted after the partial lines for taken from michelle obama. today the backdrop a crucial battleground state for mrs. trump's husband. randy kay reports. >> reporter: at the mainline sportscenter just outside philadelphia, melania trump was the main event. >> i come here to talk about my husband donald and his deep love and respect for this country. >> mrs. donald trump sharing both her husband's love of the united states and hoern. she told the crowd she's always loved america even growing up
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under communist rule. >> e always now about the incredible place america. america was the word for freedom and opportunity. america meant if you could dream it you could become it. >> this was melania's first speech since the plagiarism mess at the republican convention. and the campaign strategy is clear. send her to the suburbs of philadelphia to target white, college of educated women. donald trump can't win pennsylvania without them. and they have gravitated to hillary clinton. >> how does melania trump help him win that group? >> i think she should have been out in front all along. i think a lot of the women are going to hillary just because she is a female and she's a horrible example of what a female should be. >> no question supporters here have a real affection for melania. >> can you awe a woman relate to her? >> without a doubt. that is why i'm here. she is like, i cannot wait to see her and see first of all what she's wearing. >> i like her a lot and think she's quite a lady. she's an asset.
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>> reporter: this woman still isn't sold on donald trump. she came to see melania speak hoping to be convinced. >> what do you need to hear to vote trump sh. >> i guess i want to hear something that makes me feel positive about putting trump into the white house. >> what would that be? >> to be honest, i'm open to anything. i'm just not sure. >> if melania trump can win over some women she could be the closer her husband needs in the battleground state. >> she knows him better than anyone. i can't any of any better representative for him than his observe wif own wife. >> it would be my honor and privilege to serve this country. >> i would be an advocate for women and for children. >> i think she does try to bring
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out this softer side in him and i think that is a positive thing. >> is it helping? >> yes it is helping. >> does she soften him? >> yes she's so classy and sweet. yes she does. >> strong and sweet but confident to. her supporters say someone they would be proud to have their daughters look up. >> she would be another jackie onassis kennedy. without a doubt. >> and randy joins me now from philadelphia. it is really interesting how every time melania trump has spoken, whether interviews we've done together or speaking today, everybody seems to say the same thing, which they wish -- trump supporters wish she had been out there or had been able to be out there much earlier. >> absolutely anderson. they just think she's a real star on the campaign trail and
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the star as all of it that her husband has had to deal with. the women who have come forward. the accusers and the "access hollywood" tape. she's handled that great they say with real class and grace. they love the fact she's been open and honest with the american people. and commented on the interview she gave to you talking about how donald trump had apologized to her and how she had forgiven hip. and also think she's going to be a great first lady. if donald trump is elected they shi he'll she'll empower women and maybe even inspire women to start their own small businesses and really that is so important here in the state of pennsylvania because as you know the new cnn poll shows that donald trump is lagging 15 points behind hillary clinton among women in the state of pennsylvania. so if they don't fall in love with him you can tell they certainly have a real affection for melania trump, anderson. >> joining me now.
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also back with us dana bash. particularly hearing women in the audience saying. >> i thought that was fascinating and telling. i specially since up in the philly suburbs a few weeks ago at an ivanka trump event. so these were rock solid republicans and what i heard from them more than anything else, these are people -- which was right after the "access hollywood" tape and they were still all in for donald trump is they just can't stand hillary clinton. so i don't know if that particular voter was one of those who doesn't like hillary clinton and is looking for a reason to vote for donald trump but that is a great example of why they sent melania out there. the other thing that struck me about randy's piece is, you know, i -- we don't like to talk about it seems superficial but it is a glamour factor.
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this woman said she would be like the next jackie o. people are fascinated by her. she was paid to have people look at her. it is not a coincide. >> she hasn't been center stage but women have been thinking about her. because after the videotape everyone was thinking about melania. what's her reaction going to be? and when she gave the interview you do and she was very up front and said i'm an independent woman, i'm a big girl. don't feel sorry me. that resonated with a lot of women. sche take care of herself. so even though you haven't heard a lot from her she's been a big part of this. >> not being a donald trump fan what you do make of her on the stump today. >> i think the donald trump's campaign has served her very poorly. on two occasions. she had a beautiful speech at the rnc except for the fatal flaw. today she had a beautiful speech
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that showed people she was more than just a pretty face. she worked hard to get ahead. talked about the shared american values she had with her husband. and then brought up a subject about her husband and everyone is reminded about the horrible things donald trump has said to journalists and women and everyone online so i really question why the staff put her in that position but also why are you introducing new content this late in the game. people aren't going to vote on what a first lady's agenda might be a week out from the election. it seems kind of segregate and i really question where the campaign put her in that position. >> she had mentioned i think in the interview i did with a couple weeks ago that this is the most she had clearly talked and on a much bigger stage. >> with van jones who said in the last hour look, we shouldn't use this moment and this opportunity to tear someone down who is trying to put forth something she cares about and something positive she wants to do for this country. i don't think anyone should be tearing her down for something
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she cares deeply about. i think what we saw is a strong independent confident woman who's an entrepreneur in her own right. today what i think is very important is one she talked about her immigrant story. i think that relates to a lot of people, particularly cuban voters let's say in the miami area who immigranted in their own right. and thaek feel with her on that level and do not only that when she talks about baron and the types of conversations she has with her son. she says look i realize my son is privileged but with i have the same kvrgtss you have with your children, about life and sports. and this is the family dynamic that goes on in their household and one that goes on in households across the country. >> gloria you have raised the point that --. going to a boxing match with him and he was really nice to someone who worked at the boking match.
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but it is not like in past conventions or -- you have had the oldest friends of people out on the trail sort of giving character references for. >> right. or even children. what i think you saw from the adult children of donald trump is a relationship that revolved around his business. and they are his business partners. and trying to get them to tell personal stories about their father is really difficult. and i this i with melania, first ladies or would be first ladies very often talk about the other side of the person you don't see. on the campaign trail. >> ann romney was probably the best at it. this is the man i know. this is why you should trust mitt romney with, you know, the nuclear code or whether he's going to send your kids into war. and this is the man that i've been married to for umt umt years. and that is not the kind of speech melania is giving and
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that is not the kind of speeches we hear from his family. it is just different from what we're used to. maybe it is because he hasn't been in politics his whole life. maybe ann romney is more poll rnr ished it. but couldn't be more different. >> she hasn't had the practice. so absent on the trail and that is speech you would normally see after the securing of the nomination. and she's still doing this work late in the game and donald trump is in desperate need of high profile female surrogates. he doesn't have continudaleezzae or meg whitman. the women in his life have been sorely missed and he's got to make up ground the best way they can and that is why you see this desperate last move push this week. >> do you wish she had been out on the trail earlier? she's talked about this before. look her priority obviously is taking care of baron and raising
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their son and being there for him. which is obviously, you know, the most important thing. but as a trump supporter, i've heard from a lot of people. they would have loved -- we just heard in the piece, they would have loved to have seen her out there because she is a very effective speaker. >> i would have melania trump in multiple states every day. i respect her being a mom but as a political person i want to see her everywhere. and it's important when we talk the trump children, not humanizing donald trump or melania. they have done that. i remember donald trump jr. saying i remember riding the tractors with my father, the various construction tools and we saw melania today say the first thing i had in common with my husband when we met was love for the country. and we've heard it. but i think we've heard something from the spouses, the spouse of donald trump and the children of donald trump that we don't hear a lot from others because these are folks who have achieved in their own right.
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ivanka has achieved this her own right. she's created a company. so has el melania trump. very success i feel individuals who have a great ideas for the count. we see the humanizing and also see people who a achieved. giving their vision for the country as well. >> for his wife it is not just as humanizing. it is about the woman who sleeps next to every night. explaining who he is. and that, when your candidate is donald trump and we know all of his baggage, you know, historical baggage and recent baggage and everything that's been out there on the campaign trail, that is whole different level of this is the guy i know. that she has the opportunity to talk about. which she didn't today. now i don't fault them for not doing that. because as we said she hasn't had the experience. >> i also think she hates it. i don't think she likes being out on the campaign trail so i have to give her credit for doing it. >> and no doubt a lot of people on the campaign were probably
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trying to eagerly get her out there and it takes a lot of strength to say no i'm staying home want to thank everybody on the panel. coming up hillary clinton has said donald trump spent the whole campaign offering dog whistles. the kkk newspaper like it or not, the campaign is getting support from some hateful places. we'll take a look at that, next. >> you know, he, he also kept saying, like, oh, well, with you know, uh, what have you done for the last 30 years? and you know, occasionally, i would interject and say what i had done. and today, in greenville -- the new pixel phone by google.) only on verizon. okay, google, show me korean restaurants in boulder. (google assistant) i found a few places. (announcer vo) the only network than can power the first phone with the new google assistant, unlimited photo storage, and a stunning vr experience. how is this possible? (announcer vo) so buy a pixel, only on verizon,
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there's more breaking news tonight. some commentators have been saying for months that donald trump have been promoting messages that resonate with hate groups. and now hillary clinton is saying it on the campaign trail as well. here's what she said at a rally in north carolina earlier today. >> he has spent this entire campaign offering a dog whistle to his most hateful supporters. he re-tweets white supremacists
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is and spreads racially tinged conspiracy theories. and you better believe he's being heard loudly and clearly. >> clinton went on to mention that the official newspaper of the kkk has expresed support for donald trump. it's true, they put it on the front page. now in a statement, the trump campaign called the publication repulsive, their word, and said the gop nominee denounce hate in any form. former kkk leader david duke is also a vocal trump supporter, which has prompted a strong response from trump's son, eric. he was on a denver radio show today and the host said dude, quote, desperately needs a bullet in the head. here's how eric trump responded. >> if i said exactly what you said, i'd get killed for it. but i think i'll say it anyway. the guy does deserve a bullet. these aren't good people. these are horrible people. >> whether donald trump encourages it or not, the fact is his campaign is getting some support from some hateful
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places. drew griffin reports. >> reporter: he may disavow them all he likes, but donald trump's allure to racists is raising its ugly head. last night, a mob scene in new orleans, after the former kkk leader and former u.s. senate candidate sneaked into a debate on a black college campus. david duke is one of donald trump's biggest and least-welcome fans in louisiana. duke is barely getting 5% in fact polls, but it was enough to get him on a debate stage and voice his admiration for donald trump. >> it will be donald trump's most loyal advocate, to make sure his nominees go to the supreme court. >> reporter: mark potac with the southern law center say racist groups of the past have gotten new life, like it or not, from trump. >> i think from the radical view of the right, donald trump has been playing a careful game of footsie with them from the very beginning of the campaign. i think they feel clearly that trump is essentially on their
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side, if not precisely holding the same views. >> it's been an ongoing problem for trump, stumbling over questions on how to handle support from known racists. >> just so you understand, i don't know anything about david duke, okay? i don't know anything about what you're even talking about with white supremacy or while supremacists. so i don't know. i don't know, did he endorse me, or what's going on? because, you know, i know nothing about david duke. i know nothing about white supremacists. and so you're asking me a question that i'm supposed to be talking about people that i know nothing about. >> but, i guess the question from the anti-defamation league is, even if you don't know about their endorsement, there are these groups and individuals endorsing you. would you just say unequivocally, you condemn them and you don't want their support? >> well, i have to look at the group. >> reporter: trump did eventually go on to disavow duke, but he's been walking a thin line ever since. >> we're going to watch
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pennsylvania. go down to certain areas and watch and study and make sure other people don't come in and vote five times. >> reporter: his recent calls for poll-watchers to protest against rigged elections has led to charges of racism, because of the focus on inner city polling places. and his campaign has gotten support in the form of robo calls. last week, it was a robo call in utah, which labelled a third party trump opponent as a homosexual. earlier this year, white nationalist robo caws went out in new hampshire, saying vote for trump to keep muslims out and illegal immigrants deported. jared taylor who calls himself a white advocate told cnn donald trump may not like it, but he likes what trump says. >> do you think that donald trump wants your support? >> i don't know whether he wants it or not. i think he wants support from everyone. whether or not he would agree with me is an entirely other matter. remember, it is i who am supporting donald trump, not donald trump who's supporting
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me. >> drew, as trump's candidacy actually given rise to these groups in numbers, or are we just seeing a rise in the noise they're making? >> you know, anderson, the southern poverty law center really struggles with that question. these groups, alt-right, klan groups, hate groups, they're not one group and there's no indication that they're actually growing in numbers of people. but for whatever reason, trump's campaign has given them an actual voice in the political dialogue of this election. they are able to voice their views, and even have some of those views accepted. a few election cycles ago, they would have been shunned. >> drew griffin, thanks so much. we are five days from election day. we have nonstop coverage here on cnn. join us for that. and stay with us for another hour of "360." we'll take a look at what we can learn from early voting data and the latest poll numbers in the key battleground states. there's a reason both candidates campaigned in north carolina today. we'll break it down, next. there's nothing more important than your health.
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