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unfolding. we'll have more details as they become available. we'll send it back to you. >> thank you very much for that update. >> thank you, yeah, and of course, we're going to continue to follow this throughout the afternoon with ms. fredricka whitfield who is here with us now. we want to thank you for spending your morning with us. >> been a pleasure, over to you. >> this ohio connection this morning. you feeling ohio strong, okay some. >> we do. we're buckeyes, we admit it. >> thanks so much have a great day. it's the 11:00 eastern hour. i'm fredricka whitfield, newsroom starts right now. all right. let's begin with that ten minute phone call that is defying decades of u.s. diplomacy norms. china is filing a formal complaint with the u.s. as president elect donald trump accepted a call from the taiwanese president. this marks the first publicly reported call with a leader of
taiwan since 1979. the u.s. does not formally recognize taiwan as an independent state. and backs beijing's claim that taiwan is a part of china. but chinese officials fear this phone call may have signaled otherwise. trump is downplaying that call. and as having any further implications tweeting this, quote, the president of taiwan called me today to wish me congratulations on winning the presidency. thank you. meanwhile, trump's senior advisor kellyanne conway says this was no different than other previous phone calls between president and world leaders. >> this president elect, i'm pretty certain that president elect obama spoke to world leaders in preparation for taking over as president of the united states and commander in chief. i can't imagine he was asked if he had been properly and fully briefed considering he had little experience himself. >> this is a break with u.s.
policy. this is suncharted waters for decades. >> anderson, president elect trump is fully briefed and fully knowledgeable about these issues on an ongoing basis. regardless of who is on the other end of the phone. >> all right, let's go to jessica schneider who is live outside trump tower. what more do we know about how this call was orchestrated and if the u.s. state department was at all notified? >> reporter: we understand that the state department did not have any knowledge of this. they did not facilitate it. the white house also did not know about this phone call. but we do know that the man who helped facilitate this call is steven yates. he's a heritage member and he has also an advisor to the trump transition. he worked for dick cheney as an asia advisor. steven yates is protaiwan. there has been a swift reaction from chinese officials. in fact, the foreign minister saying that this was a play by taiwan. also calling this shenanigans by
taiwan. state run media in china is saying this is an unprecedented break from the one china policy. and there's been a swift statement and reaction from the foreign ministry of china, a spokesperson there saying that -- that the u.s. should continue to adhere to the one china policy. also saying that it is the foundation of u.s. and china relations. but of course donald trump defending this phone call in two different tweets. you said you talked about at the beginning that he said that he actually received this ten minute phone call from the president of taiwan. also saying this in a tweet. saying interesting, how the u.s. sells taiwan billions of dollars of military equipment, but i should not accept a phone call. he is referring to the taiwan relations act. that the u.s. provides arms to taiwan. trump's team is backing the phone call. kellyanne conway backing it as well. take a listen. >> it's a matter of the executive committee. it's a matter of the president
elect, the vice president elect. other advisors to the transition making suggestions. we're happy to schedule the calls. it's an orderly process. we make sure there's plenty of time for the phone calls, that there's proper briefing. so far they've got really well. he is having private conversations, giving a reteout here and there about them but not trying to make policy and not trying to make waves. until he's actually the president in six and a half weeks. >> reporter: this phone call prompting immediate backlash china reached out to the white house last night. many lawmakers and diplomats are saying this move s into dangerous authority and could be a threat to the u.s. >> thank you so much. appreciate that let's talk more about this. this phone call. and why china is fearful of it's
implications joining me now is the chair for southeast asia studies. good to see you. the taiwanese government gave more detail about the content of the phone call in a translated statement saying this about this conversation between trump and the president, quote, they shared their view and concepts of future important policy points, in particular to promote the domestic economy and strengthen national defense allowing the people better live and the guarantee of security. so what's your point of view as to whether this phone call should have been made and if the content of that phone call is fair? >> nice to be with you, if i may i'd like to correct one point in your lead up. you said that china -- the united states accepts china's one china policy that taiwan is part of china. that is not historically correct. the u.s. position is that taiwan's future is to be determined by the mutual consent
of the chinese and taiwanese people. so it's not the same as saying from the outset that taiwan is part of china. i think the phone call is, frankly, almost an american media and expert tempest in a chinese teapot. the content of the call was perfectly routine for the leader of the one country to congratulate the leader of another country. i think we're making much too much of the perceived change in u.s. policy. mr. trump -- >> so then if it's too much is being made of it, why would china call the white house and say be careful? >> because china always does that, number one. number two, i think the american media and experts have virtually invited china to react harshly. because i think we reacted faster than the chinese government did. so i don't think we should make much more of that. what's really at stake here is that china resents and objects
to any visibility, any publicity for the phenomenon that is taiwan. a free democratic chinese people that have paved the to democracy. >> why since 1979 no u.s. president would have this dialogue? >> the united states has been hypersensitive to chinese feelings. we've been oversolic tiitous. president nixon wrote the relationship between china and taiwan and taiwan is separated politically from the mainland. our diplomats have not yet caught up with the reality. we continue to permechwapetuate myth we need to worry about every whisper. >> are you categorizing this as breakthrough, the president elect would have direct
conversations with taiwan and it's your hope or anticipation there would be more conversations to come once sworn in? >> i don't think it's breakthrough yet. as i said he's simply a private citizen at the moment. i hope that when he does take office, he will conduct a fresh review of the entire u.s. policy toward china and taiwan to bring them back into reality. because they certainly are not at that stage now. >> at the same time, as a private citizen, as president elect, is it inappropriate to embark on the conversation before inrathaugurateinaugurate >> he didn't embark. >> one of his close advisors helped facilitate the conversation, the phone call. >> you know, i don't know the details, but i will say this, there are three major flashpoints in asia. taiwan, north korea and the south china sea. every one of those china is the key player. and i think that the united states needs to reevaluate its
entire policy toward china. >> all right. thanks so much for your time, appreciate it. all right. donald trump's calls to several world leaders, his cabinet is still taking shape. the final t finalists for secretary of state and what u.s. foreign diplomacy could look like under his administration. rry west and my life is basketball. but that doesn't stop my afib from leaving me at a higher risk of stroke. that'd be devastating. i took warfarin for over 15 years until i learned more about once-daily xarelto... a latest generation blood thinner. then i made the switch. xarelto® significantly lowers the risk of stroke in people with afib not caused by a heart valve problem. it has similar effectiveness to warfarin. warfarin interferes with vitamin k and at least six blood clotting factors. xarelto® is selective targeting one critical factor of your body's natural clotting function. for people with afib currently well managed on warfarin, there is limited information on how xarelto and warfarin compare
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we are going to appoint mad dog mattis as our secretary of defense. >> the general has more than 40 years of military experience. he led u.s. forces in the persian gulf war, iraq and afghanistan. earning his the nickname mad dog mattis. he is the former head of the u.s. central command. billionaire billionaire investor willber ross. he's known for buying distressed families and turning them around. republican congressman tom price of georgia, selected for health and human services secretary. he's the chair of the house budget committee and a former orthopedic surgeon who is critical of obamacare. so far trump has selected three women for key positions. >> we are so excited. >> former u.s. secretary of
labor elaine chow as u.s. transportation secretary. >> i love south carolina. >> south carolina governor nikki haley as u.s. ambassador to the united. school choice activists betsy devos for education secretary. >> theretired three star genera mike flynn for national security advisor. he has helped destroy extremist networks in afghanistan and iraq and is known as a skilled intelligence officer even though he was forced out as head of the defense intelligence agency, reportedly over his combative management style. kansas representative mike pompeiio. elected to congress in 2010 he was a tea party favorite and one of the lead republicans investigating the 2012 benghazi attack. then there's steve bannon, trump's chief strategist. he spent seven years in the u.s.
navy. was an investment banker for goldman sachs and he made it his mission to take down the republican party stamt. alabama senator jeff session gicis is nominated as u.s. attorney general. sessions has been accused of calling civil rights groups unamerican. and criticizing the voting rights act. >> thank you. >> and finally, the chairman of the republican national committee, reince priebus who will be the president elect's chief of staff. he's a mainstream pick many republicans find encouraging, some tea party leaders fear priebus is too much of a washington insider. all right let's bring in senior political analyst ron brownstein and contributing editor for time
magazine jade newton small. good to see both of you. ron, mattis is the latest general picked by trump. in the case of mattis there will need to be a congressional waiver. there needs to be a seven years separation, it's only been three years. >> i think he's going to get the waiver. he's respected on both sides of the aisle. there is hesitation among some in congress on both sides about breaking the precedent of a seven year waiting period which only george marshall the administrator of the victory over hitler in world war ii has made this jump. i don't think it's going to be a problem. look, i think in the mattis appointment you see the larger pattern. with a few very notable exceptions like jeff sessions, most of this cabinet is a cabinet you might have seen from almost any republican who was
elected. it is more reflecting the general balance of power in the gop that might have been expected. the edgiest picks have been bannon and flynn. >> where is the anti-establishment? >> some of these picks are very anti-establishment. jeff sessions, michael flynn is not a pick i think any of the bush administration or -- hard to imagine any of them picking. even the cia chief. he's a huge tea party activists, he's a bomb thrower on capitol hill. a thorn to some degree in the leadership's side. i don't think he's anyone i could imagine establishment republicans picking to be in their cabinet. i think there are definitely a lot of picks in this cabinet that are very untraditional. >> they've been part of the political spectrum. when people think ant anti-establishment they think
outside of that. >> when you look at the people nominated, trump has other advisors the public doesn't know. advisors may be calling taiwan, the philippines, and then trump heaping praise during a phone call with pakistan prime minister. what do these decisions tell you about who really has trump pf's here? >> whoever it ultimately going to be his secretary of state is going to have their work cut out for them. you get to a very important point. in any administration, it is an open question how significant these cabinet appointments really are. because the balance of power between the cabinet and the white house, varies from administration to administration. but the long term trend is to vest more control over the administration's direction in the white house. that's where he's put his edgiest pick.
general flynn is not anyone else would put. if you have labor secretary, education secretary, that might have been someone you'd see in another republican administration that's one thing. it's not clear ultimately whether they will be the ones driving the train. given the improvisational matter in all the phone calls and the way they've unfolded, you're going to see a lot of direction out of the white house. if not necessarily a lot of kind of guided, you know, kind of a clear map and pathway, especially on foreign policy. >> speaking of direction, even in this transition period, you know the president elect would receive intelligence briefings from the white house, material from the state department. a trump senior advisor, kellyanne conway had this exchange with anderson cooper last night. >> there have been questioned raised about the briefing materials that president elect trump has used in phone calls with world leaders.
whether or not he's used state department briefing booklets and information, and you know, theeth what's been provided to him. did he consult that before he had the phone call? >> he has access to those. he has access to -- >> does he use it though? >> of course he uses it. he reads everything. he's the busiest guy on the planet. pretty much has been for a while. >> does the president elect not have to adhere to certain protocols? is it because he's not been sworn in, he can do what he wants to do? >> it was interesting china's response was they lodged their complaint through the quote, unquote relevant office. meaning the actual ones in power and the ones that knew they were talking about. it was a backhanded insult to donald trump. i guess the question is what we don't know the answer to, did he
do this naively, and just sort of blundered into this massive diplomatic faux pas with china and did he do it intentionally. he made anti-china policy a center piece of his election. this would be in line with a lot of what he's said throughout the election. his reaction to it on tweets was wait, they called me, it's no big deal. i didn't -- i'm not changing policy here at all. that's been the wafted back since then. so you don't know for sure whether this was premeditated and was a message, a slap at china or whether they ambled into this like, very big situation. >> another footnote kellyanne conway said they're trying to make policy not waves. we'll have you back. next at least nine people have died in oakland after a warehouse party went up in flames. we're live on the scene with details next.
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we're following breaking news out of oakland california. nine people are dead and another 25 may be missing after a fire broke out at warehouse party ko. dan simon is on the scene. what can you tell us about this building and what was going on at the time? >> reporter: well, hi, we know there was a party that was going
on. and this is a significant tragedy here in oakland. we have been told that at least nine people are dead. and there are reports that 25 people are unaccounted for. i'm here with the oakland fire chief, what can you tell us about this? there were obviously some kind of gathering, celebration, maybe a christmas party? >> right. first of all, i want to say that our thoughts and prayers goes out to the victims right now, the ones who have been identified. their families and this community and the city of oakland. our firefighters did a great job. this was a difficult fire for them. and it's just a tragic day. you know, as a whole. but as you were mentioning, there was some type of party that was going on here when the fire broke out. it's been a report that there's been between 50 to 100 people possibly that was in attendance at the fire. a group of individuals were able
to escape. some of them have not -- were not able to escape. right now, we can confirm that there are nine fatalities. but there's still a large portion of the building that still needs to be searched. the building was a warehouse that was kind of like an artist studio that had, you know, several different partitions where they had variouse artists in there. inside it's just a wide assortment of just everything, furniture, mannequins, statues, i mean, just a lot of stuff inside. there's a second floor that had a makeshift stairwell that was actually reported to me being made out of pallets. the majority of the fires were found so far -- excuse me -- up on that second floor. but as i mentioned before, there's still a large portion of the building that still needs to
be searched. the initially early in the fire, the individuals that did escape have given us a list of 25 names of people that they may have been with in the structure that right now they cannot locate. so we are going through those names, trying to verify to make sure we don't have any duplic e duplicates. >> reporter: in terms of the numbers, is the problem just simply getting inside and determining if there are more bodies inside the facility? >> it really is. and there is a lot of debris. like i mentioned, the roof did collapse. and so there is a lot of large timber and debris that's going to need to be removed. and it's going to have to be removed in a slow and methodical way. not only to preserve in looking for additional bodies but also to preserve the scene trying to determine the cause. >> is it the kind of building if
a fire breaks out that people would have a difficult time escaping? >> well, the building itself originally was a warehouse. and if it would have just remained a warehouse no, you wouldn't expect people to have trouble escaping. because there was a lot of construction where people just, you know, put up partitions. there wasn't a real clear entry or exit path. as mentioned earlier up on the second floor. it was the stairwell, there was one way down from the second floor. and that stairwell was put together through what was described to me as pallets. and if the fire possibly, if it had started in that area, everyone on the second floor would not have been able to escape. so i don't know where the fire started. but i know that the way the building was situated, it really
made it difficult for people to escape. >> reporter: it's been described as a work/live space. it doesn't sound like these are traditional apartments. the there aren't actual bedrooms? >> correct. there is still question about whether people were actually living there. it was a lot of different artists partition and little studios. and some folks have said that yes some folks were living there, some were saying no, it wasn't a regular live/work studio. so we're still trying to find out if anybody was living there, how many people were live ing there. >> reporter: any theories about cause? >> no. i don't want to talk about cause at this time. we have our partners coming in from alameda county task force that's going to assist us with the investigation. and i'm just going to wait until
they get here so they can do a thorough investigation and really give us some good information without me making assumptions. >> reporter: thank you very much. so, fred, you heard what she had to say. there was a party last night and it sounds like the building inside is very cluttered because it is an artist studio. and the chief says apparently -- although she's not entirely sure -- it seems like people were also living there, even if this wasn't a so-called traditional apartment complex. this is an artist enclave, a place where people, you know, create visual arts. and there was a celebration last night and at about 11:30 p.m. is when the first call came out. again, we're talking about nine confirmed fatalities, and as many as 25 people who are unaccounted for. >> tragic situation in oakland, thank you so much, dan simon. still to come, it has been nearly a month since the
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if you have dry eyes, ask your doctor about xiidra. hello again, thank you so much for joining me i'm fredricka whitfield. president elect donald trump has talked about uniting the country. if a recent meeting between campaign aides is any indication, he has a lot of work to do. cnn's jake tapper sat down with trump campaign manager kellyanne conway and clinton campaign manager robby mook during an event at harvard university where the continued bitterness and resentiment was on full display. >> you referrwere taking issue donald trump said. the fake news disinformation out there, stories, there was a crazy story towards the end of the campaign in which the nypd was supposedly about to throw
hillary clinton and her whole gang in jail because of stuff found on anthony wiener that linked everybody to child sex trafficking. how much of a problem was this post factual election in your view? >> i think it 'twwas a huge problem. i think there's a lot of things we need to examine. you named one of them. congress has got to investigate what happened with russia here. we cannot have foreign aggressors i would argue intervening in our elections. we know that the russians were promulgating fake news through facebook and other outlets. this is with all due respect to kellyanne and her colleagues, this isn't personal. but, you know, steve bannon ran breitbart news which was notorious for pedaling stories. i'm not attacking him personally. they pedaled a lot of stories on that website that are just false. they're just not true. and that reinforced sexist, racist anti-semitic notions in
people. headlines that just make your -- you know, are shocking. and insulting and shouldn't be part of our public discourse. >> kellyanne. >> the biggest piece of fake news was that donald trump couldn't win. that was pedaled in the closing days. major newspapers, networks -- >> i never said he couldn't win, there was -- >> i didn't say you. i'm saying, particularly print stories, we have colleagues whom we all respect, some of who that are in this room that represent outlets. if you go back -- because we have them and you pull the whole front page. >> there's a lot of defeat -- >> unbelievable. that's fake. because it's based on things that just aren't true. they have no path, they have no ground game, she has more money, she can't possibly lose. of course, the growing narrative which i'm not going to -- the persistive narrative i'm not
going to repeat here. they boil down to donald trump takes the wings off of butterflies. america said there's a difference between what may offend me and what absolutely effects me. i'm going to vote to what effects me. >> all right, so for more on this, i'm joined by senior political analyst and senior editor at the atlantic ron brown stein. if this a microcosm of conversations across america. what does it say about leadership on both sides? >> first of all, the level of acrimony is extraordinary. four years ago, gloria borger and i moderated an equivalent panel. there isn't the overt clashes we saw. it reflects how deep the wounds are after this election. there are a number of extraordinary things about this campaign. it's the first campaign ever where we had a majority voters
expressing negative thoughts about both candidates. hillary clinton will win the popular votes by anyone who did not become -- >> two million. >> over 2.5 million at the moment. closing in on not only exceeding carter and kennedy and getting close to george bush in 2004 an election republicans talked about a decisive mandate. then you -- not only did so many of the clinton voters have an unfavorable view of trump, they viewed him as a bigot. you know, which goes beyond kind of having a political disagreement. so you have very deep fissures in the country. you have a candidate who mobilized his side of the line more effectively than hillary clinton who won fair and square by the rules of the electoral college but is facing skepticism from major parts of the country. >> that event included a round table among a larger group of aides from both sides. things got pretty ugly there.
listen. >> listen, you guys won. that's clear. you won the electoral college. -- >> that was the -- >> let's be honest don't act as if you have a popular mandate for your message. the fact of the matter is, more americans voted for hillary clinton than donald trump. so let's put it -- >> there was nothing that said the road to popular vote -- >> hey, we won, you don't have to respond. seriously? hold on. why is there no mandate? you lost 60 congressional seats since president obama got there. lost more than a dozen senators, a dozen governors, 1,000 state -- >> we're talking about this legislation. >> you said there's no mandate. >> all right, so you know this popular vote thing, you know, 2.5 million, you know, votes more that hillary clinton got. this does seem to bother president elect trump and his aides. will this continue to haunt his administration? >> i mean, certainly a good question of a mandate is important when you take office
that gives you how much capital you get to spend. it's more about the republican mandate in general. they have to ability now they control both ends of pennsylvania avenue do big things, they were talking today how they'll repeal obamacare when donald trump takes office. that's something they've been promising for years and years. they're finally going to do it. is it going to take effect immediately? it's going to be several years because they have to figure out how to replace it. they have a mandate to do it. they have the ability to do it. they have the votes to do it. but for a long -- we'll see democrats on the other side of the aisle say they don't have the mandate. you keep seeing appeals to get rid of the electoral college which is -- kind of -- yes, that's a great thing to say. that would take like 30 years to do because it would require a constitutional amendment to do
it it. >> real quick. >> getting rid of the electoral college would make the smaller states vote themselves less power. having a mandate is great, but republicans have the votes they're in the center. they have the ball the public is looking to them for answers. they will be the ones who will be judged over the next few years over the results they produce. >> thanks so much, appreciate it, good to see you. catch more from jake tapper's conversation with ke y kellyanne conway, the full interview airs tomorrow at 9:00 a.m. we'll be right back.
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deliberations in the murder trial of walter scott, shot and killed by a former north charleston, south carolina police officer who was active duty at the time. that will continue on monday after the jury could not come to a unanimous decision. michael slager is on trial for killing walter scott. but one juror is refusing to vote in favor of a conviction. writing a note to the judge saying, quote, i will not change my mind. end quote. authorities say slager initially pulled scott over for a taillight violation back in april. when the officer says scott then bolted from his car. graphic cell phone video from a witness shows slager shooting scott from behind as he runs away. cnn's boris sanchez is covering this trial for us and joining us now from charleston, south
carolina. what happens if the jury remains deadlocked after deliberations do resume on monday? >> reporter: yeah, fred at that point if they are still deadlocked the judge will likely do what he almost do yesterday and declare a mistrial. meaning this case will likely be retried yet again in a couple of weeks. it's something the judge tried to avoid several times yesterday. it started around 1:00 when the jury asked for testimony from the witness that shot that cell phone video that's now gone viral. about 12 minutes later, the jury then passed a note to the judge saying it's clear we'll likely not reach a consensus. the judge then issued what's known as an allen charge. telling the jury it was their duty to come up with a verdict. he sent them back into continued deliberations. that's a few hours later when we saw that note you're talking about from that one juror. one of three notes given to the judge. that note from the one juror said they could not in good conscious convict michael slager.
but on the same token, they added they could not look at walter scott's family in the eye and say that michael slager was innocent. so some clear inner turmoil in that one juror. the other two notes, both from the jury foreman. one of them saying it's just that one juror. the other people, the other 11 jurors are decided already and the they're hoping to move forward. the third note from the foreman, perhaps the most revealing saying the juror was having quote, issues. they were clearly having a very difficult time. we're not allowed behind those closed jury deliberation doors for good reason. you can imagine are all these notes there had to be a very emotional and heated debate. ultimately, the judge sent them back in because the jury said if perhaps they had some more clarification on certain laws they could come to a decision. eventually, they asked the judge if the trial could be postponed until monday morning, and he conceded, fred.
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welcome back. in the season finale of "parts unknown," anthony bore dane heads to rome to see how the architecture reflects a fascist past. >> it's not the city of light. that's paris, right? [ barking ] welcome to rome, the eternal city. if you're looking for rome of antiquity, the coliseum, you're not going to see any of that. you're going to hate this show, in fact, because this entire show was shot in rome that -- that people live in. brutalist rome. what do you think of this style of architecture? >> i think it's beautiful. it's essential. >> good food? i want to die here already. i was unaware of this phenomenon, this thing. if you're looking for
classically beautiful -- do you take it for granted, the coliseum? >> yeah, i don't even look at it. >> tell me about the highway of death. [ laughter ] >> this is not the show for you. >> interesting humor. when architecture speaks louder than words. tune in for the season finale, sunday at 9:00 p.m. meantime, at least 13 people killed in tennessee. a result of the horrendous wildfires that swept through pigeon forge and gatlinburg. authorities are still combing through rubble in the tourist areas. dozens of residents have been torn from their families and left with only a memory of what used to be home. cnn's paolo sandoval live from gatlinburg. what's the latest there? >> reporter: you know, if your home was lost in what is being considered here the worst fire in tennessee in over 100 years, then this is likely home. it's a sports complex that's adapted and serving as a shelter.
about 200 woke up here, displaced, wondering what will come next. everything happening quickly earlier this week. many of them are forced to pick up the pieces, and in some cases have high hopes of rebuilding. a few minutes ago we walked inside, spoke to some of the residents here at the shelter. and we spoke to a woman in particular describing what it was like as she was fleeing the forward-looking statements with her husband. and some of the pets that she considers family. >> all that was left. this was a two-story home. it was so burned that if you took what was left and -- you could put it in half a garbage dumpster. that's how hot that fire was. i'm talking these kind of crates -- they're gone. they're just melted beyond belief. >>. >> reporter: in spite of the loss of property, at least 13 sadly did not make it. there's an incredible amount of
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hello again, everyone, thank you very much for joining me. i'm fredricka whitfield. breaking news, at least nine dead, another 25 unaccounted for after a massive fire broke out at a warehouse party. this building is used as studio space by local artists. cnn's dan simon is on the scene. what more can you tell us after talking to the oakland fire chief a short time ago? >> reporter: well, hey, what a terrible situation here in oakland, california. you can see the fire trucks
still here on the scene. we've been told that we have nine fatalities, and there could be as many as 25 people who are unaccounted for. that's the latest from the oakland fire chief. you see some of the crews here on the scene. they actually can't really do a thorough search inside because the building is said to be structurally unsound. the flames just ravaged a good portion of it. and you see that fire crews here are assessing, trying to figure out the plan of attack in terms of how they're going to determine if in fact there are more bodies inside. this is what the oakland fire chief had to say a short time ago. >> there was some type of party that was going on here when the fire broke out. it's been a report that there's been between 50 to 100 people possibly that was in attendance at the fire. a group of individuals were able to escape. some of them have not -- were not able to esca