tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN December 9, 2016 5:00pm-6:01pm PST
when you talk to his supporters here what do they tell you that they like about president elect trump? >> because you know he's a -- domestic issue. his policy obviously america first. so pretty similar with something most of the chinese people's mind set. we only care about ourselves. >> thanks to alice for joining us. ac 360 starts now. >> good evening. another night, another stop in the so called thank you tour. as his cabinet picks continue to come in. cnn has learned giuliani was told this week he's not getting the job. official statement is giuliani removed himself from consideration. and the ceo of exxon mobile is also getting a look for secretary of state. but there's no final decision.
is donald trump striking a similar tone from what we've seen in these last few stops on this thank you tour? >> yeah i think so. some of the things we've heard today we've heard before talking about the need to respect the american flag, to bring more jobs back to the united states. at one point though something that was different here, he talked about education, as you know his education secretary, betsy devos is a michigan native. so he brought her up on the stage at one point and talked about the need to get rid of common core. then at one point a protester tried to interrupt what was going on. and as that protester was being taken out there were chances of lock her up and lock her up and we've heard those before in relation to hillary clinton. and i want you to listen to what donald trump said in response to those chants. >> we're going to reform our broken education system to put students and families first.
so importantly. this includes providing great education to students living in our inner cities. you know they talk about the forgotten man. the forgotten women. let me tell you, they are not so forgotten anymore by the way, in case you haven't noticed. they are still trying to figure it out the media. where did all these millions of people come from? i knew they were there. they just never had the incentive to go out and say i like this person. but boy, did they come out in big, big league number. our reform plan includes eliminating common core, bringing education local and providing school choice. we want every child, every single child. low income. we don't care where they are, where they live. every child in america to be
able to attend the public, private, charter, magnet or religious school that is right for them. choice. but to accomplish our goals for this country, government must stop listening to the special interests and start delivering for the national interest and for the people. have to. have to. it is time to deliver for you, the american people. our plan begins with bold reforms, to create millions and millions of of great paying jobs. i won michigan. [ cheers and applause ] and michigan hasn't been won for many, many years. long long time ago. and i felt i was going to win it. do you know when i felt i was actually going to win the whole
thing? so i didn't have michigan on our list of stops for that final day. and i did the speeches. i did six of them. it is a lot. i did three a day for a month. and these were big speeches. and we didn't need any entertainers to come and entertain. we didn't need anybody. packed house. thousands and thousands. but 9:00 in the morning i said let's go to michigan. i heard my opponent had scheduled michigan unexpectedly. it was like all of a sudden with president obama and michele and bill and hillary. and they are going to michigan. no, it's okay. no, forget it. that plays great before the election. now we don't care.
>> so there you have it. that was before the election. that was then. this is now. trump has made it very clear as you know he doesn't want to go after hillary clinton. he feels as though she's been hurt enough. and something else we heard rumblings of this before. he wished the crowd a merry christmas. he made it very clear that now is the time to tell people merry christmas. no longer do department stores have to say happy holidays. >> and any mention of rudy giuliani at all tonight? >> no mention of that. and we're not expecting to hear that tonight but i should tell you. this there is a number of people here who support rudy giuliani. they feel this is a man who was loyal to trump very very early on. as you know now rudy giuliani said he had a meeting with the trump team back on november 29th where he basically laid out that he was going to withdraw his name. that was basically a way of
saving face because it seemed as if his name really wasn't being seriously considered as of late for secretary of state. that really it was rex tillerson the exxon ceo really being considered and mitt romney. so this may have been a way of saving face but not really expecting to hear donald trump mention rudy giuliani. not here, not tonight. >> want some reaction from our panel with us tonight. phillip bump, kirsten power. jeffrey lord, christine quinn. and kayleigh mcenany. jeffrey what do you think happened with mayor giuliani? clearly he's someone who had been very very loyal to donald trump. donald trump prizes loyalty. we had been told early on he was a favorite among a lot of the staff. because of that loyalty. >> i have no idea.
but i will say this. i thought he was the next attorney general to the united states. i think jeff sessions is terrific. >> but i really did think that was the most obvious spot for him rather than the state department. apparently he was interested in that and this went so far and is now off the table. at some point presidents like to have outside advisors. the kitchen cabinet," as the phrase came to be in the jackson administration. and i think he'll probably approximate part of that. >> do you buy that there wasn't one cabinet position he was interested? >> reportedly he wasn't interested in ag. he set sights on the state department. and i suppose how loyal you were and how early you got in and he probably thought he had a very strong hand. and that he may have overplayed his hand in this case. maybe he just assumed that it would be his. look, i don't think donald trump really thought he was going to win. he has said that.
suddenly he did win and then he started to really seriously think about this. and what he discovered is there was a lot of people willing to talk to him and he had a big field of people to choose from and it seems rudy giuliani isn't the best for the job. >> the president elect is giving close look at ceo of exxon mobil as possible secretary of state. his name is rex tillerson. his name has not really been mentioned up until now. there's very public kind of try out period for a lot of people. >> it is definitely out of box. we first started hearing rumblings a week or two ago. but in the context of his other pick, i think it fits fairly neatly. a lot of folks in the business community. he's repeatedly said he thinks folks in the business community can demonstrate they know how to make money and can get things moving. and tillerman has been all the world and.
i will say i think it is interesting that that the rudy giuliani news in the context of what we just heard donald trump say about hillary clinton. is that there were some things very useful on the campaign trail that may be less useful now. that may be rudy giuliani. >> i agree with that. i was struck by that. and i think donald trump prizes loyalty, that it be given to him. i don't think he believes or sees loyalty as a reciprocal process here. you know, at all. and i think it was telling. glad he's leaving secretary clinton alone. but it underscores what a lot of us said during the election, that he was willing to say anything and do anything that helped get him elected. and i just find that a level of disingenuousness that is deeply troubling. >> pretty much any politician. >> ha, thank you. >> he doesn't have a lock on that. democrats do that -- same. >> i hope not every politician does that. i honestly do. but we're not talking a passing
comment. we're talking leading crowds of thousands in a chant of "lock her up." that's pretty double down. >> kelly, just in terms of secretary of state could you still like to see a mitt romney? someone for the business community? >> i don't want to see a mitt romney. i wanted rudy giuliani. i thought he was qualified. it wasn't his loyalty that made me want rudy giuliani. i had complete faith he would stand up to country likes saudi arabia and qatar. and i have complete faith in his toughness. rex tillerson i see a lot of attributes there. if he wants to make sure they are not dumping cheap goods in and, and i think rex tillerson is perfect. he's well versed in trade and economics. mitt romney, it is hard to wrap my head around him because the number one issue of the secretary of state is they have
to be committed to the issues of the president. and for mitt romney never to have gotten on board i don't see how he can be committed to his vision on the world stage. >> up next, donald trump has his eye on another billionaire for the inner circle. president of the goldman sachs. and we'll talk about that ahead. also we'll take you to another indiana factory owned by the same company as carrier where employees say they are hoping their jobs can be saved and asking donald trump to save 700 jobs there that he's never mentioned. at godaddy, our goal is to make you look awesome online.
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more picks by the trachx team. a transition official tells cnn the top choice for economic counsel is cohen. some critics wonder how that squares with donald trump's drain the swamp promise. he said this last night. >> i want people that made a fortune. because now they are negotiating with you. okay? it is no different than a great baseball player or a great golfer. i meern, we want the people that are -- and they are so proud to do it.
these people are giving up fortunes of income in order to make a dollar a year. >> with me again donald trump supporter jeffrey lord and robert reich world health organization's book saving capitalism for the many not the few" is just out on paperback. you heard the argument he's making. that putting successful people in the cabinet is smart toe do. because they have proved how to run an organization, get results. to a lot of people that sounds sensible. why isn't it that simple in your view? >> because it is not that simple. for the last 35 years, at least half of the american workforce has not had a raise and their jobs are becoming less and less secure. that is one reason they want to topple the establishment and go with donald trump. in other words the status quo in terms of american business and american finance. what big corporations and what wall street has done has in
effect hurt average american workers. and by filling his cabinet with billionaires and financers from wall street and big corporate people he's creating the same thing. >> what about that jeffrey lord? he's essentially sold himself as one thing but hiring all of these different people sends a different message. >> i find the fascination with the billionaires to be interesting. nobody complains when a president stocks their cabinet with lawyers or. the washington post reported a full two-thirds obama cabinet were ivy league graduates and i think 13 that went to either harvard or yale. nobody blinks, but suddenly when it is billionaires everybody is all concerned. these are job creators. people who go and build businesses. and that is exactly the kind of thing. with all due respect and i don't
mean this as a person sleight to secretary reich. ber not academics. they are not lawyers. they are business people. and i think secretary reich ought to give them a shot. >> there is some fundamental miss understanding what's happened for the last 35 years. donald trump remember, campaigned against wall street, against and again. we accused hillary clinton of being too close to wall street. he actually put right there in the center of his opposition to wall street a firm called goldman sachs. and what he's doing is not only putting a lot of goldman sachs and wall street people into his administration, but he is taking a position that is completely contrary to his notion of being the tribune, the voice of the forgotten worker in america. the forgotten worker in america is going to be even more forgotten now than that worker was before because all of the people he's putting in his cabinet are --
>> jeffrey, let me just to kind of show what secretary reich is talking about. some of the things drumpb said about goldman sachs on the campaign trail. let's just watch. >> hillary speaks in secret to goldman sachs, sharing a private position. then lies to you. cruz tells you about wall street or the big, bad bankers and this and that and all the stuff. he didn't put down on his personal financial disclosure form that he borrowed a million from citibank and goldman sachs. and now he's going to go after goldman sachs? doesn't work that way. they own him, folks. supposing they call up and say listen we'd like you to do this. we'd like -- he's going to do it. i know the guys at goels. they have total control over him. just like they have total control over hillary clinton. >> and jeffrey, now the president of goldman sachs is set to be named as director of the national economic counsel, just the latest from goldman
sachs. >> anderson, the most important person in all of this is the president of the united states. the person sitting in the oval office. all of these people work for him, not the other way around. which unfortunately i think the way it would have been if hillary clinton would have been president. he's in charge. they are going to be following his orders. his vision of monarchy. and i have not in the least of there any problem with their being there. -- his vision of america. >> i think that is frankly absurd. i've served in four national administrations. i was in the cabinet of bill clinton. i know how economic policies are made. a president gets advice. a president depends on advice. from the treasury department. the secretary of the treasury and also the head of the economic counsel and who are these people going to be for donald trump? they are both going to be from goldman sachs. >> i think of two things. essentially trump is gathering people who are in many ways like
himself and that is who voters voted for. there are people who are very accomplished financially. they have made a lot of money. they have run businesses. that's who donald trump is. and that's who voters voted for. and secondly, donald trump won. i understand, you know, your disagreement, your fundamental disagreement on issues and the selection. but he did win. and he has the ability and the right to surround himself with the people he wants. he doesn't have do. >> anderson of course he can surround himself with whoever he wants. that is not issue. the issue is he ran as a working class populist. he ran as someone who said look all of these big corporation, wall street, goldman sachs, these are basically shafted you. i am therefore going to be your voice. you have been forgotten for the last 35 years. i am going remember you. i'm going to give you voice and what does he do? he turns around and stabs the entire administration with the same people who have given no voice. basically forgotten the working
class. >> secretary reich, jefrd lord. thank you. >> we had to edit the interview. online ac 360.com we'll post it. up next our team is made some surprising claims for national security advisor pick michael flynn. this involves alleged arabic signs along the u.s. border. and more coaching means making tough choices.
retired army general michael flynn, tonight our k file team has uncovered a dubious comment made back in august of breitbart news daily. listen. >> i know from my friends in the border patrol in cbp that they -- there are countries. so there is radical islamist countries, state sponsored, that are cutting deals with mexican drug cartels
for what they call the lanes of entry into our country. and i have personal seen the photos of the signage. the signage along those paths that are in arabic. they are basically like waypoints along this paths as you come in. and it will rally like signs that like -- literally, in arabic. this way. move to this point. it is unbelievable. >> the border patrol has had no comment on the claim. jim sciutto joins us now with more. jim how has the trump transition team respond to these comments from flynn? >> they have made no comment. flynn has made no comment. the border patrol has made no comment either to. the response from the campaign
is we feel lucky to have him. >> and also the security briefings donald trump is supposed to be getting. >> he's not getting that frequently. as the briefing made for the president of the united states and made available for the president elect. it is daily. but president elect trump is only getting it on average about once a week. i am told that he did request a specific briefing regarding the threat from north korea. and also i should say that reince priebus has said closer to election day the frequency will go up. but so far he's outpaced by his vice president who's getting them about five or six days a week. >> and the cyber attacks. >> the white house has been under a enormous amount of pressure. we know our reporting is that there is no intelligence that shows not only russia hacked the election and intention was not just to interfere but possibly help swing the election to
trump. the president also under pressure from democrats. they have sent him a letter asking him to release more information to the public. i'm told they want this review to be done before inauguration day. and the white house says if that happens they may very well release more evidence to the public so they can see it and everybody else what's led them, the registration, to blame russia for these attacks! jim sciutto, thank you. and back with the panel cnn counterterrorism analyst phil muddy. and first of all these comments from lieutenant general flynn about seeing signs at the border in arabic guiding terrorists into the united states. there is no information to support that claim. does it concern you? a national security advisor who appears to be trafficking in fake news or conspiracy theories? >> it does, anderson. not only in terms of the history we've seen here. repeated tweets and involvement of his son in the transition
which proved to be an embarrassment for the vice president. within 24 months i will predict he's out of a job general flynn. not just because of what he says but look at the other people around the table at the meetings that he chairs. general mattis. seasoned professionals. college professors in the world of national circuit coursecurit. this is going to eat flynn's lunch. in comparison to the other people around the table, people he's supposed to supervisor in some sense he's going lose them in the next couple of years. >> but he had battlefield experience. >> that is not can question. the question is not where he came from. not whether he has experience in afghanistan where his e reputation was quite good among people i speak to every day. the question is when you look at a campaign for someone who's
supposed to show steally judgment in the face of threats from iran, north korea and russia. when you have that individual talking about random trafficking roots from terrorists along the mexican border. let me give you the traffic route anderson. go to san diego, california in a car. this is nuts. this is not national security. this is a clown show as i mentioned the other day. >> do you have other concerns. >> no. because mike flynn said he saw a sign in arabic. let's look at the facts. the article points out hezbollah has in fact aided the drug traffic across the border. congressman desantos came out and pointed to multiple reports that say terrorists have crossed the border. that was rated mostly true by --. the idea that there may be some arabic signs somewhere along the boarder and mike flynn pointed that out and said he saw a
picture of it. it is not beyond the realm of possibility that it exists. this is a three star general. the guy on the obama administration who said isis is a big deal. that is highly qualified person and i think people are being too dismissive of him. >> phil, what about that? >> the argument that it's not beyond the realm of possibility that something happened, that is the foundation for which we make a national security judgment? he alleged there was a factual argument to say that there was signs on the border about terrorists been directed by a foreign power. presumably he's been referred to iran. that is not a supposition. it is a statement. by a future national security advisor. i'm not interested in why something might be true. i want to know why a future national security advisor alleged a fact that can't be proven to be true at all.
>> you can't prove -- >> but he has trafficked in other. on this show in a brief appearance he talked about attempts to institute sharia law in texas in florida when he actually drilled down and look at the cases he's referring to, it really doesn't hold up. >> i think he's eliminated some nuance and he should be careful in how he tweets going forward if he's going point out that story, for instance. there is some facts to it. basically there was a law in florida voted by on the congress that saying you could not have foreign law come into the united states. that included sharia law. there was a little more nuance to it but the root of what he's saying is not a lie. he could serve himself to insert nuance into his tweets or not tweet at all but it is not to just make up lie zblls it is not nuance. and you could question whether such law is needed and that is a different conversation. but it said you can't have sharia law. >> -- [inaudible]. >> whatever.
that's not a nuance. >> it is. >> no it is not. he's saying they are getting it when -- >> -- >> the thing about this position though. that he is going to be in. i mean it is in terms of like the person who talks in my ear has to give me just facts. not, well i think this or i read this. it's got to be facts. and that is just the person who talks in my ear. so you want the person giving intelligence to the president to be nothing but the facts. >> come out and said basically you want someone in this role who's going to be a calming presence not somebody who's going to be excitable. and it was a criticism of this kind of behavior and look he talked about sharia law in his book as well. so it wasn't just this one incidence that sharia law is coming, whichs not. he also claimed there were democratic e-mails -- he tweeted about this -- proving there is a sex ring. you can't possibly say you
believe that is true. >> he was referring something entirely different than his son -- >> sex crimes against children. >> he was referring to a plane ride that donald trump has taken -- not that donald trump -- excuse me. bill clinton has been on a plane with jeffrey epistein and he had eliminated secret service -- >> -- >> -- a fact that happened and there are a lot -- >> the article was a made up news story about how the nypd was about to bust the clintons for being part of a ped feelia ring. and it was complete nonsense. and epistein's boss also does this on twitter. he would have won the popular vote but for millions of illegal votes which there is no factual evidence for. is not the case. and the bar is general flynn can't hold his position because he traffics in nonsense on twitter i think that bar is a double edged sword. >> one of the tribal rituals of washington d.c. is to take
somebody in a new administration and hang them up by their heels in public. i'm guessing here from all of this that general flynn is going to be the first. this will go on throughout the administration as throughout others burt lance was a friend of jimmy carter's got this treatment. this is kind of the way washington does it. now it is not helpful if you -- if the person in charge, if the person at the center of this is to the situation. i certainly will grant that. >> are you saying that he's being sort of -- questions being raised to him simply because he's the designated sacrificial lamb or is it actually justified in your opinion? >> this is the culture. it works this way. and they zero in on someone who's made statements or tweets in this case and go for the jugular and then the pressure builds to get that person to resign. and frankly it depends on the relationship with the president. >> i just don't -- i don't know
wha exactly what you are talking about. these are some pretty upsetting things that he's said. >> dangerous. >> and if you look at his book the way he speaks about muslims. you know, he raises the questions of why have no muslims won nobel prizes. he said well because in the sciences because they put all their faith in this 7th century text. and christians put their faith in a 6th century text i think. so he's really speaking of muslims in a way that is not good as well. and the fact they are using democrats of a sex ring with children is really outside the norm of what people say. >> the idea of donald trump choosing to receive national security briefings as opposed to every day. can you just talk about what is in those briefings? why they might actually be kind of important. i think that would be one of the coolest things about being president is you get to see all
the real stuff. you get to see the presidential daily brief. th that is fascinating. >> i don't know if it's cool. i used to review -- every day for years. and some of it was cool. some of it not so much. think of it through two lens, anderson. the first is tactical. you are homing in on an al qaeda or isis convguy in the current world. you want to talk to the president about the impact of a drone strike or impact on the isis organization. there are day to day updates the president needs to know about. then the second lens, strategic. where is the russian base going in europe. what's happened with the north korea missile program. there are two lens the president has to use to understand intelligence. but let me defend president elect trump on this one. different presidents receive different information in different ways. i think this is a question of whether president trump, president elect trump trusts intelligence. not a question of whether he
receives a briefing once a week or juanonce a day. >> we got to leave it there. appreciate your joining us and everyone on the panel. just ahead the 700 workers at care years sister plant. with layoffs looming they want to know if something can be done for them. martin savidge is talking to them. we'll be right back get 0.9% apr financing on is and gs l/certified models. exclusively at your lexus dealer.
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donald trump was in grand rapids, michigan, where he announced the chairman and ceo of was going to be in charm of his manufacturing counsel. >> i'm asking him to come up and head up our american manufacturing council. and he's agreed to do it. they will be tasked with finding ways to bring industry back to america. >> and meanwhile in other news today chuck jones, the union
leader saying he's been getting threatening messaging since calling donald trump a liar saying he's willing to work with donald trump to save more jobs in indiana. >> if he somehow, some way reached out to me, today, tomorrow, next week, next month and said hey, what can you guys, the steel workers here, do and work with me to try to save these jobs at rex nord carrier and u tech up in huntington. we'd be glad to sit down and talk with the man. he c heck, we're all going to disagree on things. if trump is sincere about keeping jobs in the country. and y'all have heard him many times loud and clear that's what his goal is. we'll sit down and work out something to keep these jobs here. . >> jones also had praised mr. trump for saving the 800 jobs
that he did. but as mr. jones pointed out the actual number is $800, not 1100 has trump initially claimed. tonight martin savidge shows us what's at stake with carrier's sister plant. >> i have no idea what i'm going to do with my life. i just pray that trump comes through and save ours jobs. >> this is u tech, two hours north of indianapolis. 700 people work here. it is owned by the same company that owns carrier. and back in february on the same day carrier announced its plans to move to mexico, employees her were told the same thing. it was devastating. >> those people worked their tails off for that company. they have given up a lot of family time, a lot of family time to be in there on saturdays and sundays. some of those employees have
been here for forty years. >> when trump announced a news he worked a deal with carrier, hopes soared the others were part of it. they were owned by the same company. but the answer was no. there would be no miracle here. >> we kind of came out on the floor and talk to people to let them know. because their hopes were u. it was like february all over again. >> the first layoffs are expected in march. >> we're all taking it a day at time and we're still going to work because we all have to work. >> of course my wife and i, we just built a brand new home. and so now i got to worry about that. and plus myself. i'm a diabetic. >> reporter: by the spring of 2018 the entire plant is expected to be closed. >> it is not just effecting us. it is affecting other companies here in town. and you know, the ball's been dropped on all this. >> huntington is no indianapolis, with a population
just over 17,000, the loss of 700 jobs will be felt by almost everyone in some way. >> while we're excited our friends and fellow hoosiers in indianapolis, it feels a little bit like we've been left out here. >> reporter: two kids in college two. more in high school. he says this is the third time he's lost a job that's moved to mexico. if he could, what would he say to the president elect? >> don't forget us, donald. please remember there are 700 jobs in huntington indiana that you never mentioned. and america is going to know that we are people too. >> the local newspaper, the indy star has done a recent survey, saying even with the 800 jobs saved here at the carrier plant, indiana is going to lose 2100 jobs over the next several months. it's beyond salary and beyond just taxpayers at the community.
beyond likes like at the local union hall showing up to wrap a gift for children that goes back fifty years. but this is the last year they are going to do it because rexnord is closing down and moving to mexico. and next christmas, they won't be able to do it. >> just ahead the first reality show when the presidency plans to keep his title of executive producer of "celebrity apprentice." more ahead. a post using the hashtag "#justrobbedthesafe" so, what are we supposed to think? switching to geico could save you a bunch of money on car insurance. excellent point.
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(vo) hurry, these offers end soon. get the best deals and the best network, only on verizon. trump senior adviser kellyanne conway today defended president-elect trump's decision to keep his executive producer credit on the nbc reality show, "celebrity apprentice." she compared it to president obama spending time golfing. >> were we so concerned about the hours and hours and hours spent on the golf course of the current president? i mean, presidents have a right to do things, in their spare time, or their leisure time, whether it's president obama or president donald trump, the idea that these men are going to be all work and nothing else, all the time, it's just unrealistic, because it's never happened in our lifetimes. >> when asked whether
president-elect trump will get a salary or any other profits from his "celebrity apprentice" trial, here's what conway said. >> i haven't discussed that with him directly. however, there are many options. he could do what he's going to do with his white house salary with the "celebrity apprentice," which is donate it to charity or refuse, decline to take it. >> he should be noted that president obama made millions off his books while he was in office, but as far as tv reality show producer for president, this is certainly new ground. randi kaye tonight on how we got here. >> reporter: in january 2004, the soon-to-be-hit show "the apprentice" began airing on nbc. the reality show offered a chance for contestants from around the world to come to new york city for what producer bhaurnmark burnett billed a as the ultimate job interview. contestants competed throughout the season with one goal in mine. a one-year, $250,000 contract to run one of donald trump's
companies. >> i'm looking for the apprentice. >> reporter: the business-oriented show was a chance for trump to try his hand at television, but more importantly, to tout his skills as a businessman and rock-solid negotiator. >> about 13 years ago, i was seriously in trouble. i was billions of dollars in debt, but i fought back and i won, bigly. i used my brain, i used my negotiating skills, and i worked it all out. >> reporter: on the campaign trail, he often talked about the show. i do a television show called "the apprentice" and it becomes one of the top shows on television. tremendously successful. and by the way, they wanted to renew me and i couldn't do it, because i was doing this. >> reporter: when the 15th season of "the apprentice" kicks off next month, actor-turned-politician arnold schwarzenegger will be the host. donald trump will stay on as executive producer, but it's unclear what will become of his signature line. >> you're fired. you're fired. you're fired. you're fired. >> reporter: after the first seven seasons, where everyday people competed, the producers
introduced "celebrity apprentice." stars battled it out, not for an apprenticeship, but to raise money for a charity of their choosing. big names like joan rivers, arsenio hall, dennis rodman, and gary busey all took part. >> the most deadly thing in the water, a shark forward. >> reporter: trump's children, eric, donald jr., and ivanka are also prominently featured on the show, making them instant celebrities. >> well done. >> reporter: but donald trump was always the star. in the board room, the show allowed trump to be trump. >> he tried to outthink me and nobody out-thinks me. >> i'm being truthful and i'll always be truthful. >> how stupid is that, right? >> reporter: no matter what donald trump said on the show, it was always memorable. >> do you think that i should comb my hair like him? >> reporter: and the viewers just kept coming back for more. >> who will succeed? and who will fail? and who will be "the
apprentice"? >> reporter: randi kaye, cnn, new york. >> and we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ if you've got the time welcome to the high life. ♪ we've got the beer ♪ miller beer let's just get a sandwich or something. "or something"? you don't just graduate from medical school, "or something." and we don't just pull smoked chicken, bake fresh foccacia and hand-slice avocado. there's nothing "or something" about it.