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before we go, a quick programming noted it tuesday, we'll be on wall to wall, tuesday election day, right here on cnn. that does it for us, "cnn tonight" with don lemon starts now. if y if you thought the world series was a nail biter, you ain't seen nothing yet. this is "cnn tonight," i'm don lemon. hillary clinton and donald trump hold dueling rallies in north carolina and that is no coinciden coincidence, my friends. she has a slim lead but he couldn't afford to lose it. trump speaking on the military and getting in a dig on hillary clinton. >> under the failed leadership of hillary -- talk about leadership. what leadership? i don't want to use the word in the same sense. >> while clinton says this. >> i've said many times he has
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shown us who he is, now it is up to us to decide who we are. >> and whemeanwhile, president obama rallies under voters in miami today and saying this about trump. >> you can't move. he can't hear you boo, but he can hear you vote. >> and melania trump apparently unfamiliar with her own husband's twitter account, says this. >> our culture has gotten too mean and too rough. >> hear with me now, cnn's chief political analyst gloria borger, mark preston, and kerstin powers. good evening to all of you. you want to start with cnn political director david challion. there is some good news in the latest polls, right? >> there are some new polls that should give donald trump some comfort. let's start in new hampshire. a couple polls out there today, one poll shows a one point edge
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for druonald trump, 40% to 39%. dead heat, 42% to 42%. this is a state in our map we have leaning towards hillary clinton. these new polls are certainly well come news in the trump organization and in utah, this is probably some of the most welcome news donald trump got today. take a look at this. we've been talking a lot about evan mcmullin, this third-party, never trump candidate. right now donald trump is hanging on to utah. not that he should have to worry, but it's important he's at 37%, and hillary clinton and beating mcmullin at 31% to 24%. and a little bit of heartburn may becoming for georgia tonight for the trump campaign. take a look at this brand news nbc wall street maris poll, a one point lead in georgia, it has not gone democratic since
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1992. the clinton campaign has not been doing an assault and this may give some heartburn to the trump campaign. let's look how this all impacts the battle for 270 and look at two of the most likely paths that donald trump has. still narrow, but two different paths. one, we call the no-ro no-room-for-error path, where if you reward all the remaining toss upstates to donald trump you see he still doesn't get there, flip new hampshire for him. he's one away. how does he get that in that congressional district up in maine. they award their votes by congressional district. that would get him to 270. another path, the rust belt. this is what the campaign would hope changed the map with a different type of voter than previous modern republican nominees. look what would happen here. donald trump wouldn't need all of the toss ups. let's say he hangs on to utah,
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and arizona. he threats floridgets florida ae can give hillary clinton and north carolina here, but what happens is if donald trump runs through the rust belt and flips wisconsin and michigan, he gets to 270. we also know he's playing in pennsylvania. two of those three, not even sweeping all the toss ups, could get donald trump to 270. don? >> david chalian thank you very much. >> now let's turn to the electoral map. mark, the polls are fast and furious now, the big picture. who is expanding the map and where? >> well, let's just first say that we think that wind is behind donald trump at this point. we don't know how many of a head wind he's got going on but he certainly has some wind going. let's take a look at three different states. let's first look at georgia. this is a big surprise, a new poll that has come out in that state that shows donald trump only up by one point. very surprising. this is a very red state.
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hillary clinton hasn't invested very much time or any money and whatle what else is interesting is we're looking at early vote numbers and even though they don't correlate to a poll, don, we're seeing a decrease in participation by african-american voters in the early vote. so, i'm sure the clinton campaign is scratching their heads wondering if in fact georgia is real. but let's now go up to the state of new hampshire that david chalian had noted and look at this poll right here, that's certainly getting a lot of attention. the suffolk university boston sglo globe poll, what's interesting is we've seen hillary clinton in the past few hours announce she's now going to hold an event in new hampshire on sunday and guess who is going to follow her on monday, none other than the president of the united states, barack obama heads up there monday to try to rally the troops in that state which has tightened up and let's move west to the state of colorado right now, a poll that caught us off guard late last night. shows that the race is even out
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there in colorado. you can see that 39%-39%, gary johnson at 5%. bernie sanders is going in on saturday. a blue state such as colorado now seems to be on the board at least from this poll's perspective and clearly the clinton campaign has some concerns that's why they're sending in two of their big guns to try to rally the last-minute votes, don. >> i'm sure people are going, my goodness. >> gloria, were you commenting there under your breath? >> no, i just -- i feel like we do see this every four years. in 2012 when, mitt romney made an election day trip to ohio. we were all talking about the tightening in pennsylvania. this is know whawhat happens at of a presidential race. this has tightened a bit because of the comey news out of the fbi of course and that hasn't been good for hillary clinton. let's not pretend that it is and
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that it's just a natural kind of settling and tightening of a race in a very dwightivided cou. i was talking to somebody in north carolina who pays a lot of attention to their early voting who said to me, 90% of republicans will come home in north carolina and that's really good for donald trump. the african-american vote is down. will hillary clinton be able to gather her more progressive, younger, multicultural coalition, to win that state, we just don't know. >> yeah. >> there are some really key states, north carolina, florida, ohio, and pennsylvania, are my four that i'm really going to be looking at election neat. >> i said georgia. i think georgia is going to be up there. but listen -- >> it could be a surprise. >> if you thought the world series was a nail biter,
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kristin, white until what we're about to show you tonight. gloria mentioned the bad news that came out for hillary clinton, but the thing is, is donald trump has been trying mightily to stay on message and not to blow it. let's listen and i'll let you respond. >> there's so much more brave than me. i wouldn't have done what they did. i've brave in other ways. i'm financially brave. big deal. right? he's a real brave. when i look at these great a admirals and these great metal medal of honor recipients, to think of her being their boss, i don't think so. and you know they're incredible patriots. they would never say a thing, but i know what they're thinking. it's not for them, believe me. >> so kerstin, that was on the
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border. it was borderline, but can he keep control -- >> that was borderline? >> i mean for donald trump. >> i was wondering what you were going to call that, don. >> can he do that for five days? can he keep control of himself for another five days? >> i'm going to call that out of bounds. i don't think that's borderline. we keep hearing people say this and i think we've lowered our standards too much. to me, the implication also -- maybe i'm seeing sexism beyond the bush -- you can't imagine these people, her being their boss, so maybe it's been too many days of him being on script and he's going to start going off script because let's face it, what's his record for actually staying on script? i don't think it's been more than a couple weeks probably. >> i can't believe i'm asking you -- >> i think he thinks it's working -- >> ahead, gloria. >> if he thinks it's working,
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don, he might just stay on script and he seems to be having a great deal of success with it, and so i think as long as he thinks it's working, he'll go with it. i mean, he channeled himself yesterday, i believe, and sort of you saw the thought bubble coming out of his head when he said -- >> no, he said it out loud. it wasn't a thought bubble, gloria. >> right. it was a real -- >> maybe it was in the prompter, who knows. >> i don't think so. >> for clinton campaign t seems like there's -- before well this letter out from the fbi, before comey and after comey and then before comey, clinton pivoted to what she would do as president. now she and her surrogates are attacking, listen. >> just a few days ago i want you to hear this because this has never happened to a major -- to a nominee of a major party. just a few days ago, donald trump was endorsed by the
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official newspaper of the klu klux klan. they wrote their endorsement under the slogan of his campaign, make america great again. they said it's about preserving white identity and they've placed their faith and hope in him. >> so, gloria, i want you to respond, but kerstin said -- if i'm looking at my notes earlier, kerstin said she should leave the hitting up to his surrogates and focus on a more positive message. do you agree with what she said to our producers earlier? >> this -- i do. i think that this isn't the way hillary clinton intended to end her campaign. remember when she said they go low, we go high, and i think that the whole comey-fbi matter threw her off script so she's on the attack. we should not be surprised. the candidates are attacking each other during the left handful of days over presidential campaign. i get that. but i do believe that that kind
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of an attack, i totally agree should be left to a surrogate to do. she can -- she's clearly trying to get out african-american voters because she is not reaching for example barack obama numbers in north carolina, nor by the way, should she be expected to, but they need to get up the african-american vote in a place like north carolina. so she's doing that. but i think that that might be better left to a surrogate and she ought to be making the case not out of fear so much, but to barack obama out of hope about what she can do for you in the last day or two and maybe she will get there. >> okay. >> but she's not there yet. >> hey, kerstin, i'll let you respond on the other side, okay? make sure you stage around. stay here, everybody. president barack obama won big with women in 2012. can he help hillary clinton do it this year?
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back with my guests. kerstin is on the attack. does she have a choice though? >> well, yeah because she does have some great surrogates who can be doing a lot of the attacking for her and if you look at what we're seeing, this sort of new hillary coalition, she's not doing as well with black voters, but she's degree a lot better with hispanic voters than barack obama did so her coalition is sort of looking more like -- we're looking at early voting, more white
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liberals voting for her and more hispanics, fewer millennials and fewer black voters, and so if you look at a state like north carolina she doesn't have -- she can't balance out the low african-american and latino vote because there's very high african-american vote there around 20 plus percent and around 3% latinos so she needs to think about the message and she's doing particularly bad with black millennial. these are obama's surge voters who came out because they love the hope in change -- >> the sanders people. >> -- so telling them he's bad isn't going to motivate them. >> the sanders coalition. >> right. >> i think it's worth saying too that clinton campaign's fighting a war on a couple fronts. they're fighting with donald trump, but they're also fighting with the fbi director. they took him on immediately after it was revealed that he was reopening the investigation or looking back into the e-mail
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server, and it's funny, i was talking to a democratic strategist, not aligned with clinton campaign tonight and unbeknownst to me, this strategy just came out to said to me i can't believe they went after director comey. that was the stupidest thing they could have done and i said well why, that's the only thing they could do. the strategist said you what they should have embraced comey and said look, the guy's just doing his job, we have nothing to hide, we have nothing to hide. we hope he can do a thorough job, and that was kind of interesting, it hadn't crossed my mind, but i wonder if they had done that, would this be playing out a little bit better for them. >> i think alan dershowtiz is on for two nights in a row and said very hsimilar things on monday and tuesday. >> you notice she stopped. >> she has stopped. >> but also i've heard strategists say it could work in her favor as people see her as the victim and this in some way is partisan because there are
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reports it's a partisan attack and it's sort of trump land at the fbi. it could turnout the other way. i don't know if it will, but strategies are also saying that. >> i think that they can turn something like hillary clinton's into a fighter. >> and she will also continue to fight and fight for had you. >> which is what donald trump said you're a strong lady and you don't give up. >> right. i think going after the fbi was kind of a reflective action, lots of democrats did it, lots of republicans were surprised by it. and i think that she ought to train her eye more on donald trump, which is what she is doing, and -- and that is what barack obama's doing. what's interesting in this campaign now and we're still in a very negative phase. we haven't gotten to the closing arguments and the hope and change stuff, and when i was listening to president obama, i
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was -- and him campaigning for hillary clinton, he was talking about what would happen, how awful it would be, and his bases, and democrats and his voters if donald trump were elected and i thought that's interesting because that's not the barack obama i saw when he first ran for office, he was all about hope, and now, what they're doing, is rallying their base, trying to get out their voters, and the way to do it is to remind them what they dislike about donald trump and what scares them. >> let's play some of that because -- >> so not only is hillary clinton doing that but the president is. >> he specifically talking about women and minorities today. here's the president. >> yep. >> if you disrespected women before you were in office, you will disrespect women as president. if you accept the support of
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clan synthesizers, you will accept their support after period. if you discriminate before you are president, then that is what you will do in office except you will have more power to carry out the twisted notions that you had before you were in office. >> as you said, she has powerful surrogates. you don't get more powerful than the current president and the gifrt la first lady being your surrogate. do you think it resonates with minori minoritie minorities? >> he's a great mess edengemess well. you know because they really are so good at talking about these issues in a way that doesn't sound angry, necessarily. it sounds righteous, right, but it doesn't -- it's not off putting i think so president obama today was at his absolute
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best. i would put it up with one of his best speeches of all time and he's given so many great speeches. so he's completely on fire and he's doing a great job. so i don't think hillary can't -- hillary can criticize trump, she needs to also give a more positive, hopeful message and speaking maybe to the issues that matter to the voters that aren't turning out, millennial and the black voters. >> he's doing a bit of code switching today, come on, y'all, man, especially in north carolina. right? it was -- it's fun to watch. thank you-all. i appreciate it. stay with cnn for all day coverage on election day, tuesday. up next, melania trump making a rare appearance on the campaign trail, denounces bullying, which has to make you wonder has she ever seen what her husband says on twitter? born. because, healthier doesn't happen all by itself. it needs to be earned every day. using wellness to keep away illness.
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that has defined this election? here to discuss this is nicholas christoff from the "new york times." i think this election has set a low bar when it comes to what's going on and today, melania trump gave a rare speech and she made everyone say whoa when she said there. listen. >> our culture has gotten too mean and too rough, especially to children and teenagers. it is never okay when a 12-year-old girl or boy is mocked, bullied, or attacked. it is terrible when that happens on the playground and it is absolutely unacceptable when it's done by someone with no name headiiding on the internet. we have to find a bitter way et actually to each other, to
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disagree with each other, to respect each other. we must find better ways to honor and support the basic goodness of our children, especially in social media. >> so bullying children is terrible. it is -- you know, and it's an ad m admirable quest for her -- initiative if she wants to do that, but it is also terrible when a presidential candidate mocks and bullies and attacks people, everyone else say, you know, on twitter, for years on end, what did you think when you heard this. >> i thought three possibilities, so one is that secret endorsement by melania and clinton seems a little bit unlikely, and seems that it was just the height of hypocrisy given that nobody has done more to -- you know, to attack the disabled, to attack latinos, to attack muslims, to attack fellow republican candidates, to attack
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journalists, women, miss piggy, miss housekeeping, john mccain, or maybe it was total obliviousness. >> come on the campaign, right? this was their strategy, because if you believe the abc interview, or her reaction, she doesn't realize she was going to be giving two speeches as he said, so this was clearly not her idea to do this and then she -- but this is strategized, so why would they -- why would they have had this strategy? >> i think it's a misfire, but the moment melania talks about bullying, everybody is going to think, if you want to talk to people about addressing bullying, then how about your pillow talk. talk to donald. >> you may recognize this paper. >> i think i've heard of that paper. >> oklook at this. at times, all the places and things that donald trump has insulted, just on twitter, this is -- >> 282 people. >> since the start of this campaign, it is -- it's
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unprecedented. so that's why -- listen, not to beat up on melania trump, but just the -- you know, the strategy of having her do this, like -- >> yeah, i think it's great. essentially in this campaign, when people are talking about hillary clinton and the trump benefits, when people are talking about trump, clinton benefits and melania's comments immediately turn the conversation back to trump and his bullying and his meanness, so i think from that point of view is a mistake. >> so when you were talking about basically the trump effect here, how it's spreading, i'm going to put this up. this is a texas agriculture commissioner, name is sid miller and identifies trump as trump and secretary clinton as the "c" word. he said it was a re-tweet and in virginia, the parents of students are upset with a high school principal and his secretary secretary for dressing up his hillary clinton and donald trump. hillary clinton in prison garg
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and orange. these are educators. do you think they have the license now to act disrespectly in part because of what's happening on the campaign trail? >> look, individuals are always going to post obnoxious tweets and individuals are always going to have halloween costumes, but i do think that donald trump has essentially given license to his supporters to say things that he would not otherwise say. at his campaign rallies, as you know there are people shouting not just lock her up, but things like "hang the bitch," and i'm from rural oregon of town right on the edge of atlantic valley, it traditionally was white. latinos had moved in. in this area you see the social fabric coming in because there was certainly resent mment for years but white kids in the schools have now been -- one of the local schools hanging banners saying "build a wall," in physics class, saying "build
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a wall," and targeting latino kids on things that can't be addressed on monday night and it will take time to heel. >> kkk liter, daveader, david d former knight of the kkk, he's running for u.s. senate in louisiana, and during a debate, just a few things that happened during that debate, okay? duke said inflammatory things about black lives matter and hillary clinton should get the elect rick chair when asked about a term her uses "cnn jews," duke said quote there is a problem in america with a very strong powerful tribal dominatel banking. i think he also said he'd be donald trump's greatest advocate. how is this happening in a debate for the seat for the united states senate and this is someone who is clearly a big supporter of donald trump who said you know i don't know if he ebb divorces him in the
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beginning and then denounced. >> i think one of the problems has been the fragmentation if you will, in the media, we all like to complain about political correctness, but in a certain civility, people felt things they were unwilling to say because they thought they would get in trouble if they did. and these days increasingly, people get their information from you know maybe alt-right web sites, and i think in that context, they feel they can say crude, vile, racist, orri sexis things and they feel liberated to say that in part because someone who reflect this is is now nominee for president and running in a very tight race. >> and that's what nicholas christoff said -- >> and let's be clear on tongue and check. >> and you said let's be clear
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on how it happens. >> there are a lot of people who feel that they then left out and trump in a sense is empowering -- empowering them to say things they never could have before. >> thank you, nick. >> great to be with you again. >> appreciate t always. when we come back you heard what melania says about online bullying so how does her husband get away with all those mean tweets? support prop 51.
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help students succeed vote yes on 51. so let's talk about the big campaign speech today for melania trump. she spoke out against online bullying. i wonder if it was a surprise to her husband. here, is cnn advisor to donald trump, and anna navarro, and andre bauer, former lieutenant governor of south carolina. that's a very admiral cause, but can we just -- i want to start with you, ana, i want to start with online bullying and what she said. she talked about how horrible when someone hides behind the internet and attacks children. donald trump has called me a light weight, dumb as a rock.
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he's called you a flirvunky, onf the dumbest people on tv. >> that was on a day so liked me. >> that was a day i disagree for the record, maybe he's right, who knows. it doesn't really matter they spelled my name right. what's your reaction to melania trump? >> look i think you're right. i think it is a meated topic that we need to discuss as a society. there is way too much hate, way too much venom, way too much violence, and it is horrible and often done under anonymity, done by an egghead, with a fake account or whatever. donald trump does it on his own. he does it with his own persona. he backs up what he says. if melania trump wants to do something against online bullying, all she's got do is put a little melatonin in his nighttime milk and maybe lullaby him to sleep. >> or take his phone away.
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>> take his phone away. tie his hands up, do something. i -- i get where she's coming from, but it's a very difficult argument to make when you are sleeping next to donald trump who's tweeting at 3:00 a.m. in the morning and tweeting really ridiculous things at 3:00 a.m. >> so the interesting thing, everyone -- if you did happen to split with donald trump, there was one thing that said i just can't go past. for women it was the heidi cruz thing when he re-tweeted the heidi cruz photo. sir this is for you. isn't that definition of online bullying and why isn't her husband held to the same standards she wants to hold the kids to? >> i don't think that's her point at all. melania trump certainly didn't think her husband was perfect. she came out and told her story, what matters to her, in terms of what she would take on as america's first lady. she has an incredibly powerful story, one i thought was inspiring and frankly every talk show how and tv show tonight is
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talking about bullying, but in the wrong way. instead of attacking memelania, why aren't we talking about the real epidemic of cyber bullying. i think we should -- give her credit for that. >> i don't think we're attacking melania. i think she's a class act. i think she's a lovely woman. >> and she said herself -- >> she's come out to be much more grounded than her husband. >> she doesn't like a lot of his tweets. >> and she is loving and supporting of her spouse, but he's crazy and tweets crazy things in the middle of the night. >> when you say things like that and expect him not to respond is ridiculous. you're calling him a name while getting mad at him -- >> he's running for president. the highest office in the land. >> your father ran for president. >> he was there for that, i sglrm a remember. >> and your father took the high
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road. >> he was also very nice. >> and he's a nice man. i'm not saying donald trump is not a minice man, whatever. most people go at it different than donald trump. most things he's said is bullying. >> the most vicious things in this race though -- >> that was just the election side. >> let's talk about the terrible things hillary clinton said. >> that's a two-page spread of people, places and things that donald trump has attacked on twitter and you and me are on that list. >> and hillary clinton calls millions of americans deplore able and irredeemable, yet that's not a big deal. >> we talked about that. that's one thing. >> that's not one thing. she constantly has content for americans that don't agree with her. >> shed th said that one time i speech. do you understand the difference? there's been hundreds. >> you're missing the point of melania. she wanted to come out and tell her story f. anybody in the campaign is going low, it's hillary clinton. her campaign --
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>> she'll apologize, as well. >> her campaign has turned to nothing but vicious, personal attacks. these final days that's all she's doing. she said she was going to take the high road. that's the opposite of what she has done in this -- >> you're absolutely right. >> -- ten days. >> the last two segments before that. > while donald trump is talking about issues. >> donald trump called you a failed announcer, is that right? >> yeah. >> melania trump says our online culture has gotten too mean and too rough. what's your reaction? >> i look in the context of melania trump's two entrees on to the national stage and melania's team around her failed her first with the speech at the convention and now with the speech talking about bullying, which many say is hypocrisy because her husband is the point person when it comes to online bullying. i don't think anybody is talking about online bullying. i think she's intelligent and she has or own business, she's
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beautiful, so no one is criticizing melania trump on that, but what i am saying is her team -- the people around her, some be who said -- who wrote those remarks, somebody who said we're going to talk about bullying and completely disregard -- when you listen to the speech, it's almost as if you want to introduce her to donald trump, because maybe she can work on donald trump. there's some disconnect there and i just put that on the campaign. i don't put that on her, because i do think she's a available asset to the campaign and we should see more of her if she wants to do better with women. >> this is admirbelieable to ta. >> she's talking about child bullying. >> absolutely. >> and everybody knows the difference, too, and to try to make it something different is -- >> i have to say congratulations andre bauer, because as far as i can do you haven't been attacked by donald trump on twitter yet, depends on what comes out of your mouth, but is she the right
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messenger for this cause? >> i like her independence in the fact she's pursuing what she thinks is important. also in this speech, i think we haven't mentioned that she talked about her journey to become a u.s. citizen and she thought it was the greatest thing in her life and this was the greatest country and i think those are big things, being an immigra immigrant, coming to this count country, doing at this time legal way and talking about how proud she was and i'm paraphrasing but that too is a big message. y'all have heard me disagree with donald trump before. he's my man. i want him for president. i think he's the only person that's run in many years that can really cat strastrophicallyn so many are on the fence, voters that aren't sure which way she's going to go. cleaning the pool out, draining the swamp, getting rid of people lobbying after they've been in
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public office, which i could have done, but chose not to. when he talks about making those changes i think that's where he gets his best bumps. i think that's where people really see the donald trump that so many of have you stood behind. >> i don't think that -- >> going after the people on the internet, that's not his strong suit. >> i was going to say i don't think you're going to get attacked. that's why -- at the end you wrapped it in a bow. we'll be right back and we'll continue our conversation. for millions of baby boomers there's a virus out there. a virus that's serious, like hiv, but it hasn't been talked about much. a virus that's been almost forgotten. it's hepatitis c. one in 30 boomers has hep c, yet most don't even know it. that's because hep c can hide in your body silently for years, even decades, without symptoms and it's not tested for in routine blood work. if left untreated, hep c can cause liver damage, even liver cancer.
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back now with my spectacular panel, sara huckabee sanders, ana navarro, and andre bauer. bacard i you first. north carolina is going to be key and i want to play a moment, from a woman who introduced hillary clinton today, may brown wiggins and she says she was discriminated against when she tried to rent an apartment from a trump property in the '60s, link. >> the trumps turned me away because of the color of my skin and they had done the same thing to many others when i think about how they lied to me just
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because i was black i still feel the anger. i can't share this experience with you without the pain. >> donald trump would have been 17 at the time ms. wiggins filed a complaint against his company, but ten years later donald trump's company was sued for housing discrimination. how do you feel? >> when we look at that totality, that type of pain is what a lot of african-americans feel as if donald trump is emblematic of and when you think about just this week, don, you had a black church in mississippi that was bombed that said "vote trump." you had david duke on the main stage in a debate down in louisiana. you had the kkk, their newspaper, come out and introduce and endorse, excuse me, donald trump, and then you
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have these stories like ms. wiggins and there's so many people -- we're not that far away from ms. wig gins' story, and the question is do you want somebody to be the president of the united states because they were colored? those were his words. n they literally marked "c" on paperwork. they were sued twice successfully. i stand on the shoulders of women like ms. wiggins and i applaud her strength. >> we don't know what happened of that church, and it did say vote donald trump but we don't know who is behind it. what do you think of the woman? >> i agree with bakari, her story is powerful and it's tough to hear, but like you said,
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donald trump was 17 at the time, that certainly was an action that he took. donald trump had bigotry and racism and certainly don't condone it and to try to the paint donald trump as a racist is wrong and it's very dishonest and a dangerous road to go down. i don't think that helps create the type of unit y we want in or country and it's a terrible trajectory the clinton campaign is trying to get to and she's using this as a distraction to take away from the fact she's under multiple investigations by the fbi. i don't think most americans think and they shouldn't, donald trump is a racist, but he isn't because hundreds of african-americans at his company hired them, put them in places in executive office. >> he must do that. >> he doesn't have to do it on his campaign and he does.
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>> let me just and this question. what is hillary clinton because we've gone down this road and people always say all the sudden you're playing the race card or this or that but what has hillary clinton said about donald trump and his issues and his interactions with race that have been false. there's nothing false. he did -- his company, his father's company, him they were both sued for housing discrimination. he has not apologized to the central park five. he led the birther movement. >> i graduated from central high -- i thought he said the central high. >> i understand central high, but no central park five. so when you had these instances of race that means must be full effects. >> it's the fact you're trying to paint him as something he isn't and trying to make him accountable of people like david duke when he wasn't. i think it's hillary's way of making this a distraction from her own failed record.
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she want dose anything she can she's under investigation by the fbi which all but disqualifies her. >> we were talking about the david duke thing. >> i think -- i think that woman's testament should make us all reflect and make us sad, break our hearts. this is not ancient history. this is living history. she's telling her living story. and it should make us reflect on how badly this debate, this rhetoric, this campaign rhetoric has gone. it's been way too divisive, and hostile. too much hatred, too much division has been injected into this campaign and we must as americans figure out a way to come together november 9th. we just have got to do it. >> no matter -- >> there has been people screaming jews sa at the press, and accusing people in shackles and immigrants have been bashed, and bashed and bashed all over
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again. this must stop, this unbridled anger and passion and we must stop because of ladies like her. >> i'm unfortunately out of time and i'll see you later on the show. >> sorry about that. >> thank you very much, everyone. great discussion we'll be right back. more "sit" per roll.
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you know. this is "cnn tonight," i'm don lemon. hillary clinton holding on to her national lead, but this thing is close, and there's a lot that could change the minds of those undecided voters. take your pick, the latest batch of clinton e-mails. new questions of just how much donald trump is really worth, or something else, that nobody could predict. it could happen in this one. plus, rudy giuliani predicts surprise that could turn the campaign around, then director comey sends that letter. what's going on here? let's go to cnn political analyst, mark preston, and mark, first, early voting is taking place in 38 states. what's the take away? >> don, so far we're seeing 31 million people have actually cast ballots in those 38 states but there's two states we want to watch tonight, and certainly talk about given so much interest in them. let look at the state of florida, first of all. if you look at th

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