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julie or howe. he had mental health issues and religious idealogies. it wasn't for us personally. it wasn't personal. he was trying to make a statement. >> the city of san bernardino held a series of memorials for the victims yesterday, including a night of remembrance which you're looking at there. stay with us. we are heading into the political arena with you as well as the courtroom. >> that means the next hour of "new day" starts right now. >> do you remember before taking office the president-elect of the united states of america has in one phone call potentially changed more than three decades of u.s. diplomatic practice. >> trump speaking by phone with the president of taiwan which is something no american president has done in nearly 40 years. >> if there was an express way to cause a diplomatic uproar with china, this would be the way to do it. >> president-elect trump is fully briefed and fully knowledgeable about these issues on an on going basis, regardless
of who is on the other end of the phone. >> united states does not recognize taiwan has a country. >> the chinese will see this as an infringement of what they see as their sovereignty. if you're just waking up, happy saturday and thank you for sharing some of your time with us here. we always appreciate it. i'm christi paul. >> i'm martin savidge in for victor blackwell. taiwan on line one, hardly sounds like fighting words, but apparently it is in under 50 days until president-elect donald trump enters the oval office, he is taerg up the diplomatic script in washington. >> yesterday he spoke on the phone with the president of taiwan. that breaks with nearly 40 years of u.s. diplomatic relations with china. well, this morning, china is calling this a shenanigan staged by taiwan. trump's transition team says the president of taiwan offered her congratulations to the president-elect on the phone. they also talked about the,
quote, close, political, economic and security ties that exist between taiwan and the u.s. >> but get this, no president or president-elect has spoken directly with the leader of taiwan since 1979. that's when america began adhering to the one china policy, they consider taiwan part of china. >> this comes after defense secretary ash carter recently calmed the region, quote, the most consequential for america's future. in september, carter said the u.s. will, quote, sharpen its military edge there in the face of chinese territorial expansion in the south china sea. we are standing by for the very latest on this. jessica schneider live at trump tower in new york this morning. jessica, what are you hearing from there this morning at this hour? >> well, you know, it's the telephone call that's bucked nearly four decades of diplomatic tradition and protocol. donald trump did take to twitter insisting that this ten-minute phone call was initiated by the
taiwan president, however the apparent backlash is already being seen. china has, in fact, reached out to the white house and a spokesman from the foreign ministry of china released a statement. i'll read it to you, saying, i must point out that there is only one china in the world and taiwan is an inseparable piece. it is the sole legal government that represents china and that's an internationally recognized fact. the one china principle is the political foundation of the china/u.s. relations. we urge the relevant side in the u.s. to adhere to that one china policy. of course china views taiwan as a renegade province. and the u.s. has long recognized beijing's claim that taiwan is part of china. but donald trump is bucking this. he took to twitter in a second tweet last night saying -- interesting how the u.s. sells taiwan billions of dollars of military equipment but i should not accept a congratulatory
call. trump's top adviser kellyanne conway also speaking out about this controversial phone call. take a listen. >> again, i can't discuss anything beyond what's been publicly said. i won't do that. and this is the president-elect. this will be his administration. he'll be commander in chief and he'll be president of the united states imminently now. he either will disclose or not disclose the full contents of that conversation, but he is well aware of what u.s. policy has been. >> reporter: so trump's team is totally backing this phone call, but in the past few hours we've been hearing from lawmakers, dip mats, former ambassadors saying that this breaks with diplomatic protocol and it could be a dangerous position for the united states. martin and christi? >> thank you. hey, jessica, other than those tweets we heard from donald trump, and of course we heard there from kellyanne conway, just to reiterate, kellyanne conway is basically saying this
is not making policy and donald trump saying -- is he essentially saying was i supposed to reject the phone call? but it's not as though you just call the white house and you get donald trump, right? it makes you think there was some sort of preplanning here. >> reporter: right. well, the trump team is defending this phone call, saying this isn't a change in policy. this is just a phone call between two leaders. donald trump saying that he was called. that it was a ten-minute phone call that was initiated by taiwan's president. so right now the trump team isn't giving much more than that. kellyanne conway not saying much last night. donald trump not saying much in the tweets, but to defend himself in a sense saying that he was called first and that, of course, pointing to the fact that the u.s. has sold taiwan arms over many years. christ snirks. >> we appreciate it so much. thank you. i want to talk with hillary rosen, she was a supporter of hillary clinton and brian robinson a republican strategist and former assistant chief of
staff for communications for governor nathan diehl. thank you both for being with us. we appreciate it. hillary, i want to ask you, when we were talking about donald trump's tweet there, how he said interesting how the u.s. sells taiwan billions of dollars in military equipment but i should not accept a congratulatory call. does he have a point? >> well, no because what he's doing is clouding the fact that actually a member as came out yesterday of his transition team who has been a pro-taiwan advocate actually arranged for this call to happen, so it was preplanned. i think two things are interesting here. and i should preface this by saying, you know, when he's president wants to be tougher on china, i'm okay with that. if he wants to relook at the china/taiwan policy, that's his right as president to do that. but we just learned that he actually has some business interests in taiwan and that there have been trump
organization developments there over the course of the last few years, so we need transparency about that. and then, you know, the second thing is this kind of constant need for congratulations that he keeps talking about is so unseemly. you know, if he could take a congratulatory call from an alien on mars, this guy would be talking about it as this great, you know, moment of the day. i do believe that there's this kind of feeding the beast that in essence we are subjected to that really gets in the way of policy. >> hillary, you mention the business ties to taiwan but he has business ties to china as well, does he not? >> apparently so. that's why transparency here matters and we don't know what he has more financial interest in. we don't know anything about the activity and the goals. and so again, you can't be in this situation where you've got no staff.
you've got no official read-out of these conversations. you've got no secretary of state. you know, this flying by the seat of the pants has some risk for the american people. >> brian, does that part of this conversation in terms of his business ties, how much of a problem might that be for him when it comes to how voters will continue to see him, to trust him, to put faith in what he does over the next few years? >> well, i think we just addressed that. he's got business interests in taiwan and in china. the fact that he's willing to do this suggests he's not so worried about his business interest in mainland chie narks he's willing to do what he thinks is best for the american people. >> but why was accepting this call the best thing to do? >> well, he said on the campaign trail -- >> the call was engineered. >> he said last year that we are tired of being bullied by china. they manipulate their currency.
they prop up and corrupt dangerous nuclear arm regime in north korea and we're not going to get pushed around anymore. taiwan is our ally. they are a democracy over there. less than 500 miles from mainland china. were obligated by law to defend taiwan if china attacks them. yes, we recognize the one china policy. trump has said that we will continue to support a one china policy, but all this has done is break with symbolism. it doesn't break with policy. the policy is the same. >> hillary rosen and brian robinson, i'm sorry we ran out of time. thank you so much for taking the time to talk with us. glad to have you here. >> thank you. >> take care. >> you too. not the only surprise, we weren't supposed to find out until next week -- >> uh-huh, but then donald trump told the crowd at his victory rally who he has chose on the be his defense secretary. next the challenge james mattis
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donald trump's pick for secretary of defense is already winning praise from the man he will replace, that's the current secretary of defense ash carter. he says that he holds general mattis in the highest regard. he earned praise from members of the military. and it was during the iraq war, at least in the opening stages i was embedded with u.s. marines and so they were under the command of general mattis then and i was with marines in afghanistan that were under mattis at that time. let's talk about the voice that mattis could bring to the trump administration. that's what many people are focus on. we're joined now by lieutenant general mark hurdling. good to see you, sir. >> good to see you, martin. >> i should point out you're a former army commanding general for europe and the seventh army. we know this pick has gotten really a lot of praise and one
of the reasons i heard from my marine friends almost the moment that trump uttered the name, they like it very much too because they see him as a good sort of military counterbalance to donald trump. would you agree? >> i would. and i'm a big fan of general mattis myself. we were together not -- i didn't serve for him, but we were together in iraq the same time you were embedded with him. i was over in baghdad with the first armor division and he is an extremely capable and exceedingly great tactical and operational battlefield commander that's critically important because the troops will love him for that. and when i say troops, i'm talking about all those in the pentagon and outside the pentagon around the world when he has chosen for secretary of defense, but there are other things that are involved with being the sec-def as it's called. there will be some challenges for sure that he'll face. >> one of the things i know from
being with the marines in those two theaters, what they love about him, plain spoken. he came up with the phrase no, better friend and no worse enemy, but he also has that line about be polite, be professional and then have a plan to kill everybody in the room. he sort of talks about due alty of war there that you must have a discipline but there is also a time that you have to act on aggression. it seems that many people might be worried he is too hawkish. what would you say to that? >> i would say that's not the case. he is a student of military operations and campaigns to be sure. martin, the thing i keep pointing out is that there's an old saying that says those who have seen war are the ones who are most prone to avoid it. and i think general mattis will give that voice in the room of when we go after national security concerns at times in the past the military arm has been the first one thrown
forward. i think general mattis will say, hey, we've got to make sure it's a true national security concern before we unleash the dogs of war, as it was. but when we do, we better mean business as opposed to doing things in a more haphazard way. >> right. i too found that the marines were expressing that he is not necessarily a general that will initiate getting you into war but if a war you have is he is the one you want planning and fighting it that's for certain. >> that's the phrase i heard, mattis is like patten, you keep him behind that glass door you break glass and he comes out. but that's his military style. he has also run large organizations, not only central command which is concerned with all of the countries in the middle east, but he also ran joint forces command which in norfolk when it existed -- it's since closed down, but that was the organization that was looking at the future of war
fighting. and as the secretary of defense, he will be facing more challenges than just isis and terrorism, in fact, there are some that would say today the military faces really five different -- very different kinds of fights that they could potentially be involved with. anywhere from a nuclear war potentially with north korea to asymmetric war in europe against russia and protecting the nato allies and general mattis knows all those elements of warfare, part of his job as joint forces commander and he's written a book recently about civil control of the military that he wrote with a few other people, he understands these kind of things that he'll be given charge of by mr. trump. >> he's no wall flower, that's for certain, and he's going to push back against donald trump. there were two areas where i see where he could run into friction with the trump administration, one is iran and whether or not tear up the agreement and two as you already mentioned, russia,
right? >> no. that's correct. but also he's going to be giving advice on the commitment of the military arm. as the second in command of the military, you know, he is in that chain of command between mr. trump and all the forces throughout the world and the different combatant commanders. that's a critically important point for him to be in. but the other piece is he has to run that business of the pentagon. a military that's been in war for the last 16 years or so and there is a lot of things that have to be regreened and renewed. not only acquisition programs but personnel costs, the budget, how we size the force according to what the new administration wants to do. those are all very challenging roles for the secretary of defense. >> let's talk before i let you go about the business of the pentagon and i won't say it's unique you have a general, it's happened before, but what about his experience he brings to the business at the pentagon? >> well, i think he will
probably choose under secretaries that will contribute to this who will be businessmen. it's usually been a senator or a governor or a businessman that's run the pentagon. now that you have a former soldier who has run large organization and who knows the military, that i think will give mr. trump an advantage on who he has in the pentagon. but he's going to need the business acumin as well. he'll need the folks who understand acquisition programs, who understands research and development of technology, who truly understand personnel costs. just yesterday i saw that 13 female soldiers were just commissioned into the armor force of the united states army. there is a dissing of the military saying a social place. that's not true in my book, but it will be some of the things that he'll face. >> uh-huh. well, we appreciate it, general, very much. again, speaking from my personal experience of seeing general mattis' leadership, if you're afraid that donald trump will go on without anyone standing up to him that is not general mattis,
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decades of u.s. protocol on taiwan and then it risks infuriating china over its one china policy which claims taiwan is part of china. it's not just taiwan according to president duerte, trump said that duerte is going about his fight against the drug lords, quote, the right way. that's a very violent fight. the same president duerte who also, by the way, insulted president obama. washington's been critical of the philippine government's execution of drug dealers without the benefit of judicial proceedings. so let's bring in the cnn politics senior reporter and gordon change, daily beast columnist. trump's call from a leader of taiwan, really a breech of protocol here or was it just a mistake or is he subtly trying to send a message to china? what's your favorite on this? >> that's the answer to that
question we don't really know, martin. it's certainly a clear breech of the protocol and practice of the way u.s. relations with taiwan and china over the taiwan issue have been conducted for 40 years. i think it's too early to say yet whether donald trump is previewing a new emphasis and approach in the u.s. policy towards taiwan. that i think is something we're only going to learn when he becomes president. but i think it's very interesting. donald trump if you think about it, he built his political career and his campaign on breaking norms and conventions of politics. it worked very well in the domestic political context. the question is he going to pursue that approach as president. i think this incident is clearly a sign that when you do that on the international stage, on delicate issues of diplomacy and relations with other countries and the framework of american foreign policy you could lead yourself into areas you perhaps do not want to go and create crises that could perhaps be
detrimental to the early months of trump administration. >> all right. gordon, let me bring you in here, his call, donald trump's dual the philippines leader, this is the same man, of course, who insulted president obama, forced him to cancel a permanent meeting he had. is this a snub now to obama? >> i don't think so. i think this really san outreach to an ally that we have. we've had troubled relations with the philippines for quite some time and it looks like the philippines is going to defect to china and maybe to russia. what trump is trying to do is to reel it back in. this is a message to beijing, just as is his call with the taiwan president. so this i think is part of a deliberate policy which really is to take the initiative from china. too often we've let the chinese create crises. i think trump right now has decided that the united states should be in charge, not beijing. >> uh-huh. good point. stephen, when we talk about duerte's relationship between the u.s., been extremely rocky at times and as we already
mentioned he is pursuing these possible alliances with russia and china. so given that do you think this chat by trump is fruitful, is really a good thing? >> i think it's certainly going to sort of add to the questions that are already taking place in asia about exactly how donald trump is going to approach the region. the obama administration spent the last eight years trying to improve relations with the philippines as a bull work against china and the rise of china in the region. now clearly with the president duerte's new administration that has all shifted and everything is up in the air. it's true that donald trump could be trying a different strategic approach to pull china back to the philippines back from china, but at the same time, according to the read out from the philippine government, president trump invited president duerte to the white house, that would be seen in many quarters an endorsement in the manner which he went about this war against drug wars and philippines led to 4,000 deaths,
judicial killings and raises the question, in the pursuit of the wider strategic goals, is the united states under the trump administration going to sort of turn a blind eye to these sort of human rights violations, not just in the philippines but elsewhere in the world? >> and else where in the world, i'm glad you brought that up. phone call with pakistan, the prime minister is saying he called their leader, quote a terrific guy and said that his country is, quote, amazing with tremendous opportunities, unquote. there comes the business side of him out. do you think comments like this, gordon, will harm the overall relationship with india, which of course is not a real close friend of pakistan? >> yeah. i think that this comment was a mistake. one of the most important things that george w. bush did and one of the most important things that his successor did was to really bring this outreach to india to fruition. and i think that the partnership
of the world's most populist democracy which in about two or three years will become the world's most populist country that partnership with the world's most powerful democracy is an important one. talking to pakistan in these terms is not going to help that relationship and indeed we need be friends with india. our relations with pakistan have been troubled and getting worse. i think we should write pakistan off and really make a commitment to new delhi, that would help us in a number of different areas. >> and, in fact, trump has implied the same thing. he sent a mixed message. that's another time. thank you both for joining me this morning. >> thank you. well, heart breaking story out of texas to talk to you about. a teenager takes her own life after years of bullying. well, her family is hoping to turn their tragedy into some life-saving lessons for all of us. whinside the box... it's what's inside the person who opens it. give ancestrydna,
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well, one texas family is really hoping to turn a horrible situation that happened to them into some lessons for the rest of us here. 18-year-old brandy, look at her here, she killed herself this week in front of her family. can you imagine? relatives say brandy reached her breaking point after cyber bullies targeted her. this happened for years, they say. sending her nasty text messages, setting up fake social media accounts under her name. >> they would make dating websites of her and they would put her number and they would
put her picture and lie about her age and say that she's giving herself up for sex for free, to call her. >> her family says they reported the bullying to school officials. they went to the police more than once, but they were told that there was nothing police could do. now their hope is that her death can lead to some strict laws and more awareness of the dangers of cyber bullying. >> this is something new. this is something we need to figure out and work through and try to find how to be able to stop what people are doing with social media. >> let's talk to criminal defense attorney danny se value es, thank you so much for being here. this family says they reported the bullying to police and they say the police told them the suspects used an app that wasn't traceable. so first of all, can these apps -- these unanimous apps be shut down? >> they can by the people who run the apps, but it is
difficult not only to investigate who is using the apps because it would require police to get subpoenas, search warrants and these companies might oppose them depending on who they are. but as an additional problem, it's very difficult to have laws and enact laws and prosecute cyber bullies because in many cases you would be trying to prosecute what is otherwise protected free speech. as long as speech is in a public forrum, it can be nasty, it can be mean, it can be racist, it can be almost anything short of the exceptions to free speech like threats and fighting words. >> okay. but this family certainly, danny, has to look at this and say putting her -- creating websites with her image, asking for the things they were asking for, that's not free speech. that's using her image, so is there not some form of defamation that could come into play here? >> certainly.
when you start using smeebs image without their consent, now you're getting into invasion of privacy and misappropriation of somebody's image. yes, things can be done about that. the reality is that -- i'm not speaking for this particular law enforcement agency, is that many law enforcement agencies won't place that high of priority on people -- something they perceive as sort of cat fishing someone, or putting their face up on social media because a couple different reasons. they may not prioritize it in that agency and they simply may not view social media as the real threat that it can be, especially to young people. >> so we've got families say that are sitting here and watching this right now and they are having similar issues with their children, with a sister, with anybody, what do you say to them? how do you protect yourself? what do you do? >> well, they did the right thing -- this family did the right thing. they did report it to law enforcement. i don't know the particulars of why law enforcement really couldn't prosecute, but schools
have an increased ability to police speech. students do not have coextensive rights of free speech as do adults. schools request regulate speech, especially if it makes its way on to campus and disrupts the classroom or constitutes an invasion of another student's life. so, schools have a little more power in this area and schools can regulate and even discipline students for speech that makes its way on campus. >> so in this case, is the school liable in some regard? >> that's a difficult -- >> we don't know it came on to the campus. when it's done via the web, if the police aren't going to do anything, and you go to the school and the school essentially i'm going to assume, danny, you're going to say, if it's not happening on campus, it's not our problem. >> it's a difficult analysis. first, most government agencies enjoy a degree of immunity and then you have to ask, well, what school, what duty did the school have in policing?
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oil well wells. we don't know the motivation. more ruthless destruction or the hope it would provide cover from air power above. the fires have burned since august, lowering the sky, concealing the sun, layering the earth and people's lungs with toxic black filth. the heat coming off this fire is incredible. it's melted much of the ground around the well. the air it is thick and foul, it really tastes terrible. it makes your eyes water. this is the poisonous atmosphere that people in this part of iraq have been breathing in and living with for months. >> reporter: there's now a desperate effort to fix the wells, but lead engineer tells me it's a difficult, complex process. >> very technical, yes. >> reporter: he says you can't just put the fire out because that would release vast amounts of deadly fumes. first, earth-moving equipment is
used to contain the fire and channel the flowing, bubbling oil into reservoirs. then workers dig down through the flames while trying to keep the oil and their equipment cool as they haul out mounds of smoking sludge and earth. gaze through the flames and you can see the fire's red hot core. they need to get through all of this to find the head of the well, only then can they determine the extent of the damage and what must be done to close it. workers here say the nature of the job is always challenging and dangerous and in the beginning they had to cope with isis as well. this man says -- you'll be trying to dig out the fires and they'll be shooting at you. you'll be using the hose and mortars will start coming in. the group also left mines around the burning wells, most haven't been cleared yet. it's too early to accuratelie t
estimate of the value. the human cost is more disturbing. families live beneath the towering columns of smoke and a sky that always feels like twilight. children's faces and hands are stained by the same air they breathe. a dark shadow now hangs over their health, their future because of yet another toxic legacy left behind by isis. phil black, cnn, northern iraq. >> i know that is hard to watch. we'll see you back here at 10:00 a.m. eastern for cnn "newsroom.." "smerconish" starts right now. ♪ i'm michael smerconish coming to you from philadelphia where we welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. donald t