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top of the hour. you're live in the cnn newsroom. i'm poppy harlow in new york. we begin with a dire warning from prominent republican senator john mccain, telling our jake tapper that russian hacks aimed at influencing the u.s. election threatened to, quote, destroy democracy. also, mccain saying the existing world order as we know it may be crumbling. >> what's happening here when we see the seizure of the ships, when we see the cyber attacks,
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when we see the dismemberment of syria, when we see the tragedies that are taking place there, which are heartbreaking, absolutely heartbreaking, while we sat by and watched all this happen, this is the sign of a possible unraveling of the world order that was established after world war ii, which has made one of the most peaceful periods in fact hthe history of the world. >> his comments come at a new wall street journal/nbc poll shows a great deal believe the russian hack influenced the election. 29% of republicans say the same. most americans do not believe the russian hacking, in fact, swayed the outcome of the election. tomorrow, as you well know, 538
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members of the electoral college meet formally to select the nation's next president. remember, those electors are not constitutionally bound to follow the will of the people they represent. meaning, the way you voted in the election and the way your state went, they don't have to vote that way, though they almost always do. some electoral college members they they're being pressured to go rogue and become so-called faithless electors. right now, president-elect trump is projected to have 306 electoral college votes. 270 are needed to win. i do want to begin with senator mccain's ominous warning. joining me is ben ferguson, host of the ben ferguson radio show, and a cnn political consultant and former staffer for then-senator hillary clinton. also an elector for the state of new york. thank you both for being here. >> good to be here. >> ben, i'll begin with you. you heard from senator mccain called for this morning in the interview with jake tapper, calling for a select committee to investigate the russian
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hacking. it is not just him. i mean, republican senator lindsey graham, chuck schumer and harry reed are expanding the call for an investigation. president-elect trump questioned the voracity of u.s. intelligence on the russian hacking investigation. he hasn't tweeted one negative thing about russian president vladimir putin. why do you think that is? >> i think there are two parts to this story. one is i think people on capitol hill understand how serious it is when any country hacks into this country. there is also the second part of this. that is, many people have tried to use this hack to somehow imply that donald trump was elected in a free and fair election. that somehow, russia hand picked him, chose him, to be the next president, which is absolutely not true. so i can understand -- >> who is making that assertion? >> well, a lot of democrats have. a lot of democrats. look around at how many people were saying, hillary clinton --
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obviously, donald trump was picked by vladimir putin. >> i'll have basel address that in a moment. my question is why the next president of the united states hasn't said one thing condemning the russian hacking effecting our democracy, politics aside. >> i think he saw the politics of this playing out. he understands that he is elected to be president. when he gets in there, i'm sure he is going to do whatever congress wants to do on this issue and investigate. he hasn't said it shouldn't be investigated. i don't think he was going to take the bait and somehow get into a match or political fight with democrats who are trying to imply he wasn't elected in a free and fair election. >> when he came out condemning china for stealing the u.s. drone and clearly talked about china, you don't think it is odd that he hasn't said a word about russia? >> that is odd. >> and evidence from the u.s. intelligence that they hacked. >> it is odd. >> i think it is odd that democrats come out, poppy, and act as if somehow russia hand picked donald trump to be the president, when the fact is, he won an election.
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hillary clinton lost an election. >> it's not an answer to my question. but i have to get basel in here. to you, basel. >> i answered the question. you don't like the answer. >> ben, come on, you come on the show all the time. let's move on. there is more to get to. this weekend, to ben's point, let's listen to what hillary clinton said about the hack and her personally. >> vladimir putin himself directed the covert cyber attacks against our electoral system, against our democracy, apparently because he has a personal beef against me. >> some critics pointed to that and said, look, she is suggesting the voting machines were hacked. there is no evidence of that. some see her as augusuggesting . broadly, they siee her pointinga finger at russia and saying, this is why i lost the election. not the fact that she didn't go to wisconsin once at all during the general, or these other
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issues. how do you see it? >> well, i think on the latter point, there's going to be a lot of finger pointing. there is going to be a lot of conversation about what the campaign should and should not have done. but the fact is, they're, you know -- those of us that are going to vote tomorrow as part of the electoral college are heartbroken about this. we will vote for her, particularly here in new york, but we know she didn't win. we are upset about it but we have to move on. there is evidence to suggest the russian hack came from the highest levels of the government. it did have an impact on the narrative of hillary clinton's campaign and candidacy going into the last few weeks and months. >> but to ben's point, are democrats using it, perhaps, too much, giving vladimir putin too much credit in the outcome of this election? >> i don't think they're giving him too much credit. but i also don't think they're making too much of -- or we're making too much of it.
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it is extraordinary that it seems this individual, vladimir putin, has -- doesn't like hillary clinton. that seems to be pretty clear. it is also clear that only the democratic e-mails were -- if the republican e-mails were hacked, we don't know or maybe we do. >> which the rnc said time and time again that they were not. >> that they weren't. but we do know the democratic e-mails were hacked, and they were released. there was a clear intention that -- >> here's the point. >> -- he wanted to disrupt what was happening on the democratic side. >> let me say this. >> listen to this, ben. you can answer after. listen to how reince priebus addressed this this morning when he was asked about it on fox news sunday. >> this whole thing is a spin job, and i think what the democrats ought to do is look in the mirror and face the reality that they lost the election and they lost the election because they're completely out of touch with the american people. they're still shell shocked and can't believe it.
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what is their response? recounts, russians, leaked cia reports. >> at the same time, as you know, guys, cia director put out this statement at the end of the week and said, look, i, the head of the fbi, the director of national intelligence, were all ontd sa on the same page of this, as to the scope and the intent. ben? >> i think the intent was to gain as much information as they could when they decided to hack in the dnc. probably, russia went after many other people many other times in the u.s. they may not have been successful. here's the part that i find face nating about hillary clinton's comments and other clinton supporters. the russians didn't write john podesta's e-mails. they didn't write e-mails that showed corruption, even though they were doing every they could to make sure bernie sanders didn't even get a fair shake in the primary. those e-mails -- >> that's not -- >> let me finish. the e-mails that hurt hillary clinton and hurt her on the
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issues of trustworthiness were 74% of democrats in the primaries who said they had an issue with clinton and trust. the e-mails were written by her own staffers and those around her campaign. the russians didn't do that. if hillary clinton is mad or democrats are mad, they should look at their own e-mails. >> i want to get back on topic here. this is the president-elect. whether you like it or whether you don't. this is also american democracy under attack by a foreign actor in russia, led by vladimir putin. that's what we're talking about here. not the politics of it. >> sure. and it is shameful -- >> there hasn't been one -- we should investigate this. that's why you have so many republicans on the hill lining up, saying, we should investigate this. this should be -- >> but is the president-elect saying that? >> instead of tweeting that, ben, because i and most of america agrees this should be investigated. instead of tweeting that or saying that, here is what the president-elect just tweeted within the last five minutes.
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if my many supporters acted and threatened people like those who lost te election are doing, they would be scorned and called terrible names. no one should be threatened for voting as they see fit, as they see their moral duty as an elector. why not tweet though about russia or condemn putin? or say, i'm on board with this select committee suggestiaugussm some of my fellow republicans? instead, why tweet this, ben? >> i think because what he just said was a valid point about the threatening that's happening of those that are going to cast their vote the way it went with donald trump winning. his point is, there is a double standard. i don't think donald trump has to tweet about every single issue when other -- >> but he does. >> -- republicans in his leadership are out there. they're going to come out in congress and investigate this. you also have not heard -- >> he tweeted during "saturday night live" and hasn't tweeted one thing condemning -- >> exactly.
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>> -- russian hacking. >> the one thing about donald trump is, donald trump is not going to tweet out every thing i want him to say or you want him to say or anyone else. people in his campaign said there should be an investigation into the russian hacking. >> listen, i want to go back to this point, the democratic party and democrats are not threatening -- >> there are a lot of people threatening. >> some electors have been threatened as of rosa flores' reporting. it has happened. >> quite frankly, people have called and asked me to change my vote. the party is not doing that. i want to be clear about that. that said, look, donald trump tweets about, as you said earlier, everything. the fact he has not tweeted about this, the fact that he hasn't talked about it is somewhat concerning to me. because even -- and it is not about democrats not accepting the final outcome. of course we are.
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as heartbroken as we were, there is an acceptance there. no question about it. if ronald reagan were alive, he wouldn't let this go quietly. i don't think donald trump should either. >> i have to leave it there. thank you very much. i appreciate it. next, we're focusing closely on the horror in syria. evacuations postponed for thousands of desperate civilians trapped in the syrian city of aleppo. we have a live report ahead. this holiday, the real gift isn't what's inside the box... it's what's inside the person who opens it. give your loved ones ancestrydna, the simple dna test that can tell them where they came from -by revealing their ethnic mix. it's a gift as original as they are. order now at ancestrydna.com.
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at least ten people are dead at a popular historic tourist
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site in jordan. officials in the country tonight calling it a terrorist attack. [ sirens ]. >> this is the middle of a gun battle between police in jordan and an unknown number of attackers who witnesses say opened fire on the police and visitors, including foreigners. at least one tourist, a woman from canada, we know was killed. this incident is not over. security forces are still clearing the area. they are unsure if any of the attackers are still there. officials don't know who is responsible or what their motivations are at this point. this is alarming because it is not a type of attack that is frequent in jordan. this is pretty rare. it is significant that the authorities are calling it a terrorist attackme. we are standing by for more details and will bring them as soon as we have them. in sire yria, where the humanitarian situation is worse by the hour.
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this is why the evacuation mission to get families and children out of aleppo is called off again. it is too dangerous, authorities say. in fact, somebody set a few of these evacuation busses today on fire. that means many people will be forced to sleep on the streets or in bombed out buildings or freezing for yet another night. syrian troops almost completely have retaken aleppo after four years of rebel control. but the civilians who once found safe haven there are caught in the middle of the fighting. let's go to the border of syria and turkey. you've spoken with some of the people who managed to escape, also speaking with some people still trapped inside aleppo. what are they facing tonight? >> well, poppy, the conditions are extremely difficult. it is a very cold night. below freezing in some cases. these are people who have nothing but the clothes on their back and maybe a blanket. they're sleeping outdoors in basically not just a war zone
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but a place that's been decimated by air strikes. and it is worth noting it is actually people on both sides that are starving. i mean, one of the reasons why this evacuation plan didn't go ahead today was because it was supposed to be a swap. there was a couple of towns that have been under a rebel siege. the civilians in those towns were supposed to be released as part of this agreement. they weren't released because the busses that were sent to collect them were set on fire. unfortunately, as this political and military game continues to play out and the sides continue to fight, you have civilians on both sides who are going through another night in the freezing cold, not knowing if they're going to have enough food tomorrow and not knowing if they'll be rescued tomorrow and get closer to safety. >> let's take a look at this picture. it is stunning. this is a little boy sitting among the ruins in aleppo, clutching a bag of stuffed animals. all alone. it's pictures like these that speech a thousand words.
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is aid able to get to these children, the children who need it most? if the evacuations are halted again, are the aid convoys reaching them? >> well, from what we understand, no, the aid convoys are not reaching into eastern aleppo. we know there have been attempts from foreign aid groups from turkey next door, other ngos, even the u.n. has been talking about it. no one at this point has been able to guarantee safe passage to humanitarian convoys to get to the eastern part of aleppo. those last few neighborhoods where the rebels are still holding out. it is a very precarious situation. look, these are people who have been bombed relentlessly for several weeks, several months now, in fact. they literally have nothing left. they've been talking about this for a long time. they could starve, they could freeze. there just isn't a safe humanitarian corridor established yet to get help to them. >> it is stunning. muhammad lila reporting from the
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border. go to cnn.com/impact for ways you the help. coming up, made in the usa. the president-elect wants companies like apple to bring their jobs and their factories back to this country, but what are you willing to spend on your new iphone to make that happen? we break it down next.
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president-elect donald trump has said he wants apple, for example, to start making iphones here in the united states. it sounds great. but what would it actually mean for you and for the cost of your iphone? frankly, would you be willing to pay up? our dan simon reports. >> apple, apple, apple. boycott apple. >> reporter: one of candidate trump's target on the campaign trail. >> boycott apple until they do it. boycott them. who cares? >> reporter: first, blasting the company for refusing to unlock an iphone belonging to one of the san bernardino shooters. >> give me a break. why wouldn't they want to do it? >> reporter: trump then turned his sights s to apple's overse manufacturing. saying this at campaign rallies. >> we'll have apple building their product in the united states. not in china, vietnam and all over. believe me, if i'm president, it's going to happen. >> reporter: analysts call that highly unlikely. for starters, consumers would probably pay a lot more for their next iphone.
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estimates vary but perhaps double the amount. an iphone 7 starting at $650 could go for $1300 or more. apple's top manufacturer is a taiwanese manufacturer, foxconn. workers are paid $700 a month to assemble iphones. in the u.s., workers would make a minimum of nearly $1,000 a month, double the wages of a chinese laborer, costs absorbed by consumers. >> the price of the iphone or whatever it is would go up exponentially. >> reporter: a technology analyst said any job gains would be eroded over time with robots, not people building the phones. >> at any job that has a lot of repetitive tasks, it is going to move toro b robotics over the n ten years. >> reporter: he says at least 80% of its raw supplies also come from overseas. which makes building an iphone in america seem even more impractical. >> they say apple, isn't it
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wonderful? they make everything outside. >> reporter: while trump told "time" magazine he challenged apple to build its biggest plant yet in the u.s. instead of china, the company points out its technology is directly responsible for widespread job creation in the u.s. from its engineers and retail employees to app developers. >> we've created 1.9 million jobs now in the united states. and we have tens of millions of customers who use our products. we work for them. and we love deeply our country. >> reporter: but trump's criticism may be having an impact. foxconn says it is in talks to expand its presence in the u.s. >> that was dan simon reporting. let's dig deeper on all of this in the big picture. betsy is with me, politics reporter for the daily beast. thanks for joining us. >> sure thing. >> let's listen to what tim cook, apple ceo, said about thi this issue when he was on "60
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minutes" last year. a big part of the reason is cost. another reason why a lot of their products are manufactured in china, he saids it has nothing to do with cheap labor. >> china put a focus on manufacturing in what we would call -- you and i would call vocational skills. you can take any tool and dye maker in the united states and put them in the room we're currently sitting in. in china, you would have to have multiple football fields. >> he's saying they have more of the talent that is needed for certain parts of manufacturing. does he have a point? >> i think it is a valid point, yeah. these questions of people having the skills necessary to do these particular jobs is certainly an issue here in the u.s. not just in terms of tool and dye questions, but overall in the science field. there are reports that one of the conversation topics that came up last week when that table full of tech leaders met with president trump was the question of stem education. are american students getting the science, technology,
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engineering education they need to compete on a global scale? the broad consensus is american kids aren't competitive in that sector. so, yeah, it certainly seems like cook has a point here. when it comes to the american work force, there are certain skills that just aren't here. >> or aren't here in droves as they are elsewhere. >> exactly. >> donald trump, as you know, on the -- i mean, this was his mantra. jobs, jobs, jobs, bring them back. go back to the old days. when you look at the actuality of the world we're living in, with automation, not just globalization but, you know, robots doing what we humans used to do, a recent report from the white house found workers that make right now less than $20 an hour have an 83% chance of losing their job to automation. how does any president battle with that reality? >> it is really tough. i think one of the biggest things you have to do, again, is focus on stem education so american kids will have the skills necessary to compete for
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these high-skill jobs. this competition with robotics isn't just a problem in the u.s. we actually see in some cases chinese workers losing jobs because of expanding robotics competition, for example. there is one -- one of foxconn's massive factories in china earlier this year eliminated upwards of 60,000 jobs because they brought in more robotics. those are workers getting paid something like perhaps $30 a day. even with wages that low, they can't compete with this growing automaization. a lot of the manufacturing jobs in the u.s., as there are manufacturing jobs available, they require much more developed skill sets. much more education. >> foxconn makes some of the parts of the iphone. there are rumors about whether or not they're going to actually open some facilities here. and create jobs here because of the deal that donald trump talked about last week with softbank. quickly reported on a fascinating piece. president-elect trump's pick of wilbur ross for commerce secretary. how does that jive with keeping
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jobs at home? >> you know, wilbur ross is an interesting case. his area of expertise is taking businesses that were bankrupt or on the brink and getting them to turn around and be competitive again. that said, wilbur ross is not an idealogical, america first type guy when it comes to his approach to business. he is, in some cases, one company he did a take over, a textile manufacturing company in north carolina, ended up having some jobs outsourced after he took that company over. workers who were left in north carolina at that factory who lost their jobs became eligible for trade adjustment assistance. federal aid that is available to american workers who lose their jobs to globalization. i don't think wilbur ross will be somebody who is idealogical about this in the same way trump is. of course, folks in the business community will see that as a good sign. >> he has been, before this, a proponent of tpp and free trade. he's on a different page than the president-elect on that front. we'll watch. thank you very much. >> sure thing. coming up, comedian and
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it's been a year since congress passed a spending bill to help pay for the medical expenses of 9/11 first responders. now, legendary comedian jon stewart is helping to get the word out. this is something he's been personally passionate about for a really long time. he held a facebook live event today at the 9/11 memorial m museum to raise awareness of the benefits available to first responders killed, their families, obviously, injured or sickened at ground zero. he wants to make them aware of what they're entitled to under the 9/11 health and compositienn act. sarah spoke to him and joins me now. this has been a long personal
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mission for him. >> why he is speaking out now is he believes there are 30,000 first responders and other people who came to help in our time of need who may not know that this is available to them now in their time of need. this is annual monitoring, doctors visits, prescriptions paid for, surgeries that are paid for and other treatments. for many of these suffering from ailments, it was because of the help they gave after 9/11. you're right, he is passionate about this. very involved in the fight to renew this act in 2015. it was a fight, according to him. he talked a lot about that today. take a listen. >> i mean, what was the frustration? >> not supposed to curse on cnn, right? >> well, you can. we have editing. >> you know, it was an exercise in being appalled. they'd literally have to chase down congress people in the hallways, and they would hide when they knew those guys were coming. you mean, it was outrageous.
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these are the same people tweeting out every year, never forget the heros of 9/11. what these guys witnessed down here was, you know, incomparable in terms of its madness and horror. you know, peace of mind is a big part of navigating these types of ailments and illnesses. veterans are the same position. so the idea that it was -- that they spend an incredible amount of energy and stress battling their own governments to prove -- i understand, look, everybody doesn't want to worry about waste, fraud and abuse, but let's shift the benefit of doubt in instances like this. >> some of the people there today talked about how without this help, they might not be here today. now, they do have -- this is now secure for the next 74 years.
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it was a 75-year renewal. very serious but, of course, he is the king of people who speak about serious things and also be funny. we talked about the beard he is growing. the letterman beard, using a contest with david letterman, who can grow more. i also asked if there was any job he'd take in a trump administration. he said, of course, no. but he is very happy with what he is doing, and he doesn't miss his show at all, poppy. >> we love, obviously, the new host, and we love him. keep making us laugh. thank you. we appreciate it very much. coming up next, hillary clinton supporters still struggling to come to grips with the election outcome and hoping for something that is, frankly, virtually impossible. >> how many of you, as you sit here today, think that something might happen before inauguration day to change the results?
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tomorrow it is big day for the electoral college. voters will meet in their representative states to make the outcome of the presidential election final. groups opposed to donald trump have been tryinggop ewelco electors not to vote for donald trump when they meet. it is beyond likely. "saturday night live" picked up on the theme, inspired by the holiday film "love actually." ♪ heavenly hosts sing hallelujah ♪ ♪ christ the savior is born ♪ christ the savior is born
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♪ silent night, holy night ♪ son of god, love's pure light ♪ ♪ radiant beams from thy holy face ♪ ♪ with the dawn of redeeming grace ♪ ♪ sleep in heaven ly peace ♪ ♪ sleep >> i love that. for those of us that went to sleep early and that is our first time seeing it, pretty funny. that is parody though. now to reality.
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alis alison csat down with clinton supporters holding out hope for an unrealistic surprise for tomorrow. >> how many of you think something might happen before inauguration day to change the results? what do you think, sonya in. >> i'm leaving it open. you just never know. >> anything is possible? >> just like i was laying there with my glass of wine, not expecting pennsylvania to go red. anything can happen. >> this is a surprising election. >> i'm hoping that, you know, somebody up there is looking down and saying, you know what? this is a law, and you can't break that law. you know -- >> what law? >> conflict of interest. well, the hamilton electors, i'm holding out hope for that. >> you're holding out hope the electors will change their
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minds? >> yes. i'm holding out hope that maybe five, six or seven of the republican electors will change their mind. >> just follow that line of logic for me. so the seven electors change their mind. that doesn't change the outcome. >> does it not? >> that's not enough. >> unless every single one of the democrats -- i mean, i'm not 100% sure. >> somebody educate me. i thought if ten of the republicans changed their minds -- >> you're thinking of the -- ten of the electoral college people asked for a briefing by the cia about the russian hacking and the russian involvement in swinging the election. we actually are 2.8 million votes ahead in the real vote, the vote of people voting all over the country. >> popular vote. >> i don't call it the popular vote. it is the vote. there is an electoral college
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vote. call that the other vote. >> this is how the founders set it up. we do abide by the electoral college. you don't have to like it. >> i'm excited about that. perhaps the electoral college will do what hamilton and the other founder fathers saw as the role of the electoral college, to keep a sociopath from gaining the office of president. >> if they don't reach the threshold, it goes to the house. >> are you pinning hope on that? >> there is in hope. i think he'll be sworn in. i think there is a big point here, which is that the electoral college, which donald trump won, is really an acreage game. we have this winner who won based on acreage, not population of this country. >> that doesn't speak to why the democrats didn't win pennsylvania, specifically. >> i'm not arguing that this is what happened. this is what happened. we should have run a better game against the acreage issue.
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you know, this is something we need to think about in terms of whether the electoral college serves our country when so many people live in urban areas or whether this is a completely outdated mode of election. >> for those clinton supporters to get their wish, 37 electors would need to switch their vote. that is just not likely. 99% of electors have voted as pledged throughout american history. as long as the electoral college has been in place. well, when the 538 electors cast their votes at noon tomorrow, it is projected donald trump will get 306 and clinton will get 232. one relelector resigned after saying he couldn't support donald trump. >> thank you for having me on. >> what is your reaction from your fellow electors? >> i am touched by the concerns they have. this is representative of basically half a country. you have a divided country.
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the type of discourse taken place was not conducive toward bringing the country together. i know that when i first initially spoke up, it was because i thought that the comments that were promoted by the candidate was not promoting the ideals of american exceptionalism, which i and others believe in, even on the republican side. which is the ideals of decency and civility. >> given that, each state has different rules. in your state of georgia, the rule is, if you don't show up tomorrow, which you plan not to do, you're just going to be replaced. you could have shown up and voted against him. you could have voted for clinton. you could have voted for, frankly, anyone else. instead, you chose not to. you chose to step aside. why? >> well, first of all, it is an honor and privilege for me because, certainly, i had the faith and the trust of the state executive committee and the chairman in this regard. i did not want to be a distraction on the republican party's message as we were going
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through the election season. what i noticed, in fact, many of our elected officials are running for re-election. they, too, were dragged down by the distraction of having to constantly defend the nominee at the top of the ticket. i didn't want to be that distraction on what we need to do, especially given the fact that i was sitting here in georgia. >> let's go back though to -- let's go back in history, to the federalist papers. let's go back to alexander hamilton writing about the electoral college. he wrote about the goal of the electoral college. to ensure that, quote, the office of the president will never fail to the lot of -- will never fall to the lot of any man who is not to an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications. the 12th amendment does not tie you to vote -- obligate you to vote one way or another. you took this pledge, right? did you wrestle internally with choosing to resign rather than
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to follow through and vote for whomever you see most fit to be the next commander in chief? >> right. one of the things i actually said was, you know, my conscious was clear but my soul was being tested. it was tested because as an american, this was not the way we should be carrying on the leadership of the country. so when i took that position, then it was an expression of my duties to serve in this body. and i will add that i know many of the electors within the state of georgia itself, and these are judicious, competent, patriotic americans. so we just happen to be on the different side of the fence from our democratic counterparts. and i trust that they're going to make the right decision. >> what is the right decision? >> the right decision comes down to the fact of, do we think that -- and this, i'd like to bring in the bigger picture. the electoral college was intended to be a safety valve for the american republic. and i would like to share to the
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folks who are concerned, the fact that we have to also look at the house and the senate and other elected leaders to be the ones who also speak out when they see misguided policies. for example -- >> are you saying you want to see it fall to the house? >> i'm sorry? >> are you saying you want to see the decision of the next president fall to the house? >> oh, no. i'm saying we've got different institutions in place that will put a check into the leadership. and i will say this, we just elected a president, not a king. so in this republic, we have other bodies, especially -- >> what is your message then for other republican electors? >> well, i think the message is, make your decision based on your conscious. if you really believe that this is the change we need, then we have to abide and, you know, go by your decision. so what we have is a very divided country. i think the role of all of us right now is to find a way, as president obama has said, and secretary clinton is saying, to actually find ways to bring the
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country together. anger is not a solution. >> okay. 20 seconds left. ten of your fellow electors, nine democrats and one republican, asked for an intelligence briefing on the russian hack before they vote or delay until they can get it. should they have that? >> no, i don't think so. i think we have to move on on this. the fact is, i am concerned about the we ve to go with the electoral college decision. >> i appreciate having you on. thanks for the perspective. >> thanks very much. coming up, ivanka trump and her husband house hunting in washington, d.c. where could they be moving? we went to look. at the marine mammal center, the environment is everything.
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and her husband among those reportedly on the hunt for a new home. >> reporter: with the incoming administration, the nation's capital is getting a boost of new megarich residents. each now on the hunt for a premiere washington address. ivanka trump and her husband are preparing to move to d.c. with their three young children. this past sunday they were out house shopping in georgetown. >> i'm incredibly proud to play a small role in debunking this characterture of cwhat a workin woman looks like. >> reporter: they could snatch up up with of the hottest listings in d.c. her jackie onassi mansion with a price tag of 8 million dollar. o something more in line with
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