tv State of the Union With Jake Tapper CNN November 6, 2016 9:00am-10:01am PST
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donald trump is uniquely unqualified to be president. >> clinton bringing in the big guns to try to motivate black and young voters. will it work? and with trump closing in on clinton in key states, could he pull it off? >> no sidetracks, donald. nice and easy. >> the very latest on where the map stands right now. plus the best political minds from insights on the campaign trail. edition of "state of the union" with limited commercial interruptions starts now. >> hello. i'm jake tapper in washington. the state of our union is down to the wire. just hours to go now until the american people pick a new president. the stakes are high. so are the tensions. especially, perhaps, among democrats who see the race tightening in key states. hillary clinton's campaign has been banking on a blue wall. die-hard democratic states she was banking on for a victory.
donald trump says not so fast. >> we're going into what they used to call democrat strongholds where we're now either tied or leading. we're going to minnesota. we're going up to minnesota which traditionally has not been republican at all and we're doing phenomenally. we just saw a poll. >> minnesota, a state that has not gone red in a presidential contest since the nixon landslide of 1972. and now trump and his running mate, mike pence are both going to be there today and tomorrow in the precious last few hours. does trump know something that the rest of us don't or is this wishful, perhaps even desperate electoral map thinking? senator al franken joins us. thank you. >> thanks for having me, jay. >> so let's start with your home state of minnesota. donald trump is heading there
today. pence, tomorrow they say they're within striking distance. is hillary clinton at risk losing your state which has not gone republican since '72? >> i don't think so. you know, jake, i'm kind of the poster boy for close elections. i had a close election here in minnesota in 2008, won by 312 votes. what i've been focused on the last actually couple of months is on turnout, especially last month, doing canvassing all over the country, talking to canvassing offices. urging our people to get on the doors. i think we have a great ground game. i've been -- spending this last week in minnesota doing that. >> let's turn to another traditionally blue state and presidential contest. michigan. hillary clinton, bill clinton, barack obama all campaigning there in the final stretch before the election. it's a state that was once
thought to be safely in the democratic column this year. is hillary clinton at risk of losing this democratic firewall of states such as michigan? >> again, i'm not a pundit. what i do know is that i have been for hillary this whole time, all along. she's the smartest, hardest working, toughest person i know. i think she would be great as president. you know, jake, when a decision comes to the president, it's because only the president can make that decision. and the president has to draw on his and i believe soon her -- all her vast experience and knowledge. and i want her doing that and i don't trust donald trump because i don't think he has any really
depth or breadth of knowledge about public policy anyway. >> there are a lot of democrats out there who are nervous, who are anxious. are you among them? >> oh, sure. i'm always nervous. i was nervous in '12. i was nervous in '08 for good reason. but, i mean, you know, we run through the finish line. this is what i tell everybody that i go to canvassing senators and i say many of you have jobs. many of you have families. ignore them. get on the doors. >> i want to ask you about this new two-minute ad that the trump campaign is going to be airing. it blasts the washington and global establishment. it uses images of obama and clinton but some columnists have noted that there are three other individuals in the ad, george soros, janet yellen, lloyd
blankfein and the chairman of goldman sachs. all three of them happen to be jewish. wa w what was your take when you saw the ad? >> well, when i saw the ad i thought that this was something of a german shepherd whistle, a dog whistle to sort of the -- certain group in the united states. i'm jewish. maybe i'm sensitive to it. but it clearly had sort of elders of zion sort of feel to it, international banking crisis plot or conspiracy, rather, and then a number of jews. so i think that it does speak to a certain part of his alt-right base. bannon, head of breitbart, is
his chairman. they traffic in that. trump has retweeted a lot of that sort of thing. and i think that it's an appeal to some of the worst elements in our country, as a closing argument. i think that people who aren't sensitive to that or don't know that history might not see that in that. but that's what i immediately saw. >> i want to ask you about this news broken by reuters that the clinton foundation confirmed that it did accept a $1 million dollar gift from qatar while hillary clinton was secretary of state without informing the state department even though they made that as an assertion of rules that they would inform the state department. do you think going forward, if hillary clinton wins on tuesday, does the clinton foundation need to be shut down, completely shut down so as to eliminate any possible conflicts of interest or appearances of influence
pedalling? >> well, i don't know. i mean, qatar -- we have a base in qatar. people should remember that. i have been on a number of uso tours before i became senator to iraq and afghanistan and i know that qatar is very important in our presence in the region. the clinton foundation has saved millions of lives. i think that sometimes people should compare the two foundations. the trump foundation and the clinton foundation, which got the hiv drugs to millions of people versus the trump foundation, which doesn't seem to have done much of anything for anybody. >> i hear you, sir, but is it not -- the idea that there is
this foundation that is the bill, hillary and chelsea clinton foundation out there raising tens of millions of dollars while she is potentially president of the united states, doesn't that create a possible real problem for her that's not worth undermining her presidency? there are questions about when individuals -- >> sure, sure. >> -- and countries give money. >> i take your point. maybe there's some way to continue to the good work that the foundation does and do it under a completely different -- you know, different people running it so there is no conflict of interest. i think that needs clearly to be looked at. and i'm sure that -- i can't see them not responding to that critique and finding a way to completely divorce that from
her. that's a good idea, i think. >> hillary clinton was asked about fbi director james comey and whether, if she wins, would ask him to resign. take a listen. >> i'm not going to, you know, get ahead of myself. but assuming i'll be fortunate enough to be elected i also would not comment on any kind of personnel issue. >> as a member of the senate judiciary committee, do you have an opinion as to whether or not you have confidence in fbi director comey moving forward in any possible inquiries into the clinton foundation? >> i think what's troubling, we've heard out of the fbi, i think it was troubling that he put that vague letter out days before the election, even more troubling is what we've heard from sort of the rogue elements
within the fbi, seemingly tipping off former mayor giuliani that something was up and also -- i mean, it just seems like -- that's not the fbi. that's not what the fbi is supposed to do. so i'm on the judiciary committee. i'm sure we'll have hearing and i'm sure fbi director comey will be before us. and i think he should answer questions about this. and he should be able to control the fbi. he is the director. what has been happening there has been a little hinkey, i think. >> they're basically appointed for ten-year terms. he has served three. >> right. >> do you have confidence that he can continue in that job for the next seven years if hillary clinton wins?
>> i think we'll have hearing and i think we'll get into the rogue element of the fbi, trying to affect the election. seems to be responding to just right wing books and starting investigations based on that kind of -- you know, that kind of propaganda that we've seen before. that's disturbing. if you're director of the fbi, you should be able to prevent that from happening. that's part of being a leading organization, is to keep that organization on its mission. this is so apart and separate. very, very important questions
to be asking director comey. >> you're calling for hearinging to talk to director comey about what you call these rogue elements within the fbi? >> yeah. i think there should be hearings. i'm certain there will be hearings in the judiciary committee in this matter. >> there are signs that latino early voting is up significantly, but that african-american early voting, especially in several key states like north carolina, is down. are you concerned about what this might mean for hillary clinton on tuesday? >> uh, well, on the african-american vote in north carolina, i think we've seen the last week there's been an effort to suppress that vote and i think african-american north carolinians have gotten that message.
and it's usually increased turnout. i think that their effort to suppress people, to -- the president told about this 100-year-old woman who was purged and wrote him a letter. that went to a judge who called this insane, what was going on. i think that's actually going to spur african-americans in north carolina to turn out. >> senator al franken from the great state of minnesota, appreciate your time. thank you, sir. >> thank you, jake. always good to talk to you. donald trump is keeping up a relentless schedule, hitting several time zones to maximize his remaining hours. in reno, nevada, secret service rushed donald trump off the
stage. what we learned is a protester tried to raise a republicans against trump sign. that protester was confronted by people in the crowd, tackled and someone in the crowd apparently incorrectly yelled that the protester had a gun. u.s. secret service says no weapon was found, they report no one was hurt. mr. trump returned to the stage not long after and resumed his campaign pitch. joining me now is kellyanne conway. thanks for joining us. >> hi, jake. hi. >> first of all, we're glad everyone is okay. i have to ask. your social media director, dan scovina and a member of trump's family are retweeting misinformation that this was an assassination attempt. it was not, thankfully.
should they be spreading this misinformation? >> well, i'm glad you're happy that everybody is okay. that's really the main focus here. it's scary. i mean, all the coverage is usually about our protesters wreaking havoc and making people feel afraid. this certainly goes both ways. i'm with mr. trump and the secret service routinely. they do an amazing job. absolutely the unsung hero, i'm sure for mrs. clinton as well. we really respect those men and women enormously. i'm glad nobody was hurt. it does remind you that in these closing days, especially as the polls tighten, many of us are getting more death threats, getting more angry messages on social media and elsewhere. that's the real focus here. some people are spreading this information about the protester. he had canvassed for hillary clinton. he had donated to her campaign. so this is a democratic plant or operative trying to disrupt our rally. and i think that people saw a nimble, resilient donald trump who would be nimble and resilient as well, taking back to the stage, saying we won't be stopped.
if you're don jr. and on a live tv set while you're watching this unfold it's pretty rattling to think what may have happened to your father. so i'll excuse that. >> it wasn't an assassination attempt. it was apparently a local voter or republican who says he is supporting hillary clinton, has given money to hillary clinton, he has canvassed for hillary clinton. he says he's a republican. most importantly, he was not trying to assassinate anyone. and here is what i'm talking about. let's put it up. donald trump jr. retweeted, hillary ran away from rain today, donald trump is back on stage minutes after assassination attempt. why is your campaign spreading that it was? >> how do you -- first of all, that's really remarkable, i have to say, that that's what the story line is here. thank you for reminding everybody that the rain chased her away. there weren't a lot of people there at her rally to begin with. the rain left them running for cover. i think she has to travel
nonstop with beyonce, jay-z and the likes that have to prop up the crowd. they're there to see beyonce, not her. is cnn going to retract all the headlines, breathless predictions of the last two weeks that have turned out not to be true? the race is over. the path is closed. it's going to be a blowout. you retract that and i'll give a call to dan scovino about the retweet. >> i have never -- reported anything along those lines. >> cnn certainly has. >> who has? >> cnn certainly has. i love cnn. you have to be honest here. the lower third, what's always on the chyrons, panelists, so-called experts constantly saying she can't lose. the race is over. the path is over. >> i never heard anybody say that. >> on cnn? >> all along that donald trump has a path to the presidency and she -- >> wow! >> i have never said that the race is over. >> okay.
>> let's move on. i want to replay something that was said at the same rally. michael mcdonald and by your candidate, donald trump. take a listen. >> last night in clark county, they kept a poll open until 10:00 at night so a certain group could vote. it wasn't in an area that normally has high transition. the polls are supposed to close at 7:00. this was kept open till 10:00. >> it's being reported that certain key democratic polling locations in clark county were kept open for hours and hours beyond closing time to bus and bring democratic voters in. folks, it's a rigged system. >> kellyanne, spokesperson for clark county, nevada, said folks
in line before the polls closed were allowed to stay in line and vote. i'm sure you know that's a common practice throughout the country. if a whole bunch of trump voters are in line when the polls close in ohio, should they not be allowed to vote or would you want the polls closed only after every single one of them in line at the closing time was allowed to vote? >> we just want the law followed and the rules followed. and i do predict that you're going to see really long lines, serp pen teen-like lines on tuesday, people there for donald trump. it's concerning when you hear reports about special favors and perhaps special rules for democratic voters. we already know that their presidential nominee -- >> what's the special rules? >> -- there's already special rules for her. >> what are the special rules? >> we got reports of that. >> if people are in line when the polls close, people in line at that cutoff time are traditionally and in some places by law. >> right. --. >> allowed to vote.
you want that to happen on tuesday with trump voters. >> i sure do. >> that's what clark county was doing with other voters. >> we've not been able to -- we've not been able to independently verify that. i'm telling you, we just want the rules and laws followed and that will be fine. excuse us that the democratic presidential nominee is somebody who lives under a separate set of rules than the rest of us. that's very clear. she gets to set up private e-mail servers and lie about it and flap the law and compromise your kids and my kids' national security. >> that's not what this is about. >> that's what the voters are concerned about, too, she has a maid, printing out classified information. who is this person who is so selfish and so -- >> i don't know what report -- if voters are in line -- >> it's all over the news. >> -- and the county says, you're in line at 7:00. therefore, we're going to wait until everybody in line at this cutoff point can vote, what's the problem?
>> if that is true -- if that is true, there's not a problem. we don't know that's true. we'll take a look at tuesday as well. we just want the rules and law followed. remember, the democratic party -- >> mr. trump said it was rigged. >> he has been saying that the system is rigged for a long time. >> but he was talking specifically about -- you don't have the information. mr. trump is saying that the system is rigged with these voters who are american citizens voting. and i'm just trying to figure out why that's a problem. why that's an example of people of anything being rigged. people are allowed to exercise the right to vote as long as they are in line at the cutoff point. >> jake, on that we agree. we've said it four times. i'm sure that's a better story to discuss rather than we're playing following the leader. hillary clinton is following us to michigan, wisconsin, new hampshire, all of these blue states on her schedule now for an arrogant campaign that's built fireworks in new york to celebrate her victory on tuesday night. she's got the president of the
united states running around to blue states that he carried twice just to prop her up. that's actually the big story this morning. if we want to say for the fourth time and agree together for the fourth time that if -- big conditional word, if the law is being followed and people are in line, they ought to be able to vote. donald trump has been talking about a rigged system all along. his poll numbers started to tighten after that third debate, and part of it was him talking about a big, corrupt system where people can't get a break. he is the voice for the forgotten man, forgotten woman. we've seen the polls begin to tighten where we're deploying mr. trump and governor pence in traditionally blue states that barack obama carried twice with well more than 50% of the vote, a number hillary clinton hasn't seen all along. why is this woman who starts out with 240 electoral votes unable to find 22 more? it's absolutely confounding. she just can't find the -- >> very competitive race. very competitive race. >> we see it that way. we see it that way. >> we've been covering it that way. and we led the show with a
senator from minnesota to talk about the fact that mr. trump is going into minnesota. >> he sounded very worried, by the way. >> he said he was worried. >> sounded very worried. >> i want you to take a listen to part of this ad. >> our movement is about replacing a failed and corrupt political establishment with a new government controlled by you, the american people. the establishment has trillions of dollars at stake in this election. >> it's a populist message, takes on wall street. can you tell me one policy donald trump will enact that goldman sachs will not like? >> they probably would not like the fact that he is going to renegotiate trade deals and bring jobs back from china, mexico, make americans -- keep american jobs here. i can't imagine that a lot of people on wall street appreciate that. they seem to like the way the
policies have been going more recently. >> why would goldman sachs not -- i mean, goldman sachs, why would they be against trade deals that benefit the american worker? >> well, they don't necessarily benefit goldman sachs. but i think more to the point, when you go back and look at t.a.r.p., which we got from a republican president and continued by a democratic president, donald trump would not be for that. that benefits all these big banks who didn't need the help. in some cases were forced to take the money. >> that was 2007-2008 legislation. >> but who is to say -- >> from eight years ago. >> right. you guys always want to talk about the iraq war, which was five years before that. >> right but -- >> he is going to simulate energy investment. is goldman sachs -- does goldman sachs -- it's a big place. don't make this an overwrought question and answer, but does goldman sachs want the kind of energy independence that donald
trump wants so we stop relying upon foreign sources of oil and unleashing energy off our shores and under our feet right here in the u.s., spur economic growth within our communities, do the hydraulic fracking that is unleashing the natural gas we have right here? >> i don't know. >> there are many different -- there you go. there's an answer. in other words, let's ask them. it's a tool of the big banks that gave -- i'll tell you one more thing he would do. he wouldn't take gazillions of dollars in speaking fees for big banks and pretend somehow he's going to regulate them or somehow he's going to be for the people. if hillary clinton were -- >> we have no idea what he has taken in speaking fees. he has given speeches for money. but we have no idea how much money because he refuses to release his tax returns. >> hillary clinton, as cnn has reported, she has made tens of millions of dollars on speeches and she gives them for free now and nobody seems to want to show up and listen to them. her crowds look like she's a
professor giving a lecture. >> we know she's made money because she has released her tax returns. >> no, we know she's made that money because the clintons are all about money. a $1 million gift from qatar for bill clinton's birthday. last time i celebrated my husband's birthday no foreign government gave us a million dollars, nobody said that we want to make sure bill clinton, inc. makes $66 million. $20 million from iraq. it's not normal. by the way, americans, it's not necessary. you don't have to start the next four years under a cloud of corruption and unanswered questions by gristing and gifting by people who always put themselves first. >> lot of unanswered questions about -- there's a lot of unanswered questions about donald trump because he doesn't release his tax returns. he has given speeches for money. we have no idea what they are be. because he won't be transparent with the american people. >> he's very transparent. here is what americans should
look at when they see -- here is what they should see when they look at donald trump, 104-page financial disclosure form. >> first major party candidate to not release tax returns. since 1976. >> everyone he shows, five stops yesterday, there's thousands and thousands of people there in those so-called blue states. and then the media asks, but will they vote? no, they just stood in line for five hours to go to a rally 15,000 strong but they're not going to show up tuesday. we know momentum and enthusiasm matter. when people see donald trump they see a job creator, builder, problem solver, fixer, somebody who has vision and goes to washington, jake, owing nobody anything. certainly hasn't -- i can guarantee you those tax returns don't show millions of dollars from foreign governments giving to his family's foundation. >> we have no idea what they show because he won't release them. you can't guarantee that. because you have no idea what they show because he won't release his tax returns. >> is he under fbi
investigation? >> you can't guarantee anything. >> is he under fbi investigation? >> is he under fbi investigation? >> ask his housekeeper to print out national security classified e-mails this woman has no respect for the law. >> i know there are investigations by the new york attorney general into trump university, a court case involving trump university. there are plenty of things that mr. trump has not answered questions on. mr. trump is asking the american people to make him commander in chief tuesday 48 hours from now i want to show you what he said saturday about u.s. military commanders participating in the iraqi effort to recapture mosul from isis. take a listen. >> whatever happened to the element of surprise? element of surprise? what a group of losers we have. >> how is mr. trump going to be able to work with the members of central command and u.s. military leaders if he has been calling them a group of losers.
>> no, he's basically referring to the current commander in chief and former secretary of state when he says that. he made that very clear in the debates as well. you have a commander in chief and former secretary of state who just happens to want to be the next commander in chief having an awful record in mosul, in the syrian fake red lines, russian reset, middle east, northern africa several years ago with what was supposed to be a great arab spring. they own all these hot spots around the globe. and people ought to know that. they ought to see not what people say but what they've done. in the case of hillary clinton and her former boss, barack obama, that has not gone well, jake. i don't think anybody can dispute that. if people thought foreign policy and national security records were so great she would be running away with this. she would say, look, i've been there. i was in the room. i made these tough decisions. i was secretary of state. therefore, i'm ready to be commander in chief.
why is she tied among vet -- why is he winning among veteran, military households so handily? he's winning by double digit because people don't trust her to be commander in chief. she's disqualified herself because she runs around with confidential information on some pervert's server, having her maid print it out. she's disqualified herself of being commander in chief by her own actions. >> kellyanne conway, thank you. appreciate your time. good luck on tuesday. >> thank you. with the race this close, both clinton and trump campaigns are worried about the effect that third-party candidates could sway victory in tight battleground states such as new hampshire. the latest poll of polls nationally shows libertarian candidate gary johnson and bill weld with 4% of the vote and jill stein well 2%. enough to prompt president obama to issue this stark warning. >> anybody sitting on the sidelines right now or deciding to engage in a protest vote, that's a vote for trump.
>> here to respond is one half of the libertarian party ticket, bill weld, former governor of massachusetts. thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you, jake. pleasure. >> you've made it clear you consider donald trump a clear and present danger to the nation. you want that libertarian party to get the 5% it needs to continue to go forward and be a thriving american political party. sometimes it sounds like you want to endorse clinton. am i reading you wrong? >> well, you're correct, jake, that i do want the libertarian party to get over 5% in the vote. that would give the libertarian party a permanent seat at the table in our ongoing national political dialogue. one of the issues in this campaign has been do you like the two-party monopoly? the r party and the d party in washington, d.c. we don't like that monopoly. that monopoly kept us out of the debates and deprived us of the
chance to run the table. having said all that, i do see a big difference between mr. trump and mrs. clinton. i do think that mr. trump, with all deference, is totally unfit to be president of the united states. i don't think he has the stability to hold up under the constant pressure and criticism that any president is going to face every day that he or she is in office. i don't think he has the temperament to deal with all the many, many stakeholders at home and abroad that any president is going to have to do it. i think it's a measure of how much our politics has sunk this year that when i say anything even faintly civil about mrs. clinton -- there are shrieks of outrage. how can he say that? doesn't he realize she's the enemy because she's on another ticket? she's not the enemy. perfectly reputable, responsible candidate for president of the
united states and deserves to be treated as such. >> it's just an odd position you're in, i guess. you're on one of the tickets yet you're saying something nice. you're reality based and know that gary johnson will not be the next president of the united states, you're not going to be the next vice president of the united states. to some critics it may seem you're trying to have it both ways, not endorsing clinton but want no responsibility if you and governor johnson, in any way, tip the election to donald trump. am i being unfair? >> i am on the ticket and tens of thousands of people in the libertarian ranks have worked hard to try to get us to this point, a high point to date for the libertarian party. you never know where a vote is coming from. my belief is that the libertarian party polls substantially more from mr. trump than mrs. clinton. there was an earlier media boomlet that our voters were millennials and we were pulling
millennials from mrs. clinton. that's not what my understanding of what the detailed polling shows. we have a right to draw our vote as anyone else does. i have made plain my view of the two candidates and frankly mrs. clinton recently has been receiving a pretty raw deal from people trying to fan the flames that there's some huge fbi new investigation of her e-mail server and, obviously, republican members of congress who are in that hunt. it does appear that there may be some disgruntled fbi agents who appear to think that somehow they've been cheated of their prey. that's not how the system is supposed to work. i think jim comey is a real good guy. i think he made a mistake sending that letter to congress, which essentially is the equivalent of a press release, certainly fanning the flames, jumping in the middle of a presidential election with 10 or
11 days to go. that's not what the fbi is supposed to be about. it was a 180-degree violation of longstanding practice and principles of the justice department. >> governor, are you saying that you think the fbi director should step down or resign? >> no, no. no, i'm not saying that. everyone is so anxious because this is such a watershed election. it's a conscience election. everyone will remember who they voted for this year. the stakes are so high because the standing of the two major candidates is so disparate. everyone who is old enough remembers where they were when president kennedy was shot. people remember where they were on 9/11. people will look at this election and reflect on the vote they took. it's a year when people have to think for themselves and cast a vote of conscience. >> let me ask you about the
state of new hampshire. you're from neighboring common wealth of massachusetts. take a look at this poll. trump 40%, clinton 39%, johnson/weld 10%. so you are having an impact on who might win that key battleground state of new hampshire and those four crucial electoral votes. are you comfortable with the fact that support for you might tip new hampshire and, thus, the presidency, to one of the candidates and, since you are not comfortable with donald trump, what if it is tipping it toward donald trump? >> well, in a way that's conjectural. but the answer is, yeah, i am comfortable with us pursuing the best we can get as a libertarian ticket. i remind you, and the audience, that we are fiscally responsible and socially inclusive. we think that's the best combination of positions and that's one reason why i do think it's important to have the
libertarians have a seat at that table in washington. it's not like we would be a threat to the stability of republic. we don't have a parliamentary system. we have a fixed term system in the united states. you're not going to have an inability because of extra parties to get to a decision on the presidency. but i think the republican party has a lot to learn from us about being socially inclusive. i think the democratic party has a lot to learn from us about being fiscally responsible and balancing the budget, which we have pledged to do in our first 100 days. so i think it would be a long, cool drink of water for washington to have us there. so, i don't feel at all apologetic about us trying to get there. >> all right. governor weld, good luck on tuesday. thank you so much, sir. >> thank you, jake. donald trump's last-minute bid for minnesota and heavy campaigning in michigan has democrats looking at their blue wall. which is why president obama is campaigning there and bill clinton tomorrow. is the blue wall crumbling like cheese?
at the magic wall, david? >> it is certainly causing heartache for the democrats. upper midwest region here. minnesota, wisconsin, michigan, pennsylvania. this is the heart of hillary clinton's electoral map advantage. take a look at the most recent poll. in michigan, 42% to 38%. that's a four-point race in a state where barack obama beat mitt romney by nine points. this is too close for comfort for the democrats. that's why you see so much campaign activity there. also out last night, brand new des moines register poll in iowa, 46% to 39%, seven-point lead for donald trump in iowa. this causes concern not so much about iowa, which the clinton folks already thought was out of reach, but what else is happening around iowa, if that
is happening in iowa. let's go to the electoral map and look at the path to 270. hillary clinton at 268, only two shy of 270. where does she go to find it? they feel pretty good about nevada. they think the early vote there is really good. that gets her over to 274. but this is what's critical. if donald trump is able to dig into a place like michigan, look at that. it drops hillary clinton down to 258. where does she go to find the rest? she must get a big battleground prize like florida or north carolina. that would do it to get her back over 270. but that is going to require some work. that is why you see barack obama, hillary clinton, bill clinton heading to michigan in the final days. they need to keep fortifying that blue wall. jake? >> just how worried should democrats be? with me here, our panel, cnn chief political dana bash, mr. spicer, jennifer granholm, van
jones and alice stewart. i'm going to also bring back in david chalian. governor, i'm starting with you. >> start. >> what's going on in michigan? is hillary clinton going to be able to pull it out? barack obama is there. so they're obviously nervous. >> it's awesome. it's awesome. usually michigan is -- it's totally great. so excited. >> president has to be deployed to michigan, it's exciting. >> i agree. it's awesome. >> we love all the attention. we really do. here is what i would say. what happens not been covered is that michigan has early absentee voting. in that early absentee vote, democrats have banked 50,000 absentee votes, meaning they're over what the republicans have. in fact, the number of absentee votes that we are seeing right now is well over what it was in 2012 for democrats. so, we're feeling good about that bank. and we also know that election day will be key. i would say one other thing that i think is important it realize. michigan's demographics are very interesting. you do have a large arab-american population and you do have a significant latino
population as well. when you combine african-american/latino, arab-american and women, millennial vote even for early is up. we're encouraged. >> i wouldn't want to put my money in that bank, i'll tell you. >> all right. right now, right now! >> governor since 1988 a republican hasn't carried michigan. the fact that you're deploying a president 24 hours before the election says that wall is cracked. state after state -- >> trump is not ahead in michigan. he has not been ahead in michigan. >> why are you wasting the president of the united states' time then? >> dan fa dan dana, why is the president, going to michigan? >> because democrats in michigan who are not on television, when they don't have to be, with all due respect, to be very positive are saying, and i've talked to some yesterday, that they're very worried. they're very worried because it
is narrow and they don't want to take any chances. >> that's for sure. you don't want to take any chances. >> speaking also to the governor's point. what's really awesome is two weeks ago hillary clinton was leading in michigan by 13 points. so it's gone from eight to six to five. now she's only four points ahead in a state where democrats have won that since 1988. and, speaking of on the air, hillary clinton hillary is putting $2 million on the air in michigan. that, in addition to president obama being there, they're worried. >> what's going on? >> beds are damp. >> you're saying democrats are wetting their beds? >> in general. >> but that's a four-point lead. that's within the margin of error for democrats. that's scary for democrats. >> absolutely. i'll tell you why. there is a crack in the blue wall. it has to do with trade. this is a ghost of bernie sanders. >> yep. >> there is a discontent with some democratic voters over trade and some blame hillary
clinton. and so you've got to go back there and shore back up. here is the reality. there is a clear case to be made. and it's being made by democrats, to stay home. come here. listen. you don't like where the bus is going, you don't let a drunk guy drive the bus to solve the problem. there's no point pretending there's not some concern here. >> let me just say, it makes sense that if there is concern that white working class voters who are supporting trump overwhelmingly in iowa and ohio, two states where trump is favored, are really surging and showing him strong support, why wouldn't they show up in michigan? >> that's right. and i also think sean can probably speak more to this than anybody else at the table here. the power of big data right now -- and this is happening to both sides. robby mook said -- >> the clinton campaign manager? >> the clinton campaign manager. he has said the race is tightening. what you can do when you have all this data coming in, make these last-minute decisions. in the final week, bill clinton twice, hillary clinton twice, barack obama once, that kind of fire power would not be sent to
michigan. >> no question. >> unless everybody was worried. >> no question that the polls have been tightening. i don't want to be completely polyanna about it. i would say to your point, van, in that very poll that you describe where she's four points up, she gets better marks on trade than he does, by four points. because people have seen what she has said. bernie sanders has been there, campaigning for her. and she really has been very clear about wanting to renegotiate nafta. >> while we're talking about bernie sanders i want to bring in this tape of a student introducing bernie sanders, i believe it was, in iowa, on november 5th. and he actually has to be escorted off the stage by clinton's iowa communications director. take a look. >> she is so trapped she has completely lost what it's like to be an average person. she doesn't care. voting for another there's no point. >> oops. >> got the millennial vote all
locked up, huh? >> oops. >> listen, that wasn't good. >> awesome. >> you can't spin that. but here is the reality. you do have a bunch of young folks who still have heartburn and rug burn from the primary. and i think there was a view that i think it was a mistaken view, that the young sanders' voters would act in 2016 the same way that hillary clinton voters acted in 2008. they would come home easily. in fact, that has not turned out to be the case. yet what you're seeing now is a millennial surge. you look at all the pop icons coming out. it's actually starting now to be cool to be for hillary clinton. that's going to make a big difference on tuesday. >> the election needs to be kept in perspective. two months ago it was going to be electoral disaster for republicans, not keep the senate, potentially lose the house. we're going to keep the senate unequivocally. i feel good about that. >> unequivocally? wow!
>> every single one is one that barack obama won twice, florida, ohio, north carolina, iowa, new hampshire, nevada, michigan, wisconsin. we have opened and widened this map like never before. it's not just michigan. it's north carolina. and it's where they're putting their time and their money. they recognize that we have widened the map. they're on defense. robby mook should put the fire works away. it's going to be a late night. the momentum in every single one of those states, bar none, is with donald trump and the republicans. >> no. >> first of all, the senate, that was a pretty bold prediction.
we'll see if that happens. >> 24-36. >> i wouldn't say it's unequivocal. >> this is what i want to say, though, on your point. north carolina, perfect example. i did a story on the millennial vote in north carolina recently. there was no question -- actually did surprise me -- how much remaining opposition there was to hillary clinton. and it was actually, frankly, people repeating back words of bernie sanders. >> that's right. >> saying when people tell you how to vote, don't listen to them. i said is bernie sanders now telling you that? it doesn't matter. so it is residual. >> let me ask you, van, before you say that, president obama was in fayetteville, north carolina. there was a nice moment where he -- pro trump supporter who shouted down the crowds, listen to this man. respect this man. he's allowed to do it. there's also a frustration you can hear in president obama's voice in the crowd not listening to him. take a look. >> hey, everybody? everybody? hey! hey! listen up. hey! i told you to be focused and you're not focused right now. listen to what i'm saying. >> he's not just talking about that protester there, is he, van? >> he's not. let me say two things about that that was so amazing. first of all, he's not running. >> i'm just saying. there's something beautiful
about that. he was yelling because he wanted the protester, the dissenter to be respected, not punched, not drug out of here on a stretcher. i think that's very, very important. the other thing is can you imagine what would have happened if that crowd had gotten out of control with the president of the united states standing there? there's a desperation also, i think, to make sure nothing bad happened on his watch. >> the way he handled that was very respectful. pointing out the fact this was an elderly man, veteran. >> and a veteran. >> we need to show respect. i thought that was very good. clearly, he is frustrated with the fact that he doesn't have control. in addition to that, this week, many of the speeches and interviews he has been giving is reminding folks, millennials and all. if you vote for donald trump you're basically handing away my legacy, everything i have accomplished and done as president. he has vowed to take away. he is not really being able to promote and tout hillary's favorables because he is going to lose his legacy. >> there is frustration among democrats and it seems, from president obama, that african-american turnout is not
where it was for him in 2012 and 2008, that it's lagging. >> surprise. >> to van's point, i don't think the clinton campaign was ever, ever counting on african-american turnout to be where it was for the first-ever african-american president. i think we need to see what happens on tuesday. the latino vote may end up being a critical part of the story line tuesday night. if it really does increase, latinos make up a much bigger share of the pie than they did four years ago. and it's one of hillary clinton's strongest groups in that obama coalition. that may make up for a dip in the african-american vote. >> so i just want to come back at you on the lack of enthusiasm. just take two states. north carolina, you all have been reporting that the african-american vote was down. why it was down initially was because of voter suppression. 17 counties, closed down sites, short continu
shortenned hours. now they have seen an incredible spike. in 2012, barack obama got 23% of the african-american early vote and here now it's -- this is before all of the numbers were in from yesterday. it's 22.3% in north carolina. in florida, the numbers are up -- you guys have been reporting that the numbers were down since 2008 but since 2009, the numbers are up 22%. so i'm just saying -- and latino -- let me finish my point on the latino vote in florida up 120%. bottom line is, that new america is really showing up. >> sean, unfortunately, i'm sorry, mission accomplished for the governor. who will win the white house based on who will win the world series? based on the cubs win, what does that mean for the election? ♪ go cubs go
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thomas jefferson was alive and they hadn't invented sliced bread yet. this is for the cubs fan the greatest thing since sliced bread. >> hillary clinton is more of a fair-weather fan. >> i started watching baseball with my dad, went to wrigley field. >> reporter: raised in chicago, she became a yankee fan during her tenure as a new york senator. perhaps worried about offending those in swing state ohio, donald trump did not say anything. although, he did one time sing. ♪ take me out to the ball game >> that was before the owners of the cubs gave millions to defeat trump in the primary. >> it's not properly run. what a rotten job they are doing with the chicago cubs. >> trump seems to have one that game. they have since donated millions to his campaign. the presidential contest is shaping up to be a real nail
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