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you're live in the cnn newsroom. two big stories we're covering tonight. one at home and the other abroad. president-elect donald trump saying he has inside information about attempting hacking. the russian hacking of the election and he will reveal it this week. while in turkey the new year was barely an hour old when a terror attack was unleashed in istanbul
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leaving almost 40 people dead. a city's celebration ending and mourning while man hunt ensues. we'll get to politics in a moment. we begin this hour with the first terror attack of 2017. brand new video of the man who opened fire inside of a crowded istanbul nightclub killing 39 people last night. right now a man hunt is under way for this person seen in the video. first he shot a police officer right outside he was guarding the front gate and walked inside and quickly unleashed fire on the party goers inside creating an absolute blood bath. club goers were panicked. some jump into the frigid waters trying to escape. we now know 69 people are hospitalized. among them was a u.s. citizen who was wounded. >> i got shot in the [ bleep ] leg. these crazy people came in shooting everything. i don't know.
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i saw one person. they're shooting. i'm hiding. >> no person, no group yet claiming responsibility for the attack. sara is in istanbul with the details. >> law enforce spent the entire first day of 2017 trying to track down a terrorist who massacred dozens of people and injured dozens more inside an upscale nightclub here in istanbul. police sources tell us this is the very moment a gunman blast his way into a new year's eve party at an upscale nightclub in istanbul. he kills a policeman and crowded security guard. the first hour of 2017 turned out to be the last hour of life for more than 30 people. >> i saw a blob coming outside. people were falling down. it was terrible thing.
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>> reporter: on this new year's day a father is forced to say good-bye to a child. a wife is left without a husband and friendships are ended with a single bullet. >> i'm feeling so sad. i can't understand. i can't talk. i can't explain my feelings. >> reporter: she didn't expect to find her missing friend here, in the morgue. 24 of the 39 killed were foreign nationals from all over the world. outside the club where the massacre happened in the first daylight there's a line of police along the sidewalk. we also heard from witnesses who came to the club to get their things. they said the scene was horrific. they were sure that they heard the gunman speaking in turkish. people were jumping into the water which is just over there. in the daylight you're seeing mourners leaving flowers and candles remembering the dead.
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some 75 minutes into 2017, hope for a less violent year dashed in a barrage of bullets. police have identified almost all of the victims who died in this attack. we know that an american has been injured in this attack. giving you some idea of the kinds of people that were here, you had every one from americans to israelis to saudi arabians all inside this club trying to enjoy a new year. poppy. >> thank you so much. meantime here in the united states the state department official tells that all 35 russian diplomats expelled under the new sanctions have left the country. thai had 72 hours until today to leave. this as the president-elect says he has new information about the alleged russian hacking of the
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election. here is what he said last night at his new year's party. >> i know a lot about hacking and hacking is a very hard thing to prove. it could be somebody else. i also know things that other people don't know. they cannot be sure of the situation. >> let's go to ryan nobles, joins us from washington. the president-elect said, we'll find out on tuesday or wednesday. what this information is. a, do we know anything about what's behind the timing and, also, will it be a press conference? what should we expect? >> we don't have any specific insight into exactly what he means by finding out more information about this on tuesday or wednesday. the best guess we have is that it is going to correlate with a high level intelligence briefing that the president-elect has scheduled for some time this week. it's at that point where trump is expected to get some more
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information about what the up te -- intelligence community has gathered in the hack of u.s. interests in the united states election and beyond. donald trump has been skeptical of what the intelligence community had to say about this incident from the beginning. at mar-a-lago, he said in the past, u.s. intelligence community has gotten things wrong and that's why he wants more information. take a listen. >> i just want them to be sure because it is a pretty serious charge. i want them to be sure. if you look at the weapons of mass destruction, that was a disaster. and they were wrong. so i want them to be sure. i think it is unfair if they don't know. >> so the question is how open will donald trump be to the information he receives in this intelligence briefing this week, and also, what will we learn from a high level hearing of the senate arms services committee on thursday. that's where high ranking
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officials will appear before congress, democrat and republican, and we expect them to get tough questions about the evidence they have gathered over these past couple of months, having to do with this hack. of course, poppy, keep in mind that there are leading republicans, not just democrats, leading republicans who agree with this assessment. this could be one of the big showdowns for the early days of the trump administration. >> right. republicans, you know, including lindsey graham, senator mccain, called for tougher sanctions against russia, and the trump team is asking whether these sanctions that have been laid down are proportional or not. we'll see what it leads to on capitol hill. thank you for the reporting, ryan. let's talk about this all with my panel joining me now. ryan lizza, political commentator. and ben ferguson, cnn political commentator and host of the ben ferguson show. happy new year, guys. >> happy new year, poppy. >> ben, let me begin with you. i'm sure you saw this interview of sean spicer this morning on abc in week speaking with
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jonathan karl about all of this. about russia. that's what the interview was about. he was asked twice, point-blank, if donald trump, the president-elect, believes it was indeed the russians behind this. he's what he said. >> what's the bottom line, a yes or no answer, does president-elect trump now accept the fact that russia was behind the dnc hack? or do you still have -- >> there is a report that came out the other day that was issued on the 29th that the intelligence community put out. while the media played it up as a report about the hacking, what it is, if you look through it -- and it is available online --isa a series of recommendations that -- >> does he accept russia is behind this? >> he has to have the briefing from the intelligence community. >> still not there yet? >> it is not a question of not there yet, jonathan. it's a question of getting the information. >> ben, to you. does it concern you that -- i mean, as you know, you can't feed the fact that the intelligence community has been
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incredibly clear with this. yet, you know, jonathan karl couldn't get a direct answer from sean spicer on it. >> i think sean's point here, and i think donald trump's point is this, they're going to make an assessment when he is sworn in as president of the united states and they'll going to deal appropriately with what they see fit. they're not going to sit there and be backed into a corner biba rack obama or anybody else when they haven't seen the full scope of the information. >> how is the president backing the president-elect into a corner? >> well, he's certainly tied his hands on the sanctions. does he have many options when he gets into office to all of a sudden undo them? when you kick diplomats out of the country, you're butting him in an awkward situation. >> -- said they don't do enough with the russia situation. now they do and it's backing them into the corner? >> the history of the last eight years, it is clear this president hansn't done enough. he did not do enough on aleppo, syria, crimea. >> we can and should debate owl
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a -- all of this. >> poppy, hold on. >> i'm talking about this situation. >> it's part of the answer. for him to come in here in the last 20 days he's in office, last 30 days and say, now i'm going to have this big move against russia, it is a little suspect. you didn't do it over the last eight years when people were dying at the hands of russia. they do a hack, we don't know the intent of the hack, we do not know if the intent of the hack was to sway the election or if russia was simply hedging their bets on finding out information about the leading candidate in the polls at the time, hillary clinton. so to say that now we should be celebrating this, i think it brings up something very problematic for the new coming in president of the united states of america. you put him in an awkward situation, all because you want to do something the last 25 days. >> as a point of fact here before i get to ryan, we know according to the intelligence agencies that, indeed, the intent was to impact and disrupt the electoral process. what we don't know is whether it had an impact or swayed the
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election. ryan lizza, to you. talking about this briefing that trump is going to get this week. the president-elect with the heads of all these major intel agencies. we're seven weeks after his election. now he is meeting with them, which is a good thing. but this is typically a meeting that's done much earlier. president obama when he was first i elected in 2008 met in chicago with all of the heads of the intelligence agencies just a few weeks in. is the timing of this, to you, odd, late? how do you think this impacts trump's relationship with the intel community moving forward? >> well, it's been pretty rocky since he was elected. he's been a little dismissive of the daily presidential briefing, which a lot of former intelligence people have said to me is the reason you have that presidential daily briefing is you're going to be making decisions, life and death decisions, about putting americans in harms way. unless you have a running dialogue or are asking questions every day, being briefed every day by your top intelligence
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people, you won't be able to make those decisions. so look, transition period is extremely busy. he's putting together a cabinet. he does have a lot going on. and we frankly don't know exactly how much intelligence he's been receiving. so let's give him the benefit of the doubt and say other things have gone on. >> right. >> i do think i'm of two minds about his skepticism about the intelligence. i would say as a journalist and someone who, like a lot of us, were burned by the bush administration and the facts leading up to the war in iraq and weapons of mass destruction, that we should all be skeptical when the intelligence community comes out with a consensus opinion. because as trump pointed out, they have been wrong in the past. >> mm-hmm. >> let's grant him there is nothing wrong with being skeptical. what is more worrying, if it is beyond a healthy skepticism and he sees this -- he's so wedded to this reset of relations with putin and, frankly, a very
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pro-putin disposition that he's had the last couple years, that he's ignoring the evidence. that's as bad as the intelligence community getting the evidence wrong. is a policymaker ignoring the clear evidence of harm to the united states. i want to respond to one of the things ben said. i take ben's point about how some people think obama wasn't aggressive enough in the trouble spots ben pointed out. let's remember, the obama administration did respond to russia's interference in crimea and ukraine. it is one of the things that led to the deterioration of relationships between obama and putin. we put sanctions on russia. some tough ones that putin wants to get off. >> economic, tough economic sanctions. >> but there is a difference -- here's my thing. we didn't kick anybody out of the country. >> those situations, ben, were direct matters that concerned u.s. national interest. in other words, you could have a debate about whether we should have been tougher on crimea and ukraine but we didn't have
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troops there. no americans there. this was, if we believe the intelligence community, a direct attack on our democratic institutions. so i think that's what justifies -- >> gentlemen, i have to leave it there. you're both back with me at the bottom of the hour. sit tight. thank you very much. got to get a break in. ben ferguson and ryan lizza. up next, a new threat from north korea. a warning that a weapon that has the capability to strike the united states, is severe warning about that from kim jong-un. is there a reason pyongyang is speaking out fewer than three weeks before inauguration? also, kentucky voters helped put donald trump in the white house. we're going to give you an in-depth look at a fascinating piece about some of their concern about what happens to their obamacare now. that's just one fight awaiting lawmakers on capitol hill. tax reform, the supreme court and the wall. we'll talk about it all straight ahead. does your child need help with digestive balance?
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north korean leader kim jong-un announcing his country is close to testing a intercontinental ballistic missile that raises concern, needless to say, that north korea strengthened its nuclear capabilities. the u.s. state department today urging the world community to send a message to north korea that launching these types of missiles, of course, has consequences. joining me now, column list of the daily beast and author of
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nuclear showdown, north korea takes on the world. appreciate having you on. this typical rhetoric, we expect this from him. but last year, north korea did carry out two nuclear tests. and the concern now is, is there reason to take these words a bit more seriously, given where north korea has shown us they are at? >> certainly. they already have three launchers that can hit t lower 48 states. the knl 8 and knl 14. they may not be accurate and they can't put a nuclear warhead to them but they'll be able to do that in three or four years. it is a matter of time. they're making fast progress. they had 21, 22 missile tests last year. they're obviously learning a lot from all of this. >> why would kim jong-un say this? if, indeed, they are close to
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testing an intercontinental ballistic missile, the question i ask myself is, why does it behoove them to tell the world? >> great question. the answer is we don't know what his calculus is at this particular moment. we know they like to destabilize south korea and the united states, keep us off balance. basically, that's what he's doing. because he is challenging the administration. by the way, the white house actually told the trump transition team that north korea, kim jong-un, is our number one security threat. clearly, that's going to unnerve american policymakers when he says something like this. you know, exactly what his calculus is at this moment, no one actually knows. >> knowing what we know about him, about the man, i mean, you've written a book on this, you know this country inside and out and its leadership, is this an attempt, do you believe, gordon, to grasp the attention of the incoming president, of the president-elect? also, how do you think an incoming president-elect changes the calculus for north korea? >> when you have a new president come in, they always think they
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can do it better than the previous administration. so you're going to have new policies. i think kim jong-un in a sense wants to affect the way trump looks at him. remember, this is south korea politics, too. where you have the country right now in this impeachment crisis. and probably, he wants to send a message to seoul and to his allies, the progressives in the south korean political system. so there's a lot going on here, which we don't quite know. >> one point you make that i think is very important is that generally, the united states has known weeks before these tests are carried out because of what we can see aboveground. these testing facilities that are aboveground. that has changed, hasn't it? >> it certainly has changed. early last week, the analysis of satellite imagery said the north koreans have a new missile base. it is not a big thing with a big began t gantry that we can see. but they have a missile silo, meaning they can launch without warning. with the longest range launcher,
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it takes weeks to transport, assemble, fuel and test. we can destroy it while it is there on the ground. but with this missile silo, we can't do that. the first warning that we have that there is a test is that the bird is already in the air and it could be heading toward the united states. >> gordon, thank you very much. we'll be watching closely. >> than, poppy. coming up, a new year means new battles on capitol hill. >> i think health care will be better and cost less when obamacare is gone. >> just revealing obamacare, even though they have nothing to put in its place and saying they'll do it sometime down the road, will cause huge calamity. >> the challenges facing both parties in washington as the president-elect takes office. that's next. you're live in the "cnn newsroom." family road trip! fun! check engine. not fun! but, you've got hum.
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politicians on capitol hill getting ready in the new year for some pretty intense battles after donald trump takes office. republicans will start putting in motion an agenda many of them have dreamed about for eight years. manu raju takes a look at the republican to-do list. >> reporter: for the first time in nearly a dozen years, republicans will control all of washington and they're plotting
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an ambitious agenda on capitol hill. a sweeping re-write of the tax code. new infrastructure projects. a ninth streupreme court justic and the top goal, a reveal of president obama's signature item, obamacare. >> obamacare repeal resolution will be the first item up in the new year. >> reporter: but republican leaders privately acknowledge it won't be easy. especially repealing the health care law without a clear plan to replace it. and in the aftermath of surging enrollment numbers for obamacare. >> what happens to those 20 million people who have health insurance? are you going to just kick them off and suddenly, they don't have health insurance? >> reporter: next month, republicans will immediately try to pass a budget. a process that will allow them to repeal much of obamacare, including subsidies to buy health insurance and an expansion of medicaid. all on a party line vote in the
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senate. but some key aspects of the law cannot be repealed through the budget process. including prohibiting insurers from denying coverage to those with pre-existing conditions. and the mandate requiring people to purchase health insurance. conservatives determined to scrap the law are already warning of a revolt if president-elect donald trump accepts anything short of a full repeal. >> if he pursues amending obamacare, how would you respond? >> i'm not going to agree with that. >> reporter: the process to replace obamacare will be even tougher because republicans will need to overcome a senate filibuster. meaning, they'll need the support of at least eight democrats to enact a new health care law. but the new senate democratic leader, chuck schumer, is already warning that his party won't help the gop replace the law. >> just revealing obamacare, even though they have nothing to put in its place and saying
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they'll do it sometime down the road, will cause huge calamity. from one end of america to the other. they don't know what to do. they're like the dog that caught the bus. >> reporter: to ensure people don't lose their coverage, gop leaders say congress will effectively delay the repeal from taking effect until legislation is approved to replace the law. a process that could take years. >> there needs to be a reasonable transition period so people don't have the rug pulled out from under them. >> reporter: that approach is only bound to cause tension with top conservatives who want immediate action. >> look, i think health care will be better and cost less when obamacare is gone. why would we want to take three years to get rid of it? >> republican officials tell me rather than a comprehensive obamacare replacement, they're looking at a series of smaller bills they hope can win democratic support. aside from that, there is a cloud looming over reforming the
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tax code for corporations and individuals. that issue is expected to dominate action on the hill for much of next year. adding to that though, a slew of major confirmation fights, including trump's pick for the stream cou supreme court. you can see trump's agenda next year could be filled with huge accomplishments or get bogged down quickly in capital gridlock. manu raju, cnn. >> we'll debate it ahead and talk about what are areas where republicans and democrats could actually come together in 2017. that's next. does your child need help with digestive balance?
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passing an enormous infrastructure spending bill. let's talk about it with ryan lizza and washington correspondent for the new yorker. >> thank you, poppy. >> republicans have been clear about the fact they're going to do away with obamacare and do away with it quickly. there have been parts the president-elect has even said he would like to keep, like insurance for pre-existing conditions. people staying on their parents' health care until they're 26. how do you expect this fight to actually play out? >> yeah. i mean, those two policies you mentioned, very interesting. those are two policies that trump, after talking to obama, has said he's okay with keeping those. the trick here, of course, is those policies were part of a package that made it all work together. right? the insurance companies are one of the most powerful interest groups in america.
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they were influential when obamacare was going through congress. the only reason they were okay with those regulations that were consumer friendly was because the obama administration allowed the mandate, which forced everyone to buy their product, right? >> right. >> that was the political deal that got obama through congress. republicans have to figure out how to unwind that without shredding the system and hurting a lot of people who have insurance. they haven't figured it out yet. >> when you look at areas, and i think we have ben ferguson who we can bring on here, as well. ben, you with us? >> yup, i gotcha. >> you're late to the party but i'll let you answer this question. as a conservative, what issue do you see most likely for your fellow conservatives and republican -- and democrats, rather, to actually come together on and make progress on? >> i think, first, it's going to be on the issue of preexisting
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conditions. there seems to be a consensus among many republicans on the hill, also donald trump and his staff, about the issue of pre-existing conditions. i think that's one of the reasons why there are so many that are saying, look, there needs to be a replacing. but there are some parts of obamacare that we do need to keep in tact. that would be a prime example of where there would be a consensus or common ground here. look, i'm one of those that buys on the exchange. this year was a year where i bought on the exchange but it wasn't a good year. there's only one plan available for not only me but my family and my new child. they got rid of every other plan because they were losing so much money last year. there was only one company that was even offering a plan for my child. it is a bronze plan. we'll be out $13,300 before insurance kicks in if any one of us gets kick. it is a high deductible plan and costs a lot of money every month. more than $1,000 for the family. there does need to be a fix.
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but i think pre-existing conditions, if there is anywhere donald trump should be able to walk into a room with democrats on capitol hill and say, this part we need to keep, i think there should be a consensus on that issue. >> ryan, i want to touch on a few other quick issues with you. that is, things like the border wall that president-elect trump promised to build, or also tariffs, another thing that he has put out there. these are areas where some of his republican colleagues in congress are not on the same page with him on. how will that play out? >> well, those are big issues. on tariffs, you will find even democrats who will support some of trump's policies on trade. >> sure. >> i don't -- you know, i'd be surprised if this congress, considering how many free market oriented republicans will be in charge, will ever come around to tariffs. now, the president has ute l
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unilateral authority when it comes to that. we'll see. there are big, big differences between trump and the mainstream republicans on the hill over basic economic policy. you know, just speaking theoretically on immigration, if trump were more of the deal maker and less of the idealogical, the jury is out on that, potentially, you could see a very big immigration deal, where democrats went for very strict, very severe border security issues if republicans moved on what a lot of people now would call amnesty. some kind of pathway to citizenship. you know, the traditional immigration reform that's been talked about for the last decade. i wouldn't hold your breath, but if trump wanted to play deal maker, that's probably a deal sitting there waiting for him. >> i'm getting the wrap. i'm interested, do you think we're going to see the wall
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built in the president-elect's first term? >> i think yeah, probably in the first term, but not probably in the first year. i think he's got other things he wants to work on first. then he'll move forward with that. >> who pays for it? >> i think it is going to be interesting to see that question. i don't think mexico -- >> totally dodging my question. dodger! >> you're welcome. >> ben, thank you. i appreciate it. ryan, thank you. >> thanks, poppy. >> i'd stick on you if i can't have to get other stories in here. voters in coal country lined up behind donald trump and his promise to bring jobs back. but how will a trump presidency affect their government benefits? >> so this money is important to you? >> absolutely. absolutely. it is not a large amount, but it is enough to pay the bills. when heartburn hits, fight back fast with tums smoothies. it starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue. and neutralizes stomach acid at the source. ♪ tum -tum -tum -tum
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when president-elect trump take it is oath of office, the clock starts ticking on his campaign promises, including
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bringing back jobs to coal country and repealing obamacare. it won him the support of coal miners, the same people now worried their votes may end up hurting their health and their finances. miguel marquez reports. >> reporter: the coal laden hills of eastern kentucky. >> we're going to bring the coal industry back. >> reporter: trump country. a democrat and coal miner for 35 years initially supported hillary clinton. but -- >> i voted for trump. may be a mistake, but i heard him say he'd bring coal back. >> reporter: a mistake, maybe, because this man now suffers from black lung disease. >> from here to there, you see a difference in my breathing that close. >> reporter: he voted for trump to bring jobs back but now fears trump's promise to kill obamacare will also end his black lung benefits. >> when they eliminate the obamacare, they may eliminate
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all the black lung program. it may all be gone. don't matter how many years you got. >> reporter: three sentences in the affordable care act made it easier for victims of black lung to get monthly federal benefits if they worked 15 years or more in the mines. and if they died, the benefits automatically extended to their widows. >> i will be drawing $643.42. >> once a month? >> once a month. >> reporter: patty just got her first payment. her husband crawford, after 32 years in the mines, died in 2007. >> to say it, somebody you live with 45 years, go from a vibrant man to a child is very hard. >> reporter: getting the payment can also be difficult, even with the law. it took her three years. now, her black lung widow benefit, along with social security and a tiny $62 a month
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pension keeps her financially afloat. >> so this money is important to you? >> absolutely. absolutely. it's not a large amount, but it is enough to pay the bills. >> reporter: keeping up with the bills here, for many, a lifetime struggle. so trump's full throated promise of jobs was a powerful message. the unemployment rate here, 10.3%. more than twice the national average. >> this area has seen a terrific decline in the number of coal mining jobs in the last five years. those jobs tended to be high paying jobs. >> reporter: steven sanders represents miners applying for black lung benefits. as jobs evaporated, he says, obamacare pbenefits, more important than ever. >> president-elect trump promised people that he was going to restore mining jobs. i don't think he thought about what the affordable care act might mean to miners who are
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applying for black lung benefits. >> reporter: linda adams' husband tony died three years ago. she's now applying for black lung widow benefits. >> you supported donald trump for this election? >> i did. i did. >> but if obamacare goes away? >> if obamacare goes away, we're going to be in a world depression. >> reporter: today, adams devotes her life to helping others apply for benefits she hopes will survive even if obamacare is abolished. her enormous expectations now squarely on president trump. >> if he don't come across like he promised, he won't be there next time. not if i can help it. >> reporter: trump's future opposition already taking shape if jobs don't return and obamacare benefits vanish. miguel marquez, cnn, kentucky. >> miguel, thank you very much for that. coming up, they said rock and roll was a passing fad back in the '50s. tell that to legendary rock group chicago. i met with them in omaha,
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nebraska, on the final leg of their 49th tour. tonight, cnn traces the band's windy city roots all the way to the top of the charts. a preview is next.
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tonight, a new cnn film explores the more than 50 year history of the band chicago, which started as a rock band with horns in 1967 transformed throughout the years and still tours every year. i caught up with them on the final leg of their 49th tour. >> reporter: after 47 gold and platinum records, dozens of charting songs and more than 100 million albums sold -- ♪ i was walking down the street one day ♪ >> reporter: -- chicago, the legendary band is still rocking today. a brotherhood started with a handshake nearly 50 years ago. >> it was a handshake and a jam session. >> did you ever imagine the success?
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>> no. >> none of us did. >> to have this success for this long is unprecedented. >> guys, when was the pinch me moment? >> we're still having it. >> poppy, do you want to walk up on stage? >> yes. >> reporter: we caught up with chicago on the final leg of their tour in omaha, nebraska. >> omaha, how the hell are ya? >> it's a true band. a band of brothers. >> a band of brothers. >> yes. >> we would build these songs and build these albums together. and at some point, i realized, and i think we all realized, that music is indeed what we're going to be doing pretty much for the rest of our lives. ♪ i got no time for loving ♪ time is all you know >> i distinctly remember getting the first album in my hands. i was thinking that this is a lifetime achievement, you know. chicago transit authority, vinyl, double album. what could be better than this? >> this music has transcended
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time. it has no demographic. people are still coming in, the audience, young people that discover the music through their siblings or parents. it strikes a chord in them. people in the audience are 15 to 75, and they're all getting this on their level. they're celebrating this with us. ♪ you know our love was meant to be ♪ >> reporter: there have been ups and downs. band members have come and gone. but the glue that keeps them together, they say, is a musical democracy. >> it is a total family. it was like immediately, you feel like you're just, you know, one of the guys. they'd bring you in, and it is not like, you know, you have to be over there. or don't play too loud. you know. being a sax player, too, getting to play with these two guys right here, you know, it's the best horn section i've ever played with. talk about democracy, we're
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always talking about phrasing. talking about music. it is wide open. >> as the newest, youngest member of chicago, what is it that makes the decade not matter when it comes on the radio? >> it's become the back drop of millions of people's lives. when they come to the shows, they bring back those memories of where they were when they heard these songs before. i think that's why it is tra transcended and timeless. >> the music talent is amazing. transcends all ages. >> you can't find bands producing this kind of music today. this is it. >> reporter: the great jimi hendrix gave chicago advice they'd never forget. >> he said, pay it forward, share your gift. we did. >> we all lived in a little house under the hollywood freeway. each guy had a shelf in the medicine cabinet. each guy had a shelf in the
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refij rate r refrigera refrigerator. whoever took the last shower got the cold shower. >> i joined about 26 years ago. i actually saw the band when i was 16 years old. before the first album came out. and i couldn't believe my ears and eyes. i mean, it was the best band i'd ever seen in my then 16 years. and i laugh glissaing flapinglye said you'd be the drummer, i'd say, yeah, and i'm napoleon. i wouldn't have believed it. i'm still pinching myself. i really am, poppy. >> when i joined seven years ago, i tell the guys this often, that i waited a long time to be in a band where everybody gets a little bit of the spotlight and also supports the others at times. ♪ >> reporter: there have been decades more wild than others.
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like their years at caribou ranch. ♪ singing italian songs >> the caribou ranch happened to be very close to a college town. there's a ton of drugs. really good drugs. >> it ended up just kind of like being a party in the rockies. >> there was nothing else to do. chase elk. >> you could have chased elk. >> i initially fell in love with an elk. i got to the point where they started looking good. ♪ if you leave me now >> reporter: chicago was flying high, but then came their heartbreak. original guitarist terry kath died suddenly, accidentally shooting himself. >> that made us all -- pulled us short. we kind of didn't know what we were going to do. >> you've said that you are still working through terry's death. >> yes. >> decades later. >> i -- to be honest with you, i
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give terry a look every night when we play "saturday in the park." ♪ another day >> there is a lyric that refers to him. ♪ a man playing guitar ♪ singing for a song >> i still dream about terry. >> he was like the musical leader of the band at the time. he would want us to stay together, as well. >> you loved him? >> mm-hmm. >> he was very lovable. >> reporter: they did, they say, what terry would have wanted. they stayed together and kept playing. >> please welcome, chicago! >> reporter: chicago has toured every single year of its existence. finally in 2016, the ultimate honor. >> it is my honor to final ly induct chicago into the rock and
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roll hall of fame. >> reporter: no sign these rockers are slowing down. not even for a second. >> i always contended that music, creating music keeps me in a child like state. >> yeah. >> it is not too bad. >> that's a good state to be in. >> yeah. >> we want it to be as organic as it started out being, and that's why we're still together. >> my thanks to the band so much for having us. i enjoyed meeting all of them. if you want to see more, watch tonight. in five minutes. "now more than ever, the history of the band chicago." 8:00 p.m. eastern right here. up next for us, an extremely generous act by a brave young man. that is our "in america."
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at a time of so much division in this country, there are also a lot of moments of unity all around us. we want to make sure you see those, as well, on this show. tonight, in "our america," how pizza is warming hearts in pennsylvania. josh has been a regular at mario's pizza in north hampton since he was a little kid. he's also battling stage two colon cancer and he'd just
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walked out of his eighth round of chemo therapy recently when he got good news. mario's pizza was giving away two large pizzas and soda every month for the next year. to his surprise, josh learned the pizza computer had picked his name out of a, basically, essentially digital hat. out of 1200 names, it was his. josh thought other people deserved it more so he donated his prize to the local food bank. >> i remember coming out of there thinking, i just won pizza for a year. that's cool. i'd been getting so much love and support. i just wanted to give back to other people that could use it more than i could. >> pretty great kid. the folks at mario's were so impressed, they decided to give two prizes. one for the food bank and one for josh. but josh says he may give that one away, too. thank you so much for being with us tonight. coming up next here on cnn, a documentary you will not want to
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wish. "now more than ever, the history of the band chicago." i'm poppy harlow in new york. happy new year and good night. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com

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