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the latest cnn electoral map has shifted, dropping hillary clinton to just shy of the needed 270 electoral votes, but the princeton professor who called 49 of 50 states in the last election says donald trump has virtually no chance to win and he's here. so what do the campaigns need to do in the final days? i'll speak to rnc chief strategist sean spicer and david axelrod who ran both of president obama's campaigns. plus, while clinton is getting celebrities like jay-z and beyonce as well as president obama to motivate her base, donald trump is basically going it alone. >> and by the way, i didn't have to bring j. lo or jay-z, the only way she gets anybody. i'm here all by myself. and with charges of election rigging and voter suppression, many are siting this scene of alleged intimidation in my hometown of philadelphia in 2008. i've gone back to the scene to
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find the real story. but first, it used to be that elections were an end point, someone celebrated, another licked their wounds and the nation moved forward. but things have changed. you know that we live in polarized times with many causes and well-known milestones. one of among them was eight years ago when at the time of president obama's inauguration senator mitch mcconnell, now the majority leader implored his fellow republicans the single most important thing we want to achieve is for president obama to be a one-term president, unquote. partisan competition, that's healthy. democracy depends on it, but this ushered in an ugly era of vi tree yal and obstructionism. now there are troubling signs that things are about to get even worse. paul waldman summarized the developments in yesterday's
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washington post difference in opinion may have grown so bitter that federal agents are willing to leak information to the press to try to undermine clinton's campaigns in the final days. also, the e-mail case has not been quote unquote reopened by the fbi as characterized by some politicians and media outlets and yet that's not stopping some republicans from already calling for her impeachment. should she be elected. we also have many ignoring that a presumed foreign hostile actor has hacked american computer systems in an effort to influence our election just so long as the spoils suit their political objectives. and we haven't had nine supreme court justices since the passing of antonin scalia nine long months ago. there are gop leaders saying they would rather leave it vacant than a clinton pick. we need to stop this. the nation cannot afford such disharmony. so i say, let's finish it fair
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and square. and then embrace president trump or embrace president clinton and move forward in the name of national unity. i've said before that for far too long the largest number of us have allowed our voice to be muted by the loudest voices. it's important we not let them tang us down this road another four years and hopefully candidates will provide leadership that heals, regardless of which is the victor. joining me now is the rnc chief strategist and communications director sean spicer. before we talk about early voting, do you buy into what i just had to say? do you agree with me that come wednesday we need to unit, recognize the victor and move forward as one? >> assuming that there's a clear and decisive victory, sure. i think what makes this country beautiful is a democracy that allows people to vote and to choose up and down the ballot who we want our elected leaders to lead.
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if you don't like what that decision was, you work hard to put up another candidate the next time and fight it out voter by voter, idea by idea. sure, that's what makes our country better than every other country on the face of earth. >> good. we agree on that and i'm sure david will agree as well. the consensus seems to be while the polls have tightened, your candidate donald trump has a very narrow path to win the building behind me. what do you say? >> well, i think we start every election the last several cycles behind in the electoral map. that's a fact. democrats do well in states like new york and california. we've known this for a long time. chairman reince priebus said this four years ago we need to be near perfect to win it back. we win at every other level of government. we have more republicans elected at time in history. we control the house, the senate, majority of governors 66 of 99 legislatures. as a party we do very well but we have lost the big prize a few times which is why i think we
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put together the most comprehensive infrastructure to win back the white house. in 2012, michael, we had 876 staff between us and the romney campaign. we now have 6,012. that's an exponential amount of people out there. last cycle we did 11 million voter contacts. this cycle we're on pace to do 17 million voter contacts. there's a reason that the absentee ballot and materially vote are up for republicans in the battleground states. our ground game, our data, our infrastructure are helping up and down the ticket. there's a reason when all the media said we're going to lose the senate and potentially hold the house, now we're talking about strongly maintaining the senate, keeping the house and winning back the white house. i disagre with the professor that you mentioned earlier. he'll go 49 for 51. you've got every one of these states closing in and mostly all states that obama won twice and should be strong blue states, colorado, michigan, wisconsin, new hampshire, virginia, states that obama won twice that
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clinton campaign banked on part of being their coalition are now all of them, every single one of them trending towards trump/pence. >> i know that you're looking at that data of early voters and we can't look inside their envelopes, thank god, but we do know are they republicans who have voted early, are they democrats who have voted early. we also see polling data, some based in part on those who already voted and some just based on the general populus. i would suggest to you, sean, to simply look at the turnout among r's versus d's. i get your point. hey, we're outpacing romney from four years ago and they are not keeping par with barack obama. a fair point. but wouldn't it be more important to know gender? wouldn't it be more important to know ethnicity? >> yeah. >> wouldn't it be more important to know level of education because within each of those demographics your candidate is suffering. >> but, michael -- no, no. i agree 100% with you. that's what we do. we have a voter score of 197
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million voters. every single registered voter in the united states the rnc data operation has modelled. we follow them. we track them. we believe we know where every single voter is going to either turn out, not turn out, not turn out early, turn out early, vote with us, not vote with us, split their ticket. we've modelled every single one of them for the last four years. we feel we know exactly where this electorate is and where this is headed. i agree with you full. we don't look at public polling. we work with the campaign to make shoour modelling every single thing we do, where the candidate goes, what ads we place what the message is, whether it's a mail piece or tv ad, door knock or phone call. every single thax we take as a campaign, as a party committee and this bleeds down to the information that we give every single senate race is that we know where our voters are, where we have the potential to grow, where we have the potential to persuade, where we have the potential that we've got to either turn that person out, make them chase and get an absentee ballot back. i agree with you.
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we've chased every single voter that we believe we can get and that's why we feel so good heading into these last four days. >> sean, i recognize that you think you're leading at this point. hypothetically -- >> no, no, no. that's not what i said. huh, say that again? >> if you enter tuesday tied, the intelligence, the political pundit class believes that you lose because she's got the better ground game, they've identified exactly where their voters have come from and it's only the rnc providing a get out the vote effort for trump and that frankly his is organic. look, 15,000 people came out in hershey, pennsylvania, my neck of the woods last night. but is that a fair statement? >> michael, no, it's not. i just went over in the beginning. the problem is as you pointed out the political intelligence, whoever they are, don't take the time to look at the fact. as i mentioned, the combined romney rnc field operation was 876 people. the combined rnc trump operation
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is 6,012. now, i went to public school growing up, but that seems like a pretty growth in the ground game. voter contacts between rnc romney in 201211 million. voter contacts we'll make with the trump campaign 17 million. at the end of the day, the problem is that the political intelligence, whomever you're talking to, don't want to look at the facts. we have a much exponentially larger staff on the ground, we have a much larger voter contact program and we have the best data operation of either party. so i think the problem is that people have this view of how things are supposed to work. at the end of the day, it doesn't matter who knocks on your door f they're knocking on your door saying tell me who you're going to vote for, what are the issues that are important to you are you voting for marco rubio, patrick murphy in florida. we're putting that into the app and bringing that back and feeding it back out to every candidate up and down the ballot, that's the best program that can happen to exist. we have a better operation, a
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better ground game and better data operation because the problem is in the distension that people don't get, the democrats keep building operations for one candidate. we build operations for entire party so that everybody up and down that ballot whether you're running for city council, president of the united states -- >> sean, thank you. >> you have the data. >> sean spicer, thank you. now for a different perspective, eight years ago at this time david axelrod was the chief strategist for barack obama and on the verge of electing him president. thank you for coming out to play on a saturday. >> good to be here. >> you heard him say among other things, look, we think we're performing better than romney was four years ago the d's are underperforming as compared to barack obama. is it that simple? >> well, no. first of all, let me say i'm here as senior commentator for cnn not as a surrogate for the democratic party. let me give you an objective view of someone who has been involved in this process. i think what you look at are -- you pointed out that there are people who don't have party
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designation or vote history because they just registered. for example, in florida, many of the voters who are newly registered are hispanic voters or disproportionate number. many of them didn't designate a party designation, yet the anticipation is they didn't register to vote to vote for donald trump. and you look at data, polling data of some of the newly registered voters from several states and she has an edge of about 15 points. there are a number of signs in the early vote that suggest to me that she is on course to win. will she win by exactly the margin barack obama did? no. it is true that i anticipate that african-american turnout won't be what it was in the last election but hispanic turnout will be higher. i think she's going to get a higher percentage of college educated women. that's going to help in the suburbs of philadelphia and is
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suburban areas of north carolina. right now i think she is on track to win this election. spicer has done a great job, but and the rnc in building something that they didn't have before. is it enough to break the electoral lock, no, i don't think so. >> tuesday night 11:00 p.m. in the east, we'll be seated at a table like this together. >> yes. >> if david axelrod could have a sneak peek at the result of one state, fast forward to tuesday at 11:00 p.m., what state do you want to know and why? >> well, as per usual, i'm not going to directly answer your question because there's more. but you go up the east coast, you're going to look at florida obviously because if hillary clinton wins florida, the election is over. if she wins north carolina, i think the election is largely over. we will know the result of this election by the time we're done with the industrial midwest. pennsylvania looms very, very large in that equation. i honestly think donald trump needs to win pennsylvania. he can win some of these other
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pieces, even ohio and florida, but i think he needs to win another one big state. pennsylvania is one they had identified in the beginning. she seems to be hanging on to three or four-point lead there. and i expect that she's probably going to win pennsylvania, but if he were to win pennsylvania, you know, i think we're going -- we could have a different result. >> speaking of pennsylvania, in 2003, you won a very highly followed mayoral race in the city of philadelphia. a month before the election, a bug, a listening device was discovered in the mayor's office. you would think that would doom his candidacy, as you wrote in our memoir, "believer" this was our problem but it was also our opportunity. >> right. >> you turned it into your advantage. >> right. >> has she similarly played all the cards available to her with regard to comey? >> well, there's no doubt that that the comey intervention in the campaign has galvanized some democratic voters. i think that was part of the --
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i mean, that was the intent of hitting him so hard -- >> did they go hard enough? >> yeah, i think so. they probably went a little too long because ultimately they have to focus on trump in the final days. you can see she's made that pivot, but there's no dhut a lot of democrats believe this was an inappropriate intrusion on the part of the fbi director and maybe in places like philadelphia, voters there will be incensed enough to come out and vote. >> there's a map that shows where the candidates are traveling in the final three days. they're killing themselves, david. >> yeah. >> to what purpose? to what end? >> it's all turnout. it's all turnout now. there's nothing else. they're making cases, but it's not a persuasion exercise now, it's a mobilization exercise and that's where you see all these efforts going. that's why i think you also see the rhetoric becoming white hot at the end of this campaign. >> i think you heard my commentary at the outset of the program. i'm worried about what's to come regardless of who wins, but it
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seems like the battle lines have already been drawn with regard to her where they're talking about not having a ninth supreme court justice, talking about impeachment. she had not yet been -- how much does david axelrod worry about wednesday? >> i believe in this. i think the greatest -- the loser in this process has been democracy. democracy and our institutions have taken a big hit in this campaign. and all this discussion of delegitimizing the vote, delegitimizing a newly elected president, perhaps not approving a supreme court justice. remember, we heard from people who wouldn't see justice garland that it was inappropriate to allow this president to appoint someone. we ought to wait for the verdict in the next election. well, if the verdict comes, then it seems to me those people are honor-bound to act on their
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words and approve or have a hearing and approve or disapprove a supreme court justice. >> and i think that we need to look to the two of them, which ever is the victor and which ever is the loser for leadership in that regard come wednesday. >> yeah. i think the words that are spoken on tuesday night, on wednesday morning, are going to be exceptionally important in this election. are we going to have a coming together or is the election going to spill into the street like a barroom brawl through the front window of a saloon? >> i hope not. thank you, david. i'll see you at 6:00 p.m. thank you for being here. david will be back with me at 6:00 p.m. in the east. tweet me. still to come with three days of campaigning to come, all eyes are on the electoral college. some see recent volatility in the map. a progress nast cater from princeton say the race is dull statistically speaking. he sees virtually no path for donald trump. and you're talking to youro doctor about your medication...
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with three days of campaigning until election day, the question is who will reach 270 electoral votes? many see a recent volatility in the numbers, and here is what it looks like in the very latest cnn electoral map. hillary clinton has 268, just shy of the 270 necessary. donald trump at 204, 66 up for grabs, but dr. sam wong a neuro scientist from princeton the founder of the princeton election consortium is an outlier. he correctly called 49 of r50 states in the last presidential election and went 10 for 10 in the hottest senate races in the country. he sees virtually no path for donald trump. dr. wong joins me now with a princeton colleague, a historian and together they co-host a pod cast politics and polls. dr. wong, you tweeted recently that you were so sure of the result that you would put it up on the screen, eat a bug in donald trump pulled this out. that was precomey, that was the
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prekony revelation, is that still your view? >> yeah. what i said in that tweet was that trump was unlikely to break 240 electoral votes and i think that's pretty much the same. honestly this race is the most stable statistically speaking since eisenhower beat stephenson in 1952. i think that things are looking the same and we should stay calm. >> i mean, this has been the most exciting, tumultuous race in the modern era and yet you regard it as statistically speaking dull. where do you differ from the conventional logic? >> yeah. i think that there's drama and then there's data. so if you look at the political campaign clearly this is the most emotional race in most people's living memory, maybe one would have to go back to 1968 to see something as emotional, but that emotionality is part of polarization. look at the last 20 years, politics has become very pol polariz polarized. as you talked about, there's this extreme tactics adopted in
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the operation of government and under extreme emotional conditions people don't change their minds. and so this is why we've seen so little movement where clinton has led trump by as little as 2 percentage points anding a gated collection of state polls put together to make a nice measurement. she led by as much as seven points, but historically that's a narrow range. state polls are a very good gauge of how states will go next tuesday. >> what about the argument that no poll has properly taken apprisele of donald trump's true strengths because people are embarrassed to say to a pollster i'm for him. >> no, no no. there are live polls and automatic robo polls. those come out a little different but not very different. trump performed right at his polls and in the primaries. we don't have other -- any other evidence that the polls are that different from the vote. trump has been steadily between 41 and 43% of the popular vote in surveys.
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again, take medians to get rid of the noise, it looks like he has a pretty locked in basis support. they're polarized, energized and fewer in numbers than clinton supporters. >> professor, margin matters, right? i said at the outset i'm worried about wednesday, the path that the nation will take and the path for the parties, particularly what becomes of the republican party post-trump, win or lose, will be determined not only by the victor but also by the margin. >> i think that's very important. i think part of the emotion that people feel about this contest is not simply about the outcome, it's about the content of how the campaigns are conducted, the kinds of arguments is that were made and the kinds of divisions that have unfolded. and that combined with the argument of a rigged election put a lot of emphasis on exactly what the outkm is. i must say, even if somehow hillary clinton would win by a
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landslide, given the polarization our country rand the kind of campaign we've seen, there will be a lot of tension and animosity. we've already heard the opening argument of a republican congress before anyone has been declared a victor, that's about investigation and even potentially -- >> dr. wong, who wins control of the u.s. senate and house? >> it's looking like the senate is going to be right on the edge. that's where the real suspense is for me this season. seven key races. they would need to win four of those seven close races in order to gain control of the senate. the republicans get four of the seven close races. i would say the senate if you look at thele pos in those states the odds are about 4-1 in favor of democrats winning control, but things could shift a little bit, small polling error could send things either way. over in the house, the democrats are very likely to win the
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national popular vote, but because of two factors, population density and patterning and jerry manderring, it is likely that the republicans will retain control of the house. president clinton who is a likely president clinton i would say the most likely single combination is clinton with a very closely divided senate and a republican house. >> that would be a big story because you would have a narrower majority and probably more conservative house and so if paul ryan survives, he's going to have to deal with a more muscular freedom caucus facing potentially democratic president. >> sam wong, julian zelizer, two colleagues from princeton. thank you for being here. >> thank you. still to come, a story of alleged voter intimidation in my hometown of philadelphia has become the stuff of urban lure. well, i went back to the scene and i will tell you the full story of what happened when two
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new black panthers showed up at a polling place in 2008. and it often correctly mirrors the final results. so what do the numbers show of a poll taken of k through 12 students and here are some early tweets -- >> if hillary wins, absolutely no unity, i will and trump supporters never accept a law-breaking crook like hlry. come on, man, wednesday it's got to change. is there another one? that distresses me. i'm sorry i could never ever embrace donald trump. it would go -- i'm not asking you to forget everything, but i'm saying we need to wipe the slate clean come wednesday and get it together. back in a minute. ♪ one day a rider made a decision. the decision to ride on and save money. he decided to save money by switching his motorcycle insurance to geico.
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with three days to go before the election, everybody's nerves are a little frayed. i have three very calm folks here with expertise to lend their credence to the debate. kevin madden, spokesman for mitt romney's 2012 presidential campaign, patty doyle, former bush 43 white house and rnc staffer paris denard who supports donald trump. at the outset of the program, kevin, sean spicer was pretty much saying, look, we're outperforming where you are, the romney campaign in 2012 and the clinton campaign is not keeping pace with where obama was, which sounds pretty simplistic. it is that straight forward? >> i think the rnc ought to get a lot of credit. they invested a lot of time. you remember the 2012 infrastructure was -- well, it didn't win. the rnc realized they needed to do more to improve upon it. they invested the time, the resources and effort and tried
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to perfect it. i think where the problem is that they're talking about going out and making 17 million contacts. that doesn't mean that they're finding 17 million people who say they're definitely going to vote for donald trump. those numbers still have to be put in context. they have done a great job of going out and building that infrastructure. the other challenge they have the candidate didn't spend any time building their own infrastructure. they didn't marry two organizations. instead they have one organization that was designed for the party, not necessarily strictly for the nominee. >> patty, i remember the autopsy commissioned by reince priebus which said, we need to do better with women, better with folks of color, better with the young. i'm thinking if donald trump should lose this election they could dust off that autopsy because it seems like it's headed in that same direction. >> absolutely. look, i think when it's all said and done, i think hispanics and suburban women will win this election for hillary clinton. we see the early voting in nevada, arizona, colorado and
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north carolina and more importantly in florida hispanics are coming out in high numbers. what i find fascinating is that we had that autopsy, we had that audit in 2012 and donald trump has spent the entire year in and a half that he's been a candidate, demeaning, disrespecting, insulting these very voters that back in 2012 they knew they had to get. >> i want to show all three of you and, parry ris, you can have a first crack. k through 12 students voted, 153,000 for them for scholastic magazine. check that map out if you can. it's a swath of red in the middle of the country, blue on the left and blue on the right and presumably, you know, they are repeating what they hear at home. since 1940, the students have gotten it wrong only twice and, paris, i look at that map and i pay attention to texas, because if it's not in this cycle, it says to me if the republican
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party doesn't change those kids when they vote, they're going to take that state blue and then the gop can't win the white house. >> yeah. i think what we've seen in this election is a lot of unfortunate talk about defining mr. trump as someone whom he is not. and so in young people, like that map shows, listen to what they hear on the tv and what they hear secretary clinton, all these celebrities talk about mr. trump is a racist, sexist, things like that it plays into their mind. what we have to do as republicans, those supporting trump is to defend the actual record and have him highlighted in a better fashion. this campaign has been so much in the toilet in terms of rhetoric and commentary. we've got to elevate it especially for those children so that they can make better decisions that are not biased at all. >> i have to say, kevin, my media market, which is philly, you know we're highly competitive or so it's believed, the commercials i see are his own words. how many times do i see kids watching a set and it's him only. >> imd agree with that.
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i think mr. trump has done a lot of -- to bring this upon himself and to bring that criticism upon himself. that's been something that's been distressing for republican myself. i look at that map, michael, and see that as a future's index for both parties. i remember after the 2008 election, so many millennials came out to vote. what i worried most about, not the 18-year-old voting in that particular election, it was the 16-year-olds that were watching that and couldn't wait to vote again in 2012. so i think that's something that the party has to undertake which is better outreach to younger voters and the future profile of the republican party. i know the rnc is trying to make strides in doing that and i hope they continue. >> speaking of donald trump in his own words, patty, there's a clip that's gotten a lot of play this week. it's kind of comical. show me donald trump. i want. >> we have to be nice and cool.
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nice and cool. stay on point, donald. stay on point. no side tracks, donald. nice and easy. nice -- >> come on. we're all chuckling about this, but, patty, a serious point, had he been more measured, i question whether he could have captured the nomination, but he would have been a stronger general election candidate. i don't want to read this as if it's a post mortem, but that's a strong donald trump. >> no, look. i agree completely. he has been a wildly undisciplined candidate and it did him well in the primary, absolutely. i would argue he won the primary because of it, talking straight talk and telling it like it is. but in the general, he has not been able to expand his base of support because of this, because of his undisciplined candidacy. and i see that and i just have to give credit to kellyanne conway. i'm sure he is hearing her in
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his ear saying, keep it cool. keep it cool. >> the issue is that donald trump probably could not have distinguished himself early on on a stage with 15 competitors. >> i think what we have is a person who is a master at communications and knows exactly what he's doing. i disagree. he knows when to go little bit this way, little bit this way. he knows what he's doing. he knows in order to cross the finish line, he has to stay on issue. he can't trust hillary clinton. it's a choice election. he's going to stay on message because he wants to win. >> quick final comment from each of you. i'll start with you. i know your answer. is it as tight as that cnn map is suggesting, dr. sam wong at princeton have it right? >> i think it's getting a little bigger but the electoral map is
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too tough for trump right now. >> i think it's getting tighter and the momentum is on donald trump's side. that's a good sign for donald trump. >> interesting. we'll know soon. really appreciate your being here. still to come, a particular polling place in my hometown of philadelphia has become what i call the area 51, a voting lure associated with an urban legend about voter intimidation. and in a moment, the full story of what happened when two members of the new black panthers showed up at a polling place there in 2008 and here are more of your thoughts. dr. wong cannot quantify the emotion of the election, another hillary bot. what a bot? i think lol is love you long time. sorry. trump wins in a long slide. well, maybe. he has an organic movement going for him. we'll find out in three days.
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election day, concerns about voter intimidation continue to percolate often in reference to my hometown of philadelphia, but many of the reports of past intimidation can be traced back to a viral video of an incident in the 2008 election that has been widely misrepresented. i went back to the site to file this report. this is 1221 fair mount avenue. this is a housing development known as guild house west. if it looks familiar, no doubt that's because of an incident that took place on election day john mccain against barack obama. >> there's a guy with a billy club right here. >> video recorded here bay poll watcher went viral and has since been associated with voter intimidation. but that's not the full story. >> and he was not a police officer. he was not proper security. he was a member of the new black panther party. >> that was november 4, 2008, to
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be exact. stephen morris then a university of pennsylvania student was certified as a republican poll watcher and video taped his peaceful encounter with the new black panthers. >> i know they are radicals of a radical party. they are complete and udder outliers and people like that will certainly exist in the united states and elsewhere around the world, but what were they doing there? i have no idea. >> others thought they knew. 12:41 eastern time that day, the drudge reports top linked headline was black panthers block access to voting station and drudge kept posting on the story even adding footage throughout the day. but here is what really happened. the man with the night stick was asked by police to leave. he did without incident. the other man, well, he was a certified poll watcher. he got to stay. the district attorney's office says there were no complaints of intimidation, nevertheless, this incident has been a rallying cry for those who claim elections
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continue to be stolen in part due to voter intimidation. donald trump has repeatedly claimed the election is rigged, particularly in cities like philadelphia. >> i hear these horror shows and we have to make sure that this election is not stolen from us. >> his video has been viewed about 2 million times on youtube. it's been called the holy grail of republican suspicions about voter fraud here. david thornberg is the chief executive of the committee of 70, a nonprofit, nonpartisan watchdog group for better government. he is the son of a former republican governor and u.s. attorney general richard thornberg. >> what are the numbers? what are the relevant registration numbers for this polling location? >> i think when you go to the numbers, it demonstrates what was purported to be happening here was not in fact happening here. first of all, in this ward of which this is one small piece, democrats outnumber republicans
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20-1. >> in fact, the 14th ward fourth division did go 596 to 13 for obama over senator john mccain. it wasn't because republicans were scared away, most folks in the fourth division are african-americans and registered democrats who outnumbered registered republicans 5,040 to 276. case in point, al is a republican city councilman. he didn't get a lot of votes in this area either. >> how did you in this area? >> actually in this very area n this precinct i got three votes. >> three votes out of three votes. >> out of about 500. >> because of thans dent, he opted out of poll watching, however he still marvels at the power of the 81 seconds he recorded. >> this video has become a republican anthem for the past eight years. when ever there's a racial problem, the republicans go to this video, they broadcast this
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video. if i got a dollar for every time they played this video, i would be a rich man right now. >> what morris believes is that the kind of fraud trump claims will be going on here would be nearly impossible to pull off. >> in the context of this general election, this was very much a rarity. this is not the kind of thing you would see everyday. this is not the kind of thing i don't think anyone else has seen in america since then. >> what happened on november 4, 2008, in philadelphia was a bizarre incident. but it wasn't a part of any widespread voter intimidation. still to come, your best and worst tweets, tweeting me at smerconish. here is one more. let's look together. plain and simple, any person politician and/or citizen who refuses to accept the winner of this contest are un-american. hey, i'll buy into that.
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here's what some of you thought this week. keep tweeting me @smerconish. thank you for shining the lies on drudge and bright bart, the new normal for the gop. i want to say something about this. please don't misinterpret me and think that i excuse the conduct of the new black panthers from 2008. i think the justice department should have prosecuted them and didn't. but i just don't want people think that this is part of some wide spread voter intimidation that took place in my hometown. those two guys were two knuckleheads looking to get on tv. and they got their wish. but it wasn't part of wide spread voter intimidation and that's the way it was spun. thanks for allowing me to say that. give me another one if we have time, please. keep tweeting me @smerconish. never ever recognize hcr as my
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leader. i think that's hillary rodham -- whatever. who the hell are you, mike, to tell me how to feel or act. you are spineless. i'm not spineless. i'm saying that you know what offends me, those who thump their chests and call one another's patriots and great americans and then they so easily want to buy into the idea that this election, which is yet to run its course, is illegitimate. if there are signs of great aberration come tuesday, believe me i will be the first to say we need to investigate. but let's not be predisposed to disbelieve the outcome. and whoever it is, you will see me here next saturday, i'm willing to welcome president donald trump as the president of the united states or president hillary rad hodham clinton. i want to stop litigating the things of the past. i'll be back here live at 6:00 p.m. eastern with a whole other lineup to cover the very latest. i'll see you then. i'll be here in d.c. all week long for coveraged. and next saturday at 9:00 when
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