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national parks official and she told me this set of fires was human caused. i pressed her several times on whether that means this was arson. she would not go there. she said it is human caused and under investigation, but a few minutes later, she did tell me, we would love to catch this person. so maybe while they're not ready to draw the line directly yet to arson, they seem to be getting pretty close to that. >> brian todd, thanks. >> guess who's coming to dinner. president elect trump has dinner with reince priebus and mitt romney. what's on the menu? donald trump gets what appears to be a big win, a deal with carrier that will keep nearly 1,000 factory jobs in indiana. and the dinner was wrapped.
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it's at the trump international hotel. listen to what a gracious romney had to say. >> i had a wonderful evening with president elect trump. we had another discussion about affairs throughout the world, and these discussions i've had with him have been enlightening and interesting, and engaging. i've enjoyed them very, very much. i was also very impressed by the remarks he made on his victory night. by the way, it's not easy winning. i know that myself. he did something i tried to do, and was unsuccessful in accomplishing. he won the general election, and he continues with a message of inclusion of bringing people together, and his vision to something which obviously is connected with the american people in a very powerful way. >> and we asked whether romney will be his secretary of state.
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the answer? quote, well, we're going to see what happens. there's a lot to get to. >> mark preston and dana bash here. mark, new reporting tonight on donald trump delivering his campaign promises and also on what happened at trump tower. >> let's start indiana. first, donald trump made a big deal about keeping manufacturing jobs here in the united states. it's something that helped have him win. we saw it from united technologies today which is the parent company of carrier. they put out a tweet that said we are pleased to have reached with the president elect donald trump and mike pence to keep close to 1,000 jobs in indiana. there were 14 00 jobs on the block in indianapolis. another 700 in a town nearby. carrier, about a year ago said they were going to move the jobs and shut the plants down. but we're seeing right now that
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at least 1,000 of those jobs are going to stay. >> you said it's close to 1,000? >> i'm sorry. close to 1,000 j but there are 2100 jobs that were on the line. we still don't know what the deal is, and we don't know what's going to happen to those other jobs, but we do know that united technologies is also a very big defense contractor. they get about $5.6 billion a year from u.s. taxpayers. you have to wonder if that was part of the deal. >> dana, before you weigh in, here's what donald trump said at a rally last april. >> they're going to call me and they're going to say, mr. president, carrier has decided to stay in indiana. thank you, sir. and by the way, 100%. okay? 100. it's not like we have an 80 % chance of keeping them or a 95%. 100%. >> yeah. so dana, we don't know the
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details. it wasn't 100% of the jobs, but 50% of the jobs. >> right. >> that's pretty symbolic. >> it's better than 0%. >> given he's not even in the white house yet. >> no question about it. look, as you all said, we don't know what the stick was to get this carrot, but what we do know is that if carrier itself sent this tweet out, it's very telling. and that donald trump and mike pence, we should say, who is still the governor of indiana are going to go there later this week and have a rally and talk about this. this is and was a very, very big deal. politically this announcement happened right before the indiana primary. remember, the indiana primary was the one that actually put donald trump over the top. it made him the effective nominee for the republican
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presidential nominee, rather, and ted cruz dropped out. the carrier situation happened, like, in the days before that primary. so this is something that has been near and dear to donald trump's heart because of that. of the fact that jobs and jobs going overseas had been one of his top issues, and, of course, because his vice president is the governor of indiana. >> and mark, let's talk about this last episode in the latest episode of the apprentice, mitt romney and donald trump meet for dinner. there he is with reince priebus at the trump hotel and tower. shocking he would pick that restaurant. >> keep it in the family. first of all, jim acosta was in the restaurant, and witnessed them having a dinner. it probably was a little unsettling i think for the participan participants. from what i understand, people
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in the restaurant, it was very cordial. there was a lot of laughing going on, and what i think was very telling is what mitt romney said, and we showed the clip at the very top, what he said about donald trump when he said, by the way, it's not easy winning. i know that myself. he did something i tried to do and was unsuccessful in accomplishing. he won the general election. why this is important is because there was a lot of talk within trump circles that mitt romney had to apologize if he was going to become secretary of state for all the bad things he had said about donald trump. now, there's no way that mitt romney is going to come out and apologize in a way that i think -- >> that was an apology in a sense? >> as someone in the transition orbit told me, this is the beginning of the mea culpa of mitt romney, and he's saying all the right things. >> a lot of people say bad
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things about donald trump. why does mitt romney have to apologize? >> well, if we went back and reracked his tapes, he was -- >> let's play some of it. here it is. >> donald trump is a phony, a fraud. >> mitt was a disaster as a candidate. >> he's playing the members of the america for suckers. he gets a free ride to the white house and all we get a is lousy hat. >> romney choekd like a dog. >> his promises are worthless. >> i have a lot of friends. i have a lot of friends. by the way, mitt romney is not one of them. >> go ahead, mark. >> this is how dana and i usually talk to each other when we're working together in washington d.c. >> all with love. >> the difference is, and let me pass it to dana. mitt romney gave a speech where
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he went to tear down donald trump and tried to run a third party candidate against hip. >> dana, if we play some of chris christie's remarks, or even some of his campaign manager's. >> that's right, on your show. >> on this show. not nice things to say about donald trump. and i don't understand why mitt romney needs to apologize. i know he gave a specific speech, and they don't need to apologize. what gives here? >> i think mark said it right. they were making comments in the heat of battle because they were representing other candidates in chris christie's case, he was representing himself. he was the opponent of donald trump. mitt romney made an effort, a concerted effort, to write the speech which we remember realtime, he wrote it himself, and to announce to the world in very, very exkucruciating detai
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but about the core about who donald trump is and the reason he shouldn't be president. that's different from the others, and by the way, this is the most recent republican nominee making that statement. it was a really monumental time. so that's the reason why. now, having said that, i agree with mark 100%. i thought the most telling part of mitt romney's remarks, first of all that he came out to make remarks to reporters at all, and made an effort to say winning is not easy, and i couldn't do it and he did it. applause to him. i was talking to somebody going into this dinner saying okay, what is donald trump really thinking the whole time, and this is somebody who is close to him. said he's thinking this guy is never going to be loyal to me. whether or not that's true, who knows. maybe this was a complete turn around in this dinner and reince
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priebus who was there and is the incoming white house chief of staff has been one of the biggest proponents of mitt romney as secretary of state. it would certainly not be the biggest surprise if donald trump decided after this dinner, you know what? i'm in. >> how much loyalty is there in politics anyway. donald trump also criticized mitt romney when mitt romney was running as well. if you listen to the remarks from just this season in the campaign trail, he was critical of mitt romney as well this season. i want to bring in someone who was a senior advisory on the romney campaign. you know mitt romney very well. these two men could in the have been more different. they both have business success in common. do you think he will be the secretary of state in the trump administration? >> i have no idea other than what i read and what i see on your air. all i can say is that if donald trump wants to pick the best people for his cabinet, and it
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seems like that's what he's doing, his criteria seems to be he's just looking for the best people, mitt romney would be a great choice. i have no inside knowledge to what anybody is thinking. i'm just reporting on what i know from what i read. but mitt romney is a turn around artist. he could do a lot of good at the state department and turn that organization around and be a good secretary of state. i have no idea if they can get in the same page as far as being a voice and face for donald trump's foreign policy. it's a guide sign they're talking and the party is coming together. i continue to believe that this is good for the party and good for the country that these two men are talking. >> kevin, do you agree with dana and mark that mitt romney's criticism was above and beyond everyone else's criticism and he needed to apologize to donald trump? >> i think this was a very heetd last year, and the republican
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party frayed in a lot of ways. there were things said between candidates that i haven't heard in 20 years of politics. >> that's putting it lightly. >> some of it was donald trump saying it to other people. he got very personal with people, and other people got personal back with him. everybody has now come together. we have a unified republican government for the first time in years. this is a good sign. >> does romney want this job? >> i have no idea. i would think that he would strongly consider anything he was offered, but i have no idea whether or not he would ultimately take it. >> kevin, dana, mark, thank you. i appreciate it. >> thanks, don. when we come back, donald trump is filling his cabinet, but what do his choices tell us about what to expect for the next four years? this one is from channel islands national park. coronado. saguaro. you'll see there's one that's an eagle. my number one goal is getting more funds out to parks because some animals and plants are only found in one place
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that animated his campaign, but soon enough. enough he'll have to turn the hard work of governing. is he ready to make america great again? here to discuss our new york times columnist, nicholas, we've been watching this transition take place. he has steve bannon and controversial appointments. he's also making headway in his transition. what strikes you the most about this transition and his cabinet? >> i guess a couple of things. one is that for a populous, some of the folks storming washington aren't carrying pitch forks. they're carrying swiss bank accounts. we have penny p -- the secretary of commerce was the first billionaire to serve in a cabinet position. so far we -- it looks like we'll
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have wilbur ross as commerce secretary. betsy as education secretary. and who knows who else will come along in the trump cabinet? i'd also say some of the first appointees, bannon, mike flynn, national security advisor i think sent waves of terror around the world. if the secretary of state is mitt romney, is dave petraeus, somebody like that, i think that will be truly reassuring from a pretty low bar. >> we have been looking at these twitter storms. you mentioned all those people, the bannons and so forth. in the midst of that, while that was happening, the twitter storms happened. do you think that was a distraction from some of the people he was appointing and the conflicts of interest. >> i think some of the twitter storms were an intended distraction. i think when we and the media
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try to cover a conflict or issue, trump has been very shrewd at unleashing some tweet and we all go scurrying off it like dogs chasing a car. that's why i think he's been effective at ma nipulating us to that extent. president obama put out one tweet as president elect. it was a very noble thing about thank you for bringing about change. and it really is kind of different to have a president elect watch a tv show and fire all these tweets into the ether. i mean, you kind of wonder if that's how he's going to try to manage the world over the next four years. >> it is interesting, especially one a lot of them are not true at all. one wonders what happens as president. it's not just -- i mean, he's the president elect. the whole world will be watching. when he's president, it's a different story. >> that's right, the comments of the lowliest press secretary are
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vetted 18 times. people around the world are watching it. the president even more so. and the notion that the president is going to be watching what's happening in north korea and firing something off that will shake the world, i think is really troubling. >> he's had his second meeting with mitt romney tonight. here's what romney had to say about it. listen to this. >> i happen to think that america's best days are ahead of us. i think you'll see america continue to lead the world in this century, and what i've seen through these discussions i've had with president elect trump as well as what we've seen in his speech at the night of his victory, as well as the people he selected as part of this transition, all of those things combined give me increasing hope that president elect trump is the very man who can lead us to that better future. thank you. >> he says we'll see what happens next. what do you think happens next? >> that wasn't an apology, but
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it was certainly an admiring thing to say. >> different than donald trump being a fraud. >> it was a long way from that. indeed, i do think that it would be a shrewd appointment by trump, and that the moment there's a crisis, everybody will forget about the bad blood. i think romney doesn't know a lot about foreign affairs. he's not immensely experienced in it, but he does inspire confidence on the part of just about everybody. i think that at the assistant secretary of state level, he would be able to attract top flight republican talent in a way that giuliani would not. >> do you think it bothers donald trump that mitt romney appears more presidential than he does? if you were looking at, the two standing together, you would think mitt romney was the president. >> you would think, and president elect trump is a wee bit insecure, as what i've seen,
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on the other hand he says he wants a secretary of state who looks the part, and romney is a central casting. >> some people pointed out that during the campaign that actually, when you do the transition and you're establishing cabinet, the caverning caver cavern -- governing is actually the toughest part. i think he's making headway and putting his cabinet together quickly. >> he is putting his cabinet together really quickly. i really am troubled by some of the appointments. mike flynn, you know, the idea of mike flynn as national security advisor, trying to listen to what the pentagon is saying, what the state department is saying and energy department and trying to formulate a foreign policy, i can't imagine him being appointed by any other administration. some of the other appointments, i think are much more
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mainstream. and donald trump is not an id l idealogeue. it's best he's a noninterventionist. >> there's classic republicans. he talks about draining the swamp, but these are folks that will be around for a while. you're troubled by some of them, but besides that, does any of this feel like a new breed? >> elaine chow is reassuring. she knows washington well, and i think she was a shrewd pick. if you're trying to have infrastructure and spending and one of the obstacles is senate republicans worried about financing it, then the wife of the senate majority leader is probably a shrewd representative on your behalf. i think it's a mix. it's early to see how the
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overall shape of the cabinet will be. and a lot will depend on where is education taken? it's still unsure. >> thank you. always a pleasure. >> we're glad you're okay. i heard about your ordeal on twitter. yeah. harrowing. >> well, i'm all well now. i testified against the guy today. >> good. all right. >> look it up, if you're interested in what happened. when we come back, donald trump suggests if you burn the american flag, you should lose your citizenship. does he mean it, or is it all a distraction?
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built for business. the president elect's latest twitter tirade erupting in a political fire storm. suggesting if you burn the american flag, you could lose your citizenship. we have the author of "erectile dysfunction, a guide for voters". good evening to all of you. jeffrey, i'm going to start with you. flag burning an emotional issue. i think we discussed it before. he said nobody should be allowed to burn the american flag. if they do, there must be consequences. perhaps loss of citizenship or a year in jail. so give us a recap on this flag burning in the constitution? >> okay.
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there are two legal issues raised by that tweet. the first is the supreme court in 1989 and 1990 has said that burning the flag is a political act protected by the first amendment. so you can't be thrown in jail for burning the flag. the second point is the supreme court also said the law may not punish anyone with removal of your citizenship. you can be thrown in jail. you can be executed. you can lose the right to vote, but citizenship is not something that can be removed from someone for committing a crime. >> bryan, i want to play a clip of your friend who is signing a key vote about flag burning, a ruling there, voting that it is constitutional. listen to this. >> if i were king, i would not allow people to go around burning the american flag. however, we have a first
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amendment which says that the right of free speech shall not be abridged. and it is addressed in particular to speech critical of the government. i mean, that was the main kind of speech that tyrants would seek to suppress. >> you spent a lot of time with him. was this flag burning decision a tough one for him? >> it was a very difficult one, because i think he was torn on the one hand. he was very patriotic, and other hand, he understood that given the court's precedence, that this kind of protest is speech. mr. trump, of course, is having to get acclimated to the rather rare air of the presidency, and it looks as if we are in for a long acclimation. >> well put. >> that was -- i like that remark. donald trump is often praised, allen. he's praised justice scalia, but
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what would justice scalia have thought of his tweet? >> he praised justice scalia because he doesn't know anything about him or understand his philosophy. he just knows he was a conservative member of the court and was pandering. what worried me about trump is not flag burning. most american elected politicians would vote to ban flag burning. so that's a close question. what i'm worried about is anything donald trump doesn't like, he'd like to ban. he'd like to ban criticism of him. he'd like to ban the large media. he thinks as president he's going to get his way, and it's going to be free speech for me but not for thee. if he ever eliminated the laws of libel, he'd be the first person. >> what would happen to his twitter account? >> the good news is presidents
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as powerful as they are, don't get to change constitutional law. that's up to the courts. >> that's the justices. >> that's true. >> i do think the troubling aspect is not his opinion about flag burning which as allen poits out, a lot of people share. it's if you look at his tweets and statements since he was elected president, there is an extreme sensitivity to criticism. whether it was the protests in portland or the cast of "hamilton". this is something that, i mean, yes it's fine to express your first amendment rights, but when you're president, i think we all have to be a little worried if you're talking about stifling the rights of others. >> this is a tweet. as recently as february of 2013, donald trump seemed to have different views when it comes to freedom of speech. if the freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent
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we may be led like sheep to the slaughter. he was quotiininining george washington. is it going to be a problem for him, and how people understand the law? >> maybe not. there were 11 years in a row when the house and the senate voted on, well, actually, the house voted to have a constitutional amendment from 1995 to 2006, banning desecration of the flag. it never got through the senate. but he could always, because of the vagueness of the tweet this morning, he could always say that what he suggests and hopes for is a constitutional majority that would strip people of their citizenship if they were convicted of burning the flag and have other penalties. it's vague enough he could say he supports it. the interesting thing is would he vet supreme court nominees
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based on whether they would agree to what had been the minority in the five/four votes of 1989 and 1990 and overturn that precedent. >> if that's his priority, we're in real trouble. the situation now is perfect. everybody hates flag burners. the situation is perfect. it ain't broke. why is he fixing it? he's the president elect. >> i get what you're intimating here, but i don't know if everyone hating flag burners. people believe it's a right as your american. >> you can wear a swas ka, but people hate people who wear swastikas. >> i have to disagree. i think people burn the flag because -- well, some people burn the flag because they feel they're not represented in this
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country by government, many minorities, many people who are underrepresented in the country feel that way. people wear swastikas because of hate. those are two different things. i don't think everyone hates flag burners. most people would defend the right to do it, but they don't like it. >> i defend a football player's right to kneel during the pledge of allegiance, but i wouldn't do it. free speech for me but not thee. generally conservatives and liberals agree it's the radicals on the hard left trying to sense and the radicals on the hard right. and president trump should not join those two groups. >> we'll be right back. and we're right back where we started. we look like catalogue models! who trusts a clean handyman anyway? we can't look this good! dinge is the dirt the bargain detergent can't get to. tide pods can.
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the first amendment contains principles that make america what it is. does donald trump really want to change that? back with me alan dershowitz and bryan garner. bryan let's start with you and take a look at the first amendment. this is a short passage. there's a huge amendment of what makes this country great.
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congress shall make no law respecting and establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of speech, or the press, or the right of people peaceably to assemble and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. donald trump has spoken out as a candidate and president elect. do you think he understands how sacred this passage is? >> well, i mean, you could make the argument that cynically he does and that he is, perhaps, doing what i suggested earlier and going for a constitutional amendment. you could also make the argument that our president elect needs a basic lesson in civics, and the separation of powers and civil liberties and what they mean in this country. you know, it's cynical in the sense that this declaration this morning appeals to the, let's
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say the sense of pay trichl, the only people disagreeing and being upset by it are experts, or highly educated folks who understand what civil liberties mean. >> yeah. go ahead, jeffrey. >> i'm not sure. i actually think i give sort of the american people a little more credit than that. i think people understand that the government shouldn't be deciding what sort of speech is permissive and what's not. i don't think that's necessarily an elite point of view. i do agree that flag burning does bring out the anti-free speech spirit in at lot of people. but i think this is a sufficiently core value that it's not a matter of income or education or age. i think most people get it. >> i think most people, however, if you put a poll out, most people would say the first amendment should be amended to
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prohibit flag burning. the liberals want to amend the first amendment to promibt citizens united and limit fundraising. i don't think anybody should mess with the amendment. prior presidents have tried to. even jefferson. he said before he was president given a choice he would take then he served as president for eight years and said i'll never read another newspaper again. they're full of lies. >> that sets me up for my next question. maybe you can answer it allen. it's not the first time he's attacked the first amendment. he said he wanted to make it easier for journalists who reported negative stories about him to be sued for libel. do you think he has deeper desire to control disend here? >> right. if he had his way, he would say i get to say what i want on twitter about anybody else but you don't get to say what you
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think about me. again, it's for me, but not for thee. and we have to -- i don't agree with senator mccain that we should ignore it. we have to tell him that we the american people are going to fight to defend our first amendment. >> do you have john mccain's sound bite? you mentioned it. >> i think it's important to remember in the context of all this, the press is unpopular at the moment. he hasn't had a press conference in months. he hasn't answered questions from the press. he doesn't have a press pool following him around the way other president elects have. i mean, it's not like we are embraced by the public as their representatives, and i think he knows that. and that was why when he had rallies, particularly with his core supporters, the press would be in a pen there and he would say they're scum and despicable and people would cheer. it's not just that we are
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embracing the constitution. it's that we're perceived as an interest group too. we are not necessarily seen just as the public's representatives? >> you mentioned john mccain. our manu raju caught up with him about this. >> i am not commenting on mr. trump. i will continue not to comment on mr. trump. >> he said people who burned the flag should be prosecuted. what do you think of that. >> a decision by the white supreme court. i do not approve of burning the flag. i think there should be some punishment, but as of right now, the supreme court decision is that people are free to express themselves that way. but i do not approve of it, and i think there's other ways for people to express their views rather than burn a flag that so many americans fought and died for. >> he even said people should lose citizenship. >> i will not comment on mr. trump's comments. i have not and will not.
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>> he's commenting out commenting. bryan, what do you make of that? >> well, in 1989 justice kennedy in agreeing with the prohibition of flag -- any ban of flag burning justice kennedy said the american flag protects even those who hold it in contempt. and that is one of the great ironies here. the flag is a symbol. it means so many things to so many different people, but it fundamentally is about american core values. and it does protect those who hold it in contempt. >> but let's hope it continues to protect them, because he has control over appointments to the supreme court. all he has to do is appoint one more justice, fill the scalia vacancy and it could be in danger. that's why the senate has to play an important role in making
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sure that the president doesn't eviscerate our basic constitutional rights. >> within of his signature policies he's mentioned is banning of muslims. would that undermine into tanot aspect of the first amendment. >> presidents have controlled the boarders. they can decide on quotas from certain countries. immigration policies, obviously, a power of the federal government. you certainly could not have a policy that said all muslims are not allowed in the united states. and that was how he initially phrased that proposal. he's sort of backed away from it lately. i don't know where it currently stands, but i think it's complicated constitutionally, and it may be simply that he doesn't have the right to do what he wants to do. >> bryan, i want to ask you. donald trump has a vacancy to fill. he said he would look for a
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justice in the mold of scalia. what do you think scalia would say about this issue and the first amendment? >> i think he would say leave the first amendment alone, and leave the texas versus johnson decision and the two decisions in which the supreme court decided the flag burning protection, leave it alone. >> this was obama's vacancy to fill. there was a long period of time where the republicans would not allow the vacancy to be filled. i wouldn't be surprised if there were democrats who would say we're going to keep this empty, quote senator cruz, what's wrong with four to four? wait for another vacancy j but this is not trump's vacancy to fill. >> i enjoy third down conversation. thank you. >> donald trump campaigned oh on his promise to drain the swamp, but do some of his cabinet picks tell a different story?
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congressman jack kingston, senior adviser to the trump campaign. so far mitt romney said we'll see. donald trump said we'll see. it was cordial. all right. let's discuss. sally, you first. we know trump had dinner with mitt romney tonight. if he picks mitt romney as his secretary of state, what does it say about him, about trump? >> uh, that -- i mean i don't know. that his capacity for forgiveness is unparalleled? it would be a stunning thing if, frankly, given the things he said trump picks romney. i think it is more interesting in the other direction, if romney who tried to take a very principled stand in the campaign decides, uh, you know, power is more important than principles and this person i bashed as uniquely disqualified, unqualified to be leader of the free world, i'm now going to actually go help him and serve his das tarredly agenda.
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that would be a pretty low mark for romney who, you know, for all of his short coming a lot of people saw as a moral and upstanding person. >> i take that, representative kingston has a few words to say about this? >> well, i would say this. i think mitt romney is a guy who wants to serve. you know, in public service once you get the bug you have it until you die. i think he is a guy with game left in him. you know, he wants to answer the call of the country. i think this is great charm in america that when the president of the united states calls you and asks you to do something you certainly want to do it. in this case it might only be an interview, but mitt romney is stepping forward. but, you know -- >> you think it is real, jack? do you think he would, donald trump would pick him? >> i think it is real, but i also think that kellyanne conway's comments were real, and those were echoed also by congressman chris collins and cokewoman marcia blackburn. >> and probably donald trump as well because she wouldn't go off the reservation like that. >> well, yes, but i think there
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would be some concern about it from the base. sally put an interesting perspective on it, but i think the base -- don, as you know and i had the honor of being a frequent visitor on your show during september and october, and there were some bleak days, there were some tough days. i think those of us in the fox hole may have looked around and said, well, who else is in the fox hole passing the ammunition, and if you did not see somebody and now they're up there for a cabinet consideration, you tend to think, oh, man, that's a little bit bother some. but, again, let me say this, he needs to get the guy who he likes, somebody who is going to implement his policy and work for him. >> and that's officially known as a kingston-ism. go ahead, sally. >> no, this is a very interesting perspective to think about, look, you know, donald trump won the presidency, won the electoral college, but the majority of voters did not vote for him, and yet he has shown stunningly little interest in
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appealing to that majority of voters who did not support his presidency let alone, by the way, the many republican voters who probably pulled the lever only because they disliked him less than they disliked the other option. >> if you think the situation was reversed, do you think hillary clinton supporters would be reaching out and embracing -- >> i'm not talking about the supporters, just the candidates -- >> or hillary clinton would be embracing -- >> my point is for contrast we have to just look at the presidency of president obama who in 2008 won a pretty strong margin, had a very large mandate, and yet he in his cabinet appointed moderates, appointed conservatives, republicans, really looked for an ideologue cal diversity. >> quickly, jack, balls i want to move on. >> general flynn is a democrat, one of his first and highest ranking members, advisers is general flynn, a democrat. >> and so was donald trump once. i don't think it counts at this point in that sense. >> i think, sally, no matter who he picks you may have a concern
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about it and i understand that, but he won the election and it is his right to pick whoever he wants to -- >> in an interview with u.s.a. today new gingrich said this is a bigger job than i thought. what is your reaction to that? >> well, in reference to being secretary of state, is that the context? >> that's what newt gingrich said donald trump told him, pardon me for not putting that in there. >> i think it is true. no matter who you are, whether you are elected to city council or mayor congress, which i've experienced, or certainly president, you're just amazed that, well, there's a lot more to it than i thought. i think that's just part of, you know, the process that you go through. i think other president-elects have said the same sort of thing. but i did want to say this, that i think donald trump is being a student of this job. he is going out and he's carefully interviewing people. i know the weekend before last he interviewed 20 people over
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the weaken, whiekend, which is exhausting. but he is listening to different perspectives. michelle reid, another democrat he interviewed and betty devos, they disagreed on common core but came to a meeting of the minds of it. nikki haley of course was opposed to him but he put her in the cabinet. >> got to run, representative. >> he is reaching out. i think he is doing a lot of the things right. i feel like he's being very patient. >> thank you both. i appreciate it. when we come back, donald trump chooses a wall street big wig for treasury secretary. will that sit well with his voters? voters? ♪ -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com ♪ take a good look around... ♪ ...and if you're lookin' down, ♪ ♪ put a little love in your heart. ♪ ♪put a little love in your heart.♪ ♪ in your heart. (avo) the subaru share the love event is happening now
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donald trump filling out his cabinet tonight, but is he leaving mitt romney hanging? this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. no word on donald trump's secretary of state pick despite the president-elect's dinner with mitt romney. with the clock sticking, is romney still in the running. plus, caught on camera a dramatic day in the trial of the white police officer charged in the shooting death of walter scott. let's get to executive editor mark preston and cnn political analyst kirstin powers. mark, let's talk about this. i know you have been talking to your sources. i'm going to put up these tweets

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