struggle for survivele. >> it wasn't thinking i'm not going to make it. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> good morning. welcome to your "new day." i hope your travel plans go well. this is a tough day. we'll give you the reports on why. president-elect donald trump backing off some of his most extreme campaign promises. he gave this interview with "the new york times" on the record. trump says he's not going to go after hillary clinton. he says she suffered enough. she also softened his tone on waterboarding and climate change. >> he also denounced hate groups, and talked about potential conflicts of interest in his administration. the president-elect is now in florida for the holiday. but we have one new high-level nomination to tell you about this morning. will there be more announcements this weekend? we have it all covered for you. so let's start with cnn's sara murray. good morning. >> whether it comes to climate change, torture, donald trump's
pledge to throw hillary clinton behind bars, it turns out all of those promises that were really the calling cards of his campaign, appear to be a little bit more flexible than he was letting on. president-elect donald trump now suggesting he won't push for hillary clinton to be prosecuted over her private e-mail server or dealings within the clinton foundation. in an interview with "the new york times" trump saying i don't want to hurt the clintons. i really don't. she went through a lot and suffered greatly in many different ways. while it may be up to trump's justice department to make the final call on the matter, the tone is a sharp departure from the one he struck on the trail. >> she deleted the e-mails. she has to go to jail. if i win, i will instruct my attorney general to get a special prosecutor to look into your situation. >> reporter: trump also hinting he has changed his mind on waterboarding and now says he might not abandon the international climate accord,
saying he has an open mind to it. trump trying to brush off repeated questions about how he'll ensure his actions as president won't benefit his business business saying, in theory i could run my business perfectly and run the country perfectly. there's never been a case like. the law is totally on my side, the president can't have a conflict of interest. trump reiterating that he will step back, leaving the trump organization for his children to run. >> i don't know if it's a blind trust if ivanka, don and eric run it. is that a blind trust? i don't know. >> reporter: but that, too, poses a problem since his daughter, ivanka, has been meetings with foreign officials since her father became president-elect. trump complaining if it was up to some people i would never see my daughter, ivanka, again. and making the case for his son-in-law, jared kushner, to have a role in his administration. maybe as a special envoy to the mideast. trump boasting, i would love to be the one who made peace with israel and the palestinians.
that would be such a great achievement. trump also trying to distance himself from the support of neo-nazis. after this video surfaced of white supremacists cheering him on with nazi salutes just blocks from the white house. >> hail trump. hail our people. hail victory. >> reporter: trump denouncing the group, saying, of course, i disavow and condemn them. it's not a group i want to energize. if they are energized, i want to look into it and find out why. in addition to this, dawned is continuing to flesh out his cabinet. sources say he will picnic can i haley to be ambassador to the united nations. remember she was a sharp critic of donald trump throughout the presidential campaign but she recently met with him trying to bury the hatchet and talk about this potential job. it could also help shield him against criticism that he's put older white men in a lot of these top cabinet slots. >> all right, thank you very much. appreciate it. let's discuss this with longtime trump supporter wisconsin congressman sean duffy. the best to you and your family for thanksgiving.
>> you, too, chris. thanks for having me out. >> all right so make the case for nikki haley. people know her. very strong political presence down there in south carolina. showed her at her best during a very hard time during the hate shooting down there. critic of trump. no foreign or diplomatic experience. she'd be the first person to go in to the ambassador job to the u.n. without that kind of background. what's the plus side for you? >> listen, she's a smart woman. she's been governor of south carolina. she's accomplished. i don't think you need this great history of diplomatic experience to go into the u.n. and be successful. so you take accomplished, smart people and plug them into the right position and you'll see them flourish. you'll see them grow and you'll see them represent united states very, very well. and i think what you want to do is find people who will share your world view, especially when they go and represent you from the administration to the u.n. or any other post. and i think probably mr. trump saw that there is that
connection that the two share on how they view the world, and that's why she was selected. i would imagine. i wasn't in the room. >> are you a romney or a rudy guy? >> you know i think there's something to be said about loyalty. i like rudy giuliani. i think he's a great guy and would serve the country well. but again, i think mr. trump is looking at different things in different candidates. and i think mr. romney is well respected all over the world. and he ran a great campaign for president. though he said mean things about mr. trump i think it's pretty remarkable, and says a lot about mr. trump that he's brought mr. romney in to the fold and even is considering him after the nasty things he said about mr. trump for the position of secretary of state. and not only that, but he's bringing in nikki haley. it's quite remarkable that he's looking for talent, not trying to settle scores. >> the blowback on his light
touch with disavowing neo-nazis and alt-right hate groups. why doesn't he call them neo-nazis. if a group said we're happy about duffy. you'd call them out by name. say i'm not about that. he's not that heavy handed here. why? >> well, i don't know, i'm not in the room with mr. trump. but you also have to recognize, chris, that he is trying to put together a government, and he doesn't have much time to do it. >> he's got time to talk about "saturday night live" and "hamilton" and everything else that piques his interest but this he doesn't have time for? >> you know, but to be very clear, he did condemn these people. mike pence didn't go to the neo-nazi rally. he did go to "hamilton" and was called out on stage at "hamilton." i think these are two different scenarios. but again i'm proud that he called them out. he should have called out -- >> by name? >> chris, he can get stuck to when the media every little
thing that's said about him the media goes did you call out these people? those people? you haven't built out your administration quick enough. let's give the guy a break. >> i degree with the nitpicking -- >> you've got to give him time. >> but this is different. i agree with you you don't nitpick, he hasn't picked his team yet let him get in office and start doing things and then you can assess what's positive and negative about how he does the job i get that. but we're talking about something different here. every leader of this country, and on congressional levels as well when it comes to hate, when it comes to anyone raising their hand in nazi fashion you get heavy and hard immediately on those people because you don't want them to pick their heads up ever. he didn't do that. >> yeah, but he did do that. now you would say well he didn't do it quick enough. and i'm not in a room, i'm not defending the time line of it but he did condemn them and you have to recognize the guy has been, you know, starting meetings at 5:00 in the morning
going until 9:00 at night interviewing different people to get the americans into the right positions to make america great again as he would say. and so, the guy's time has been consumed, and though he might be sitting at home, you know, watching the news and seeing what happens at "hamilton," and he might see "saturday night live" because he's done with work at 10:00 at night after a full day and a full weekend of interviewing, we do have to cut him some slack. and i agree with you. we don't allow any space for racist, hateful neo-nazi groups. we should condemn them, we should call them out. i'm happy that he did it and we should take it at that, chris. good on you mr. trump, call them out, disavow them. they have no place. i think in -- in our american society. >> early and often and with the hostility that he has for anything else. who deserves more hostility than these groups. let me ask you one more thing. the decision not to go after clinton. do you think that any of his support base should feel duped
that he was so strong on this, this was definitely going to happen, it gave a lot of people confidence that donald trump would be different. he would go after people who they perceived as corrupt largely at donald trump's urging and now he says she's suffered enough, i'm okay with that. should people feel duped? if not, why not? >> i don't know duped. but i think there were a lot of people on the right who if he starts to move as you reported throughout this morning on a number of different positions, they're going to be frustrated. and that frustration will turn into anger. in regard to hillary clinton, chris, i think that it's important to note, there's two different investigations. one is, the e-mails and the private server. director comey from the fbi has investigated that. the department of justice said they're not going to prosecute it. and i think you have to let that dog lie. let it go. i don't think it's appropriate that mr. trump come into the presidency and demand that that investigation be reopened. >> wr was that duffy during the campaign? we had this conversation during
the campaign. you were like -- i'm a former prosecutor -- >> yeah -- >> what happened to that duffy? >> so but hold on a second let me make my point and i'm come back to you chastising me. the clinton foundation is fair game. that investigation is not complete. so i think if there's criminal activity within that organization it has to be called out, and mr. trump has to stand out of the way, and let a special prosecutor investigate it and potentially hold mrs. clinton to account. i think that the american people in regard to the e-mail server, we had a big american jury trial in this election, and mrs. clinton lost. she's been called out for her bad acts with the server exposing american secrets, and at one point we can say is that enough? did we get our pound of flesh on her? i think so. and let's set this one aside. the investigation has already taken place. it's over. let's move forward making america great again. you know this. if you're going to get the big things done, grow our economy
and put those middle americans who've been left behind back to work. you can't have a massive, big fight with mrs. clinton. how do i secure the border? how do i roll back regulation? how do i reform the tax code? how do i fix health care and a lot of those things you need democrats in the senate to get on board to help you out. let's work on those things that help grow people's paychecks, and their opportunity, and i think that's the mandate that mr. trump has. is to help middle america out not to go on this other path. >> all right, sean duffy thank you for being on to make the case as always on "new day." best to you and the family. >> allison. >> a couple of headlines. democrats may want vice president joe biden to leave the party but he does not want to. biden's spokesperson said he is not interested in taking the post of dnc chair. once the vice president leaves the white house in january, but biden will be deeply involved in shaping the future direction of the democratic party. >> two dweex after the election north carolina governor pat
mccrory filing papers demanding a recount alleging widespread election fraud. democratic attorney general roy cooper is ahead by just more than about 6,000 votes. he's already declared victory. considers himself govern governor-elect. ncc law does have a law for recounts. >> for president obama's final medal of freedom ceremony got under way the honorees had a little fun. take a look at this star-studded mannequin challenge. oh, my gosh, this is a good one. >> you can see -- >> ours did not take off in quite the viral way you and i thought it would. but as you can see here tom hanks, bill gates, kareem abdul-jabbar, bruce springsteen. >> diana ross. >> ellen degeneres. >> michael jordan. >> yeah. ellen degeneres almost did not make it into the building before her awar before the ceremony, she tweeted she had to wait to get into the white house because
she forgot her i.d. yes, it was for real. i really can't get in. but as you saw it turned out okay and it was actually quite emotional when she was awarded the medal as it was for so many people. >> big day to get that commendation. highest civilian honor you can get. all right with political tensions still running high, and annoying relatives visiting like dear old aunt pearl but things could get heated at the thanksgiving table. who you going to call? cnn's wolf blitzer, the mobile moderator, of course. >> will restore stability to the conversation. >> this broccoli casserole is so good. >> wrong. >> lucas, don't interrupt your sister. >> plus your moderator can serve as a fact checker. >> i heard that barack hussein obama made it legal to steal things. >> that is completely false. >> then who stole my glasses. >> your glasses are on your forehead. >> surprised that she didn't
look at him and then say, biased. wolf being a good sport in this spoof of the ellen degeneres show. >> that's awesome. >> i would love to have wolf at thanksgiving. >> why haven't we thought of this? wolf can you come to our thanksgiving dinner? that would be so great. >> right? >> moderate through the fights, and the -- >> i like how -- >> turkey talk. >> never breaks character. when we did the anchorman thing, he was the best. it was him, me, cooper, he was the best. >> because maybe he's not in character. that is wolf. >> i'm saying he never breaks it. he's always that way. you see him in the elevator. how you doing today? how am i doing? very well. >> that's not what he said. >> every time. >> donald trump. putting distance between himself and those white supremacists who praise him at that conference. is it enough? what else can he do besides disavow and condemn? should he do? maybe nothing. that conversation is next. ♪ (woman) one year ago today mom started searching for her words.
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president-elect donald trump disavowing a group of neo-nazis who praised and saluted him this past weekend. that's just one of the headlines that came out of his sit-down with "the new york times." we want to bring in krr editor for the atlantic, and former white house political director under ronald reagan jeffrey lord. great to see you. >> good morning. >> let's talk about all the news that was made from mr. trump's sit-down with "the new york times." let's start jeffrey with this
disavowal that he did give against neo-nazis. i'll read what he told "the new york times." mr. trump said i don't want to energize the group. i'm not looking to energize them. i don't want to energize the group. i disavow the group. he went on to say it's not a group i want to energize and if they are energized i want to look into it and find out why. is that far enough, jeffrey? >> yeah, i'll tell you something, "the wall street journal's" jason riley has a great column this morning, and wants to know why during a meeting of 275 extremist nazis, at a meeting in washington, are getting all this attention from the media. and his answer is, that it fits the narrative of the basket of deplorables. but he points out that in places like wisconsin and ohio, counties that voted heavily for president obama turned to donald trump this year. white counties. >> mm-hmm. >> so in other words this is a media narrative because the american -- you've heard me say many times is obsessed with race and has been ever since they
instituted slavery in this country all the way through illegal immigration by skin color. it's race, race, race all the time. >> jeffrey i just want to ask you a question about that. so neo-nazis should be allowed sort of with impunity to have conferences, and have meetings, and say whatever they want, and set up websites, and at what point should the media pay attention to them? >> well, you know, ali, the point is, do we pay equal attention when these things go on on the left? hillary clinton was endorsed by the communist party chairman. >> mm-hmm. >> where was all the attention to that? there was none. there was none. >> uh-huh. >> they have a first amendment right. everybody has a first amendment right. we don't have to pay attention to people who have first amendment rights. >> sure. it's always a judgment call of when you start to pay attention. and i just -- >> i just think this is obsessive. this is way over the top. >> yeah. >> these are nazis for heaven's
sakes. leftists, nazis being national -- >> uh-huh. david what's the answer to that? should we in the media pay attention to them or no? >> aside from the dopey claims of the american left institute i basically agree with what jeffrey lord just said. this is a distraction. the news from that "new york times" interview was donald trump's confirmation that he improperly used the office of presidency to try to enrich himself at his golf course in scotland. every time you are not talking about donald trump's self-enrichment and corruption is a minute you're wasting. there are always be psycho paths to get the press excited. pay attention to the money. >> okay. >> that is the story of the next four years. the organized self-dealing, self-enrichment of the trump administration. >> okay, point taken. let's get to that. let's talk about the other things that came out of "the new york times." here's one of the things that donald trump said about conflict of interest. let's start there. about all of his various business holdings. internationally. and whether or not, when meeting
with, say, developers when he is now president-elect meeting with the japanese prime minister his daughter was there. she has also an international retail business. putting his children on the transition team. ivanka his daughter was on a phone call with the arm tinian president. david, i want to go to you because you didn't have as much time as jeffrey. here's what donald trump said about this. the law is totally on my side. meaning the president cannot have a conflict of interest. >> no, the law does not give us a remedy if the president has a conflict of interest. but of course the president can have conflicts of interest. and this one does. but it is illegal for the president to solicit bribes. it is illegal for the president to use the power of his office to extract gratuities from foreigns. those are clearly illegal things. it is true that we don't have an adequate mechanism to police conflicts of interest. and that there's some separation of powers problem there. but, our first safeguard against conflicts of interest has always
been the assumption of disclosure. disclosure of tax returns for example, every president since watergate has done and this president-elect almost certainly will not do. and the second is the sense of honor, integrity and good sense of people we've elected for the president. most of the presidents have been very honorable people who have gone out of their way to avoid creating conflicts. donald trump, these aren't conflicts by the way, these are abuses of power. a conflict is a temptation. if you take the temptation, accept the temptation, you actually say to a, you know, foreign political politician in the case of nigel farage, police organize a political movement to increase the value of my scottish golf course, that is an abuse of power and of course there's so many others. >> jeffrey, are you comfortable with these? >> well, look, look, this is the, the, you know, the new version of the never trump groups here. that's really all this is. >> it's called integrity in government. >> right, right. so when the kennedy family didn't give up the merchandise mart when john f. kennedy was inaugurated there was a massive
conflict of interest throughout the kennedy administration, particularly when the president of the -- >> what about this, jeffrey, what about in -- in present day -- >> franklin pierce and other things have happened to -- >> this is day -- >> are you confor theable with all of these mixing and matching of american l personal stuff and now government stuff? >> look there's no question that this is going to be unconventional. there's no question. but you know, every time donald trump, david is apparently intent on saying he's committing a conflict of interest and should be what, impeached? this is where this is going. this -- these are the never trumpers. >> yes. >> let's just be clear. >> jeffrey just one second i just want to be clear on something. i understand. just one thing. if the name that were substituted in here were chelsea clinton, if chelsea clinton were on hillary clinton's transition team, if chelsea clinton sat in on a meeting with the prime minister of japan. >> i wouldn't care. >> you wouldn't care? >> i would not care. >> you didn't care about the clinton foundation and cgi? >> okay, well i -- i wrote a
whole column at the american spectator yesterday about this in terms of jared kushner. presidents from the time of john adams on, john adams had his son appointed minister to the netherlands. andrew jackson was his private secretary for eight years, one president after another has used family members inside the white house, if not in the diplomatic corps or the military. there's nothing new here. >> david, go ahead. >> in fairness, i think jeffrey may be either counting on viewers not to know the law or he may not know it. but the laws of the united states are different than they were during the adams administration of the 1920s. and there are anti-nepotism statutes. but the thing here is not to be considered just so much with the conflict of interests. we have actual abuses, and there are prophylactics we can take that will protect this president from the impeachment which he may be driving himself. for example, senator widen of oregon has a statute, a bill that would require the president to disclose his taxes as every
president since gerald ford has done. again, we count on presidents to do it villingly and voluntarily. >> yeah. >> we count on them to be people of honor. if you have a president who is not a person of honor then you need a statute to say the president must release his tax return. if he doesn't the department of the treasury should do it. >> okay. gentlemen we have to leave it there. >> -- president didn't release their tax returns and we survived. >> we hear you. we hear your perspective. interesting times ahead. thank you very much. have a nice -- >> ali -- >> so donald trump's administration is starting to come to the. we're going to dig into why he picked a former detractor, south carolina governor nikki haley, to be ambassador to the u.n. we're going to get the bottom line next. re ready. because they know a deal is only as good as the network it's on. verizon gives you the best network and a lot more. our best deals of the year on top android phones. like the pixel, phone by google and the samsung galaxy s7. $10 per month and no trade-in required. or get an ipad mini 2 for $99.
the next big thing from the trump transition team sources telling cnn he's going to pick south carolina governor nikki haley to be his ambassador to the united nations. an official announcement expected later today. let's get the bottom line on all things trump and politics with cnn political director david chalian. brother chalian, good to see
you. >> good morning. >> the impressive notion here is not that just it's a female governor that he's picking, but, somebody who is a big critic of donald trump during the campaign. the negative is he's picking someone to be u.n. ambassador with no former foreign experience. >> right but let's start on the positive side here. this is his first non-white male pick of an official pick that we've heard, so there's some diversifying of this candidate. but the larger point that i think you highlighted that is important, this is somebody during the campaign he said is an embarrassment to the state that she leads. south carolina, we know she was a vocal critic, and yet this is probably a really welcome sign not just to members of the republican establishment that weren't with trump but also to democrats that were clinton supporters that donald trump is doing something different here that we didn't see much of during the campaign. which is being able to not be a counter puncher, not go after his critics but actually welcome
them in. that is a very welcome sign to a lot of skeptics about donald trump. >> okay and we saw that with mitt romney. coming to >> if that comes to fruition. >> well he came to meet him then. people thought that that was also a sign of sort of mending fences. where are we with rudy versus romney? >> there are clearly different factions inside of trump world. some on the side of rudy has been a loyalist to you, and this would be a good, strong, pick. and then there are the folks who say mitt romney is a grown-up in a room, you need some of those, and this bold stroke bringing in somebody as we think nikki haley was critical. mitt romney was at the leading edge of that effort to try to take down donald trump from inside the party. he's able to bring them in to such a high profile position like secretary of state i think it will earn him a ton of street cred with a broad swath of americans. >> also confirm the notion that what trump says he doesn't always believe and maybe he
believes that about other people, as well. which leads us to his on-the-record conversation with "the new york times." a very different occasion than what we saw with the tv execs who seem to get the backhand from the president-elect. what did you make of the "times" iner is view? >> you remember during the campaign we were looking at that pivot from the nomination season to the general election? that "new york times" interview seems to tell me we're getting that pivot now. as he pivots from candidate to the weight of governing and the office he just seems to be downplaying a lot of his harshest rhetoric. i think that's one thing that's pretty clear. the other thing that i find fascinating in this interview is sort of his education of donald trump on display. for instance, he said he's surprised to learn from general mattis that he was opposed to torture and doesn't think that that is the best method. or that he seemed somewhat surprised to learn that republicans may not all be in favor of his big spending infrastructure proposal.
it seems, if you read that interview with "the new york times," that donald trump is learning a lot about his proposals from the people around him right now. now that his universe has widened. >> and what does that mean, david? what does it mean if he didn't hear the debate years ago between robert muller of the fbi, saying that waterboarding and torture actually did not elicit great confessions, or results. ashtd it was not effective. that debate they were having with the cia. what does it mean he thought climate change was a hoax and now he thinks hey, maybe there's something to it. >> i think what it means, alisyn, and i don't think this will surprise anyone, that donald trump was not steeped in these policy discussions or debates. obviously he's somebody who has always paid attention to the news. we know he likes to watch the shows. we know that he wakes up in the morning and reads the newspapers right away. it's not that he wasn't informed and he's clearly a very smart
guy. but he didn't steep himself, he did not immerse himself in these policy debates of the last let's say the post-9/11 era on the issue of torture. and now, he is surrounded by a wide universe of people who are talking to him about these issues in a way that frankly he clearly stated during the campaign he wasn't all that interested in. he did not want to do a white paper campaign and put out policy proposal after policy proposal. he was on an emotional ride with the american electorate during this campaign and now, he is starting to, it seems, if you read that "new york times" interview, seems to start wrapping his brain around these issues. >> i like that you described his campaign as happening. i see it all proof of very simple notion. the media cannot yield. this administration is going to demand constant fact checking, and opposition. because otherwise you don't know which way it's going to go from day to day. that's just a fact. >> david, thank you. >> thanks. >> happy thanksgiving. >> all right one of the busiest travel days of the year as you
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the thanksgiving getaway is officially under way. millions of people on the road and in the air. so will the weather wreck your plans? cnn's ryan young is live at chicago's o'hare airport. one of the busiest places on earth. what are you seeing, ryan? >> look, that's the big question. how's the weather going to impact things? so far so good. everything is on time. i want to say this after our last live shot one of the tsa workers came over here and said look the lines are not that bad.
all the reinforcements are coming in. i got to tell you after being here last year, looking at the lines now, what a big difference. i mean these lines are so short. and they're moving about five to ten minutes getting people through. so that's been the good news. everybody's been happy. they've been waving at the camera because they're not worried about missing their flight. you're talking about 48.7 million people not only hitting the roads but getting in the air. they're going to be traveling to get ready for that thanksgiving. this is going to be one of the busiest holiday travel periods ever and wednesday is that big day. once again we talked about that weather that we thought was going to have an impact. so far doesn't seem that way. one of the great things about doing this right now is everyone seems to be happy because of the fact the lines are not that long. they're continuing to wave at us. so far so good. planning for what we're going to eat on thanksgiving. >> what's your go-to dish? >> oh, man i love sweet potato sue fly with some cal order greens and turkey. >> strong, strong, strong. i respect that. enjoy your day. let's get the full forecast for
thanksgiving with cnn meteorologist chad myers. what do you have? >> a little snow in the upper midwest. some rain across ohio, indiana, illinois and then some storms into houston. other than that this is a pretty tranquil day to drive. i know driving in the rain is going to be tough across parts of i-70, maybe across 80, 90 and all the way down into louisiana. one ground stop for you, at an airport and that is houston. but it's a local ground stop. it should only be about another hour or so. all planes back in the air as the storm moves by. the west coast will be wet and white depending on your elevation. but other than that, the airports are acting very well today. all of the new york city airports, d.c., all the way down to philadelphia, all green. less than 15 minute delays. the only one we really think will get a little bit longer than that will be chicago. we could see 60 to 90 minute delays there but other than that i think detroit maybe gets to 35 or 45 minutes later on today as the snow changes over to some sleet. they may have to de-ice and then they go over to all rain. thanksgiving forecast, though, i
think snoopy will fly. and santa claus will be there at the end of that parade. 50 degrees. the rain holds off until the parade is over. >> good to know, chad. thank you very much. for the forecast. wait until you hear this story. it is the unbelievable story of survival. a man witnesses an accident. then he pulls over to help. after he gets hit by a car he is knocked off a bridge. he hangs on for dear life but he falls 50 feet into the freezing -- water below and that's just the start of this story. that man joins us live with his incredible survival. and the one thing that kept him fighting for his life. >> steve is like you just told my whole story. hey wait. we have better bubbles. make sparkling water at home and drink 43% more water every day. sodastream. love your water.
it is an understatement to say that our next guest is lucky to be alive. he witnessed an accident. he got out to help. then he was hit by a car. he was thrown off of a bridge. but he hung on with his hands until he couldn't anymore and he slipped. he then plummeted 50 feet into the freezing snake river in idaho. this is just the beginning.
of steven's miraculous survival story. he joins us now. steven, it's amazing that you are alive. how are you feeling? >> well, i hurt right now. i've got a rod in my femur now but it's to be expected. >> steven, let's just talk about this. you were driving -- it was turning into evening and you witnessed a pickup truck slide, >> no, i didn't witness it. what happened was i was driving home, this happened in the morning, about 7:00 a.m. >> oh, okay. >> i was coming across the bridge and all of a sudden traffic was slowing down and started getting over. and then there was this vehicle that was blocking the lane i was in so, you know, i'm first aid certified, cpr certified so my first instinct was to jump out and help them and see if anybody was in there. >> right okay, i want to stop there. no good deed goes unpunished is
the moral of your story. you did that, and i just want to i want to i want to skip over some things because there was a cascading series of event of events. you got out to help. >> mm-hmm. >> then a car behind you was hit. you then were hit your car was hit, and it knocked you off the bridge. is that right? >> well, what happened was is i turn around because i heard the person lay on their brakes, and they slammed into my jeep. >> yeah. >> and when they slammed into my jeep they slammed it into the cement barrier of the bridge, and it shot back and hit me in my left side. >> okay. >> and i think that's the point -- >> that's the point -- >> where my leg and ribs broke. >> okay so your leg broke. you were tossed off the bridge. but you hung on with your hands. what were you thinking at that moment? as you were hanging off the bridge? >> as i was hanging off the bridge, the only thing i could think about was getting home to see my son. you know, because i was just getting off work and that's, you
know, what i did when i got off work you know, i went home, fed him -- >> right. >> slept for a little bit, and you know -- >> yeah. because -- >> then i was up with him. >> he's 7 months old. we have a beautiful picture of you with him. okay, but then you lose the -- the struggle to hang onto the bridge and you fall 50 feet into the freezing snake river. then what happened? >> well, i fall into the snake river, and as i'm falling, you know, i make sure to keep oriented where i'm at. you know, so i don't swim across the river the wrong way. because i was closer to the oregon side of the river. so as i got in the river i kind of got my wits about me, i looked over i was like, okay, that's the way i need to go. i was wearing an army field jacket which immediately inundated with water and got heavy. so as i'm sitting there pulling myself, you know, trying to swim -- >> yeah. >> it's getting heavy. and, you know, i'm kicking with
my legs, but i can't really do much with my left leg because it's broken. i don't know this yet. >> right. so, it's freezing temperature, you're trying to get off your heavy jacket. >> yes. >> and how far did you have to swim? >> it was probably about 100 yards. it felt like a lot longer than that. because you know with the current and everything. but i ended up on an island. >> yeah. and steven -- but i mean but hold on a second at the point where you're hanging on the bridge, you fell into the water, at the point where it was freezing, at the point where your jacket was filling up water, at the point that your leg was broken and it was hard to swim and at the point where you were having to swim was there ever a moment that you thought you might not survive? >> you know, that thought didn't cross my mind just only thing that was running through my mind is, you know what? i'm going to make it home and see my son. >> oh, my gosh. steven. >> that's all i wanted to do. >> that is it it it is incredible. how do you explain that you had
all of these horrible series of events and yet you were rescued off that island and you survived? >> you know, i -- i -- i look at it this way you know, there were many things that could have killed me at that point. but you know, it didn't. it just -- it's going to make me a stronger person. >> yeah. steven thank you. for sharing this incredible story for us. we know you have a go fund me page set up because you now have some medical bills, as well as legal bills connected to your son and a custody battle that you were embroiled in. so we will put that up. i will tweet that out and put it on facebook. steven have a great thanksgiv g thanksgiving. thanks so much for being here. >> i will. go seahawks. >> there you go. chris? >> the guy survives all that, and at the end, he salutes his football team. that's a man. right there. >> all right. so what's the best way to recover from an election result that you don't like?
the victory of donald trump. cnn's rachel crane will tell us why. >> reporter: the union scare subway station in new york is covered with stucky notes. what did you write on the wall? >> listen to each other. >> reporter: subway therapy as it's called by started by an artist who gave commuters sticky notes after the election to express their feelings. >> i feel sad. i feel scared. >> but after the election i woke up and i felt like -- i felt like i -- >> reporter: thousands of sticky notes now cover the because. the station now a destination. >> i actually changed my commute today, to physically come see this installation. >> what did you say? >> that we really value life and diversity and i think that's what actually makes america great. >> reporter: the messages are of hope, defiance, support for immigrants, and vows to make a better future. >> i think that it reinforces
the message that love trumps hate ultimately. ♪ >> we talk about this as an art project and how we get to make art with a lot of other people. we really are talking about love. >> reporter: even new york's governor went to the wall, quoting from the statue of liberty, give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses. >> they took their time to put something on the wall, because it means something to them. and i value all of them. >> reporter: a little note left behind. an insight into everyone who passed by. >> i'm thinking about what i'll say something i hope in a mark moment will speak to somebody really powerfully. >> reporter: the city transit administration is okay with the sticky notes for now. what will happen to them in the future is uncertain. rachel crane, cnn, new york. >> that's a great story. >> it is nice. trying to deal with it
positively. >> yeah. >> hard thing about the governor was he jumped the turnstile to get in the subway station, resisted arrest. very ugly scene. >> wow, we didn't know that. thank you for that info. >> now you do. >> okay. >> have a great thanksgiving. >> you, too. >> okay. thanks so much. time now for "newsroom" with carol costello. >> very thankful for you, carol. >> thank you very much. you guys have a happy turkey day as well. "newsroom" starts now. >> this is cnn breaking news. >> and good morning i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me. the donald trump administration taking shape this morning just minutes ago the trump team announcing that south carolina governor nikki haley will be formally nominated to serve as u.s. ambassador to the united nations. haley, you might recall, remained critical of mr. trump even after he clinched their partiaries nomination. sara murray is here with more on