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36 days until he is unaugust rat rated. morning, alisyn. ivanka's role has not been decided and no formal decision for her or her husband. donald trump's family is going to play an outsized role in the white house. >> you call my people, you'll call me. it doesn't make any difference. we have no formal chain of command around here. >> reporter: donald trump's unconventional white house shaping up to be a family affair. trump's three oldest children all sitting in on a meeting with the nation's top tech executives wednesday. some who openly supported hillary clinton. >> we want you to keep going with the incredible innovation. there's nobody like you in the world. in the world. nobody like the people in this room.
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and anything we can do to help this go along and we'll be there for you. >> reporter: kushner helped organized the meeting which the group says will happen quarterly. he will get an office in the west wing and an advisory role similar to the one he held throughout the campaign. ivanka is also expected to take on an active role, assuming some duties for the first lady. with aides planning to overhaul the traditional first office to the first lady turning it into the office of the first family. >> she's so strong and child care and so many things nobody could do better than her. >> reporter: as both donald jr. and eric take hand-on roles in their father's transition he was heavily involved in vetting candidates for the interior secretary position while eric was included in one meeting with mitt romney about the secretary of state job. the brothers also set to lead
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trump's businesses. raising red flags over potential conflicts of interest. but trump's camp argues it's all about transparency. >> conflicts of interest arise when you're not, when you're sneaky about it and not transparent about it. if you tell everyone, here's what's going on. here's the process and here are the people playing a role, that's being transparent. >> reporter: all of this as house democrats call into question trump's lease agreement with the u.s. government for his new hotel just blocks from the white house. >> all you've got to do is read the lease. it says, basically, if you are an elected official, you can't be a part of the lease, period. >> reporter: citing trump's lease which says no member of the government can share in any part of the agreement. now, the gsa says it's still premature to determine whether trump will in fact run but we know that trump's lawyers and position aides are trying to untangle this mess and we're hoping to get answers about that today when donald trump was slated to hold a press
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conference explaining how he would remove his business interest from his interest in the oval office but now that has been kicked to january. >> all right, sarah, stay with us. author of "how's your faith" david gregory and political anchor of spectrum news, errol louis. people who voted for trump knew how important his kids were. how big an issue is this? >> well, i think whether or not people think it is a problem is very different from whether it is a legal problem or it does, indeed, provoke a constitutional crisis. i think if you ask most people, i don't think most people have given it more than two seconds of thought. there is a huge problem. as we just saw with the trump hotel and that, believe me s the tip of the iceberg. the notion that you would have family members. members of the business empire that donald trump has built who are going to be leading it, according to his own statements meeting with heads of state, meeting with cabinet picks,
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meeting in conversations where they are setting policy that's going to affect the business empire, that is the very definition of a conflict of interest and no getting around it. >> let's look at the law, david gregory, in terms of nepotism. they say a public official may not appoint a relative unless that individual appointed employed, promoted or advanced if they are in violation, basically, they're not entitled to pay and money may not be paid from the treasury. is that how they're getting around nepotism laws? >> i don't know how the lawyers will come to some agreement. but i agree with errol. a couple points here. one is the president-elect has got to be thinking about the presidency. he's got to have respect for and reverence for the institution. he has to protect the presidency from self-dealing and corruption or compromises with foreign nations and foreign powers who may try to use some kind of
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business leverage to affect policy decisions. no president should be engaged in that. i think it's important that mr. trump have his son-in-law and his daughter, both of whom seem to be very close advisors to him whose guidance he relies on. he ought to be able to have that if that's something that's valuable to him. but he has to do it in a way that gets beyond the specter of self-dealing. that is what he criticized hillary clinton for in the campaign and bad for his role as president where he represents the people of the country. >> 31/10 is sticky when it comes to the law. born of the kennedy brothers being involved at the same time. little bit of it was political backlash. being free, being a volunteer, not running an agency. legally, is going to get most of the way where he wants to be. but this is about the ethical considerations and what errol is talking about the eventualities. can you really make a judgment now until you have an actual situation that comes up, like i
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guess the lease with the hotel. because until then, isn't it all just talk? >> it is all just talk. look, a lot of these things will appear bad. you know, it doesn't feel great to a lot of people to see eric trump sitting in a meeting for secretary of state or don jr. interviewing interior secretary. that feels a little weird. until you can draw a direct line to some beneficial, fls interest for the kids and for the trump organization, then, yeah, i think it will be a lot of chatter. but as others have pointed out, if you are the president you have a peak opportunity, especially donald trump when he has raen house and a republican senate to get things done in the first two years. so, the question is, do you want to use those two years to advance your legislative priorities or be having hearing after hearing where people are exploring your business interest. i do think that donald trump wants to be an effective president and what his aides are try explain to him, if you want to get a lot of things done,
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this is a way to throw a wrench into your plan. >> they are not coming out and having a press conference and really dealing with this in a very transparent way. i think they're looking at it they'll do it in january. i talked to a top republican lawyer who met with the president-elect and/or parts of his team and he said, look, the critical thing is is to sell the business. sell it to the children. you may not escape the criticism, but you could have a real severance between the president-elect and the actual business. >> you know, when ivanka trump was on "60 minutes" she said that she was not going to have any sort of role. let's remind everyone of that moment. >> people think that you're going to be part of the administration, ivanka. >> no. i'm going to be a daughter. >> things changed. >> things changed. she also happens to be married to somebody who wants to be part of the administration. if they're living in the east
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wing and working in the west wing, in what sense are you simply a daughter. >> it almost doesn't matter what their titles are. >> that exactly is their path out of this. stay in new york and be an adviser and get on the phone two hours a day and get most of what donald trump says he wants to get from his kids, their advice and their counsel. when you take it this further step and i don't think we have to wait and certainly we in the media are not going to wait to see a smoking gun evidence on a loan from the chinese. >> that was certainly not the standard that the republicans used with hillary clinton and the clinton foundation. they say -- even when there could be no direct line of pay for play, but it was all based on access. >> all things that happened while she was in office. you don't have that body of fact here yet. >> all right ivanka is in meetings with foreign leaders. if you're looking at just the appearance of impropriety. >> the appearance is awful.
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>> that's the standard. people think conflict of law sounds legal, it isn't. it's an ethical standard which means you have multiple interests and semblance of improprie impropriety, the smell test. >> the other thing that is interesting here and i was talking to somebody who was close to daunld truonald trump this is protecting his children. he can take the scrutiny and he understands where he has freedom legally under these conflict of interest laws, but he dozen want his kids to be dragged through the mud for the next four years. hard to see how you do that under this current situation. that's one of the other things they're grappling with. he doesn't want jared kushner or ivanka trump facing it. >> that's a very porbt point you just made. we'll talk about that more. i have seen that play out in real time. we can have a good conversation about it. also, we'll bring in sean spicer later in the show. head of rnc communications
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rumored to be perhaps the next press secretary. will he be transparent about that when he comes on? we're also following some breaking news right now from syria. evacuations are finally under way from eastern aleppo. what is supposed to be a new cease-fire for aleppo is barely holding as activists say regime forces fired upon ambulance convoys trying to evacuate trapped civilians. fred pleitgen is tracking the latest for us from beirut. what is the latest, fred? >> alisyn, monitoring that very closely and there are buses lining up at checkpoint cross between eastern and western aleppo to get some of those people out and bring them to safety. the first batch of 200 people that are going to be evacuatered the ones who are the most vulnerable. people who are wounded and people who are severely ill. people who need immediate medical attention. and, you're right, all of this comes after a cease-fire collapsed yesterday that now appears to be back on.
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all of that made very many people very afraid as bombs kept raining down on their heads. harrowing pictures of an orphanage in eastern aleppo with a lot of children inside who were subjected to that violence, as well. some people so afraid, alisyn, they posted good-bye messages. let's listen to some of those. >> to everyone who can hear me. we are here exposed to a genocide in the city of aleppo. this may be my last video. >> i am going to be killed. that's what's going to happen. i'm going to be killed. >> we didn't want anything else but freedom. i hope you can remember us. thank you very much. >> so, now, alisyn, we're waiting to see whether or not that evacuation will actually be followed through. whether the cessation of hostilities will hold and at the end of this process you'll see
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all the civilians and rebel fighters leave to other rebel held areas in syria and the syrian government, once again, will have full control over aleppo. chris? >> fred, as you know and you have been covering for us. it's so confusing on the ground when shots are fired at these ambulances and buses taking people out, you don't even know who they're coming from right now. we know you'll stay on it for us. thank you very much. let's take a quick break. donald trump's inauguration not the only date he has to set aside in january. a judge says he's going to have to sit through seven hours of legal questioning in connection with this civil suit with the celebrity chef. may sound like it doesn't have anything to do with government, but seven hours under oath. what can that mean? there is no typical day.
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>> president-elect trump says he will do what the law requires. but that should not be the minimum standard for president of the united states of america. of course, we should follow the letter of the law, but he should promote his spirit, as well. house democrats there
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concerned about president-elect trump's potential conflicts of interest. he said they're particularly concerned about trump's businesses and the role his children will play in his administration. we have david gregory and errol louis and executive editor of bloomberg view, tim o'brien. tim, when we talk about it, hard to get your mind around it. so vast and so many entanglements and we keep using the word potential conflicts of interest because nobody has connected the dots of some pay to play scheme. where do you even start? >> let's start with the tech summit yesterday. he had his three children sitting at the table. and jared kushner's brother runs a tech start up that services the federal government for health care. jared kushner is sitting in a meeting with tech executives. trump is saying we'll have you back to talk about policy quart quarterly. an unseemly mess.
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gotten to a point with the trump family where they're fairly flagrant about it. he was going to have a press conference to disclose the plan on where they were going to find the bright line that divided the trump financial interest from quality policymaking. ivanka is now moving into the white house where she said probably only a month ago she would play no role in the administration. i think trump has signaled that he's not going to do anything concrete to settle these issues and they're going to haunt his administration. >> now, by concrete, let's unpack what that means. there is no question that donald trump has conflicts of interest. that doesn't mean he's doing anything illegal. just a simple definition that he has multiple interests at play while he's going to have a duty to the public. >> correct. >> he does, by definition. so do his kids if they're involved with anything to do with the government. how you resolve that is where transparency comes in. sean spicer came on yesterday
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and he's going to be on this morning. the most transparent transition gets a lot of mocking from the media because today they were supposed to have a conference. these conflicts have to be exposed in light of what are the business realities? we just don't know. >> they haven't been really transparent. he still hasn't released his tax returns. llcs that are little opaque entities where he houses debt and income and we don't know the full extent of those. he's about to set off on a $1 trillion infrastructure spending program he says over the next decade. very easy for the trump children to set up little companies going to people who get work for roads and bridges and deprive the workers who voted for trump for change and jobs. those jobs, because the trump family is lining their pockets in the process. >> david, let's talk about this deposition that is scheduled for early january. there's a lawsuit between donald trump and jose andres who is a
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celebrity chef who pulled out affa trump hotel after trump made his comments about mexicans. jose andres is spanish. he tweeted this yesterday. "mr. trump, can we end our lawsuit and donate money to a veterans group to celebrate? why keep litigating? let's both of us win." is this all going to be settled momentarily? >> we saw that he settled the trump lawsuit case which was smart legal advice, smart thing to do. this is certainly a lawsuit that would get a lot of attention because jose is certainly a big name here in washington and around the world. and, right, the specter of the president of the united states sitting in a deposition. we saw that before with bill clinton becomes big news. particularly when you're, you know, you're facing examination
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by lawyers in a deposition, which may or may not be videotaped and may or may not be released. i would think they would want to clear the decks of this kind of thing. i don't think they want to have all these problems. i'm not sure they fully appreciate, as tim was just saying. how much of an issue this would become politically. it doesn't matter what the public thinks of this. members of congress and the media, i mean, everybody has an obligation to hold him accountable for potential conflicts of interest, actual conflicts of interest and potential self-dealing and corruption. these are things that have to be monitored. >> you have the conflicts and you have to see if they're self-dealing. there are some numbers out there. ins whether or not people care about their business relationships something that has been well chewed over. not concerned, concerned. not unusual numbers when it c e comes to things that could be offensive about donald trump. a second number may mean more,
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errol. where he is popularity wise right now. put that number up. that popularity is a driving force for donald trump. he wants people to like him in this role. split, not unusual given trump. look at that compared to everybody else at this time. his desire to please. we see it in who he is meeting with. could that be the pressure that gets him to do things that may not even be in his own interest. >> it's not just personal. we know enough about his personality that he does like the applause and he does like the spotlight. no, popularity is also the coin of the realm. if you want to go and try to get some kind of deal done on capitol hill with governors in your party or not in your party with other heads of state. they know how to read polls, too. if you're not popular, you come in with a weakened hand. folks know that and they're going to use that against him, as well. just to loop back to something that tim said and that you sort of pointed out. to the extent that trump doesn't
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disclose what his interests are it's like a full program for investigators to go out and find all the different things and all the different problems that could or actually are already in motion. >> and he sets his kids up to take the hit because people will come after them to try to get at them. he has to think about whether he wants to protect them or not. >> panel, thank you very much. what's your take? tweet us at newday. another stunning data breach. this time at yahoo!. it's the second one reported in three months for the internet giant. what does it mean for the 1 billion users who are impacted. are you ever safe online? we have some insight ahead.
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so, yahoo! is revealing another security breach more than 1 billion user accounts may have been compromised in 2013. phone numbers, birth dates and security questions among the stolen data. the company notifying those affected and requiring users to change their passwords. now, less than three months ago, yahoo! disclosed that data was
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stolen from at least 500 million accounts in a separate breach. the white house is now weighing in on russia's interference in the president. brushes off the house briefing on those cyberattacks. evan perez live from washington. what's going on there? >> chris, overnight the kremlin, again, dismissed claims that vladim vladimir putin ordered rushz intelligence to target hillary clinton's campaign. the accusations come from accusations simply making up horror stories. donald trump knew he was benefiting from the russian cyber hacks. here's white house spokesperson josh earnest. >> republican nominee himself calling on russia to hack his opponent. it might be an indication that he was obviously aware and concluded based on whatever facts or sources he was -- he had available to him that russia was involved.
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>> u.s. intelligence officials in october publicly blamed the russian government for hacks that were targeting mostly democratic party organizations. the u.s. says, "only russia's senior most officials could have authorized these activities." officials tell us this is a reference to vladimir putin himself. intelligence officials declined republican requests for a briefing today on the russian hacks. they say they're working to complete a report on the issue before president obama leaves office. in the meantime lindsey graham also said he was hacked by the russians. graham was a strong critic of donald trump during the 2016 campaign. >> absolutely. thank you so much, evan, for that reporting. china trying to make its territory in the south china sea. new satellite imagery that shows weapon systems have been installed on all seven of the islands built in the contested waters apparently to guard against incoming missiles.
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but says the disputed islands are in china's territory and any construction is "normal." obama administration says three quarters of all isis fighters have now been killed in battle by coalition forces. so, what does that say athe president's anti-terror strategy? is this the right time for donald trump to step in and change that course? we'll take a closer look at what we know, what is a guess and what is working when "new day" returns. at planters we know how to throw a remarkable holiday party. just serve classy snacks and be a gracious host, no matter who shows up. [cricket sound] richard. didn't think you were going to make it. hey sorry about last weekend, i don't know what got into me. well forgive and forget... kind of. i don't think so! do you like nuts?
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breaking overnight. attempted evacuations finally resuming from the eastern part of aleppo. remember, conservative estimates put the number at 50,000. 50,000 incidents are caught in a war zone. however, as they try to start these evacuations, there was fire directed at the civilians in these evacuation vehicles right in the middle of a devastated area. now, supposedly, there's a new cease-fire taking effect overnight, but the word is it's barely holding. with us is the counterterrorism
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expert. daved is a senior fellow at the center of democracies. good to have you with us. we're trying to get people to connect what's going on in syria, not simply just because, although it should be enough, that it's a humanitarian catastrophe, but real strategic and safety implications to the united states and other countries from what's going on there right now. i want to play you some sound that gives us context for the decision the u.s. has made to stay out. this is from president obama. most recently talking with fareed zakaria about why he did it. >> do you think it is an accomplishment of your presidency that you have substantially kept the united states out of the syrian civil war militarily? >> i think it is the smartest decision from a menu of bad options that were available to us. >> do you agree? >> well, if you look at what
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obama went on to say, i have a problem with the overall statement, but i don't disagree with avoiding intervention. what he went on to say is, yeah, we can't put 150,000 troops in syria like we did in iraq. the problem i have with that is that it's a complete of what the positions are. hillary clinton, for example, advocated and some people who are close to obama no-fly zone would be enforced in the northern part of syria and humanitarian corridors and overall given the difficulties of the syrian war and given how many sides there are and how many people want to target the united states and the very emorfs u.s. interest. i think he did make the right decision. >> you just mentioned something that is going to hit on a vast field. who is involved in fighting in syria. most people it is at best assad against those who want to be liberated from him. it's far more complex.
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we have a graphic and i want you to take us through how many different entities are taken place on the ground here. take us through the different parties. >> absolutely. to be clear, i helped your producer set this up yesterday and this is a simplified map. over in aleppo you have sunni rebels against assad's forces. it's not just assad's forces it's the iranian government as well as a lebanese militant group that is sponsored by iran. now, another area of concern is that the sunni rebels do have a significant jihadist contingent among their ranks including al qaeda over in aleppo. recently you had isis fighters attack israel and israel fought back and then that's on the assad versus the sunni rebel side of the equation. then, when you look over at the other side of the country, the eastern side of the country. you have the isis side of the equation. on the one hand in roqqa you
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have isis fighting against hastily assembled coalition. it includes the syrian democratic forces or the kurdish group which is also a group that is linked to the pkk. an anti-turkey kurdish group. in addition to the pressure on raqqa, you had the kurds and turks fighting each other. the final thing looking down to the south isis just retook from the russians and the syrian forces as they beat a hasty retreat. one reason they were able to do so is because of the focus on aleppo. this is a multi-sided conflict where you have basically the assad problem set and to defend the president's decision makes any intervention so dangerous. fighting each other in complex ways and a lot of people who would love to kill americans. >> so, the president decided, let's stay out of that because it's too much and we'll make gains against isis else where
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and thus comes their reckoning that they've killed a huge fraction of isis fighters. how can they know how many isis fighters they've killed or how many are left? >> the answer is that they don't. the u.s. intelligence estimates in my judgment have always been low. if you go back to 2014, u.s. intelligence was saying that there is between, some of the low-end estimates were 9,000. but the main stream estimates were about 18 to about 33,000 fighters. i have an article i'm on the record critiquing that figure back then and arguing that the numbers are much higher and i think what i wrote at the time has born out well because if you look at the number now, 50,000 being killed, which i think is roughly accurate. that would mean that they had destroyed isis's forces basically two times over. even though isis right now is collapsing. if they experienced that kind of attrition relative to their overall numbers they would be collapsing much more quickly than they rp. >> last point. is there something the u.s. could add to its strategy that
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would be a definite benefit going forward in the new administration? >> well, with respect to isis as the segment began, you know, there's a lot of damage being done to them right now. they lost 43% of their territory. on the verge of losing mosul which is in iraq which will leave them with just major capital. i think there's two things, though, that can be done going forward. one of them is isis is going to try to regroup and being able to keep pressure on and maintain counterterrorism cooperation is important. second thing is making sure that sunni don't basically reignite another major insurgency against iraq and, unfortunately, all the components are in place. the final thing i'll point out is that al qaeda during all of this staying relatively low key but still very dangerous and operating much more openly than ever before. batting back against al qaeda's new-found ability to operate openly is also important. >> daveed this stuff is complex.
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imagine living in memphis and paying hundreds of dollars of tickets to lubrain play and not only does he not only not play but he does not show. what happened? >> the cavs only play memphis once a year. this is arguably the grizzlies biggest home game of the season. this was the second half of a back-to-back. didn't even make the trip to memphis. fans upset about spending hundreds of dollars to not see lebron play. lebron, thanks for ruining my christmas. another said, michael jordan would have been here. at least the fans in memphis did get to see their team win. the nba and its players union reaching a tentative agreement on a new collective agreement. labor peace through the 2023/'24 season. with the new cba the league's
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closing arguments are getting under way this morning in the trial of dylann roof, the man accused of the mother emmanuel ime in south carolina. jurors heard heartpounding testimony from a woman who narrowly dodged death that terrible evening. nick valencia has the latest from charleston, south carolina. >> i had to do it because somebody had to do something because, you know, black people are killing black people every day. >> reporter: before his trial began dylann roof confessed saying he was willing to plead guilty to all charges on the condition that prosecutors removed the death penalty. they refused. in the closing week of the trial, prosecutors punctuating their case by painting roof as a cold blooded calculated killer, obsessed with white supremacy
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and hateful of blacks. they said roof hoped to start a race war when he walked into the church in charleston on june 17, 2015. he prayed with the bible study group for nearly an hour before removing a .45 caliber glock handgun and fatally shooting nine people. evidence presented by prosecutors include this video showing roof shooting target practice and parts of a 2,000-word manifesto calling black people stupid, inferior to whites and violent. he says the trayvon martin case triggered his decision to kill. saying no skin heads, no real kkk are taking action. someone must. "i guess that has to be me." the first witness brought to the stand was felicia sanders. a shooting survivor forced to take a break from accounting her gut wrenching testimony. the last witness polly shepherd describing how she hid under a table praying as bullet casings
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fell around her until roof told her he'd let her live to tell the horrific story. newly releaseded audio from her 911 call capturing the panic inside. >> there's so many people dead, i think. my god. >> you said there's so many people dead? >> i think they're dead. yes. >> reporter: roof listening expressionless and emotionless showing no remorse. the defense rested without calling a single witness to the stand. at the end of court yesterday roof's defense attorney did try to call two mental health experts to the stand but a judge denied that motion. a lot of drama surrounding roof's defense up until about two weeks ago. the 22-year-old said he wanted to represent himself. he, however, did an about face but for only for this portion of the trial. he is expected to represent himself during the sentencing phase. things here expected this morning to kick off at about 9:30 this morning.
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alisyn? >> all right, nick, thank you very much. we want to bring in senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin. it's emotional just to revisit this case and to hear it all, again. it's all just so horrible. >> you know, it's not a legal conclusion, but every time i think about this case, i think there is evil in the world and there's always going to be and that's what we're seeing here. i mean, it is difficult to imagine a situation of more pure evil on display. >> yeah. i know this is what you call an open and shut case. why are you so certain? >> you have a confession here. you have video. i mean, this is not a who done it. the only issue in this case is whether they will impose the death penalty. since you have what you call a death qualified jury where all the jurors have acknowledged in jury selection that they could impose the death penalty, they are not philosophically opposed to it.
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it's very hard for me to imagine any other resolution in this case. >> anything that takes -- dylann roof had tried to astloid death penalty himself. he said i'll plead guilty if you take the death penalty off the table and the prosecutors weren't willing to do that. anything that could come up during the penalty phase if he had some kind of trauma in his oak background that could spare him? >> there are a whole category of lawyers called mitigation specialists who specialize in presenting evidence in the death penalty phase about background. about trauma. about history that explains, if not excuses the conduct. at least at the moment it appears that dylann roof himself is going to defend himself during the penalty phase. so, i think that is a virtual guarantee of a death sentence. although, the one hope that defense always has in a death penalty case is that one person simply decides not to do it and
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in that case, you know, 11-1 for death is a life sentence. >> so, you know, there was this testimony from this woman, polly shepherd who survived because dylann roof told her that he wanted her to survive so that she could then tell the story of what happened. we have a little bit more of her chilling 911 call that i want to play. >> 911. what is the address of the address of the emergency? >> please emanuel church. >> emanuel church. >> he shot all the men in the church. please come right away. >> so, jeffrey, when the defense attorney called that woman to
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the stand, his name is david bruk, he said to her, i am so sorry. i have no questions. i mean -- >> you know, what could you say? lawyers despite evidence of the contrary are human beings, too. they recognize that, you know, how the power of this and david brock who is working as the defense lawyer is a very experienced, very accomplished death penalty lawyer. but, i mean, part of what's involved here when you're trying to save a client is you don't try to insult the jury's intelligence. you don't try to pretend that the facts are something that they're not. and i don't know if it's going to help dylann roof. i don't know if it should help dylann roof. >> i thought that that was so poignant and so telling that he felt for her and apologized to
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her. any human being would, even though he's tasked with, obviously, defending this person. you know, just one last thing i want to say because i was down there covering this right after it happened. dylann roof told police that he wanted to start a race war. and he ended up doing the opposite. you know, when we were down there we saw blacks and whites linking arms and holding hands and singing gospel songs and there is, you know, just a beautiful message in that. >> you know, and if you look at the behavior of the families of the victims and the aftermath there, they have behaved with a grace and courage that is really remarkable. and i don't want to say something positive to come out of this, but it is good to see people rising to the occasion. >> they are beacons of light that light the way for all of us. jeffrey toobin, thank you very much.
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we're following a lot of news this morning. let's get right to it. >> should do what every president has done. set up a true, qualified blind trust. >> everybody in this room has to like me at least a little bit. >> his son and his sons and his daughter. >> they will tie him in knots. >> i am going to be killed. that's what's going to happen. >> evacuations in aleppo finally under way. >> to everyone who can hear me, this may be my last video. >> many people now are being killed and no one can help them. >> the real world slapped me in the face on march 22nd. >> the martinez family wants the world to know what isis took from them. >> as i was looking away, daddy, don't you go. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. we do begin with the growing
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concerns over donald trump's family ties. the president-elect meeting silicon valley's titans of technology with his three grown children and his son-in-law also at the table. >> the trump white house looking more than ever like a family affair. we'll learn that the president-elect's daughter, ivanka, may have an office in the east wing with her husband, jared, possibly occupying the west wing. 36 days until donald trump is inaugurated but everything is already well in play. let's begin in new york with sara murray. sara? >> a spokeswoman says no final decisions have been made about the role of ivanka trump in the white house and it's true not what the official titles will be for ivanka trump or her husband, jared kushner. they appear to play a big role in the white house. >> you call my people, you'll call me. it doesn't make any difference. we have no formal chain of command around here.


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