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happening now, breaking news. cabinet of critics. donald trump names two new picks for his administration, including nikki haley as ambassador to the united nations. the south carolina governor critical of trump during the primaries, now poised for a top post. will trump tap mitt romney for secretary of state? recount royal. new questions about the election outcome as computer scientists urge the clinton campaign to challenge the results. do they have evidence that vote totals were manipulated in three key states? records on the road. 1 million more americans are travel thing year over the thanksgiving holiday, adding to highway and airport congestion. which parts of the country will
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see weather making things worse? table too far. president obama pardons two turkeys in a long-time white house tradition. these birds, named tater and tot, bound for a wonderful lot at virginia tech. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and and around the world. wolf blitzer is off today. i'm brianna keilar. you're in "the situation room." this is cnn breaking news. >> we are following breaking news tonight. president-elect donald trump is adding the first women to his cabinet. he's named south carolina governor nikki haley to be u.s. ambassador to the u.n. her selection is notable not only because she lacks foreign policy experience, but because she supported marco rubio during the primary campaign and was very critical of donald trump. at one point he attacked her on twitter saying that south carolina was embarrassed by
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haley. trump named betsy devos as education secretary. she promoted common core standardized testing. she now says she's not a supporter of common core. and we're following the thanksgiving travel rush. it's in full swing tonight across the u.s. you have tens of millions of americans who are going to be on the road in the air over this holiday in record numbers. the tsa says it's prepared, having added more than 3,000 full-time officers since the summer. we're covering all that and more this hour, with our guests, including congressman hakim jeff ris and our correspondents are standing by. let's begin with the new trump appointme appointments. jason carroll is in palm beach, florida. nikki haley supported marco rubio in the primary campaign. this is why her appointment is so north worthy, as well as the
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fact she was so critical of donald trump. >> reporter: absolutely. she was not known to pull any punches when it came to criticizing donald trump. but that was then, this is now. and now she is all team trump. president-elect donald trump is bolstering his cabinet by turning to a one-time critic. >> when a bully hits you, you hit that bully right back. >> reporter: trump announcing nikki haley as his choice to serve as u.s. ambassador to the united nations. haley, a daughter of indian immigra immigrants, became the first woman and first woman of color elected of the palmetto state. she has no significant foreign policy experience. she endorsed marco rubio during the gop primary, and was a vocal trump critic during the campaign. >> i will not stop until we fight a man that chooses not to disavow the kkk, that is not a part of our party and not who we
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want as president. >> reporter: trump naming betsy devos, a top gop donor and proponent of school choice, calling her a brilliant and passionate educatione advocate. she was also critical of trump. trump pledged throughout the campaign to do away with the common core education standards, to huge cheers. >> and we are going to end common core. education is going to be brought local. >> reporter: devos served on the board of an education board led by jeb bush that supports common core, but she says i am not a supporter, period. it got turned into a federalized boondoggle. but it is the selection of haley that raises the question, could another trump rival be next? transition sources tell cnn mitt romney is a leading contender for secretary of state. >> we had a far-reaching
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conversation with regards to the various theaters in the world where there are interests of the united states of real significance. >> reporter: in 2012 -- >> mr. trump's bombast is alarming our allies. >> reporter: some trump loyalists are lambasting a potential romney pick. >> political infighting is part of the game, but when you go after a person who is the nominee of your party, who has been duley nominated by the voters, and then you are savaging the voters, not just donald trump. >> i can think of 20 other people who would be more valerie compatible with the trump vision of foreign policy. >> reporter: trump announcing that he's considering dr. ben carson for hud secretary, and carson saying, an announcement is forthcoming about his role
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helping to make america great again. trump is also showing an openness to reconsider core positions from the campaign. indicating in an interview with "the new york times" on tuesday that general james mattis, a contender for defense secretary, helped change his mind about waterboarding. >> he said, i've never found it to be useful. he said, i've always found, give me a pack of sick let cigarett couple of beers and i do better with that than torture. >> reporter: now comes the question is what will happen and the big announcement of secretary of state. we are hearing that mitt romney thinking about this position and perhaps we'll hear something after the holiday. president-elect trump has released a thanksgiving video message. correspondent jim acosta has
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details. jim, it's striking how much he's emphasizing unity. >> reporter: absolutely. typically these kinds of videos coming from politicians don't work, but this comes at a very important time for this president-elect, because donald trump in this video -- >> we've just finished a long and bruising political campaign. emotions are raw and tensions just don't heal overnight. it doesn't go quickly, unfortunately. but we have before us the chance now to make history together, to bring real change to washington, real safety to our cities, and real prosperity to our communities, including our inner cities. so important to me and so important to our country. but to succeed, we must enlist the effort of our entire nation. this historic political campaign is now over. but now begins a great national
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campaign to rebuild our country and restore the full promise of america for all of our people. >> reporter: brianna, that video comes along with the news that we've had today with nikki haley being tapped to go to the united nations. i talked to a trump transition source earlier today, who said that they hope the selection of nikki haley to go to the united nations is a pressure reliever that might help americans deal with this tough election battle over the holiday weekend, because it might reassure americans to see donald trump pick such a harsh critic to serve in his administration. of course, the other shoe that we're waiting to see drop is potentially going to happen after the holiday weekend. that is the big question as to whether or not donald trump will actually tap and mitt romney will accept that job for secretary of state, as jason was just saying a few moments ago. the former governor of massachusetts is seriously considering it, talking to family members about it. of course, this would also send
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another big message to the country that trump, despite that harsh campaign, is willing to listen to outsiders and willing to reach outside of his comfort zone to bring people into this administration that will reassure americans all over the country. >> that's a selection that would be jaw dropping. jim acosta, thank you. let's get more with this from democratic congressman hakim jefferies of new york. thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> kellyanne conway confirmed to "the wall street journal" that donald trump jr. met with russian diplomats to discussion syria. and his daughter was on a phone call with the president of argentina. donald trump himself has continued to take meetings with business partners. what is your reaction to this? >> it's understandable he was going to take advice and counsel from his children throughout the duration of the campaign. now that he's the
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president-elect, there's a different set of standards, because he indicated he's going the relinquish control of his massive business empire and hand the keys to that empire over to his children. if, in fact, that is going to be the case, they're going to have to divorce themselves from discussing the business of the people so they can focus solely on the business of the trump empire. that doesn't seem to have happened in as smooth a way as should occur. and that's troubles, because we want a president who is going to be focused on getting things done on behalf of the american people, and not focused on what's happening with his business empire. and to the extent that there is still a co-mingling of communications as it relates to his children, their involvement with the real estate business, their involvement with what's happening with the people of the united states of america, that's problematic. >> do you think part of it is that americans are just primed for this? and i ask this, because having covered hillary clinton, you know, she didn't really provide
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that firewall between clinton foundation donors and the state department that she promised. and while i'll certainly say the practices of the foundation have been reviewed by outsiders as being sound and obviously the trump foundation has not, the clinton foundation, while also a platform for the clintons is also a charitable foundation, and we're talking about donald trump's commercial enterprise, but aren't people primed in a way to accept some of this? >> well, i certainly hope not. this issue was overly litigated throughout the campaign, and we heard a lot from the trump folks about the conflicts of interests that existed and whether she was going to divorce the foundation from her presidency. now that the tables have been turned, i'm hopeful we'll hear the same level of concern from people in the republican party. >> it was clear that chelsea clinton would be involved. it's not like she was going to have someone else deal with some
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of the issues, keeping in mind this is a charitable foundation, but it's also a platform for the family. she wasn't going to do that. so with that in mind, and just sort of that normalization of that, shouldn't people just -- it seems like they're getting used to it, aren't they? >> well, we don't want these things to become the new normal. there were a lot of extraordinary issues and events that took place during the campaign. but all of us, democrats, republicans, people on the left and right, should get back to a situation where a focus is on the highest level of integritiry in terms of the government moving forward. we want donald trump, our soon-to-be president, to make decisions on housing policy, on transportation and infrastructure, on foreign policy, on the merits of the issue. not on what may or may not be good for the business empire that's being run by his children. so i do think it's relevant and an issue for all of us in congress and beyond to be concerned about.
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i'm hopeful that donald trump will see that a clear separation is in the best interest of everyone involved. >> yeah. and i want to ask you about some of these announcements that we're hearing and what your perspective as a democrat is. he's announced nikki haley, governor of south carolina, as u.n. ambassador. mitt romney is under serious consideration to be secretary of state. these are people that he really did not see eye to eye with. are you encouraged by the fact that he seems to be considering and picking people that have different points of view than him if >> well, i think what actually troubles me, and let me say about nikki haley, she acquitted herself incredibly well around the whole debate of the confederate flag in south carolina and led the charge to bring it down. but this is a very difficult and complicated world we. we've got a crisis in syria. isis wants to strike us at any particular point in time.
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we haven't solved the conflict between the palestinians and israelis. we have north korean aggression. we have the russian bear that continues to lurk and vladamir putin who wants to reconstitute the soviet empire. and now we have a president-elect who has no foreign policy experience. we have a nominee to be u.n. ambassador, governor haley, who has no foreign policy experience. we have the leading candidate for secretary of state, mitt romney, who has no foreign policy experience. this should be troubling. i don't expect that he's going to nominate democrats or people left of center, people who hillary clinton would have nominated. but it does seem to me, particularly given his lack of experience in the foreign policy realm, that he should be surrounding himself with individuals who have worked in their professional capacity in this arena. that to me is the most troubling fact. >> what about dr. ben carson? because it appears that he's under consideration for -- we know he's under consideration to be hud secretary, housing and
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urban development. he says he can contribute to "making our inner cities great for everyone." do you believe he has the experience for that role? >> not at all. and i don't think dr. ben carson is really a serious choice for the hud secretary, which is an agency of incredible importance, particularly in our inner city communities where we have a host of challenges. the housing stock, as it relates to public housing developments across the country and cities like chicago, new york, los angeles, washington, d.c., need a tremendous amount of work. we need visionary leadership and someone with experience in that area. and i don't want donald trump to nominate ben carson simply because ben carson, once he dropped out of the race, was supportive of donald trump's candidacy and he feels he needs to diversify the cabinet and appoint an african-american. go out and find a qualified african-american who has experience in the housing field, and that's something that will be far more acceptable. because at the end of the day,
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we're back with congressman jefferies of new york. we want to talk to him about some new questions surrounding the election vote tally, where hillary clinton's total may have been low.
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perhaps oddly low. he's going to stick around us as we get details from tom foreman. tom, there are suggestions that this could have cost hillary clinton the election. but how real is this? >> reporter: well, if we had a lot more data, if we had a lot more information, we could get it beyond a conspiracy theory. but that's what it seems to be, tailor made for democrats who are unhappy about the election. in a nutshell, it seems something happened with the electronic voting in three states and maybe it cost hillary clinton the white house. in wisconsin, with almost 3 million votes cast, donald trump edged hillary clinton by less than 28,000. in pennsylvania, out of almost 6 million votes, his advantage was 60,000. and the count in michigan still remains too close for cnn to call the race. but now some political activists say in counties using electronic voting, hillary clinton appears to have mysteriously
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underperformed, compared to areas with paper ballots, by as much as 7% according to what they told top clinton aides in a call urging an official review. they've not released analysis or provided proof of hacking, but that margin could have tipped wisconsin and if the others went her way too, she would have won. so who is leading the charge? john bonafast is a democratic activist who ran for office a few years ago. sthz is a story of where the democratic party needs to be. >> reporter: he's a big proponent of voting rights and tried to get president bush impeached over the iraq war. >> the united states house of representatives has a constitutional duty to investigate fully and comprehensively. >> reporter: but at the university of michigan, the chief computer scientist behind the discovery of these alleged voting oddties seems to be on a different page. he's concerned about the risk of american elections being hacked. he talked am it on c-span before
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this vote. >> a realistic attack on the election is probably going to be honing in on whichever states have the closest margins. >> reporter: but he wants an investigation because he thinks any questions about voting security ought to be addressed. he's posted online "more of this year's deviations from preelection polls the result of a cyber attack? probably not. i believe the polls were systematically wrong." as for election officials, some went into the balloting pretty confident. >> i could set one of these machines in the middle of red square in moscow and the russians could hack into it. >> reporter: they don't want to say more right now in case there is legal action. the clinton campaign has yet to file a challenge.
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jill stein's campaign is pushing towards something. meanwhile, clinton's lead over trump in the popular vote keeps growing. new numbers out today put her more than 2 million votes ahead. we've got a number a little lower than that. but it's still the most ever by a candidate who lost the electoral vote. so you can see brianna where so many democrats look at these findings and say maybe there's something there. >> certainly. and they're looking for that. they certainly are not happy with the outcome of the election. cnn's tom foreman, thank you so much. i want to talk now withjefferie. you heard the report, congressman. we heard some people say get rid of the electoral college. and here we have some that are questioning the legitimacy of the outcome here. does this erode american's trust in the process or is this because their trust is eroded?
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>> well, i think there's been a tremendous amount of erosion of trust in the electoral process. and to tell you the truth, the president-elect had a lot to do with it because he spent the last nine months talking about the fact that this is a rigged election, and that the whole system is working against the american people. so he, of course, bears some responsibility in terms of where we're at right now. now, there are two things at issue. one, the beauty of american democracy is there's always been a smooth transition of power and we want to see that take place between president barack obama and his administration and the incoming administration of donald trump. but the functioning of american democracy depends on the integrity of the electoral process. if there are legitimate claims of concern that have been raised, i would encourage the clinton campaign to look into it and take any necessary measures to have the american people be able to have the confidence that the electoral results that were reported on november 8th, on november 9th are actually accurate.
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i think that's incredibly important, particularly in the context where hillary clinton won the popular vote, where more americans came out to support her on election day than donald trump, where he's only the president-elect because of the aberration of the electoral college. where we had an extraordinary intervention 11 days out from the campaign from the fbi director who came in, dropped a bomb on hillary clinton. no evidence of wrongdoing. hid behind a desk in a building once occupied by j. edgar hoover. about a week later came out and said, i was wrong. >> you think the electoral college should be gone? >> well, i think that we need to look at the electoral college and determine whether it's an outdated system. it would require a constitutional amendment. but the president-elect that no
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democracy to say we're going to change -- >> nothing would be retro active. it would require 2/3 of the vote in the house and the senate. and 75% of the states, as you know, would have to ratify that constitutional amendment in order to take effect. so that's going to be a long, extended robust process. but it is legitimate to ask the question, should we be electing the leader of the free world
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through an electoral college process that may itself be outdated, in a system where we value one person, one vote. that is not -- >> would you say the same if donald trump had won the popular vote, even by this huge margin, and the electoral college elected hillary clinton, honestly, would you say the same thing? >> listen, i certainly think that democrats need to be consistent with this particular position, and when i was in the new york state legislature, i supported the effort to establish a national popular vote, state legislature by state legislature. so this is a position i had before this most recent debacle, following where george bush lost the popular vote and won the electoral college. >> but you would say that you should really consider donald trump should be president if hillary clinton, by electoral votes, was deemed the
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president-elect? >> no, no. i'm saying that donald trump got to 270, exceeded that threshold, and by our current system, he is the president-elect. that is legitimate. assuming no credible allegations of voter fraud arise. but prospectively as we think about the system, it's a legitimate conversation for us to have about the electoral college and its continues relevance. but that's going to be a bipartisan conversation, and there's no way to actually overturn it without blue states and red states, states dominated by democrats and republicans, to come together and say it's time to move beyond the electoral college. it doesn't undermine the legitimacy of donald trump's presidency. again, he himself questioned the value of the electoral college four years ago. i'm just saying it's a reasonable debate for us to have as we move forward. >> he did continue to question it recently, as well. congressman, thank you for being
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breaking news tonight. president-elect donald trump has picked south carolina governor nikki haley to be the next u.s. ambassador to the united nations. let's talk about with our political experts. this is why some people are surprised by this. here's what donald trump said about nikki haley at one point. the people of south carolina are embarrassed by nikki haley. she responded, donald trump, bless your heart, which that is stereo typically what southerners say before they say something mean about you. and the team of rivals, some have said, this is surprising considering donald trump is notoriously thin skinned. >> i think all rivals are not created equal. she was actually very respectful with the way she went at donald trump. she was never over the top. >> compared to mitt romney. >> that's right. her criticism was more gentle, where mitt romney wasn't. that would be more of a signal.
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because their views are so different of what donald trump is looking at in terms of his cabinet. >> was she more diplomatic? so ron, donald trump, clearly through this he's trying to, and you're hearing from the republican establishment, they feel somewhat comforted by some of these selections. what about mitt romney and that, as well? how far does that go to comforting them? >> that's a big bridge. first of all, if donald trump stuck with the republican elected officials and established leaders who supported him during the campaign, he could not fill up the seats in the roosevelt room. he had less institutional support from the individuals in the republican party than any nominee probably ever. so just to fill out the government, he has to reach beyond his circle. and he has done that i think in nikki haley. his education secretary is someone we might have seen from jeb bush. mitt romney is a big bridge, because romney's criticism of
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trump was as pointed as we've ever heard. but maybe even more importantly, it's not clear that they're on the same page of foreign policy. mitt romney's critique was that the u.s. was being too soft on russia. and donald trump is looking for another reset with russia. so there is a lot of space between them that makes that very difficult. the attractive part is he might be able to hear some of the breach between donald trump and the foreign policy establishment, which has been the most critical part of the republican infrastructure about his candidacy. >> what are you thinking as you see these latest appointments? >> i'm frank lly thrilled. i've been very critical of his first three appointments. i'm thrilled to see governor haley and of betsy devos.
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nikki haley is the daughter of indian immigrants, the youngest person ever elected governor in south carolina. and yeah, you know, she may not be an expert in foreign policy. she'll have a very good team behind her of professionals. i think she has the skills. i think she's very smart. she can learn quickly. she's also very diplomatic and well liked and respected. we saw her incredible leadership, moral leadership and courage on issues like the confederate flag in south carolina. not an easy issue to take on in the state of south carolina. and as far as betsy devos, she really does reach out to republican establishment and all types of republicans because she's qualified. both of them were not donald trump supporters. so he's showing a willingness going outside of his comfort zone of absolute loyalists. i'm just happy that two women, who are not perceived as jerks, white supremists, and don't
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peddle in fake news of alt-right made-up stuff. so as far as i'm concerned, they're great. >> that is a compliment from anna navaro, when it comes to donald trump. i'm going to remember this moment. >> no, when it comes to nikki haley and betsy devos. >> still, it's a compliment to them. >> if somebody like anna are happy, that means there are a lot of the grassroot supporters of donald trump who are not happy about some of these picks, in particularly betsy devos, a lot of people complaining she's tied to these pro-common core groups. >> and the fact that he's back peddled on some of these issues, what about his grassroots supporters? >> absolutely. we're seeing donald trump particularly on the issue of investigating or prosecuting hillary clinton, you know, going back on that saying it's time for the nation to heal.
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well, that may be muse toic to ears of a lot of americans, there's a lot of donald trump supporters that were chanting "lock her up" as donald trump goaded her on who are going to be very disappointed. we saw alex jones, a prominent trump supporter and conspiracy theorist, twisting himself into a pretzel, trying to find donald trump is not taking this off the table. but clearly we're seeing that donald trump is a political chameleon of sorts. >> you all are going to stay with me. we have much more to talk about. conflicts of interest, potential ethical issues. we'll discuss that after a break. it's been touring the country telling folks about our heart healthy idaho potatoes, america's favorite potatoes, and donating to local charities along the way. but now it's finally back home where it belongs. aw man.
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we're following breaking news. president-elect donald trump has released a thanksgiving video message tonight, stressing unity. he talks about raw emotion and tension in the wake of what he calls the bruising presidential campaign. and he calls on the nation to work together to bring historic change to washington and the country. we're back now with our panel. i want to start with you, anna navaro, to talk about conflicts of interest and donald trump. it strikes me when i was sort of thinking of the list today, you've got a recent $25 million lawsuit in a fraud case, not releasing taxes, that's old. you have the trump foundation admitting self-dealing, which is using foundation money,
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basically not for charitable purposes, basically for self-dealing. and then you have his children, who are going to be managing his business enterprises, from which he really can't divorce himself from, meeting with world leaders. how does that even work? how does that even not create some massive distraction in his administration? >> i think it creates a massive political problem, not just for donald trump but also for republicans. republicans have honed in on the issue of conflict of interest with hillary clinton for years now. it has been something that we have hammered away over and over again, and which i think was very hurtful to hillary clinton. there was a blurry lines between the clinton philanthropic, political and business world and there was a lot of profit made. donald trump has to face the same exact scrutiny, if not tougher. he is president of the united states. she was secretary of state of the united states, and a candidate. and i think republicans are going to have a lot of egg on
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their face if they don't investigate, and they're not tough with donald trump as they were with hillary clinton, the candidate. i also think that it's going to be a steady drip, drip, drip, that the american public is not going to like. we've already seen a steady drip, drip, drip in the last two weeks and he's only been president-elect for the last two weeks. you had ivanka state in with the prime minister of japan and the president of argentina called with an issue of a building in argentina. we've seen the hawking of the trump hotel in washington to foreign delegates. >> people are looking for an opportunity too. jeremy, i want to get you all in with a comment here. anna says he needs to face the same kind of scrutiny. will he? will his supporters be okay with this?
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>> yeah, it certainly is an important question. donald trump has yet to have to actually answer to this report from "the washington post" regarding the disclosure his foundation made to the irs. donald trump throughout the campaign insisted he followed the letter of the law and clearly his foundation did not. and "the new york times" meeting he had yesterday, he said he's already started in fact to reduce his involvement in his company and hand it over to his kids. but his kids are still very involved in his transition efforts. they were key advisers in his campaign. that's going to be perhaps the most difficult part for him to separate himself from. these are people not only his children but who he relied on for advice and counsel and who were movers and shakers in his campaign. >> imagine the analogous situation with hillary clinton,
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chelsea clinton being on phone calls. easy to imagine we'd be hearing from jason chaffetz and other congressional republicans. i would submit they are not doing donald trump any favors by sweeping this under the rug. while sit a drumbeat now, if it is not checked, the odds are high that down the road there will be a bigger problem than we're seeing today and they're not doing any favors to him for allowing him to walk down this road. >> i talked to peter king earlier. he was backing up donald trump. yet i played him his sound bite from hillary clinton where he said even the appearance of a conflict of interest raises questions about personal judgment. >> they are in sort of an impossible situation, because short of selling off his business and putting that in a blind trust, and he's not going to do that, they're going to have to sort of create something to shelter him from this. >> how does he do that if he's
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talking to his kids all the time? >> and the appearance of impropriety. >> jackie, really appreciate it. ron, jeremy, anna, you all have a wonderful thanksgiving. just ahead -- >> you too. >> i hope you have a wonderful thanksgiving, but your holiday travel might be harder this year, what you are on the road or in the air. plus, how the weather is going to impact all of it. we'll tell you next. jack be nimble, jack be quick, jack knocked over a candlestick onto the shag carpeting... ...and his pants ignited into flames, causing him to stop, drop and roll. luckily jack recently had geico help him with renters insurance. because all his belongings went up in flames. jack got full replacement and now has new pants he ordered from banana republic. visit geico.com and see how affordable renters insurance can be. durindiscover why fordnd event, is america's best-selling brand. ♪i'm on top of the world, hey! with the most 5-star ratings... award-winning value...
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for many americans the thanksgiving holiday means travel and this year more of you are doing it. a travel update coming and also a weather update. i want to begin with rene marsh
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outside of reagan airport. >> things are looking good. people are moving through this particular airport. the big talker is really about volume today. but the true test doesn't happen until sunday. that is when we are expecting lots of people. and all eyes will be on tsa to make sure that they can actually get the passengers through the check point and on the flights on time. millions of people across the country are on the move during the besidest travel period of the year. on the 405 in los angeles it was the mother of all traffic jams tuesday night. miles and miles of gridlock for driver wos had hoped to beat the rush. on the capital beltway outside d.c. traffic was backed up nearly 10 miles after a crash. most people will drive to their thanksgiving destination. more than 43 million according to aaa. the best way to avoid the worst
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gridlock? drive on thanksgiving day and head home any day but sunday. saturday or monday are much lighter. and in the meantime airports are seeing a record number of fliers. 27 million are expected to take to the skies. inside delta airlines this week the operations team monitors the weather and every flight in the air. >> a laserlike focus on the completion factor and making sure we get people where they need to be for the holidays. >> reporter: and the head of tsa says they are ready. >> we brought on just shy of 1400 knew transportation security officer this is summer. and converted a bunch to full-time and added ooblt 50 or 60 k nines. >> temporary power outages caused long lines and delay this is morning at one airport.
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overall for most it's been a smooth ride so far. >> i was expecting a lot of lines and just a lot of confusion but everything was really smooth this morning. >> but with 1 million more people traveling this year compared to last, it is still a good idea to get to the airport two hours before your flight. >> now remember, if you are on a line with a working k-9 you can keep your shoes and your coat on and you can leave the liquids in the bag. i can tell you gas prices are a lot cheaper. the second cheapest in nearly a decade. and prices for a flight are pretty low. so that explain this is large volume that we've been talking about as far as travelers this thanksgiving. >> that's some good news. thank you so much. happy thanksgiving to you renee. and you know the wild card for many travelers is going to be weather. for more on that let's bring in jennifer gray. our cnn meteorologist. you are looking at the trouble
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spots. so where are you checking out? >> well we've seen the longest delays really in the mid west. chicago, detroit. because of the rain and snow. also quite a few wind delays today through new york's laguardia. those will continue throughout the evening. they have also been deicing in salt lake city and that's caused delays as well. >> renee says if you are smart you are heading out tomorrow. that is where the money is. so what does that look like for people on the road. there are still going to be a lot of them? >> conditions look overall great. we are going to have a couple of trouble spots though. especially in the northeast. i-90, up state new york could have a little slick spots, snow and rain mixed in. that is going to clear out throughout the day. the other trouble spot is pacific northwest. rain through seattle in portland and could have some trouble getting through the passes. we are going to have snow in higher elevations. >> and on sunday, the huge
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travel day. what are you seeing for folks? >> especially on sunday, overall again looks great. believe it or not the trouble spot is actually going to be the west coast. quite a bit of rain across california. even mountain know in the rockies. but elsewhere things look pretty good. maybe a little snow in northern new england brianna. >> wait till monday i say. enjoy your long weekend. that is my advice. jennifer gray. thank you so much. interest an iowa farm to the white house and a presidential pardon. two turkeys saved today by obama in a presidential pardon in a ceremonial tradition going back deca decades. >> they weren't so lucky. didn't get to ride their grave train to freedom. met their faith with courage and sacrifice, and proved they weren't chicken.
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[ baby crying ] >> oh it's not that bad now. come on. [ laughter ] >> a very happy thanksgiving to you. with a little help from my friend. he's so funny. i love him. erin burnett starts right now anchored by jim sciutto. "outfront" next. breaking news. president elect trump calling for national unity tonight, this as he names the first two women for top level positions. plus trump stepping away from promises on obamacare, climate change and to lock her up. what are trump loyalists saying about the flip-flops? and charges that the election results in some big states could have been hacked. will clinton demand a recount. let's go "outfront." and good evening. and hp thanksgiving i'm jim sciutto in for erin burn

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