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condemnation from the president today. good afternoon, everyone. welcome to "the lead." i am jake tapper. our politics lead. president-elect trump about to have his first in the flesh meeting with a world leader in his new position. next hour. he'll sit down with japanese prime minister shinzo abe. the revolving door at the president-elect's office getting a workout. people marching in and out of the building all day. nikki haley under consideration to be america's new diplomat. once declaring that trump embodied everything a person doesn't want in a president. speaking of republican lum naries who have said rather nasty things about the president-elect, we learned that trump today is set to meet with governor mitt romney this weekend. the man who once called trump a
con man and predicted trickle down racism would pollute the united states because of donald trump. sara murray is here with me in washington. sources saying they'll be discussing a potential cabinet post? >> wouldn't you love to be a fly on the wall at that meeting. mitt romney is just the latest trump critic to come out and indicate he's willing to sit down with the president-elect and maybe even ponder a cabinet position. it's also a signal from the trump team that, hey, we're not holding grudges, we're looking to build the best team around. as trump towers evolving doors turn in top advisers, potential cabinet picks and family members, donald trump is welcoming some new faces, like florida governor rick scott and texas congressman jeb henserling and south carolina governor nic nikki haley. >> it can be tempting to follow the siren call of the angriest voices. we must resist that temptation.
>> reporter: now sources say she is under consideration for secretary of state. it's the latest indication, according to trump advisers, that the president-elect is willing to look beyond past grudges as he builds his administration. >> it doesn't matter to him what your political party was, where you stood in the primary. if you are the best person for that job, then he wants you as part of this team. >> reporter: all of this as trump's top advisers say he's ready to deliver on one of his key campaign promises. >> we are going to washington, d.c., and we are going to drain the swamp. >> reporter: advisers say trump will enact a five-year lobbying ban after executive branch appointees leave office and a lifetime ban on representing foreign governments. >> it's a major campaign promise that donald trump made. he is already delivering on it during transition as the president-elect. >> reporter: it's unclear how trump's team will define lobbyists and whether people are skirt the rules by labelling
themselves as consultants instead. one senior trump advisor says raiding the government of lobbyists was the last straw in his strained relationship with chris christie. after he presented a transition memo peppered with lobbies, he was dismissed. one question is where trump's son-in-law jared kushner will fit in the mix. a source says while kushner will play a role, it's unclear whether it will be formal or informal. as trump worked to flesh out a government from new york. vice president-elect mike pence headed to capitol hill for meetings with members of congress including house minority leader nancy pelosi and house speaker paul ryan who are already tempering talks of early campaign promises. >> it's too early to know the answer to how fast can obamacare relief occur. what we're focused on is how to get it repealed and what we
replace it with to get the relief to the american family as quickly as possible. >> donald trump has spent ours pouri poring over cabinet picks. >> sara murray, thank you so much. this morning the director of national intelligence. retired general james clapper, submitted his letter of resignation effective january 20th, 2017, to president obama. general clapper oversees all the intelligence agencies, the ones doing indispensable work in trying to snuff out potential terrorist plots. it was expected. it reinforces the idea that there is this big, giant, looming clock hanging over this entire process. cnn chief national security correspondent jim sciutto has more on how trump could fill out his national security team. jim, we are seeing a lot of folks walking in and out of trump tower. is the list for a top national security post at all surprising? >> it's surprising and maybe
lengthening at this point. earlier in the week, for arguably the most important national security post since secretary of state we had been told it was down to rudy giuliani, john bolton. now new names coming up. including nikki haley and even the possibility at this meeting -- it could be discussed at the meeting this weekend, mitt romney for secretary of state. circling in and out of trump tower today, national security contenders from new york city mayor rudy giuliani, candidate for secretary of state, to former defense intelligence chief lieutenant general michael flynn. leading candidate for national security adviser. >> he has been a very trusted adviser, close advisor to candidate trump and now president-elect trump. he is certainly one of the people being considered for that position. >> also meeting with the president-elect today, henry kissinger, retired general jack keene and admiral mike rogers, current head of nsa and u.s. cyber command. trump transition leaders have launched so-called landing teams
to coordinate incoming administration staff with outgoing staff at the state department, defense department, justice department and national security council. however, all the most senior national security leadership positions remain unfilled. and today the campaign added a new requirement. all hires will face a lifetime ban on working for a foreign government. that rule, however, is only forward looking. as it would disqualify candidates such as giuliani who cnn learned kept the serbian government among its list of foreign clients as recently as 2012. >> we're hear to advise them and give our advice. my company gets paid for it. i don't get paid. my company gets paid for giving advice. >> on his final foreign trip as president barack obama delivered stern foreign policy advice to his successor, donald trump, warning him to stand up to russia and to speak up on behalf of the world's most vulnerable people. >> if that voice is absent or if
that voice is divided, we will be living in a meaner, harsher, more troubled world. and we have to remember that. >> the trump team somewhat unconventional contacts with foreign leaders continue. we plerned that australian golfer greg norman was the key to linking up his prime minister with donald trump. they're old golfing buddy relationship paying off in international relations. >> glad he had the number to pass on. jim sciutto, thanks. joining me now from capitol hill, republican congressman adam kinzinger. thanks for coming on. one of your primary concerns are president-elect trump during the campaign was how he would deal with russia and if he would try to appease vladimir putin. president obama weighed in on that topic hours ago. congressman, i'll let you respond to what the president had to say right after this quick break. vo: introducing the new motoz droid
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simply take a realpolitik approach and suggest that, if we just cut some deals with russia, even if it hurts people or even if it violates international norms or even if it leaves smaller countries vulnerable -- >> are you comfortable that president-elect trump will stand up to russia? >> well, it's remaining to be seen. i have been really very impressed with what i have seen so far. names floated out of the transition team. really, what i think was the day, basically, trump won, the weight of the world, the weight of the presidency coming onto him and realizing that, you know, this is a big deal. and now getting spun up on these issues, really beginning to understand the threat that russia poses. i am seeing some great things on the domestic side. i am starting to get more optimistic when it comes to foreign policy. the point i'll point out on the president -- and i agree with what he said -- is that it was under this president, frankly, that russia was allowed to get a
foothold into syria and is now participating with assad in hilling 50 million people. i hope president-elect trump stands up to russia. >> there was legislation that came up on the house today that would have sanctioned russia for the cyber attacks on the u.s. that impacted the u.s. elections. you told me last department you suspected russia was behind the hack. wouldn't have have done something to hold russia accountable? >> yes. going forward we still need to find out, by the way, with every amount of proof we can if they were in fact behind it, who was associated with that. this is a big deal. this doesn't end with election day. especially going forward, i mean, we cannot set a precedent. we are not an old satellite country of the soviet union. we're the united states of america. to allow any country to come in and try to mess with an election system with information or whatever is a big, serious
problem. not just that, but you also can get into, if you find information on somebody, for instance, this is spy craft where somebody can turn them into spies for the state by having embarrassing information. so cyber protection is extremely important. it's something our committee has taken up. we have to move faster because unfortunately technology is moving faster than the works of government in securing it. >> listen to national security agency chief admiral mike rogers talking to the "wall street journal" about the hack of the dnc saying it was intentional and done by a nation-state. take a listen. >> there shouldn't be any doubt in anybody's mind, this was not something that was done casually. this was not something that was done by chance. this was not a target that was selected purely arbitrarily. this was a conscious effort by a nation-state to attempt to achieve a specific effect. >> if we find out definitively that it was russia, what do you think needs to be done? you know better than i, okay, it's the dnc and john podesta
targeted this year. next year it's the rnc. >> yep. >> -- and, you know, who knows. steve bannon or reince priebus. >> so, i mean, when it comes to cyber issues, first off, defense is the best offense. so if we can defend that information, that's important. understand that what you send out on e-mail can be revealed. the other thing is, i think this will have to have to the level of the cold war. you can always find cyber vulnerabilities. if something like this happens, expect something like this even greater to happen to you. there was discussion about, there is very embarrassing information that probably could reveal to some level about vladimir putin and his business dealings overseas. i mean, you have to get to a level where we're willing to go to the wall to also -- so that somebody understands that any attack on our sovereignty would result in at least equal if not greater penalties for them. >> admiral rogers, while we are talking about admiral rogers, at
trump tower today to discuss potentially taking the helm at the cia. counter-terrorism operations were largely shifted from the cia to the pentagon which meant more congressional notification. a measure for of transparency. one would think that installing a military guy at the cia could signal a shift of those operations back to the cia, back into the shadows. would you be comfortable with that? >> well, i don't know if that's necessarily signalling it. but let's say theoretically that something like that would happen. i think there needs -- anytime you can have more congressional oversight is obviously better. you have an intelligence committee out here that reviews this kind of stuff, which is important. i think drone strikes and any kind of counter-terrorism operation shouldn't be put necessarily in, you know, where it's going to mean the best politically but where it will be the most effective. if the cia has better footprints
in certain countries that the dod doesn't, and vice versa, it ought to be given control there. the number one goal needs to be within the confines of good humanity and constitution to destroy the enemy that's trying to destroy us. wherever we can do it best, i'm for it. >> congressman, thank you and congratulations on your re-election. >> thank you. the pope endorsed donald trump. no, he didn't. hillary clinton sold weapons to isis. no, not true. these are just some of the fake news stories filling your facebook feed. and now even the president is weighing in. that story coming up. plus, there was a fight brewing on capitol hill. it has nothing to do with republicans. who is now worried about keeping her job? stay with us. us oral-b 7000. experience this amazing feel of clean. innovation and you. philips sonicare. save now when you buy philips sonicare.
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welcome back. more on our politics lead. there was a time when false news stories were just e-mailed to you by your crazy uncle frank. a long skreed in all caps about how this politician was part of a crime family or secretly responsible for a terrorist attack or gay or a murderer. but today that crazy misinformation comes neatly packaged and professionally presented. places such as the denver guardian, breathlessly and falsely reporting, quote, fbi agent suspected in hillary e-mail leaks found dead in apparent murder-suicide. not true. didn't happen. and the denver guardian is not a real source of news. one cray cray story in the election suggested that first lady michelle obama was so concerned about a pending arrest of hillary clinton the first lady was scrubbing all references to clinton from her
twitter accounts. that fake story was shared by a top talk radio host with his audience. there is no data providing that this fake news phenomenon had an impact on the election but it is, without question, a problem. so much so that earlier today president obama condemned it. >> i would like to turn it over to mike fliven. >> retired general michael flynn, who has the inside track to become president-elect donald trump's national security advisor took to twitter days before the election and forwarded this false and rather unhinged story suggesting that the nypd had found evidence so so many crimes on anthony weiner's laptop including pedophilia to hillary clinton and her crew would be put away for life. the story on something called true pundit.com was a complete lie. nonetheless, flynn tweeted it to his tens of thousands of followers. you decide, he wrote. it has since been retweeted nearly 7,000 times. after all. general flynn, former head of the defense intelligence agency,
wouldn't tweet it if it weren't true, right? false. twitter streams and facebook news feeds flooded with falsehoods have become so prevalent it was called out today by the leader of the free world. >> if we are not serious about facts, if we can't discriminate between serious arguments and propaganda, then we have problems. >> in an era when sharing a story is easier than fact-checking one, the battle for the truth is difficult. >> it's time to reject a media and political elite that's bled our country dry. >> contributing to the craze is a deepening distrust in mainstream media. some of it sewn by giant missteps such as the rolling stone story about an alleged gang rape on a campus. >> a bunch of phony low-lifes.
they're disgraceful. >> that kind of journalism has a long history in the united states, but i think it also contributes to the long-term decline of people's trust in the news media. >> it turns out, lying is a lucrative business. >> according to "buzzfeed" fake news story outperformed legitimate ones on facebook in the weeks leading up to election day. >> we have kind of a perfect storm in some ways because the media economy today really rewards stories that go viral, the stories that tend to go viral are those that tap right into our political instincts. so there is a strong incentive for people who are trying to make money. >> one man behind the hoaxes told the "washington post," there's nothing you can't write about now that people won't believe. adding that trump's campaign manager posted my story about a protester getting paid $3500 as fact. like, i made that up. >> authenticity comes across as lunacy. >> some conservatives say part
of the blame for the phenomenon lies with those who treated popular left-leaning satire programs such as the "daily show" as legitimate news sources even though they engaged in deceptive editing for comedy's sake. >> both facebook and google announced they'll no longer allow fake news sites to use their ad selling services. a small effort to slow a rumor mill running faster than ever. during the campaign donald trump talked about banning muslims. now there is talk about a registry that would end up tracking mostly muslim immigrants. so just what is the trump administration proposing? that story next. it's about moving forward not back. it's looking up not down. it's feeling up thinking up living up. it's being in motion... in body in spirit in the now. boost. it's not just nutrition, it's intelligent nutrition. with 26 vitamins and minerals and 10 grams of protein. all in 3 delicious flavors.
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put on his national security team, some national security issues that he brought up as a candidate are now causing some real anxiety. and anticipation. joining me. olivier knox. rebecca burg, a reporter for "realclearpolitics." and bill crystal. editor of the weekly standard. bill, i know you are learning something about perhaps the timing of when donald trump announces whom he's going to appoint to the supreme court. >> yeah. obviously you can't make that nomination until he is president of the united states. he has to wait until january 20th. i'm told they're seriously considering announcing whom he's going to tom nate as soon as after thanksgiving. let the senate begin its background work so the person can come up quickly for hearings and a vote after january 20th. secondly, that's paying off something he promised to do. the conservatives will be cheered up by the lists of
candidates. mostly sitting judges. they'll probably be very easy to rally republicans around. i think the politics of this is it unites conservatives. a lot of republicans had all kinds of problems about donald trump but they wanted a conservative replacement for justice scalia. the left will fight it because they always fight the supreme court nominations. that's one of the rare fights that republicans are pretty good at. the republicans. they know how to mobilize conservative lawyers to make the case. it wouldn't be bad for the president-elect in december and january to be having a big fight on the supreme court nominee as opposed to a lot of coverage of the chaotic -- otherwise somewhat chaotic transition. >> rebecca. let's talk a little bit about this database. there was talk during the campaign about a muslim database, then there is talk about muslim -- now a database of muslim visitors to this country or immigrants. what is the reality here? what does is the trump team
thinking about proposing? >> we had something like this after. after 9/11 the government implemented a similar database people coming into and leaving the country from particularly threatening perhaps regions of the world, seen as threats. they actually decided to do away with that. dhs said not only were they worried about it unfairly targeting minorities, muslims, but it wasn't really efficient. it wasn't really effective. so i think this is one of the questions that trump and his team are going to have to answer moving forward potentially with this policy, is what problem is this actually solving, is it actually adding any information to our broader intelligence system that we already have, information about the people coming into the country. they'll have to address questions about this unfairly targeting certain religions, certain minorities and certain ethnicities. this has been a major concern throughout the campaign that they're unfairly targeting muslims. we haven't really heard the argument from them yet about this in particular. we're hearing it's something they're looking at.
they had also talked about a travel ban during the campaign. i haven't really seen what's going to become of that. but this is -- maybe some uneven footing to start for the trump transition, because you don't want to start with the most controversial issues necessarily when you're becoming president. and trying to unite the country. it's a tumultuous time. >> olivia, this is one of the things that's so odd about president-elect trump, which is he has stated positions and then stated positions that are different from that position, claimed that he never rescinded the first position, never said the second position and claimed he never said the first one. then you're kind of left like, he can do whatever he wants and it will uphold something he said. >> it's like covering congressman. they say i'm going to introduce a bill that does x, y, z and the text of the bill never drops and there is never anything to actually look at. it isn't real until donald trump proposes it, actually does. doesn't go along with someone suggesting it.
this only really becomes real when he actually says it. >> it ties in, bill, with some of the names we keep hearing being floated, like frank gaffney, who is obviously very controversial, and a lot of muslims think he is an islamophobe. we're told he is part of the transition team and then we're told he's not. >> i believe he's not. i believe some of his friends thought he should be. he was a friend of trump. generally speaking, if you look at this transition, both in the names that are being seriously considered and the policies being floated, they are less extreme than donald trump talked about in the campaign. that's certainly true of the travel issue. going back to the bush/obama policy from 2002 to 2011 that's not radical change. might be a good idea. might be a bad idea. nikki haley as a possible secretary of state. meeting with mitt romney this weekend. i think they're within the limits of trump and trump world, which is still somewhat
confusing and complicated, i would say he's being more establishment, if i could use that term, than i would have expected. >> it sounds like one of the first fights he may have on his hands will be with cities that are self-described sanctuary cities, proud of not enforcing federal immigration laws. if you are an undocumented immigrant and you are pulled over, you won't be turned over to authorities. the sanctuary cities are saying that a lot of these undocumented communities are in crisis and they're having -- they're worried about all sorts of things, understandably so. i wonder what you think, olivia. if the trump's administration's first shot on this issue is, you need to enforce the law. if you don't like the law, fine, lobby congress. fine. you need to enforce the law or else you won't get money. seems like a that's a battle they may be able to win. >> one of the challenges is that the enforcement mechanism is not all that clear. you talked about money. historically it has to be money
linked in some way to the policy question at hand. >> you can't take away education money, necessarily. >> to punish police departments. they can't just take away random, arbitrary sums of money from the cities. it will be a fight. if you are the mayor of a sanctuary city where most of your residents are proud of that status or don't feel that, say, a teacher should be reporting a child because a child is undocumented, if you're that city's mayor if there is not a credible enforcement mechanism, maybe you fight to a stalemate. >> the politics on capitol hill -- i know democrats think it will create a latino surge that didn't materialize before but may in 2020. is this politically something democrats think they could win on? >> it's a wedge issue for both parties, interestingly. it pits not only latinos and hispanics against the republican party. creates this opportunity for the republican party to really emphasize their focus on
security, on border security, on helping american workers, but it's also an urban sort of thing, right? an urban issue. cities where there are more democrats than republicans against the republicans. i mean, it's kind of perfect for both parties to highlight both of their priorities. so i don't think either side is really going to be scared of this fight. >> there is a -- i want to ask you about this fake news story thing because i think it's so fascinating. we just did a piece about it. a man who has made a living off posting fake news stories from the bogus news sites. traffic went up apparently on facebook according to "buzzfeed" more than legitimate news stories, said of the public, people are definitely dumber. they just keep passing stuff around. nobody fact-checks anything anymore. he then went on to slam donald trump, which is kind of irrelevant, or maybe not. but what do you think of this phenomenon? >> it's really terrible. of course, it is fake news. they have phony kind of names of the alleged news source that
sound like they could be a real newspaper or a network or something like that. i thought the most interesting thing in the little package you did on it, though, was mike flynn, who has been rumored to be the leading candidate to be national security advisor passed on one of those, tweeted about one with a link to it. >> it's still there. >> it's a little shocking that the former director of the defense intelligence agency is passing on a pretty obviously fake news story. >> it was so crazy, i couldn't believe he tweeted it. true pundit, whatever. it was saying like all of the clintons and all these other people were involved in child sex slave rings. it was just nuts. >> new york police department investigating it. >> yeah. >> that was the claim. which maybe if you're going to be -- if you are a senior -- the senior foreign policy, national campaign maybe you should call up the new york police department before you post something like that. >> are the satanic ritual dinners. >> he tweeted something about that too. he tweeted something on that
too. >> that one sounds perfectly reasonable. >> your invitation is in the mail, i think. there are not a truth factor authorization for twitter. it doesn't say, are you sure? are you really sure you want to tweet this? really? >> thank you so much. that's a great business idea. are you sure? the are you sure? pick up the first book from cnn politics, unprecedented. it will hit store shelves december 6th. preorder at cnn.com/book. the definition of insanity. that's how one democrat describes reelecting nancy pelosi to her current position on the hill. now it seems other democrats may agree. plus, he wants to build a bridge to somewhere. donald trump's plan to rebuild america's infrastructure and its jaw manufactu jaw-dropping price tag. ♪
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challenging house minority leader nancy pelosi for leadership of the democrats in the house of representatives. this after a small group of house democrats, including congressman seth moulton of massachusetts, called for new leadership, fresh blood. and pushed to delay the democratic leadership election that could potentially replace pelosi. let me bring in congressman seth moulton, democrat of massachusetts. good to see you as always. >> good to see you, jake. >> first of all, what do you think the problem is for democrats? what is -- if you had to narrow it down to just one thing, is it that you're not conveying a clear enough economic message to white working-class voters? you're not motivating the base enough? what is it? >> i am not sure we know exactly what the problem is. there are a lot of disturbing trends in this election. clearly, working-class people feel like they don't have leadership from the democratic party, even when i think our economic policies are clearly helping to grow the middle class. you had hispanics and blacks who voted for someone who is a
racist on tv. so there is clearly a disconnecticut thedisconnect there as well. we need time to have the conversation and figure it out. because after several successive election losses clearly the status quo is not acceptable. >> you got what you asked for. house democratic leader nancy pelosi agreed to postpone the leadership elections until november 30th. so what is your plan? and do you have an alternate candidate in mind to challenge leader pelosi? >> i'm not out there to push a certain candidate. i am not out there to support or go against nancy pelosi. what i am saying is that we need to have a serious conversation and listen to the american people and develop a new strategy. and whoever leads our party ought to have a strategy and that's what we ought to vote on. i came to office through a competitive primary. i had to listen to the constituents i would come to represent. we need to do that as a democratic party before we just rush into a new term with exactly the same plan that we've always had. >> you are from a blue state, but you were elected during the
republican wave two years ago. you are 38. a combat veteran. you campaigned on a platform of bringing bipartisan leadership to washington. many see you as a rising star in the democratic party. why not put your name in the mix? >> look, i have only been here for a couple of years. i spent a lot more time in the marines than i have in congress. but i think it was important in this case for someone who was not interested in running him or herself to stand up there and say we need to have this conversation, we need to step back, and we need to talk about that's what we're doing. >> earlier today nancy pelosi claimed she has the support of two-thirds of the democratic caucus, which is enough to secure the leadership post she has held since 2003. you say that's not true. why? >> well, i don't know if it's true or not. i haven't seen any of the whip lists. again, this isn't about myself or nancy pelosi or any one person who might want to challenge her. it's really about the fact that clearly our strategy to date hasn't worked, and we've got to
articulate a better strategy for the american people. i have held a lot of town halls in my district. the single busiest one was in one of the smallest towns that i represent, just after this election. because so many key people came out and said, there's something wrong here. we don't want this man, trump, to be our president, and yet there is something wrong with the democratic party because people aren't voting for democrats. so we've got a lot of work to do. right now we don't control the white house. we don't control the senate. we don't control the house of representatives. we only control 16 governships across the country and don't control a majority of state legislatures. there is clearly something wrong, and we can't keep going down the same old path. >> time ryan is challenging nancy pelosi. this is what he had to say earlier today. >> i think people have been talking about this since 2010, and, you know, i think we've had this conversation in '10, '12,
'14, '16. we're at the lowest number of state and federal officials since reconstruction. we have the lowest number in our caucus since 1929. and we've lost over 60 seats since 2010. the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and you keep, you know, keep getting the same results. time to move on, i think. >> your thoughts? could you support congressman ryan? >> i am not throwing my support behind any candidate until i see the plan. i want to see what the strategy is going forward to clearly have a different agenda, a different message and potentially different messengers. but the thing is that democrats are really on the right side of the issues for working-class families. we're -- our economic policies will grow the middle class. we have a solid national security policy, quite different than donald trump's, and i think
most americans agree he is not fit to be commander in chief. so we're on the right side of a lot of issues here, but clearly our plans are not resonating with the american people. so we need a new strategy, and we need to hear that from whomever is going to lead our party. >> the top three house democrats are 76 years old, 77 years old and 76 years old. by contrast the top three republicans in the house are 46 years old, 51 years old, and 51 years old. do you think that's relevant? >> i do think it's relevant. we have an incredibly diverse caucus. diverse in age, demographics. we have people from the coast and also from middle america. we have a very strong black caucus in the house. we have to hear from all those different constituencies. and i don't think we're hearing from enough of them today. and young people are a part of that. young people came out and voted democratic. people of color came out and voted democratic. and yet, when you look at our leadership, you don't see a lot of young people or people of color represented.
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welcome back. we're back with more on our politics lead. with donald trump's ascension to the white house, we're paying attention to his so-called contract with the american voter. one of his big promises for his first 100 days in office is working with congress to devote $1 trillion to infrastructure over the next ten years. cnn's rene marsh is here to talk about this. rene, president obama wanted an infrastructure bill but republicans in congress fought him on it. is there any indication that they might be more inclined to help president-elect trump? >> they finally did pass that infrastructure bill, but it was
$300 billion. it didn't come easy. and it really is a drop in the bucket compared to the big bucks that president-elect donald trump is looking to spend. he wants to spend big money on infrastructure. the key questions is how will fiscally conservative republicans deal with this? will they go along with it? and can donald trump really deliver on his big campaign promise. it was a central message during president-elect donald trump's campaign. >> we're like a third-world nation. you look at our airports, our roads. our infrastructure is falling apart. i'm going to start swimming across rivers and lakes now. i don't want to drive. >> reporter: a $1 trillion plan to rebuild america's infrastructure like airports and pipelines and create thousands of jobs over ten years. a promise he doubled down on in his victory speech. >> we're going to rebuild our infrastructure. which will become, by the way, second to none.
>> reporter: today, there are few details on what the plan would actually look like. a $1 trillion investment could cover the cost of repairing and expanding the national highway system and aging bridges, but it still falls short of the $3.6 trillion needed to restore all of the nation's infrastructure. there is bipartisan support for a plan, but on capitol hill the divide is always over how to pay for it. republicans didn't like president obama's $475 billion plan, so why would they like president-elect trump's $1 trillion plan? >> i think part of it is the way that you pay for it. it's a valid point. but it's the way that you pay for it. you can't just raise taxes, because eventually that bill will come due. >> reporter: will donald trump's dream of a $1 trillion infrastructure plan actually happen? >> well, i think his dream will happen if we're committed to working in a bipartisan way. >> reporter: trump hopes to
entice the private sector to fund these projects with tax credits. critics say the projects need to generate profits to sweeten the deal for private investors. that could mean more toll roads and bridges. >> it will be a lot of local opposition to turning roads in toll roads just to do maintenance. and throwing tax credits at the problem would tend to move investment to new things rather than fixing the old things. >> reporter: republicans publicly showing an appetite to make trump's big spending infrastructure plan a reality. but after speaking privately with a lot of lawmakers as well as people within the industry, many of them do not believe that the plan that donald trump has outlined will actually, in the end, be the plan that we see. they believe it will be a much smaller plan. there just really isn't the stomach or the appetite for something with that sort of price tag. $1 trillion is pretty expensive. >> that's a lot of money, especially if you also campaigned as somebody who is going to fight to reduce the national debt.
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