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conference set to happen in chicago, two women, who men who streamed this live attack on a special needs young man. we now know they all four will be charged with hate crimes. we will take that news conference live. but let's begin this hour with the remarkable day on capitol hill. -- an act president elect donald trump is not convinced is truth. hours ago the under secretary defense for intelligence, nsa chief and director of intelligence sat there and testified before the panel doubling down about october which indicated the russians at the highest level of government
including vladimir putin green lit the implication of democratic servers, now they are more confident than ever. >> we stand actually more resolutely on the strength of that statement that we made on the 7th of october. >> what's more here is spy agency chiefs expressed concern over trump's reaction so far to their work and impact on the workers who dedicate themselves to protecting us and our country. >> i don't want to lose good, motivated people who serve this nation because they feel like they're not generating for them. we don't question that for one minute the wide issues. >> we know clapper indicated a
report might be available to the public as early as next week. >> claims clapper the chief spy said the report would not only lay out what russia did but why, and james clapper said there's a mix of motivations that will be laid out in this report. he didn't specify what those moetd investigatio motivations are, but a desire of distrust, and belief in the intelligence in favor of donald trump and said that russia used a number of tactics to reach its goal. >> and so all of these other modes whether as rt, use of social media, fake news, they exercised all of those capabilities in addition to the hacking just the totality of
that effort not only as dni but as a citizen i think is of grave concern. >> and he says this effort by russia to push out fake news propaganda continues to this day and also sent a strong message in the wake of president elect trump assessment, clapper said there's a difference between healthy skepticism and dispar e disparageme disparagement. he will come "face to face" with donald trump as well as intelligence leaders about that high profile briefing about this comprehensive report that right now president obama is being briefed on. >> another piece from the intel briefing taking a spin donald trump is looking at possible ways to limit the power of director of national intelligence. sources close to the transition
team tells cnn the thinking between trump that the dni often gets in the way the agencies it represents and hours ago the director weighed in on whether or not indeed his department needs overhaul. >> there's always room for improvement. i would never say this is the ultimate. i do think it would be useful though if we are going to reform or change the dni or change cia that some attention be given to, in our case, the legislative under pinninpinnings that estab the dni in the first place, and then i've added additional functions and responsibilities over the years that the congress has added to our kit bag of duties. so, but to say that you know we
can't, there's not room for improveme improvement, i never suggest that >> let's go to evan perez, define overhaul. >> reporter: one thing you do is you take a look at the agencies, it employs about 18 hundreds, which is not big by government standards, but there are those who believe the agency needs to be reigned in a little bit. certainly we're told that is one of the views of lieutenant general michael flynn who is the incoming national security advisor to the president elect trump and we know he clashed a lot with the dni and james clapper himself, so perhaps some that is what's feeding that and once their team gets into place, they'll make a decision as to
whether or not there needs to be an overall, and there's also thought whether or not the cia needs to get back to building more human capabilities that during the obama administration at least this is the criticism of some services that they became too reliant on intelligent services from computers not human intelligence, i think right now these are ideas that they're looking at and expect this is the kind of thing that happens at every transition. >> thank you. let's have a bigger conversation. let's bring in john rizzo. he's author of company man 30 years of controversy and crisis in the cia. john, nice to have you on. >> thank you, brooke. >> when we were listening to this hearing today and you have
james clapper saying yes, there was a difference between having a healthy skepticism borrow rowing vice president elect pence's case. you have your ear to the ground with the intel community. what do you make of that response? >> well, i think james clapper is in the delicate position of the final days of his tenure. what i'm hearing brooke is first of all i was in cia myself for a very long time. people have to understand it is a very resillant organization. i myself served under seven presidents. these are career people. not political appointees in the work force so they will deal with any president who is elected in the oval office and be loyal to them. they're obviously not in it to
make a lot of money or fame, but to have their analysis valued by the president who is ultimately their number one consumer, so these sort of gratuitous sort of off the cuff call them sort of snide remarks, i don't know what the purpose is and it tends to be debilitating and corrosive so i'm concerned about that. >> how is that supposed to work to use your words corrosive words from a man who will be leading them in 15 days? >> believe me, i can personally attest, it is not -- is used to criticism and controversy. so, it's not going to go into a snit or a stonewall. >> sure, they're professional. >> yeah, and they will serve the president in the manner he wants
to serve. maybe this is overly optimistic it becomes his cia and his cia director and his attitude hopefully will change. >> one question that senator mccain asked the panel today is whether or not this hack and interfering on the election is seen as an attack on this country. how do you see it? >> well, it's certainly a hostile action against this country. >> constituting an act of war or is that taking it a step too far? >> well, i'm a lawyer so i may not go quite that far. >> that's why i'm asking you. [ laughter ] >> it is an act of serious provocation, certainly i was in the cia for 34 years. i never have seen anything like
this even during the cold war. this is a new and different kind of warfare. >> we do have actually -- weaver getting news, john, i'm so glad i'm talking to you right now, we have this transition of power alert. trump has selected retired indiana senator dan coates to serve on his term. >> john, your response to that selection? >> yeah, i have great respect for senator coates. he's a seasoned politician and my experience, brooke, over the years, that seasoned politicians a often the optimum kinds of people to lead the organizations.
i'll hark back to leon panetta. so i think this is a good pick. >> good, good, good. we kept hearing from the intel chiefs there's room for improvement with regard to cybersecurity. do you think there's a detriment to u.s. cybersecurity or the global perception for the top spy agency chiefs to publicly say that? >> no, look, the spy chiefs, spy agency serve the american people to be as candid and blunt without exposing methods, to demystify the whole spy lure. >> we know the president is getting briefed now, president elect trump getting briefed tomorrow and according to
general clapper some of the motivations of interference of putin. so maybe we'll have a date on tv next week, if you will have me back. 34 years in the cia, thank you. >> up, four people seen streaming live torturing a special needs person. they are going to be charged with hate crimes. police speaking live in matter of moments.
hate crimes, kidnapping, battery with the deadly weapon, some of the charges that have been filed against these four young individuals. police call sickening and it was streamed live as it was happening on facebook. police are giving a live conference and i promise we will bring it to you, first, context, we are just playing a clip, but
warning you it is very, very difficult to watch, an 18-year-old man with special needs in this corner of this room, bound, mouth taped shut. you hear the cries, he is cowering as his attackers two men and two women shout profanities about donald trump while kicking and punching this victim for 30 minutes and at one point you actually see one of his attackers take this blade and scalp him. ryan young, joey jackson, let me all say for all of us this is heinous and atrocious, i have run out of a jdjectives. walk us through it. >> most of us were wondering whether hate crimes would come down, that has happened and the
mugshots have come out and we are waiting to hear more, this young man has been missing since friday, there's a 48 hour gap we haven't filled in yet. two alert police officers in chicago found this man walking on the sidewalk and decided to render him aid. they took him to the hospital because it seemed like he was in distress and took hours to sort of figure out what happened to him and when you watch the video and see the video and watch his screams you can see what he went through on facebook live no matter, it was terrifying, and the police were able to build the case and hate crimes are coming, but people are angry throughout the city about exactly what happened. we know the police department is going to give us more details about this. two of the people are actually related. one of the men apparently may
have been a high school friend or went to school with the victim. so we're not sure how all of them got together but when you watch the video and see the chain of events it's disturbing. >> three 18-year-olds, one 23-year-old. the question is why and how, which we won't have answers to for a while, but the hate crime charge. >> yeah. >> how do you arrive with that? >> what happens, brooke, what investigators and what we see before our own eyes to piece it together is what motivated an action like this and them to of course broadcast it for everyone can see, was it motivated according to the hate crime statute, by race, that applies, any mental or physical disability or impairment so whether they did this because of race or whether they did this because of the special needs of this particular individual, the fact is it rises to the level of
a hate crime and make no mistake and the seriousness of the charges, when you look at the charges all of them that the prosecutor has filed, you are also looking at an aggravated kidnapping charge which means you abducted and restrained somebody against their will, that's punishable up to 30 years in jail. the charge of detaining this person, with the hate crime component, aggravated assault, and the scalping, it's deplorable, but the charges are swift and everyone can draw their own conclusions seem to be predicated on something which is of a hateful variety >> and we could mean in matter
abusing and scalping this young man. we bring you sherry runner, and nicole gonzález who wrote a book on chicago's court system. sherry, to you first in chicago i'm sure you like the rest of us in seeing the video had just a visceral reaction. how could these young people do such a thing? >> well, i think that's the question that we're going to have to find out as we listen to the chicago police report, but it is a horrific crime. any time someone would torture or target someone with special needs or disabilities and put it on facebook and think that it was amusing or that there was no consequence to it, it speaks to some kind of real mental
illness, i would imagine. >> nicole you heard the charges, kidnapping, hate crime, aggravated battery, deadly weapon. >> we know this was going to be charged as a hate crime and you hear the racial slurs, they're not only saying white they're also saying trump and the political climate the word trump became synonymous with hate and bigotry and there were 700 cases reported of hate crimes most of them being people of color so which is one really tragic case seeing a very vulner able victims and we are seeing hate crimes in the post election
climate. >> how could these communities handle how these young people are feeling in this climate? >> well, i think it's an interesting thing. this is a crime that occurred in chicago. it's obviously a hate-related crime and i think we have to really start to do some work not just in shig bchicago but natio to talk about what all of this race and bigotry is and what they are allowed to do under the current climate. >> thank you so much. again, we're watching and waiting to hear from chicago police as soon as they take to that podium, obviously we will take it live. up next president elect trump calls out yet another auto maker on twitter, his beef with toyota and the new senate
social media against an adult male with mental challenges. i made a point to have them fully responsible for their actions also very public that we would conduct a methodical investigation including whether or not this incident would be considered a hate crime. let me be very clear, the actions in that video are reprehensible. that alone with racism have absolutely no place in the city of chicago or anywhere else for that matter against anyone regardless of their race, gender state of mental health or any other identifying factor. there was never a question whether or not this incident qualified to be investigated as a hate crime, but as i said yesterday, we needed to base the
investigation based on facts and not emotion. i'm pleased to announce that the investigation has concluded and charges have been proapproved b the cook county state's attorney by hate crimes, aggravated kidnapping, aggravated restraint and aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. three of the offenders have been charged with residential burglary and one has also been charged with robbery an possession of a stolen motor vehicle. as police officers, we took an oath to be guardians of the peace. here to protect every citizen. because of it, the offenders in this case were apprehended due to the good police work by 11 officers standing behind me and
thankfully the victim in this incident will recover from his injuries. i am going to ask kevin duf ffi to relay a timeline in this case. >> thank you. our victim was dropped off on the 31st of december at the mcdonald's at stream hill. with one of the offenders, it was under the premise that he would be spending tonight and his parents didn't look for him until the next day, they subsequently reported him missing in stream wood. jordan hill goes and steals a van in stream wood. he then picks up our victim who
has no knowledge it is stolen, assume it is jordan's they drive to the west side of chicago where they basically are driving around and visiting friends for the next two days. the victim sleeps in the van on the morning of the 3rd of van they go to the address on lexington which is two of the other three offenders reside, the two sisters, and then about several hours later, that's when they bind him and start the assault on him. he is able to escape when a downstairs neighbor calls the police complaining of all the noise upstairs. the police respond and the two female offenders now go downstairs, they're angry that the police were called, kick in the door of that apartment hence they are both charged with the burglary. that gives our victim an opportunity to get out and then
he's observed walking down the street by our 11th district officers michael donnelly will explain how they happened upon him. thank you. >> donnell-o-n-n-e-l-l-o-d-o-n-. we observed our victim, walking with jordan hill, which i noticed him walking with jeans a t-shirt bloodied and battered and due to the cold weather conditions i approached him to talk to him and at the time he didn't seem like -- he was discombobulated and confused at which time i called an ambulance. i left him with two other
officers to continue my investigation. it was learned that he was missing from stream wood illinois at which time put the pieces of the puzzle together for what we have right now. >> we'll take questions now if you have any questions. >> what do you understand the reason for the motive? why did they do this? >> it appears the fight on prior to him being bound, tied up and assaulted, the victim tells us he got into a play fight with jordan and it escalated from the there. the two female offenders then -- who are obviously, you can see envoy that they're smoking
cigars which we presume to be blunts. they then get aggravated at him and that's when they tie him up and when the racial slurs and you know the deference to his mental capacity starts coming out. that's primarily one of the reasons they were charged with the hate crime. >> any premeditation? >> i believe it escalated. there was certainly no premeditation between jordan and him when the initial fight broke out. [ inaudible ] >> did that in any way influence him being targeted? >> no. >> what is the relation between the women? are they sisters? >> yes. >> what is the initial connection between jordan hill
and the victim? >> they are aacquaintances they attended school together in aurora. >> had they gone out often or hung out before? >> they have hung out occasionally before, not frequently. >> when was the last time he had any contact with -- before today? >> i can't answer. >> and there seemed to be confusion that the victim's family is saying when the police same he was able to escape and that's when they found him, so there seems to be confusion when he was seen walking on the street, can you explain that for us? >> the police were called, the two female offenders know that the -- apparently the downstairs neighbor came up and said if you don't knock off the noise i'm going to call the police, they go downstairs, mad at her and start kicking her door in.
i believe your call was -- >> criminal damage to property and that's when he decided to get out. >> what time? >> 5:15. >> what day? >> tuesday evening. >> what's the relationship of the four people who are charged? >> well the two girls are sisters and they're just acquaintances of the other two. >> boyfriend connection with any of them? >> no. >> the hate crime is really high, what specifically are you looking at that really raises it to that? >> well, again, his diminished mental capacity. the fact that they tied him up. the obvious racial quotes on that they post live on facebook, taken the totality of the circumstances the state's attorney agreed with us they saw
hate crime charges. >> was that the impetus or the strong point of the hate crime or was it the racial comments? >> a half dozen one, six of the other. >> do you have any reason why they streamed this live on facebook publicize this as they did? >> i can't understand why anybody puts anything on facebook. >> -- extort money or ransom from the family's money, did they contact the parents or any details there? >> but there was an extortion attempt? >> i'm not exactly positive on that. the two detectives that have worked this case solid tuesday night, they literally passed out this morning they were so tired around i didn't ask them that question before walking in here. >> but there are reports of extorti extortion? >> yes.
>> were there any reports of -- >> the residential burglary charge a little bit more? >> i'm sorry? >> can you explain the residential burglary a little bit more? >> when the downstairs neighbor told them i'm going to call the police if you don't knock off all that noise, the two came down and started breaking her door in hence, it's forcible entry. >> is he hospitalized? >> he's in his parents' custody presumably out at his residence. >> where is he from? >> crystal lake. >> how long was he in that apartment? >> it appears he was in that physical position tied up in the corner for about four or five hours. >> of course the video shows us a small window of time. anything else that was happening
to him? we see what's in the video, but what else has happened to him that perhaps we don't know about? >> we have no other video but the statements of the four of them that they admit they were beating him, kicking him, they were making him drink toilet water and then obviously the video where they're cutting a piece of his scalp. >> you say he might have been held hostage a solid 24 to 48 hours, can you give us a better timeline? >> he was with jordan from last friday, the actual -- but you have to realize the first two days he's with him voluntarily riding around in a van he thinks is jordan's. it's not until they get to the apartment on lexington and even then several hours later before the fight breaks down and they tie him up. so he was at least with jordan since friday but the actual
assault and kidnapping and crimes took place over a six hour period on the 3rd. >> [ inaudible question ] >> what was new years eve? i'm sorry saturday i miss spoke, saturday. >> the two females were there, yes. >> what day did you say the assault actually happened? >> january 3rd. >> thank you. >> thank you, sir. >> so tomorrow, mugshots are online. >> okay. wow. here is the deal, this young man, this victim was essentially dropped off at this mcdonald's and his friend, nice friend, picks him up in a stolen van, drives him around town the next couple of days ends up with sisters in some apartment where they tie him up, scalp him, force him to drink toilet water,
you heard the details of the news conference, and the hate crimes racially motivated and also because he's physically and mentally motivated by all of the above. joey joins me live. so, so many thoughts then the fact that the sisters decided to commit a crime on the way out, burglarizeding the woman downstairs. >> first where has humanity gone? >> thank you. >> and what could we do to set a better example so this doesn't occur, from the legal system, there's punishment, deterrent and rehabilitation. certainly i think the degree of punishment because what was inflicted on that victim is going to be forthcoming for the defendants, as things are happening with technology that we haven't seen before.
people are putting crimes -- >> i want to show everyone on facebook. >> and i think we'll see a legislative response to this. >> the law hasn't caught up. >> it has not. how could this possibly be proper but i think if something comes out of this as good that i always like to look at, that something good could come, if we look at the deterrent value to say and suggest it isn't right and shouldn't happen that's a deterrent and perhaps there's some redeeming quality in these four youths in the 18-year-olds and 24-year-old will be take into consideration by the system, but it's such a disturbing story to talk about that a person can lack such humanity and that's why you have this significant charges they're facing right now. >> unreal. unreal. >> to say the least. >> next year just in african-american lawmakers on
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constituents if we did not make it clear to all that his nomination to be >> this upcoming hearing for senator sessions has been a showdown 30 years in the making after these alleged racial comments he made decades ago. this goes back to 1986 where jeff sessions was u.s. attorney, where ronald reagan nominated him to serve as attorney judge. sessions had called someone boy on several occasions and cautioned him to "be careful what you say to white folks." that same attorney also testified about a time sessions said he said aloud that he thought the kkk was "okay" until i found out they smoked pot. then and now senator sessions vehemently denies each and every one of those allegations and just yesterday outside of his
senate office, his office down in mobile, alabama, member of the local and national naacp were taken into custody here after staging protests. so, two voices here on both sides of this. william smith served as chief counsel when sessions was a ranking member of the senate judiciary committee. he is currently chief of staff for congressman gary palmer. solomon jones, author, radio host for the philadelphia news daily -- daily news, i should say. thank you for being with me. william, i want to go to you first because you know him. you've known him for decades. as we said, this is a man who did not become a federal judge because of these alleged comments. tell me about the jeff sessions you know. >> the jeff sessions i know is a nice guy. he's a man who is honest. he has great character. he's a man who has never had any racial animus inside of his body. he is a man who carries himself well. he loves people. he's a man who has -- has fought for several rights throughout
his career. all these innuendos that keep coming up are just false. you would think after 30 years they would come up with something new. they haven't found anything new after 30 years. they're going back to witnesses who have been discredited and it's a shame. >> solomon, how do you feel? >> i feel like they don't need to come up with anything new because these allegations are still there. if everybody is wrong except for mr. smith then so be it, but i don't think so. i don't think that when you look at his record on voting rights, mr. sessions is somebody who is good for the black community or for people of color at all. and i don't think that when you look at his record on race that he is good for people of color. now, i know mr. smith likes him. i know that he like -- >> you haven't studied his record on race. >> tribute to him on 2005. let's go through his record on race. >> i'd be happy to do that. can i have an opportunity to speak? >> they have not been disproven
yet. the only one saying -- >> let me talk about -- >> go ahead, william. i want to you interject and talk to me about his -- >> can i talk to you about those allegations from 1986? so, if you look at the two witnesses who testified before the judiciary committee in 1986, what happened after they testified, they had to write letters to the judiciary committee apologizing saying i'm sorry we lied at our testimony. if you look at the perry county case that mr. jones mentioned, if you look at the perry county case, the witnesses -- defendants in the perry county case, all of them offered to plead guilty to at least one crime. >> what about -- >> witnesses testified, five witnesses testified that they had ballots that were changed, that they had not approved to be changed. there was direct evidence of t. jeff sessions didn't bring this case. african americans in alabama came to jeff sessions and said, hey, we're being disenfranchised, can you do this for us, can you protect our vote? jeff sessions was trying protect the after man american vote. that's his record on civil
rights. >> the last word, respond to that. >> his record on voting rights is simply this. he is somebody who has said that the voting rights act is not necessary. he's somebody who has stood up against voting rights for african americans and for others. and i think he's right in line with what donald trump is saying. donald trump thanked african americans for not voting. so -- >> he voted for the voting rights act. where are your facts? he voted for the voting rights act. >> again, he spoke against the voting rights act. >> he voted for it. >> that is something that is problematic for the black community and we will stand up against it. >> you should invite him back. >> facts matter. we'll hear it all. the confirmation hearings happen next week. i appreciate you both. >> thanks for having me. >> all on senator jeff sessions, will he, won't he be confirmed. back after a quick break after this. as a control enthusiast,
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minutes outside the city. spencer allen is taking me on a two-hour long horn cattle drive. >> i have taken out some different executives from companies that, be riding behind us on the phone the whole time. >> taking business calls on the phone while they're moving the cattle down the road. at least they're sort of getting out here. >> right, they're out in the country and getting to experience a bit of texas. >> reporter: what's the most important thing about cattle ranching when you're moving cattle? >> what i watch out for is i don't let the cows get behind me. i don't want them to run by, scare the horse. and the other big thing like is you don't want to get between a mama and a baby. >> they don't have this in new york. >> yeah, any of the big cities, most of them don't have anything like this anywhere close by. it's a pretty unique thing to texas. >> haveness a in texas. thank you for that. i'm brook baldwin in new york.
thank you so much for being here with me on this thursday. we're going to send it to washington, d.c. now. jake tapper is out, jim sthciut is in. the lead starts right now. >> thank you, brook. the nation's top spies says there is a difference between questioning and disparaging. the lead starts right now. america's most senior intelligence official laying out the case that russia hacked the democrats, but will donald trump accept it now? weeks before he's sworn into office, donald trump gives a sworn deposition in one of his many ongoing legal battles, taking away from presidential prep today. plus. >> why you do that? >> tied up, beaten and tortured all on facebook, attackers yelling f trump and f white people. this hour new information about the punishment that four suspects are now facing. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking