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hi there and welcome to "cnn newsroom." thank you so much for joining me. i'm brianna keilar. some of the decisions a new president makes comes weeks even months before they have the job. we begin in trump tower, manhattan. site of a high-stakes meeting. heading up the transition team, 66 days before sworn into office. donald trump and mike pence are said to be matching cabinet positions with candidates. a process as of yesterday
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described by one source as a "knife fight" between republican main streamers and outsiders. joining us with what we know and what we can't wait to find out. >> specific names and answers on things. interesting right now, the news developing over the last probably 48 hours including the last couple of hours. you mentioned "knife fight." an individual leaving the transition team we've heard of. mike rogers. former fbi special agent on the transition team. a key player on the transition team on the national security side of thing, and frankly, when you talk to national security and foreign policy folks a little wary of the trump campaign, the trump transition team, seen as a good, a sign things would be okay. taking this seriously. mike rogers no longer on the transition team. officially he thanked the transition team. time for him to leave. what we're hearing behind the scenes, this was part of a systemic purge, if you will.
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a pushing out of top allies of chris christie. pushed out. not top advisers to chris christie, top allies of chris christie also left the transition team. part of a power play. the way it's described. the transition team officially is not commenting on this. what we're hearing behind the scenes now is this is a very difficult process. it is a lot of powerful people and power-hungry people battling back and forth and right now aligned with chris christie, came in with chris christie, odds are you're moving outside the door. >> are establishment republicans freaking out about this? >> yes. trump officials, you weren't with us from the beginning. you told us we're going to lose, get killed from the primary through the election, why should re all of a sudden listen to you? and no more apparent than the foreign policy side. how many republicans signed letters saying thain anti-trump, never trump. those individuals now behind the scenes are weighing heavily, do
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we come in now and try and help? for the good of the country? to be patriots? the trump team saying, you weren't here from the beginning. loyalty matters. we don't care what your resume says. we don't want you here. >> ben carson was very loyal, yet his associate is saying he was offered hhs secretary and turned it down. what i found startling about armstrong williams, business manager's statement, he's a neophyte and it was a lot to ask. he ran for president. >> in the waehite house -- >> when it comes to dr. ben carson you take what they say with a grain of salt. i've been told, at least. ben carson told a place for him in the administration. whether or not a cabinet secretary position, armstrong saying hhs was an opportunity for him, ben carson decided he wants to stay outside of the administration and advise from that capacity. >> or also make a lot of money. >> you can also make money. ben carson made a lot of money
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on the speaking circuit. again, underscores that there are a lot of loyalists here that want big-time positions. people on the outside that want positions trying to figure they're way in. the baseline reality here is, as you noted, we are 60-plus day away. major decisions to be made for hurns if not thousands of government positions and a lot of dissension inside. interesting.tary of state, names we have, former ambassador bolton. also we have rudy giuliani. newt gingrich, bob corker, richard haass. >> we're hearing, i'm told, rudy giuliani has the lead. he thinks he's the best person for the job. one thing i'm continuously cautioned of as we toss out names. look at treasury or defense department, attorney general, getting names back and forth. until donald trump signs off on the name it could change from
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hour to hour. we're hearing now rudy giuliani has the lead, ambassador bolton has a lot of republican support as well. bob corker, always around. keep nap mind and worth noting before we close, mike pence showing up there is a big moment. running the transition team. also somebody with definitive connections across the republican party. what he says what he recommends carries a lot of weight, i'm told. >> interesting. phil mattingly, thank you so much for sorting all of that out. president obama is in greece today as part of his last scheduled overseas trip before he leaves office, and in a news conference you may have seen live here on cnn, he was asked more than once ar the u.s. election, and here's some of what he had to say. >> i think at times of significant stress people are going to be looking for something, and they don't always know exactly what had-iit is th they're looking for, and they may opt for change.
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even if they're not entirely confident what that change will bring. i do believe separate and apart from any particular election or movement that we are going to have to guard against a rise in -- a crude sort of nationalism or ethnic identity or tribalism that is built around an "us" and a "them." and i will never apologize for saying that the future of humanity and the future of the world going to be defined by what we have in common as opposed to those things that separate us and ultimately lead
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us into conflict. >> fascinating comments after the president's press conference at the white house yesterday. joining me now to discuss this is the assistant eder of the "washington post" and cnn political commentator and cnn politics executive editor mark preston. you lived to that. that was a warning in a way, guarding against tribalism. he talked about crude meaning, he's talking about guarding against racism and some of the heightened rhetoric we saw from donald trump and the support he got from the alt right xenophobic, anti-semitic ideologues, basically. this is interesting. he's saying this abroad, and it is a bit of a counterpoint to what he said yesterday, where he says basically he's giving donald trump a chance. he didn't take a swing at him. >> no. i think president obama is trying to do three things, weave them together over the last
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speeches over the day. one, set transition to peaceful transition of power, two what they in the press conference with a few key highlights and today warning there's a potential for division and for a stoking of the divisions that were there in the campaign. if both sides, if both partisans sides and the new administration is not careful. >> speaking to concerns of democrats, sounds like. >> no doubt. not only democrats, also just folks who were concerned about a donald trump presidency and not necessarily donald trump -- perhaps donald trump. really those who he surrounds himself with and who will have his ear at the very last time to make those all-important decisions whether domestic or dealing with foreign governments. >> talk a little about the future here. what donald trump and those he surrounds himself with, what that's going to look like. the knife fight is what we heard this described as yesterday. is mike rogers a casualty of this? he may have been someone who was aligned with chris christie, but is that the only reason why he's
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gone? >> you know, look, we're still learning why congressman rogers decided to pull himself out of it. look, i think it's a disservice actually to the nation, because we all know mike rogers. he has worked here at cnn. he was very well respected on capitol hill. very well respected within the intelligence community and not having his input and his mind and quite frankly his guiding force i think is a mistake for the trump transition team. you described, a knife fight is going on. meaning there's a lot of blood, a lot of blood spilt right now. >> i agree with mark. a respected committee chair, former fbi special agent or senior agent, leaving the trump transition team this early, even though he tried to calm the waters with a statement, this is a loss more for the trump team than congressman rogers. >> so many people are really paying attention who's going to be secretary of state. huge job. and rudy giuliani is publicly campaigning for this job.
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but you look at -- let's just say his personality profile. right? not the most diplomatic guy. so what is the thinking here? what is the prevailing opinion on who's going to be secretary of state? >> rudy's if he wants it. talk about somebody very loyal to donald trump through all this. defended him. rudy is very blunt, says what's on his mind and as you say, the top diplomat for the world. you are speaking for the leader of the free world. the question is, if he does become secretary of state, will he be able to temper that? because that really is a job. and hillary clinton did a very good job for barack obama in tempering it, not making it about herself. >> david, i want to ask you about john bolton. the former ambassador. he is still not sorry about the iraq war. some people have, you know, donald trump obviously tries to make the case he was against it, even though we know he actually
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was not. how could we possibly pick john bolton? >> i think he could, because donald trump likes a certain posture. whether or not he and john bolton agree on everything policy wise, john bolton has been unapologetic, presented and aggressive face. has the resume. right? the former u.n. ambassador. so you could see a situation where a foreign policy type could convince president-elect trump to pick bolton, even if they end up disagreeing how to approach russia, iran and other issues around the globe. >> good point. thank you so much. up next the trump team isn't the only transition tango in town. house republicans are set to elect their leadership time, while house democrats still shell shocked over the trump win just decided do delay their win. meaning perhaps that "inside politics'" d politics'" politics'"-nancy pelosis days are numbered?
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here's what he said -- >> we are on the same page with our president-elect. i talked with donald trump virtually every day. i spoke with mike pence this morning. we are working hand in glove and making sure this is a successful administration and more fortunately that the voices we heard of the american people are acted upon. >> manu raju on political for us. what else was said this morning about what we need to know about? what do we expect to come out of this leadership vote today? >> reporter: brianna, what a difference a month makes. paul ryan just a month ago said he could not defend a campaign with donald trump in light of that "access hollywood" release of trump's vulgar comments. now paul ryan saying he speaks virtually every day with donald trump and working to align their agenda so donald trump can hit
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the ground running with his administration once he gets sboo sworn into office, and paul ryan downplaying in the early part of this transition. asked about steve bannon, given the fact he has ties to so-called alt right movement. paul ryan did not seem to have concern. the real thing we're concerned about is donald trump getting results. are you concerned about donald trump's children potentially getting security clearance? as well as his children running trump businesses? would that present a conflict of interests in your view? paul ryan discounted that completely. he said he should rely on good advisers like his children. so a real sound of unity coming out of the republican conference meeting ahead of these elections. a lot different than the house democrats are experiencing right now. >> oh, no doubt about that. jeff, tell us about that, because democrats are delaying their election. >> they are indeed, and nancy
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pelosi, the pdemocratic leader was hoping for a vote later this wyche. that's not now going to happen. the vote november 30th. 15 days from now. a lot of member we talked to said, the party needs time to regroup. tim ryan, democrat from ohio, is considering running against nancy pelosi. he's not made the decision yet, but i spoke to hill. he said one of the things he believes the democratic party is geographical diversity. look at map what happened last week, the blue is almost, not there in the rust belt area. he said someone should rise up from the ranks of the democratic party to lead it out and reach out to more working-class voters. brianna you know from coving capitol hill, nancy pelosi held a grip. ten years ago made speaker. she has a threat, not a serious threat yet, but democrats are talking at this hour.
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if someone will step forward, and run against her. all part of the broader plan of democrats trying to rebuild their party from the top down. >> she fended off these small challenges before. we'll see if that's the case this time. jeff zeleny, manu raju, thank you. and up next, mexico may not be ready to write a check for the wall, but they're worried. especially if those deported are criminals, how real is the possibility? talking with a member of president-elect trump's transition team about that. you knmegared omega-3s... but did you know your eyes, your brain, and your joints really love them too? introducing megared advanced 4in1... just one softgel delivers mega support. we gave new yorkers a chance to explore their family history with myheritage.com now we'll see what happens. these are my great grandparents. and ten thousand relatives i didn't know existed.
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to say donald trump's victory sent tremors across the border to mexico is an under'ser statement. already preparing for the possibility of mass deportations given donald trump's promises to send back or jail millions of illegal immigrants when he becomes president. joined now by helping to craft the immigration policy. he helped write arizona's kroempl sb-1070. secretary, thank you so much for being with us and i want to start by talking about what your president-elect, what he's said about his plans to build a border wall, a big part of his campaign promises. this is what he said on "60 minutes." >> yeah, could be some fencing. >> what about the pledge to deport millions and millions of undocumented immigrants?
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>> we are going to get the people that are criminal and have criminal records, gang members, drug dealers, a lot of these people. probably 2 million, could be 3 million, we're getting them out of our country or going to incarcerate but getting them out of our country. they're here illegally. >> can you tell us a little about this plan? a couple of things there we heard him say. one was, there could be fences in places instead of the wall. some folks have said that's sort of him back-pedal from what he promised in the campaign. others have said, this is him showing he can adjust on this. what is that going to look like? >> well, i think the way most people use the term and i think the way that the border patrol yutzed, a wall you can't see through. a fence, steel impenetrable fence. there are places where the terrain is really rough and you
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can't build a 20 or 30-foot-high wall but can put up steel fence you can't walk through or easily get over. he said all along he want impenetrable physical barrier. only got that, a small border. a lot to be done there. >> a physical barrier along the entire border kn. no opening for electronic fences some have talked about. electronic monitoring, the goal of which to keep people from crossing the border? >> you know, we already have electronic monitoring and some high don't like the idea of an actual wall or fence, electronic monitoring is good enough. it's not. doesn't stop anyone. just notification someone went through and often times impossible for border patrol get there and apprehend them.
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big changes how the structures are on the southern border and federal law authorizes the department of homeland security toy do it. it's a question of the funds moving forward. going to be a multiyear project. >> he addressed the number of deportations last year, the department of homeland security said immigrations and kufrt um deported people in the u.s. illegal illegally. the president saying up to 3 million. 2 million probably, up to 3 million. where does that number come from? >> that number actually comes from a 2013 report issued by the obama department of homeland security. it estimated that the number of criminal aliens living in the united states is 2 million. and that was, that report is three years' old. president-elect trump saying it's probably gone up. probably somewhere between 2 million and 3 million. a lot of ways to get them out of the united states. 193,000 already in the removal pipeline or cases dismissed by
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obama's administration i. want to understand something he said. talking about gang members. >> yes. >> talking about, sounded like serious criminal offenses he's talking about, and other people have looked at that and said, you know what? you're really talking about a few hundred thousand people deported. explain how serious a crime someone would have to commit to warrant deportation? any type of criminal record? is this misdemeanors? what is this? >> that's a great question, because that's where a lot of the numbers end up not matching. so the way the obama administration right now defines it as far as the removal priorities are, they say you have to be convicted of an aggravated felony or convicted of three misdemeanor crimes in order to qualify for being removed, and everybody else is de facto allowed to stay in the united states. that's outrageous, because many times a county will say, look, we've got gang bangers here. they could be convicted for assault and battery. there was a big fight in the
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city park last night, but you know what? we don't have the resources to prosecute every one of them. in the past would call i.c.e., say remove these people. but obama administration says, no. that doesn't qualify as a criminal, they haven't been convicted. a trump administration saying we'll define criminal more broadly, not so narrowly and get these 2 million out. we already identified those and moving from there. >> tell us, because he's saying, drug dealers, gang members. so what are we talking about? i think it's still -- it's still a little nebulous from what you're describing. >> what i'm saying is, i think, if -- the way you get to 2 million, again, talking about definitions here. if you talk about people who have been convicted or arrested, of any number of crimes -- >> which ones? >> you're talking about a much wider -- any -- any felony. for sure.
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and then the problem is arrests versus conviction. such a tiny percent -- i don't want to say tiny, but a small percentage of those arrested are kwicted. not because they didn't do it, but the count involved doesn't have resources to prosecute every person arrested. where the federal government could come in say, look, he's a known gang member arrested maybe multiple times. sure hasn't been convicted but we ought to get him out of country. that's what this administration will do and what the obama administration has not been doing. >> secretary, thank you so much for joining us. we really appreciate it. kris kobach with us there. >> my pleasure. up next, if you remember your civics class you know we the voters don't actually elect the president. it's the electoral college that does that. that happens december 19th. meaning some trump opponents still think they have time and a way to stop him. i'll introduce you to one of them, next.
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our apologies. >> yes. >> okay. i have been talking to folks who reject donald trump answnonald president-elect and hanging hopes, as you are, that december 19th electors can change this, actually go against what we've seen in the past, faceless electors they are called, and i wonder why do you think that is a good idea? >> well, you know, we believe that the hamilton elect tors there's a failed -- there to deliberate and have 34 days to come around a we the people candidate. we the people republican candidate. we understand that there's many issues, the electoral college and seeking for electoral reform, but's by opening up a dialogue question start to speak and reach across the aisle to everybody, because overwhelmingly i think people in
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this election decided they didn't want to vote for either candidate on either side. >> a lot of people, we know a lot of people did decide that and we saw neither one of them got as many votes as in the past couple of elections. >> yes. >> i've heard people make this case. i wonder what you think about it. that -- that especially people who did not support donald trump if they were to look at this as -- if the shoe were on the other foot and electors were trying to disrupt a hillary clinton election, these two candidates went through this process with a system that is very clear. it's not like the electoral college is a surprise. we know how this works, seen it play out in past elections. how is that not undermining the election itself, undermining democracy to be a proponent of this type of action? >> so we believe that we're undermining the election? i believe we're trying to reach out and speak to the people who
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did not have a choice in this election. i've spoken to so many people that felt the republicans and democrats, they didn't want to vote for hillary, didn't want to vote for donald trump. by doing this, we can reach across the aisle and have another candidate that is going to say more than stop it to the people that are damaging this country. >> they did -- they had other choice is. there were other candidates on the ballot, besides hillary clinton or donald trump. they did have a choice. >> you know in the media, we all -- we know how, we live in a two-party system. there's only two realistic candidates. i believe at last check it was 62 million votes for hillary. 61-odd for donald trump. but the exit polls showed that 58% of american or gop voters didn't want to vote for donald trump and 60% of democratic voters didn't want to vote for hillary and we had 45% of the voting public who didn't want to even vote. which is, i think, a shame and you know, we need to really re-engage the american public by
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providing a platform for electoral college reform. it we think we can do that. >> do you think that you should change the result of what the electoral college we would expect would decide, which is that donald trump is president? >> well, you know, donald trump won the electoral college vote but hillary clinton won the popular vote, and i think many people -- you know, we live under an assumption we live in the democracy but i believe it's more of a constitutional republic. so the final votes are in 34 days. 538 people are going to be casting a ballot for president, and when you have a president who's a climate denialist, that affects 7.4 billion people and i think that is what is so important and why we must speak out, and there are fine republicans who believe that climate is man-made, and we just vary on approach and how to get there. >> all right. michael, we appreciate you being on to talk about this. really sort of a controversial thing, this idea of faithful
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selectors, with the hamilton electors. >> hamilton electers. not faceless. >> you dubbed yourself the hamilton electors and thank you for being on. sources on donald trump's transition team say there are sharp internal disagreement over key cabinet appointments. one like reince priebus and those live steve bannon. clarity and lack thereof over the division of power. bringing in cnn political commentator patti solis doyle and doug chai. what do you make of dnt's cabindnt's -- donald trump's transition? we here's a knife fight arudy
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giuliani. >> hinted he'd be secretary of state, not attorney general. interesting way of doing it. i know reince priebus well and couldn't be happier and producer he's chief of staff. i think he'll do a terrific job and this conversation speaks to trump supporters and republicans who think they can't get a fair shake. in 2008, internal divisions in the obama transition we were told it was a team of rivals, and something that should be applauded. now it's a game of thrones. this is six days old. give the president looe-elect a fair shake to determine his cabinet and see who gets confirmed, who doesn't and what we can do moving forward. >> look, i think a team of rivals jockeying for suspicion a totally normal thing to happen in a transition. right? you've got people who worked on the campaign. who proceeded themselves as being very loyal, sticking with the candidate when others weren't. they're looking for their jobs, and then you have people who know government. right? and experts in certain aspects
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of government. whether it's foreign policy, whether it's, you know, health and human services. but what's not normal in this transition is, senior transition share, soon as you get elected, is one of the experts quitting. mike rogers quit today. and then putting together, putting in the white house right next to the oval office, i mean right next to the oval office, a white nationalist. those things are not normal. >> i want to talk to you about that. steve bannon, has ties to alt right a fancy term along for a neb beaux loyce ideology including anti-feminists, anti-semitics, home ophobehomop. yesterday the president teed up to take a swing for steve bannon and he didn't. today he warned against crude negativism. what are democrats really
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saying? what are obama folks really thinking when it comes to steve bannon and their worries about him being, as you said, right next to the oval office? >> the alt right is coming into the white house. that should be disturbing. not just to democrats, but to all americans. this is -- this is fringe we're talking about. i think democrats are still reeling, obviously. we had what was a pretty imminently winnable race, and there's no sugar coating it. we screwed it up. we lost, and i think right now they're trying to figure out exactly what went wrong, and how to fix it for next time. and, also, more importantly than what went wrong organizely and structurally, where is the heart and soul of the democratic party? right? this is such an assault on that heart and soul, i think the party right now needs to regroup and figure out where to go from here. >> what about, what are
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republicans thinking, doug? you did not support donald trump and a lot of republicans did not. a lot of republican operatives did not support donald trump. they're looking at steve bannon. rudy giuliani, not putting them in the same basket to borrow a term from this election, but rudy giuliani is someone who is, he's not the most diplomatic guy. and yet he's being rumored for secretary of state. can you talk about those separate things? >> i think that people are still trying to figure out their way through this process. again, this is six days' old. we'll see things we like, things we don't like. i look at the press conference with paul ryan outside of ac-5, a basement room and you know well from your time on capitol hill. i look for paul ryan moving forward ledge slasi ilegislativ. what we've seen, broad disfaction with hillary clinton and the obama administration. saw it in 2010, again in 2014. talk about mandates or not
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mandates. there are congressional in a jorties republicans have now and paul ryan house republicans we saw this morning are eakke eage move forward. what they're elected to do, push forward and agenda. >> fascinating. i hear republicans hanging their hats on congressional republicans. not the white house. seeing a pathway forward , and t is with paul ryan, mitch mcconnell and congress many republicans and not the white house? >> paul ryan spent the last three moss not just campaigning for congressional republicans, promoting his better way agenda. everywhere he went we saw paul ryan pull out his note card of a better way. that's is what is a big part of what happens in washington over the next two and four years. >> certainly going to be interesting. patti, doug, thank you so much. up next, let's talk about this. donald trump is about to become leader of the free world. he can't do it alone, though. who among his inner circumstance the will lead the way, national security, dealing with wars, terrorism and allies and enemies?
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perhaps the most sobering responsibility a president
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inherits is keeping the nation safe. we looked at donald trump's plan for a border wall earlier. he has some other foreign oels ideas that could also shake up america's approach to global affairs. how to deal with russia. with nato. the war against isis to name a few. i want to bring in two of our national security experts. we have cnn military analyst lieutenant general mark hertling, served as commanding general for u.s. army in europe in the 7th army and with us, cnn counterterrorism analyst phil mudd, cia counterterrorism official. phil, start with you, because one of the things that a lot of people are paying attention to is donald trump's request that his kids have security clearance. that they are able to see secret things that obviously the average citizen wouldn't be able to have. what do you think about that? and how unusual is that? >> first of all, brianna, i'm not sure a request. i think reporting is there was an inquiry made. i'd like to tell people to settle down on this.
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let me give ayou a clear pictur. a president-elect relied on three individuals in their 30s, young people without a lot of experience, during a campaign. that president-elect now moves into a new position that says, i want these people who i trust also to be part of my national security conversations. for them tore part of that conversation there is to have a top-secret clearance. two of those people happen to be named trump. they are children. one a son fl-in-law. odd, not shocking he wants to rely on the same people he's elied upon all along. the real question is not whether they get a clearance. the question, how you separate out whatever corporate interest they maintain in trump organizations with whether they participate in national security conversations, because i don't think you can do both at the same time. >> no. that's a huge issue, and a potential conflict there. general hertling, when you heard about this inquiry, what was the first thing that came to your mind? are you concerned? there are a number of people who
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looked and said, well, you know, his kids gave him this element of being measured. that they actually had calming advice and were influential on him. i don't know if that's enough for this inquiry to be granted, though. >> yes. i'm in line with phil on this one, brianna. i think a president can pick anyone he wants to be an adviser. when that happens they're going to be privy to state secrets and sometimes the way those secrets are actually garnered. the problem is, how do you separate information which would be as part of those secrets from a private sector effort? you know, can you separate what's going on on behalf of the government with what's going on on behalf of a private business? when you're seeing a cable as an example saying this is going on in this country and here's what's affecting it, could you use that for a business advantage? so certainly, you know, mr. trump can pick anyone he wants to be his advisers, but, boy, we
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better be very, very careful about a a conflict of interests or how they use that information for things other than serving the american people and the government. that's the critical part. >> the big issue there. talk about russia, phil. when you see that vladimir putin and donald trump have the spoken. there's a desire for them to have a better relationship between the u.s. and russia. you look at that, what is your reaction? >> i understand what the president is trying to do. he's trying to reset at a time where not only is the relationship with russia poor but we have critical interests particularly in syria. do we want to continue supporting syrian op saingsd letting a civil war continue or cut a deal with russia that says, maybe that butcher, bsh b bashar al assad will stay in power bull focus all attention on isis. step back. as time goes on, i say, a new president-elect sees what the russians are doing in places like europe what they did in y
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crimea, they might threaten other european countries, things like cutting off energy. hacking american companies in terms of not only u.s. government but a trump white house, i think a collision with reality at some point resetting this effort to make the relationship with putin better. i this very difficult to do. >> how does -- >> and, brianna. >> go on. >> if i can add to that. phil is right again. twice in one day. amazing. what i'd say, look back at the history, the history of our past several presidents, each one of them have come into office saying, i want to reset conditions with russia. and every time there's been a great deal of hoopla about that, and people sometimes forget that russia influences many other countries. you have to take a wide view when you're talking strategy, and you can't just go nation to nation. who else is affected by a very good relation. with russia? certainly if we can improve relations with russia, that's a good thing.
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but how are our other allies going to look that? someone who spent a lot of time in europe and with nato partners, they are scared to death right now across the board that there is going to be a putting aside of some of the things that we have done as an alines against russia, because they're getting into ukraine, into syria, other countries and concerned the cyber hacks going on, not only been directed at us, have also been directed at other countries. like estonia, latvia, lithuania. there is concern about unilateral view of saying, we're going to reset condition with russia without understanding that there's a much wider picture to deal with whenever you have those kind of unilateral agreements. >> gentlemen, thank you so much. general mark hertling as well as phil mudd, appreciate you guys. in agreement today, so unusual, but -- >> amazing. >> a rare moment.
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hello. i'm wolf blitzer. 1:00 p.m. in washington. wherever you're watching from around the world, thanks very much for joining us. we start with new details on the transition of power here in washington. the makeup of president-elect donald trump's team. vice president-elect mike pence is leading the transition team in new york city right now over at trump tower, meeting wit president-elect. we could hear their choices for key cabinet folks as early as later today. right now, congressional republicans are

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