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home, that's where there is an objection. that's where i think as technology moves on, that's what as a society we have to consider. >> are you in agreement? >> i agree with joey. just because a judge signs off on a warrant and says the judge believes there is probable cause doesn't necessarily mean amazon has to take it. r a and take it at face value. traditionally, search warrants were going into your home and looking around. the modern search warrant to amazon is saying, give us all your data and we'll decide what we think is relevant to a prosecution. >> thanks so much. joey and danny. >> more to come. >> this is the tip of the iceberg, huh? appreciate it. >> thanks. >> happy new year. >> and you. the next hour of the "cnn newsroom" starts right now. hello again. thank you so much for joining me. i'm fredricka whitfield. we're following the breaking news from the terror attack in
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turkey. one american was injured in the nightclub shooting in istanbul. in brand-new surveillance video, we see people fleeing the nightclub. the video was taken as the gunman entered a high profile club and opened fire. this is the other security footage showing the attacker. you see there, he opens up fire before entering the nightclub. a manhunt is now underway for the suspect. no group has claimed responsibility for the attack. cnn correspondent sarah sidner is joining me live from istanbul. what were authorities able to learn from the two different angles of video? >> they're not saying. they're keeping a lot of the information in their investigation quiet. though they have been saying they are on a very big man hundredtmanhunt, trying to find the perpetrator in this massacre. what we can see in looking through the videos, we can't tell if that is him going out or coming in. but we can tell that people can hear him firing off shots before you can see him come into frame.
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all of a sudden, you see theg gun firing over and over and other again. he doesn't hit people at first, but then aims his gun clearly at people very close to him. just a couple of feet away. we know two security guards and a police officer were shot and killed during this massacre. then the gunman was able to get inside and do even more damage. a total of 39 people so far killed in this attack. more than 60 people injured, including, as you mentioned, an american citizen. we do not know the status of that american citizen or many of the others who were injured who are from all over the world. just so you know, 25 of the 39 people who were killed are foreign nationals. fred? >> all right. sarah, do investigators feel like they can count on surveillance video from other businesses nearby? i know you described this area
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as one where there are a number of nightclubs. it is a very popular location. >> yeah. i mean, i'm sure they are looking around. we were trying to kind of see if there was some cameras on some of the other buildings. there are indeed cameras on some of these buildings. though they're not pointed directly across the street. they're pointed more right where people would be walking into those establishments. but i am sure, and i assure you they're looking at all that, trying to see if there is any other glimpse of this person, a close shot of the face, so they can use that then to try and track this person down. this city is so sick and tired of being attacked. they were attacked at least five times last year with many, many people dying in those attacks. one of them in a very popular shopping area. now, this. a place where people from all over the world used to come and look forward to coming, to have a good time, to go out and have
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a night out. couples, single people, east and west joined here. very much like istanbul. now, this is a place of mourning. we haveflowers and candles set outside in memory of the victims. >> terribly sad. all right. thank you so much. sarah sidner. here in the u.s., president-elect donald trump is saying he has insider knowledge about the cyber hack that led to sanctions against russia. at a new year's eve party at trump's mar-a-lago estate, he once again cast doubt on u.s. intel operations. >> i just want them to be sure. because it is a pretty serious charge, and i want them to be sure. if you look at the weapons of mass destruction, that was a disaster. and they were wrong. so i want them to be sure. i think it is unfair if they don't know. and i know a lot about hacking. and hacking is a very hard thing to prove. so it could be somebody else. >> let's go now to cnn's ryan
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nobles in washington. ryan, what more now from the statements from donald trump? >> well, it is clear, we don't know the approach that donald trump is going to take once he takes office as it relates to this hack. this despite a growing call from both republicans and democrats in congress that it needs to be looked into further. trump even went further last night at that event at mar-a-lago, suggesting that the united states government may be too reliant on technology when it comes to intelligence gathering. he suggested in some cases, the government should go a little more old school. take a listen. >> i also know things that other people don't know. and so they cannot be sure of this situation. >> like what do you know that other people don't know? >> you'll find out on tuesday or wednesday. >> so the president-elect there suggesting he knows more about this situation than some intelligence agencies. he even said perhaps computers shouldn't be used as much. and in some cases, key
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intelligence information should be written down on a piece of paper and delivered by courier. trump set to take off from his estate at mar-a-lago in palm beach, florida, and head back to new york for a busy week of meetings. there are still several key cabinet posts that he has yet to appoint, including ag secretary and others. this could be a busy week for donald trump as he starts off the new year in a busy fashion. >> right. ryan, we're seeing live figures now of the motorcade pulling up to the trump aircraft there in palm presumably, we'll see donald trump and melania trump board the plane before it makes its way back here to new york. we'll keep a close eye on things. thank you. >> thanks. north korea's kim jong-un sending a chilling new year's message that the test of an intercontinental ballistic
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missile is imminent. in a new year's speech, he says his country is making preparations to conduct the first test of the long-range missiles. it is a bold move, raising fears that north korea has strengthened its nuclear capabilities before donald trump's inauguration. >> kim jong-un chose his new year's day address to talk of a turn in bolstering national defense capacity. he talked yet again of the hydrogen bomb test, which we can't independently verify, and then he said this. >> translator: research and development of the cutting edge tech weapons are actively progressing and strengthening our defense capabilities, including last stage preparation of tests for inter continental ballistic rocket launch have been continuously succeeding. this will protect the destiny of the motherland. >> nobody knows if, at all, how
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close north korea is to test firing an intercontinental ballistic missile. but we know in february 2016, they launched a satellite into the sky, which many experts said could be a template for a long-range missile test. and so there was concern about the capacity north korea had and, of course, conducting its fifth and largest nuclear test on september 9th, 2016, which resulted in yet more sanctions. a few days ago, the highest level diplomatic defector from north to south korea told south korea media that as long as kim jong-un is in power, he'll continue with his nuclear ambitions. he'll try to finish his program by the end of 2017. this would seeming inglingly we
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the announcement that kim jong-un made. he also said in the speech his country sore e soared as a nucl military power in the east and no formidable enemy dare encroach upon them. seoul, south korea. >> we'll discuss kim jong-un's nuclear ambitions and defiant tone, plus the terror attacks in turkey. an american among the injured. jamie ruben joins us next. >> reporter: a . and president barack obama has an appointment this week on capitol hill. why he is making a last political push before leaving office. hold, per poligrip for because my dentures fit well. before those little pieces would get in between my dentures and my gum and it was uncomfortable. even well fitting dentures let in food particles. just a few dabs of super poligrip free is clinically proven to seal out more food particles so you're more comfortable and confident while you eat.
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welcome back. i'm frederiricka whitfield. from russia's hacking operations to the attack at istanbul's nightclub to north korea's imminent nuclear missile preparations, today is shaping up to be a busy year in foreign policy and sure to impact donald trump's incoming administration. earlier, i spoke with jamie cubcub ruben, on how the president-elect may be tackling these unsettling issues. >> i think the idea of islamic-based terrorism is certainly something that president-elect trump made clear zboing to is going to be his highest priority. fighting the islamic state in iraq and syria and wherever
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there is a threat. i'm not sure there is a lot more that can be done on the ground in iraq and syria without putting american ground troops. you may find there's less new policy to be made there. but where there is likely to be a real challenge to the united states is on the subject of north korea. because i don't think the north korean leader was exaggerating when he said this could be a big break through. if north korea developed an intercontinental range missile, meaning one that can go many thousands of miles and strike the united states, and had the technology to put a miniaturized nuclear weapon on that missile, that would be a threat to the united states that would be dramatic and anoon goalogous to russia tested theirs in the '50s. we don't want that dangerous man to be able to kill millions of americans. >> are you concerned this, too, may be an issue of believability
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for the incoming president? this week, donald trump is to have his intel briefing. the primary focus was going to be on russia, on this cyber war. but now clearly, north korea has to be at the top of the list. what are your worries or concerns based on the language donald trump has already used, casting doubt on intel? >> well, i think it is a good question to put the two together, north korea and russia. what you may be hearing is the difference between a businessman who spent a lot of time in court fighting off lawsuits, who talks about what you can prove in court. if the standard is what you can prove in court, then it is probably true that the united states intelligence agencies aren't 100% certain of many things that the president has to make a decision about. whether it's the north koreans getting an intercontinental range missile with nuclear weapons.
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i doubt we're going to be 100% sure until they actually launch the missile. but previous presidents understood if they tested a capability, if we knew that certain technology was being improved, they made judgments and made leaps of logic that a president normally respects. if you want to use the weapons of mass destruction in iraq standard, meaning a terrible mistake the intelligence community made because they had nobody on the ground, president trump is going to have a tough time doing any business. >> it is interesting because last night, the weapons of mass destruction, the failed intelligence on that, that was one of the examples that donald trump cited when at a new year's eve event last night. he said, you know, i also know things that other people don't know. you'll find out tuesday or wednesday, as it pertains to what kind of information he knows in light of russia. how concerning is it about the upcoming or lack thereof cooperation and respect between a new president and the
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intelligence guidance? >> well, i think it is always important to make sure that the president of the united states be an individual granted enormous power by our constitution and our system, the president really can launch a war, stop a war, make peace, do incredibly powerful and important things in our world. and if he is operating on false information, gut instinct, based on what he watches on tv or reads in the newspaper, without the confidence to work with our intelligence community, that is troubling. now, in the area of computers and hacking, donald trump may know some things that most people don't. but it is clear that the people who spend their lives doing this at the national security agency are confident that the people involved with the hack of the democratic national committee and hillary clinton's closest aides were the same people that have done things around the world that we know to be
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involved with the russians. but they don't know it the way you might in a court of law. again, if donald trump holds to that standard, what you can prove, he said, that's going to make life difficult. all we can hope for is that as the president is inaugurated, and the question of how he was elected is less and less important, he'll focus on the substance. and the substance is very worrying. russia poses grave dangers to the west, to our world, and we sure hope we have a president who is more interested in responding to those dangers and getting our allies together to work together against russia than someone who is so interested in the limelight that he would be more inclined to make a deal with a leader like putin over the heads of our friends and allies in europe. >> on the passing of information, president-elect trump, again, reiterated he's not big on e-mailing. of course, we know he is very handy and likes to lean on
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twitter. but he says in order to best pass on information and messages, it needs to be written down and perhaps even couriered. is he giving us a window into what he -- what potential changes he wants to see once he gets into the white house? how he has conversations with intel heads and chiefs? or even his own advisers? >> well, look, the president-elect is stating the onnio onnio obvio obvious. when osama bin laden wanted to hide from the world, he stopped using electronic communications and couriers were involved in passing on messages. it is good for donald trump to alert the public to the fact there is an inherent risk of privacy to e-mail when russia has spent so much time and energy, and china, so much time and energy learning how to spy on our computer systems.
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that's useful to remind the american public. but i just hope that it isn't a way of suggesting that because you never have 100% certainty of who the hacker is working for, or what number was used, that the president-elect won't accept the compelling evidence that as led 15 separate intelligence agencies to come together and declare that russia did something really unprecedented and risked, you know, a conflict with the united states. this was an act of provocation. it was an act of sabotage. i sure hope president-elect trump confronts mr. putin with these facts in getting our allies together. the difference between the united states and china and russia is that we have friends and allies around the world that are force multipliers, that are crucial to what makes the world
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safe for our people, for our businesses, that allows us to prosp prosper. allies are important. i sure hope the president-elect realizes that and acts accordingly. >> all right. jamie rubin, thanks so much. from london, happy new year. >> thank you very much. up next, we'll talk politics and donald trump saying he has information that others don't about the cyber attacks that led to sanction against russia. more on that conversation. is this setting up a political fight between capitol hill and the executive office? tomorrow's the day we'll play something besides video games. every day is a gift. especially for people with heart failure. but today there's entresto... a breakthrough medicine that can help make more tomorrows possible. tomorrow, i want to see teddy bait his first hook. in the largest heart failure study ever, entresto was proven to help more people stay alive and out of the hospital than a leading heart failure medicine.
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a vermont utility company says there is no indication its information or systems were hacked or compromised after malware linked to russian hackers was found on a company laptop. burlington electric says the malware found in their system was not unique, and there is no evidence of an attempt to tamper with the electric grid. cnn's jessica schneider is following this story for us and joins me now live. jessica? >> well, no evidence of hacking or any customer information being stolen but, of course, there's still concern and question about the malware found on this burlington electric laptop. this came to light after federal agencies sent out an alert
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thursday about malware found on the democratic national committee computers during the elections. something blamed on the russians. burlington electric found an internet address associated with that malware. it was communicating with a company laptop. the electric company isolated the computer, pulling it off the network and alerting federal authorities. the department of homeland security is now acknowledging it was, in fact, the same code used in malicious cyber activity the u.s. government blamed on russian hackers. so far, there is no further comment and no details on how or if this latest intrusion in vermont is tied to the russians. burlington electric says the computer was not tied to its grid control systems and they don't believe this was part of any effort to bring down the electric grid anyway. now, all the details in this are unfolding. it is part of an investigation. some lawmakers in vermont, including u.s. senator leahy, calling this a direct threat to
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vermont. >> jessica schmieder, thank you so much. despite the latest cyber security concerns, president-elect donald trump continues to cast doubts about russia's involvement in hacking the u.s. election. >> elwell, i just want them to sure. it is a serious charge and i want them to be sure. if you look at the weapons of mass destruction, that was a disaster. and they were wrong. and so i want them to be sure. i think it is unfair if they don't know. and i know a lot about hacking. and hacking is a very hard thing to prove. so it could be somebody else. >> trump went on to say he has information about the hacking that others don't. information he would reveal on, quote, tuesday or wednesday. all right. i'm joined now by republican strategist brian morganstern and political analyst ellis. interesting messages from donald trump last night about knowing things that others don't know. sending a message of defiance, if you will, too, that again, he continues to doubt u.s.
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intelligence. he is supposed to have briefings this week, not just with intel personnel, but intel chiefs. so what might that meeting be like, ellis? >> first of all, i know brian was surprised by that hack in vermont because he thought everyone in bernie sanders town was already off the grid, right? >> right. i didn't know you could hack coal burning stoves. >> but listen, no, this is just a continuation of a conversation we've been having about donald trump and technology now for many months. and you put the intelligence operation in there, itgetsmore complicated. to be the president, you kind of have to believe most of what you're told by top intelligence officials. they seem highly confident on this. if he has some secret evidence to the contrary, i'm surely itching to hear about it on tuesday or wednesday. >> this is making it complicated, as he embarks on a relationship that will come from the presidency with your intelligence agencies. these regular briefings, whether it is daily or whether it is three times a week, even how customized those briefings are
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going to be. is donald trump going to regret kind of this language as president-elect because the dynamic may be different once he is in the oval office? >> you know, i think the leaders in the intelligence community tend to be real pros. i think they can sort of rise above politics and kind of sweep those things to the side. and i think the point he was making is just, you know, show your work. show us the evidence. i know senator mccain is planning to have hearings on this and let the guys share with the american people what the evidence is. >> is it problematic when you have a good number of republicans on the hill, a number of those elected in office who are appreciating and believing this intelligence, and you've got the president-elect who is not? >> well, he's asking for proof. his press secretary was interviewed earlier and said he's going to have the briefings. we're going to hear the evidence. we're going to figure it out. it doesn't seem to be -- at least it doesn't strike me as trump saying, i don't believe these guys. it's, where the beef?
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show me what you've got. >> really? it sounds like he is saying, i don't believe the guys. but intelligence got it right when it came to osama bin laden, chinese hacking. but he's holding on to, they got it wrong for wmd and could be getting it wrong on this russian cyber war? >> guys, it is not an accident, what the topic is here. of the one thing that donald trump expressed, this extraordinary reluctance, oh, they were saying something bad about the russians. we need to be skeptical on it. this is not a dissing of the intelligence community. it is an embracing of vladimir putin. that's the lens to see this through. >> that's what makes it problematic potentially. there is almost this allegiance to protecting potential relationship between the united states and russia or protecting vladimir putin. that's an interesting message. 99 of 100 senators are saying, we want to see more sanctions. we want to see more take place against russia, retaliation.
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>> different approach than what we've seen. >> good word. >> but it is not the reset. like i was saying yesterday, with the hawks in the foreign relations committee, wanting to slap every sanctions on putin, the good cop and bad cop thing may have different results. putin seems to be eager to work with trump. fighting terrorism is a cause they can unite on. in terms of hacking, obviously, enemies foreign and domestic are trying to hack us every single day. the chinese among others. >> let's get back to the carrier pigeon. >> that's right. he doesn't trust e-mailing. he says, you know, let's write things down and do as he has done, use a courier. that doesn't seem like that's going to work when you're in the white house. >> because of trump's twitter activity, we all initially thought of him as a tech guy, but he doesn't use e-mail. >> twitter. >> he doesn't google, right? apparently, he has a 10-year-old son, and that's something that we all learn this stuff from
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kids. but compared to barack obama, who is fundamentally, 47 when he became the president, a techy guy, this is a different environment when it comes to technology. >> this is different. speaking of twitter, we know this has been, you know, a reliable accessory for donald trump. we saw president obama just within the past 24 hours using twitter to remind people of what he's done in the past eight years. it is very interesting that this president is saying in these last 19 days now, i'm not going to sit back. i'm going to use each of these days leading up to the swearing in. it is not just to remind people of what i've done but still continue on with some business, brian. >> yeah. he's not backing down. >> even if at the risk of the next president saying he is going to try to reverse everything. >> right. obama is running through the tape anyway. he, in fact, i guess he's lobbying congress. he is, as you said, tweeting out bits of his legacy. the fact remains though that he is a lame duck. we'll have a new president in a
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couple of weeks. so the reception for these efforts, at least on capitol hill especially among members elected campaigning against him, might be chilly. although, you know, i think the american people appreciate the effort of a president working hard through the tape anyway. >> uh-huh. swearing in, 19 days away. what are you envisioning when you think of what inauguration day will look like? >> i think it's going to be so dramatically different. put aside the fact that the new guy is already banging on the door 19 days early. i assume the first step is going to be revoke executive orders. the second step is figure out what some of the changes mean. one thing to say, i'm going to get rid of obamacare, but it is a more complicated issue to figure out what to put in its place. i think there will be quick, early, easy things and then the really hard work begins. >> those are the nirs ofirst orf business. he promises it to be a relatively short inauguration speech.
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he doesn't want people to stand in the cold too long. inauguration day, historically -- >> storms. >> another issue. historically, it is always freezing cold. >> yeah. >> but his message, how does he incorporate, how does he exude a message of unity, at the same time perhaps touching on all the promises that helped get him into this spot in the first place? >> the tone he's had since the election, or at least right after the election, of being gracious to hillary clinton who he defeated and having the sort of graceful transition with president obama, i'd expect more along those lines rather than haters and losers or language like that. >> happy new year to my enemies. >> to my many enemies throughout the world. >> love. >> yeah. so more of a gracious tone probably. i think the rockettes will put everyone in a good mood. it's cool they're performing. the nypd is sending great musicians to perform, as well.
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>> yeah. >> there will be nice performances. and a short speech makes everybody happy. that is the most -- brevity can be a unifying tactic. >> brian and ellis, see you soon. thank you, gentlemen. happy new year again. up next, u.s. secretary of state john kerry's parting shot to israel. what did it mean, and why didn't president obama give that speech? welcome. this is the chevy malibu. it was awarded "most dependable midsize car" by j.d. power. it looks great. wow! what is happening? oh my gosh, it's going up! but the malibu's not the only vehicle that was awarded. this is mind blowing. the chevy camaro, equinox, and silverado hd were awarded most dependable as well. this is extremely impressive. there's so many! doing it once, yea, great job, four times, obviously, they're doing something right. absolutely
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welcome back. this week, there was a clear parting shot from the obama administration to israel when u.s. secretary of state john kerry delivered this highly critical speech. >> the israeli prime minister publicly supports a two-state solution. but his current coalition is the most right wing in israeli history with an agenda driven by the most extreme elements. the result is that policies of this government, which the prime
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minister himself just described as more committed to settlements than any in israel's history, are leading in the opposite direction. they're leading towards one state. >> kerry's words drew immediate criticism. most notably from a key u.s. ally, great britain. british prime minister theresa may released a response saying, quote, it is not appropriate to attack the composition of a democratically elected ally. end quote. let's talk more about this. joined now by cnn global affairs analyst. good to see you. so you wrote an op-ed for in it, you say, i have to figure the president was content to allow the secretary of state to take the next hit, and given kerry's energizer bunny attempt to resolve the conflict, it was both natural and appropriate.
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given the president's views, is it intentional it is the secretary of state that would front this and potentially take the hits? >> i think, fred, and by the way, happy new year. >> happy new year. >> i think it is fair to say that when presidents attach their names to initiatives, the reagan initiative, the clinton parameters, it does carry a certain weight. you can argue the president's statement was the abstention in the u.n. security council and that secretary of state, having been the energizer bunny of american foreign policy on the american/palestinian issue, it was appropriate, given the fact he'd done most of the work and mediation in 2013/2014 and that he feels passionately about this. it was appropriate he be given an opportunity to frame the issue for the administration as it leaves town. >> do you think this was more a parting shot from the obama administration to the prime minister, benjamin netanyahu? the relationship has been prick i ca prickly.
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or does this, in large part, lay the groundwork for the incoming president? >> having written speeches for republican and democratic secretary of states on this issue, there is a logic in giving a speech. whether or not this was designed to tie the hands of the incoming administration, i doubt that. doubt it will succeed. whether it was a parting shot based on resentment and anger over the fact that the prime minister wasn't getting the memo on settlements. i think by and large, it was an effort on the part of this administration to frame the issue. because they understand what's coming, and what's coming either through inattention or acquiescence is probably the environment that'll make it almost impossible to have a serious conversation about a two-state solution. >> the obama administration tried hard to leave a list of this is what was done or achieved in the last eight years. so the president-elect also weighed in on this issue. this is what he had to say. >> well, i spoke to him
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yesterday. he's been very nice on the phone. we have a very good relationship. look, we have to protect israel. israel, to me, is very, very important. we have to protect israel. and i disagree with what he's done on israel. i listened to secretary kerry's speech. i think it is very unfair to israel, what happened. >> does this exemplify another bromance, seeming to emerge between trump and netanyahu, similar to what we've seen with trump and putin? >> you're coming off one of the most disfinysfunctional relatios between an american president and israeli prime minister. clearly, president-elect trump's indications, his statements, the appointment of mr. friedman, is an evidenffort to lay down a ma that there is going to be a fundamental break in style and tone. the real question, fred, i think is once governing replaces campaigning and you actually
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have a real presidency, whether or not realities, including the appointment of jim mattis, secretary of defense, rex tillerson, secretary of state, these men are more steeped in real politics. certainly, they know the realities within the arab world and i think mr. mattis knows israel, at least from a security point of view. i suspect there may be sobering of the president-elect's views when it comes to giving the israelis a greener or even yellow light. at the same time, i think it is fair to say there is going to be a fundamental break and improvement in this relationship between netanyahu and the incoming president, without a doubt. >> do you believe that still leads to the road of a two-state solution? >> i think the reality is the israeli/palestinian issue, sad and tragic as it may be, is not ready for primetime. you don't have the leadership on either side or the ownership.
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the gaps on the core issues and the mistrust. like rock and roll, the peace process may never die but it doesn't mean the two-state solution may survive. i think we're setting the stage for its demise. >> aaron david miller, thank you so much. good to see you. >> always a pleasure, fred. president barack obama trying to hold on to, among other things, obamacare. he's heading to capitol hill to meet with democrats this week. will they come up with a plan to stop republican efforts to dismantle his signature achievement? a look at the political fight coming up. eyes. same nose. same toughness. and since he's had moderate alzheimer's disease, the same never quit attitude. that's why i asked his doctor about once-a-day namzaric. (avo) namzaric is approved for moderate to severe alzheimer's disease in patients who are taking donepezil. it may improve cognition and overall function, and may slow the worsening of symptoms for a while. namzaric does not change the underlying disease progression. don't take if allergic to memantine, donepezil, piperidine
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this wednesday, president barack obama will meet with democrats in congress to protect his landmark piece of legislation, obamacare. some are calling this an effort to protect his legacy all together. at his new year's eve party at mar-a-lago, trump said obama's
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efforts may be in vain. >> well, he's president until january 20th. after that, it is our turn. so we'll see what happens. he's going to protect what he wants to do, and perhaps you can say, his legacy. but, you know, if you look at obamacare, you have in many cases over 100% increase, it is unaffordable. it doesn't work. >> obama could encounter a heated battle on capitol hill over what republicans want to repeal and replace. let's talk about this with our political panel. i want to bring back brian morganstern, a republican strategist. and republican strategist ellis. president obama sent out a tweet of many of his accomplishments over the last eight years. he has a meeting this week, mostly with dems on the hill. presumably to equip them with information. this is how you fight to help keep obamacare. then when you hear donald trump and some of his advisers, there
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are things in obamacare they want to maintain. so, you know, brian, what is the bats battle of how to make the decision of how to repeal or replace. there is evolution of thinking from donald trump's point of view, that maybe it won't be gutted as promised on the campaign trail? >> there are a few pieces that republicans have come around to. one is allowing children to stay on their parents' plan longer. and a version of the preexisting condition provision, where if you've been continually covered, then you will continue to be able to be covered. >> which are marquee components. >> they're important ones. but they are going to put in a new health care program because trump campaigned on it. he's appointed tom price, the author of one of the alternatives. and the composition of the senate, while republicans don't have a filibuster proof majority, they do have a whole
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bunch of democrats who are up for election in 2018 in states that trump won. so they are going to be motivated to work with the republicans so they can go back home and say, you know, look, identify been able to work with this administration, even though i am a democrat and you voted for trump. you should keep me in there. they have a motivation to work with the administration. >> ellis, will it prove to be more complicated than it sounds on the surface? >> well, the politics are easy. the policy is really dicey. you want to throw 20 million americans who have insurance today off the rolls, as we had before? are you going to look at the folks and say, you're not going to get medical care anymore? there is a reason throughout the entire life of obamacare, there was never a clear republican alternative. it gets complicated. the mandate which requires people to vin shurhave insuranct of what makes you finance the things that americans like. coming up with a plan that is economically sustainable is difficult. if they have one, i'd love to hear it. >> more than a dozen defeated
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votes on replacing it, repealing it. so why can it be an easy sell, that it is a matter of repackaging it and coming up with something better, if the attempt failed already? >> they had the namesake of obamacare in the white house. that made it awfully difficult. but some of the simple measures that have been campaigned upon by republicans for years include allowing -- opening up markets between states. that's something trump campaigned on. republicans across the board campaigned on. that's one thing. but having a cost structure that allows smaller and mid-market insurance companies to compete, which have been going out of business as a result of obamacare over the course of this administration, that'll be important. basically allowing more competition and making it a more consumer-based program rather than a government administered program. that will save people. >> what ends up being the answer to hospitals who expressed they're really worried that repealing this, making
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significant changes may mean it puts them out of business and makes it more difficult for them to be able to afford to take care of people who are receiving care as a result of this affordable care act? >> there is no easy answer. >> people were sicker than they thought but when you don't have insurance for a long time, that's what happened. you become more ill. >> when you dump people off insurance, mom takes the kid to the emergency room, which is a terrible way to get care. the simple answer is there is no good way to do it. we could go to single payer. donald trump used to speak highly of a single payer plan. give medicare to all americans. that'll be a solution. i don't think the republicans of congress are going in that direction. >> a lot is at stake for even donald trump. he made this promise. if he is not able to deliver, then there goes a lot of his support. >> right. but the -- it is a false choice. it's let people have health care or don't. that's not the choice. it is put in a different system.
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that's what tom price and speaker ryan and republicans proposed. there are plans that will be negotiated. we'll see a new one. >> lots of complications underway as we ring in the new year. thank you so much. appreciate it. >> happy new year. great being with you in new york. >> i know. good to be with you, too. appreciate it. we'll be right back. jeanette was excellent at marrying people. but had trouble getting paid. not a good time, jeanette. even worse. now i'm uncomfortable. but here's the good news, jeanette got quickbooks. send that invoice, jeanette. looks like they viewed it. and, ta-da! paid twice as fast. oh, she's an efficient officiant. way to grow, jeanette. get paid twice as fast. visit quickbooks-dot-com.
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welcome back. i'm fredricka whitfield in new york. so north carolina has a new governor today. cooper was sworn into office this morning. former governor, known for the bathroom bill, refused to concede for weeks after the election. even signed a bill before leaving office, stripping cooper of his executive power. cooper had a small win this week, hoping to take back some control. cnn has more. >> before he took office, cooper had taken several republican lawmakers to court. with this legal fight playing
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out, a key question, will the newly elected democratic governor will able to bridge the political divide in north carolina? >> do you, roy cooper, solemnly and sincerely swear -- >> reporter: roy cooper officially sworn in as north carolina's 75th governor, seconds after midnight. the private ceremony came after the governor-elect had a bitter battle moved into a courtroom on friday. cooper hoping to block republican-backed laws that limit his authority as the state's chief executive. 34 hours before governor cooper took office, a north carolina judge granted his request for a temporary restraining order, unlocking some of the laws calling for a shakeup of the board. a second law significantly decreases the number of political appointments the governor can make will take effect january 1st. though the governor-elect's attorneys say they'll file more
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challenges. a law professor believes the first few weeks in office will be challenging for cooper. >> early on, he'll try to establish his authority with the people in the state and remind the legislature he's there. he is the governor. he has some dispresentaticretio player in the system. >> reporter: limiting the new governor's power is the latest chapter in what was a highly contested race. ♪ don't you come back no more, no more, no more, no more ♪ >> reporter: cooper beat out his incumbent opponent by 10,000 votes. the outcome was challenged before eventually conceding four weeks later. last year, both sides blamed the other for failing to repeal north carolina's controversial bathroom bill. >> he may well want to talk to legislature about any possible revisions to the law, even if some kind of repeal isn't possible. compromise may be a big term that comes up fairly soon when
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he is governor. >> reporter: reaching the compromise may be harder with the legal fight just getting started. >> governor cooper's public inauguration is this week. it'll be a day after the civil case is back in court. >> polo sandoval, thank you so much. much more straight ahead in the newsroom with poppy harlow next.
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top of the hour. happy new year, everyone. i'm poppy harlow, live in new york. you're live in the "cnn newsroom." we begin with the first terror attack of 2017. brand-new video of what authorities believe is a lone gunman opening fire in a very crowded, jubilant istanbul nightclub. 39 people murdered there last night. a manhunt is underway for this man seen in the video. first, he shot a police officer, killing him. this officer who was guarding the club. then he walked inside, unleashing bullets, turning a lavish new year's celebration into a blood


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