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>> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. breaking news, president-elect offering the job of national security advisor to army lieutenant general michael flynn. this is "cnn tonight," i'm don lemon. general flynn a top military advisor to trump during the campaign. also tonight trump holding his first meeting with a world leader and announcing he'll meet with one of his bitterist rival this is weekend, mitt romney, 2012 republican nominee, famous for calling trump a conman, tony, and a fraud. a source telling cnn, romney is letting it be known he's interested in becoming trump's secretary of state, and tonight, a top trump aide, saying this.
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>> i know mr. trump is very excited to meet with governor romney. he did a great job in massachusetts on many different things and he obviously was the last republican nominee for president so i'm sure they'll be able to compare notes. >> let's dissect this now. i want to bring in sara murray, also chief national security correspondent, jim shoedchude, d gergen, and lieutenant general mark hurtling. i want to start with this breaking news donald trump is make something more job offers. what you can tell us? >> we have learned donald trump has offered the position of national security advisor to retired general michael flynn. no word yet on whether flynn has accepted that job, but, look, flynn was the leading candidate for this position for a while, he accompanied donald trump to his classified briefings.
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he's been a very close advisor throughout the kacampaign and ts transition process. just because it's not a surprise doesn't mean it's not going to generate controversy. first of all, flynn has tweeted plenty of inflammatory things that are sure to get increased scrutiny, now donald trump has indicated he wants him to be his national security advisor, but flynn has faced scrutiny on a couple different occasions for how he's handled classified information. that was sort of a major thing that donald trump used to hit hillary clinton on, on the campaign trail, and flynn's own company is engaged in lobbying and this is at a time when donald trump is eninsistiinsist going to drain the swamp and not bring anyone engaged in lobbying any way near his administration. it's easy enough to cut ties with his company and say i'm going to focus on the government from here on out, but should give you a dip into the pool of things will be talking about in
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the coming days as they look over his record. >> and like donald trump, he's had some controversial tweets, at least one he's had to apologize for. now, jim, trump is truly a trump loyalist. what are they saying about this? >> he has. he's been one of the loudest, most consistent supportive voices for donald trump and early on, and i've been told by people inside the transition, that donald trump wants to reward those people and when you look at this list, that includes rudy giuliani, jeff sessions, these are names already under consideration for some of the biggest jobs, attorney general, secretary of state, in the case of giuliani, and here, mike flynn getting a coveted role, very close to the president, as national security advisor, but just to follow on what saroffice saying, first about tweets when, we say tweets we're not talking about -- you know, just a controversial thing. he's made very public statements
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about the faith of igslam. he said fear of muslims is rational. he tweeted later that the islamic faith is sort of an encouragement or demand to middle eastern leaders that they admit that the islamic faith is sick in his words, so that raises questions about whether the concerning rhetoric that we have said during the trump campaign is something that will continue during his administration. finally, just in terms of his background, when he was head of the defense intelligence agency, he was forced out two years ago. flynn himself, and his supporters said he was forced out because he was pushing for more honest talk about islam, but i've spoken to people who were involved at the time, that he was forced out, and they say that the reality was his management style, not just forceful, but sometimes dismissive. he ruffled a lot of feathers
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inside the d.i.a. and in other intelligence agencies enough so he was forced out by senior intelligence leaders in the administration. >> yeah, the quote is that he had a contentious management style, jim sciutto. i would to bring in david gergen. talk to me and our audience about the national security advisor. what role does he play? how important is employtemperam here? >> the gold standard especially among republicans is brent skocroft who served under george bush senior, as national advisor, and generally has been seen as one of honest broker. you have heavy weights running the defense department, head of the joint chiefs of staff, including the treasury department. the people who composed national security advisors to the president, and then within the white house there's this coordinating group, the national security advisor himself, or
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herself, is the person who pulls all of these other people together. when you have a meeting of the so-called principles, that is these various cabinet officers, the national security advisor is the one who sits -- who runs the meeting. he koshdinates, he brings the agenda, he puts people through it and normally has lunch with the secretary of state about once a week. the secretary of defense once a week. he stays in close cooperation and it is a very collaborative role. he rarely offered his own advice about what the president ought to do. he would have asked to offer his own advice, but rather he bought together the views of the various secretaries and that's why he was the honest broker. he would present something and here are the forepeople, here are your options and here are where they come out. >> i want to bring in general hurtling now. general flynn stepped outside the traditional bounds during the campaign. he's said some blistering things
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as sara and jim have reported about hillary clinton special he's made controversial remarks about muslims, tweeting something negative about jews even. is he the right man for the job? >> yeah, i won't judge that, don. mike flynn is a very energetic, passionate, intense, military intelligent staff officer. that was his career. he served commanders, providing intelligence, and has done a very good job for jsoc and others during the war on terror of the some of the things that he did during the campaign, especially during the republican convention, were an athema to most military leaders. that's not something you can do. you could certainly as a invo e civili civilian, support anybody you want and provide generation. it provided a bit of angst and it was said at the time it was inappropriate for that level both on the republican and the
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democratic said. john alan did the same for democrats and reminded serving officers their loyalty was to the constitution and whoever the president was it. generated some challenges and what retired generals do is of debate. mike tended to go a little bit to the extreme in his support of donald trump. i couldn't hawouldn't have donee did. >> you're a straight shooter. what do you mean by you won't judge that? >> everybody has to be judged by their own style. he decided to link up with a candidate and provide unbelievably strong support. that was up to him to do. it -- some will debate. i would be one of them. it kind of goes against the professionalethi ethics, but mi did it. that's what he wanted to do. >> jim sciutto, back to you. >> yes, don. >> go ahead, david. >> yeah, i think the issue for him, whether he'll be effective
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is whether he's going to be a team player, but whether his combative nature will bring on a lot of conflicts. the best national security advisors have been very collaborative, very respectful of the cabinet officers, and hard questions. i don't know how that style will fit. you know, it -- i rudy giuliani, for example, if he were secretary of state, he has an explosive personality. i could see those two styles coming in conflict. they could also work very closely together. flynn -- general flynn also does have the confidence of donald trump that's important and what we're seeing is a pattern of trump turning into a loyalist. >> jim sciutto, you want to say? >> just in terms of talking about his record, he was forced out as head of the d.i.a. keep in mind going back further, he was stanley mccrystal's right-hand man, his intel officer during the heat of the
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battle against al-qaeda and the taliban and afghanistan. he has a decorated military past, widely known -- even from those who criticize his leadership as a brilliant tactici tactician, intelligence tactician. he has a decorated background, as well. i will say beyond his management style, the concern you here also about positions, particularly for instance on a country like russia, he's -- he like donald trump, has expressed views that some see as too friendly, possibly to russia, and there's some agreement over this, but we're seeing a statement from adam shift, ranking member on the house intelligence committee and he make this is point saying that you need to be in his view skeptical of russia's intentions and he's concerned that michael flynn is too forgiving of vladimir putin's leadership style and russia's aggression in eastern europe, syria, elsewhere. >> let's talk more, sara murray,
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more news about the transition team. there's news about senator jeff sessions of alabama, as well. what you can tell us? >> that's right. we are learning senator jeff sessions is the leading candidate to be attorney general. now being the leading candidate could mean that could still change. we know that donald trump is meeting with a lot of different people, but at this point, sort of where we were expecting the ship chips to fall for donald trump. he's an early supporter, and multiple sources tell us the job senator sessions wanted was that donald trump wanted to reward him and his loyalty by giving him what he wanted. it is the kind of hosting that does require senate confirmation. that's one of the things the trump team will be looking a. just to jim's point, one other thing we've sort of learned today about how donald trump's transition is shaping up is the fact he's going to have this meeting over the weekend with
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mitt romney, someone who has been very critical of him, and one of the things that we're expecting them to discuss, is the potential secretary of state job. now that doesn't mean mitt romney is a finalist, or contender, or donald trump's tom pick it. means they're going to meet and this is one of the things we expect them to discuss. mitt romney's view of russia is so far from where general flynn is. remember when he was running for president he called russia's major geo political faux. this gives you a sense how these interesting players are convi convirging on donald trump's position, and wants these meetings before he puts his chips on the table about who he wants. >> thank you so much. please stay with me, david gergen. much more of our breaking news, president-elect trump offers role of national security advisor to lieutenant general michael flynn.
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our breaking news tonight, the president-elect offering position of national security advisor to retied general michael flynn, a top aid during trump's campaign. i want to bring in phillip bump, selena zito, and david swerdlick with the "washington post." phillip, general flynn, controversial pick, what's your take? >> yeah, i think that one of the things we've seen as donald trump has been walking through this process to figure out what
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his administration looks like, is he remaining loyal to those who were loyal to him early on. he's been a very, very vocal advocate, someone would say probably too vocal, but a very vocal advocate for donald trump and one of the indications we've been looking to for donald trump to temple his gut instinct to some know who can be much more appealing to folks, this may suggest he's going the opposite direction. >> you're not surprised? >> not at all. >> david swerdlick, you heard general herdling use his words very cartly. fly -- cartutiousl, why. what message is he spending? >> there was that point in the campaign where flynn's name was being floated out there for vice president. that didn't last long, but it's not surprising for someone who
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has supported donald trump throughout the campaign, he was offered the position of national security advisor. i think it's interesting that what will be less interesting about flynn to me is this controversy about whether he was too far out there as a military guy in supporting trump is what happens when he's in the position of national security advisor and starting to advise president trump on decisions. you know, what the trump team has not fully hashed out in my view what they're going to do with issues like syria. are they going to have troops on the ground or how they're going to approach russia and even though flip has defined positions, i know he's a little bit sure of what he thinks and president-elect trump is a little bit more open to suggestions. >> in that vein, selena, he's advocating for a closer relationship with russia. a lot of conservatives are alarmed. will they support it? >> that remains to be seen. i think our relationship with
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russia began with bush, with the -- you know, it was a pretty good one. he saw something in his heart and it has eroded over the obama administration. not by obama's fault. i'm not saying that, but i think people are open to seeing something different. they don't want to go back to the tensions that we've had before. i reached out to a couple of retired generals who started with flynn, as long as -- as well as current military, and among them he's considered the best of the best. he has the respect of the military when he was -- when he was in there. the top mind in terms of intel. a lot of people didn't like his -- when he went political, but soldiers tend to be like that. they still respect his talents and his keen sense although they said he's a very blunt guy. >> mr. gergen, let's talk about the other comings and goings at
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trump plaza. it's almost like a red carpet. nikki haley, ted cruz, instead of parading through the lobby, it's like a who's who. >> who what's your take on it? >>kissinger didn't come through the lobby. i'm pretty sure he's broadening the conversations to get outside his inner circle and i appreciate the fact that we and the journalists should appreciate there at least being much more open than what tear doing and those are good signs. but i will have to tell you, i think what's really spitrikings about flynn is whether donald trump is going to temper his views that he expressed during the campaign on foreign policy, whether in fact he's going to tear up the agreement with i ra, with whether he was going to walk away from the paris climate
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change, and put isis front and center and let the assad regime pound away at aleppo, which is -- and what we've seen now, and the election of mr. flynn, is not only the loyalist, but an indication that in fact, he does not intend to change course. he does intend to move forward with what's going to be very controversial foreign policy moves that are going to cause a lot of heartburn, at least in europe, and so if you're mitt romney, or anybody else, in the state department, you've got to decide, do i really want to go along with these policies. normally, what you try to do is put your national security team together, and in a group if you can, or at least have the pieces in place. it's not clear whether donald trump has those pieces in place or only has the flynn piece in place. and how others will respond who might be joining the team, do they want to work with flynn, do they want to go down the road that flynn seems to suggest.
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>> is trump generally looking at these people or is he just trying to look magnaminous to his former opponents? >> i've been wrong so many times with donald trump. >> or is he trying to own the news cycle and maybe take -- >> that's definitely -- >> when you see the story at trump tower he's trying to take the focus off steve bannon. >> donald trump loves being in the news every day, there's no question about that. i think for example, mitt romney this saturday, i don't think there's bat's chance in hell s mitt romney's going to end up secretary of state. >> but we talk about it. >> it's a good sign to bring in someone with a very contentious relationship. it's a good sign, but i don't think it's going to go anywhere. >>y is lselena, do you want to talk about that? is he's meeting with the secretary of state considering.
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>> we do have this great tradition of bringing our rivals along. you go back as far as as lincoln -- let me just play this sound boit of mitt romney during the campaign talking about donald trump and you can respond let's play it. >> donald trump is a phony, a fraud. his promises are as worthless as a degree from trump university. >> go ahead, selena. >> well, after that, we do have a great tradition of bringing our rivals along, presidents do. i mean, the battle between suard and lincoln in the 1860 republican primary was just devastating to suard. you look at johnson and kennedy. kennedy hated l.b.j., but he brought him along, or ronald reagan and h.w. we do this in -- in our lines of
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presidencies. i look at this way, trump is reminding me of a -- an nfl football coach, right? >> yeah. >> and he's bringing all these all-star college kids in to see -- you know college players like the best of the best to -- and sort of sizing them up, and then he's calling in you know, the college football coaches that have -- have -- you know, have played these guys like kissinger, or romney, and he's asking what do you think of these guys. so you know it's an interesting process, but you know it's kind of -- it shows that he's welling to look outside of that sort of loyaltyist group and look at other people. >> hey, david swerdlick, quick question for you because i have to go. do you think he would seriously offer the job to mitt romney and would he take it? >> i don't know but i think he should. mitt romney -- >> and does he have enough foreign policy experience to take that job? >> less than some others, but
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more than some of the other names that have been floated out like governor nikki haley, like mayor rudy giuliani, not a ton of foreign policy experience. can i just add selena is my hero for bringing up the 1860 republican primary. that was a fun race. >> it was like political jeopar jeopardy. m mitt romney, he speaks french, former governor. at a minimum, he's considered a states man. whether it's being legitimately offered is one thing, but i think that president-elect trump would be wise to give it some serious thought. >> david gergen, did mitt romney take it, yes or no? >> sounds like he wants it. sounds like he's very interested and surprised. >> fair enough. >> thank you very much. >> coming up, my next -- my next guest calls donald trump's pick for national security advisor, an embarrassment. we'll talk about that next.
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donald trump's pick for national security advisor is retired army known for recording
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controversy. here's to discuss, columnist for the "new york times," nicholas chrisoff. what do you think of his choice, michael flynn? >> i'm saddened by it. mike flynn is a fascinating figure. he was a first-rate general. he was very well regarded in the military. he's very smart. he knows international affairs and yet in the last few years, within foreign policy circles, he's kind of regarded as having been unhinged. he was fired from the defense intelligence agency for basically in comprehend fetence being a really bad manager and began to take positions that were truly bizarre. and this -- earlier this year, he circulate a video on twitter that was not just islam phobic, but said islam wants to quote slave or ex-termexterminate f l
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policy. >> this is a new low, and he tweeted this, shared a link from that user saying, cnn implicated the ussr is to blame. not anymore, jews, not anymore. that was one of the things that he -- >> and i've known national security advisors -- >> and he apologized. >> and any one tweet -- everybody tweets stupid things sometimes. there's been this pattern and i've known national security advisors going back to the amazing brent skocroft, the republican. there are so many smart republican strategists who would do a great job and to pick somebody who is really regarded with in the foreign policy establishment as unstable and to think of that person navigating a north korea crisis, or china crisis is frightening. >> let's talk. you said -- in the intelligence
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community, he has somewhat of a complicated background, but most of his military career, he's seen as an astute biintelligenc officer. he served multiple tours in iraq and afghanistan. he's been part of a flame flower calling president oba -- flame thrower calling president obama a liar. >> a few years ago, i would have thought heating gre'd be greate job. he reminds me of dick cheney, who really knew his stuff and after 9/11 became a different dick chainy and mike flynn has become a different and it sure seems an unstable mike flynn and i fear he's the one who would take charge in the white house. >> i'm going to put up something that colin powell said, because other generals have expressed concern about flynn, about his appearance with vladimir putin, about his unrestrained political support of trump, and here's
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what colin powell said about gener general flynn in a quote from a hacked e-mail. he said flynn got fired as head of d.i.a., abusive with staff, didn't listen, worked against policy, bad management, et cetera. he's been and was right-wing, nutty every -- every since -- he means ever since. is that fair? >> i think it's about right and reflects his be wilderment, that here's a guy that is very talented, very smart, and well-regarded that has kind of fallen apart. he's taken money from government it's he took money from turkey and he did not disclose it, and began advocating on turkey's behalf and advocating that gulan the deported back to turkey, to -- which was an astonishing position for possible national security advisor to take. >> and also andrew kisensy,
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michael flynn's son, has posted racial things on tweet from 2012. he said one thing minorities voted for b.o., meaning barack obama, is the color of his skin, and not for #election 2012. >> that's the mildest the son was tweeting. you can't hold the son's tweets against the father, except the father chose him as his own chief of staff and i think it just fits into this narrative of in the last few years, general flynn going at a bizarre direction that makes me p profoundly uncomfortable of the thought of him as a national security advise our. >> it seems he's going to recommend them for a job. some people who did not support him for the campaign does that give knew hope?
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>> one of the things that i was really disapproximatspirited by elliott cohen, a republican, professor. he encouraged fellow republicans to work for the administration in hope to provide comp healete leadership and he wrote an article yesterday essentially withdrawing that advice, and saying that his own contacts with the trump transition forces had made him feel they would compromise their integrity to do so. there are a lot of smart republicans out there and we need them in this administration but it's no sign we're going to get that. >> i have to go. i have 20 seconds left, but your column is called 12 step program directed to president donald trump and people who feel traumatiz traumatized. do you feel feel traumatized? >> i'm working through my own 12 step program and trying to stay optimistic about the things we can control. >> thank you for coming on.
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>> thank you. megyn kelly joins me to discuss the moment that changed everything for her in election 2016, and a lot more. you don't want to miss it.
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my next guest is a fierce competitor and a close friend. i've been waiting a long time to host her. joining me is megyn kelly, the host of the kelly file, which i watch every single night and the author of settle for more, which is fascinating. welcome. >> thank you. >> many people don't know how you and i became friends. i said something on your -- i took offense to something you said on your show. we met in person. you called me out and i told to you lighten up and ever since then we've liked each other. >> it was the beginning of a beautiful friendship. this quote in your book stood out to me and you said "in my family, we're proud of and kind to each other, but we often show our love not by being falsely polite, but by letting our guard down and saying what we really think. we're on the radical honesty program, which has led to greater intimacy. the only problem was in this particular campaign you have to do that properly or you end up
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offending a lot of people. >> i have a complete complex my appeal skin. there is some risk. it's not the full radical hones honesty, but my point is my parents never built me up falsely. i wasn't raised in a family where it was, you're so smart and you're so special and you're so beautiful. in fact, it was quite the opposite. i talk -- the story in there about my mom who people will fall in love with and i said mom am i really smart. you're about average she said. >> you've got to do it right or you end up offending a whole lot of people, which has happened with trump and clinton with this particular presidency. >> and i get to that later, which there have to be limits. i'm against the p.c. society. >> and so am i. >> there have to be some limits and as i write in the book you
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can be totally in favor of a non-pc society and you can feel refreshed by somebody's non-pc way until they mention the n-word, and then you're offended. >> let's be honest about this moment, play that. >> what is it with you and megyn kelly? >> well, i just don't respect her as a journalist. i have no respect for her. i don't think she's very good. i think she's highly overrated, but when i came out there, what am i doing? i'm not getting paid for this. i go out there, and you know they start saying lift up your arm -- and i didn't know there would be 24 million people. i knew it was going to be a big crowd because i get big crowds. i get ratings. they call me the ratings machine. so i have -- you know, she gets out and she starts asking me all sorts of ridiculous questions and you can see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever, but she was in my opinion, she was off base.
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>> you told anderson that that moment changed sglefeverything. >> yeah, it was surreal because i was in my office. we pretaped the kelly file and i was watching you on with trump and he was giving you that interview and i heard those comments and he had been going off on me for a day and the rhetoric had been getting stronger and stronger and then he said that, and i thought, holy -- whoa, and i knew exactly how people were going to react and i texted or e-mailed our guy putting out a lot of fires and i texted you. you and i had a text kpaexchang which we do a lot and said like you can believe, right? >> and i said for to you take the high road. >> i was a little worried that you would be upset that i didn't say anything in that moment, but the reason i didn't say
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anything, number one, i wasn't sure if that's what he was talking about and i didn't want to put words in his mouth, but i wanted his words to stand on their own and let the audience decide. did you understand that? >> i had no issue with the way you handled that and for the record, i've never taken a position on what trump's meaning was. i'm not in his head. i know his daughter pretty lee and she's told me that donald trump doesn't talk -- potty talk, for lack of a better term is not his thing, and so it really may be that he didn't mean it. i don't know. but either way, it set the internet on fire, and it became one of those things in the campaign that would just keep coming up over and over and over as you know. >> in many ways the first question at that debate, sort of set the tone as to what would happen throughout the campaign if you look at the "access hollywood" bust and on and on and on from there, where do you think so many people, women and men, were able to look past his words and his treatment of women
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and elect him president? >> well, i think they were voting for policies and for change, and not necessarily for the perfect character. right? because obviously donald trump has said some very controversial things, not just about women, but about many minority groups. but they're thinking to themselves, he gets me, he understands my life, he can improve the economy and hopefully help me get a job and i understand that, too that's how they vote. i want to make sure my kid is taken care of and i want to make sure i'm heard and not forgotten out here and while maybe i don't love those comments, i can live with them and i know this is true because we have a lot of donald trump supporters who watch the kelly file, a lot of them and we never lost them. for all these attempts at a boycott and all that nonsense, or ratings remained hugely strong, they're stronger than ever and i get e-mails and texts and tweets saying i love donald trump, but i love you, too and
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maybe they didn't like my question, but they forgive me and maybe they didn't like what he said about me, but they forgive him and they can keep both those things in their heads at one time. >> as i'm reading the book -- and i'm not all the way through because i just got a copy of it, but in a way, it reminded me of the speech secretary clinton gave last night where she told her supporters -- not that you're a clinton supporter -- she told her supporters to the to give up and there were moment when is she couldn't get out of bed and she wanted to bury her head in the sand and i'm sure there were moments like this but you got up and you kept going. do you think that men and women face challengines differently? >> i don't know if i can ascribe it to our gender, but i will say that whole purpose of writing this book -- >> or loss. >> -- or loss. loss is so individual and unique, but i talk about in the book, "settle for more" adversity is an opportunity and you can't get any stronger unless you have some, you know,
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you look at people who you think are really strong and really courageous and you want to be like them, then you're going to have to have some adversity right there. that's the one silver lining when hard times come your way that is your chance to grow and the greater the challenge, the greater the chance to grow ex-pennant ex-pennantly. so this past year has been full of adversity on many levels and i think i am stronger as a result of it. >> we'll be right back. more with megyn.
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back with fox news anchor and author of "settle for more," megyn kelly. let's talk about donald trump and his transition team. what are you looking for? >> it's fascinating he reached out to mitt romney, don't you? what a great thing to do. that's a great gesture by donald trump. they could not -- mitt romney could not have ripped on donald trump any more than he could. clearly he's sending a signal he can let grudges go, let bygons
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be bye-gones. >> we were mentioning you when you said journalists are going to have to steal their spines because of their adversarial relationship and really calling out members of the media and you don't think that'll change, even though he's reaching out to people like mitt romney? >> as a strategy he's hoping to discredit the media that'll render any criticism of him, you know, unnecessary -- unbelievable, not believable, and so if he can paint all of us with this wide brush of we're disgusting and scum and not to be trusted, then it doesn't matter what we report or what we write because we're scum and we're disgusting and we're not to believe believed. i think it's a strategy of his. i also think he really gets upset when he sees negative press, even though he generates it intentionally in a way.
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>> right. >> but i do think we're going to have to steal our spines because i think it's only just begun. >> sometimes you're look a man or woman on an island because i see you -- you know, you're -- i don't know what your political beliefs are and you don't know mine. people are often wrong about what they think i am and i think it's probably the same with you. and i wonder how you are dealing with the guys over at fox news, because you say they're your friends but they often criticize you. how do you deal with that? >> i'm not friends with everybody. you know it's like a family. you've got your family members who you love and you have the weird uncle who you just try to avoid at the christmas dinner table. for the most part i love my colleagues at fox news and i've developed a lot of really close friendships and those guys have been shoulder to shoulder through a lot. >> is it tough for some of the guys who have been there forever to see a woman now becoming -- or who is the face of fox news
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now? is that tough for them, do you think? >> i don't know. >> come on. >> i'd like to believe not. i mean listen i'll say this just in my positions in various jobs in life, i do think as a woman it's easier when you're coming up the ranks than when you're at the top. >> yeah. >> i think when you're aspiring to power, men in power have an easier time with you than once you've reach toded it and you w to exercise it and you do act as somebody who has it, and that's just a reality of 2016 america and it's my reality, too, to some extent. >> so we're more alike probably than you -- than you realize because i was bullied a hit bit high school and adversity shapes and forms you and i would take none of that back and you write in your book and also your father died at a young age and we also talk about that, too. and i wondered if we would ever see happiness again and you asked your mom that on the night your father died and she said, yes, so will you.
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>> i absolutely will and have, you know, i mean, part of the unfrnu unfortunate things about having so much news in my book is the core of the book has been lost a little bit in the first couple of days of p.r., and what i'm trying to say in this book is a small town girl from upstate new york makes it to the top of the news business and has a lot of bumps and bruises along the way just like anybody else. i was badly bullied. i lost my dad at a young age, i suffered through considerably malase. i struggled to make friends. >> i was heavy, i had bad skin, acne. trust me. but i worked hard, don, and then i worked even harder, professionally and personally, to pull myself put of it. and that's how i emerged stronger. i don't want anybody looking at you or me and thinking they've got it made, they probably had a
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connection, they probably sailed in or got lucky. we're lucky to be here in these jobs, but it's -- luck is only a smart part of it. it's hard work, and tenacity, and the refusal to settle for less. >> thank you. >> thank you for having me. >> this was a pleasure. >> me, too. >> the book is called "settle for more," megyn kelly. >> lots of luck. een life and de. for partners in health, time is life. we have 18,000 people around the world. the microsoft cloud helps our entire staff stay connected and work together in real time to help those that need it. the ability to collaborate changes how we work. what we do together changes how we live.
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>> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. breaking news, president-elect making a key job offer. this is "cnn tonight," i'm don lemon. trump choosing retired army general michael flynn to be his national security advisor. trump will also sit down with mitt romney, the 2012 gop nominee, who had harsh words for donald trump during his campaign for the white house. a source telling cnn that romney's letting it be known he's interested in becoming secretary of state. let's discuss. i want to bring in sara murray to start us you'off. donald trump filled another key port in his administration. what are you learning? >> we do know that donald trump has made the offer to general michael flynn asking him if he wants to be as national security advisor. our sources telling

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