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good morning. i'm carol costello, thank you very much for joining me. president-elect donald trump coming face-to-face with intel chiefs he's been slamming for weeks. the director of national intelligence, the heads of the fbi, cia and nsa will brief president-elect trump on a new report detailing russia's cyberattacks and meddling in the u.s. elections, that includes intercepted conversations of russian officials celebrating trump's win, even congratulating each other. the classified reports going as far as naming go-betweens that russia used to deliver hacked e-mails to wikileaks. our team is covering the story from every angle possible. we begin with cnn justice correspondent evan perez in washington. good morning, evan. >> reporter: good morning, carol. oh, to be a fly on the wall in that meeting today.
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u.s. officials say they've identified intermediaries with who they believe provided the wikileaks e-mails. this is among the pieces of information that the top intelligence officials are expected to provide to donald trump today at a meeting in new york in next couple hours, probably around 12:30. today is the first time trump will get this extensive intelligence report that looks at not only the russian hacks of the democratic party groups this year or last year, but also cyber hacks going all the way back to 2008 in that election year. we're told by officials that the u.s. intelligence agencies also collected intercepts from russian officials expressing happiness at donald trump's victory on november 8th. the officials also say the intercepts aren't considered smoking gun evidence against the russians but rather part of a broader picture of evidence that they've put together. the director of national intelligence james clapper told senators at a hearing in washington yesterday that the
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intelligence agencies believe the evidence points at russia more resolutely than it did back in october when they first made the charge. we should note wikileaks founder julian assange told fox news this week that the russian government was not his source, but it's also important to remember that wikileaks says it never knows its sources. carol,ality this point we expect the plan right now is for the public to see the declassified version of this intelligence report next monday. >> all right. we're eeg early awaiting results later this afternoon and for the partial report on monday. evan perez live this morning. for more on the meeting let's go to jason carroll live outside trump tower. hi, jason. >> reporter: good morning, carol. the meeting expected to take place about 12:30, just about 2 1/2 hours from now. the vice president elect expected to be in attendance as well. top security officials from the cia, fbi, nsa, also director of
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national intelligence will be present. 17 have already reached the conclusion that russia was behind the cyberattacks. the question going forward, will donald trump o believe it after this briefing as well. yesterday, carol, during those congressional hearings, it became very clear his questioning of the intelligence community has really undermined the community, is hurting morale. martin dempsey, a former chairman of joint chiefs weighed in. this is a man who made a point throughout his career of staying out of the political debate on issues such as this. he weighed in on this, tweeting the following, intelligence is hard, thankless work. fortunately we have dedicated, paid otic and courageous men and women at the job. thanks. kellyanne conway, current adviser with the president-elect in a contentious interview with our own chris cuomo weighed in,
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defending trump saying trump is in no way being soft on russia. >> he's not sheltering russia. don't you say that again. >> how is he not? >> what has the current president done vis-a-vis russia -- >> i don't understand how the answer to the question is to blame the current president? >> i'm not blaming the current president. i'm asking a question. all of a sudden we're all frothing about russia. what has he done? do you think president obama's legacy vis-a-vis russia will be of a tough guy? >> let's say the legacy with obama and russia is the worst, couldn't be worst. how is president-elect trump helping by ignoring russia's roles during the elections. >> he's going to help because the russians didn't want him elected. you know why? he's said clearly during the campaign and as president-elect he's going to modernize our nuclear capability, call for an increase in the defense budget, have oil and gas exploration, all which goes against russia's economic and military interests. donald trump got elected in part
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because people want a tougher leader in the white house, a tougher commander-in-chief. >> reporter: a lot of back and forth during that interview, carol. a bit of a surprise to some of trump's critics who were somewhat encouraged by the development that former senator dan coates has been basically tapped to replace director of national intelligence james clapper. a bit of news there. the meeting set to take place at about 12:30. carol. >> we got word that mike pence will be taking part in that meeting along with donald trump. can you tell us anymore about that? >> as i said in the beginning, yes, the vice president will also be in attendance as well. as evan perez said, look, to be a fly on the wall during that meeting when he's going to be coming face-to-face with many of the agencies he's been criticizing over the past few months, few weeks, is definitely going to be something that's interesting to see what the
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outcome will be. basically what this comes down to, carol, through all the back-and-forth is, at the end of the day, will the president-elect accept the findings of the intelligence community? that's what we're waiting to find out. >> all right. jason carroll live from trump tower. i'm joined by former senior bush administration official brian hook, deputy director of congressional relations at the foundation for defense of democracy, boris silverman and former cia counterterrorism official phil mudd. welcome to all of you. let's dive right in. phil, sean spicer, trum spokesman says trump is prepared to listen during the intel briefings but will still have questions. for example, this one. list listen. >> the dnc is saying the fbi never looked at the server. they're saying they never got access. regardless of who is right and who is wrong, if the server is never looked at, how do you in
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the intelligence community come to this kellyanne conway collusion? it's a fair question to ask. i think he's going to ask questions like that, not questioning the intelligence, but questioning how the conclusions were arrived at. >> by server, he means the democratic national committee didn't turn the server over to the fbi but instead had a trusted third party look into the server and then pass along that information to the fbi. phil, what do you make of that? >> i think they're fair questions that the president-elect and vice president-elect should be asking. i think that's too tactical for a presidential-level conversation. the bigger question is the difference between solid information, indicating russian-backed entities stole information and whether those hacks lead directly or indirectly back to the office of vladimir putin. the question here is not i think these tactical issues of whether the dnc provided information. it's the big question of, if we're going into a situation where the president-elect is
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dealing with congressional sanctions against russia, how con fi dfident are we that puti knew? >> brian, is that just a deflection, what sean spicer said, is he trying to make us all wonder why the democrats would not turn their computers over to the fbi? >> i don't know if it's a deflection. i think looking at that segment with kellyanne conway, there is a real concern that democrats are using the russia issue as a proxy to contest the election or undermine the result. i think perhaps there's some difficulty separating the security concers from a lot of the political concerns. i think that the hearings yesterday on the hill were very productive. i think it's in everyone's interest to get to the bottom of it. we're still in that pre inaugural phase. i i this until we get past the inauguration, it's hard to predict what his policy will be on russia. >> going back to that
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congressional hearing yesterday, boris, that whole hearing was meant to send a message to donald trump to trust the intelligence community, something former cia director leon panetta reinforced on the "today" show this morning. let's listen. >> the president has to work with the intelligence community. the president has got to make tough decisions. he cannot make those tough decisions without the very best intelligence that can be provided to him. i'm concerned that it really is damaging the credibility of our intelligence agencies and the morale. >> okay. so you just heard sean spicer, right? trump is still prepared to be skeptical, right? has trump put himself in this box that he can't get out of, that he's no longer able to say i trust whatever the intelligence agencies tell me? >> i think you're going to see next week with the confirmation hearings maybe where that i ear able to get a different group of his nominees basically to put
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out different policy positions potentially on russia and kind of move the ball forward from this box that he may be in. but i think once he finds out exactly what the russians did or did not do, how far they went, i think you'll be able to see an opening next week during the confirmation hearings to move past this. >> okay. that is optimistic in some people's minds. let's focus on the intelligence report itself. phil, cnn is told there is no smoking gun, per se, but top level russian officials were celebrating trump's win and they have hard core evidence of that. kellyanne conway this morning didn't believe they had much evidenced. what do you say? >> i'm in the middle. suggesting they don't have evidence -- this is not speculative. this is intelligence officials saying we intercepted
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conversatio conversations. i don't know how she disputes that. the question is what difference does it make, if someone celebrated the victory of one candidate or the other? i want to get in the heat of the intelligence conversation to the heart of the matter. do we have solid information, whether it's a human source, intercepted communication or elsewhere, that indicates the president's office in russia was aware of, supported, condoned, backed this operation? all this other stuff is enough. i don't think it's particularly relevant. >> brian, do you think the public will ever know the hard core evidence that intelligence officials have about russia, or will we just have to every rely on what mr. trump allies to us? >> there's always questions when they want to put forth a claim because it compromises sources and methods. i doubt we'll ever have the entire brief on it. i think that over time we're going to learn more -- i think once the president-elect is
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sworn into office and takes a view of russia from the oval office, it's going to be a very different view, and i think he's going to be facing a congress that wants to get to the bottom of it. if we can get all the facts out and follow the facts to where they may lead, it's good to avoid any future possibility of russian interference in an election. i think there's a lot to be said for the eight years of weakness under president obama inviting the kind of cyber aggression that we saw at the end of his presidency. we saw it with the china hack of the personnel files, federal files, and they certainly were put on notice that russia wanted to do this. they should have taken action much sooner to avoid any foreign interference in presidential election bs. >> i want to follow up on that with you, brian. kellyanne conway said something else interesting this morning. she said the russians did not want mr. trump to be president, that's why she found it so hard to believe they were celebrating because mr. trump is stronger on defense that president obama
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was, and he talked ability reenforcing our nuclear arsenal, and he says russia is actually more afraid of mr. trump than he ever would be of mrs. clinton. >> when you look at some of the policies he's taken, whether it's on strengthening our nuclear capability, strengthening our defense, some of the energy issues, i think these are areas that are probably going to run counter to russian interests. here is what we've seen over the last couple presidencies, republican or democrat. when they come in, they want to get on good footing with russia. we give incoming presidents the benefit of the doubt of getting on a good footing, whether it's with our allies or adversaries. he obviously has some plan to try to get a bilateral relationship with russia that is functional. and until he's sworn in and
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starts to govern, we won't know. it's hard to extrapolate foreign policy on the basis of tweets. >> boris, final question to you. look into your crystal ball. once president-elect trump is inaugurated and becomes president of the united states, will he and congress be on the same page when it comes to russia? >> i think they've got a long way to go. within his own team there's russia hawks on his own national security team. what they decide to do as far as steps to try to engage the russians and how they take the tact is going to be key in how this relationship plays out internally and with congress. >> it will be interesting. brian hook, boris sirl berman, thanks. the final jobs report is in. the economy adding 156,000 jobs in december. christine romans joins us to parse the numbers. good morning. >> this is the phenyl report of his presidency.
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a solid end to the year. overall 2.2 million new jobs created. you can see november, that was revised, about 200,000 jobs created in november, 156 in december. this is what it looks like for the president's tenure. i went back over the numbers. you look at the first year of his presidency, 5 million jobs vanished. remember those terrible days? the next years were spent rebuilding. after that 5 million loss, there were more than 15 million jobs created. under this president, 11 million net new jobs created. let me show you the unemployment rate, at dramatic reversal. got above 10%. finally here at 4.7%. you might recall last month it was 4.6%. why would the unemployment rate rise? it rose because 184,000 people may have been more encouraged about the news they're hearing and are now looking for a job.
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let me show you where the jobs are. health care, this has been unbelievable, the growth in health care. these are jobs that span the wage spectrum. food services, those tend to be lower paid jobs. but states have been raising their minimum wages, so some states, they're now $1.00 an hour more. manufacturing, a little surprise, 17,000 increase last month in manufacturing. when i look at the wage numbers overall for the end of the year, the fastest wage growth since 2009, economy, labor market gathering momentum, people starting to come off the sidelines, even the underemployment rate, that counts people that might be working full time but aren't, that's also declining. >> who should we credit this jobs report? >> i say presidents get too much credit and too much blame for the economy. what i can tell you is this is better job creation than under george w. bush before this administration. not as strong as it was under bill clinton. remember under bill clinton the
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pc wauz on every desk, a big transformation there. i think what we can say very fairly this economy is being handed to donald trump with a tail wind. he's going to have an economy growing here. there are millions of open jobs, several hundred thousand open jobs. the discussion i'd like to hear more of is skills, matching people out of work to the jobs, the new collar jobs as the ibm ceo calls it. maybe that's something we'll hear about soon. >> christine romans, thank you very much. donald trump set to get the ball rolling on the big wall he promised during the campaign. but it turns out you may be footing the bill for it, at least for now.
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critics say donald trump is going back on a key campaign promise. instead of having mexico pay for that big, beautiful fall, his transition team is signaling it wants to fund the wall through the appropriations process in congress, and that will happen in just a few months. that means you will pay for the wall, not mexico, at least for now. that's a stark difference from what we heard on the campaign trail. >> who is going to pay for the wall? >> mexico. >> who? >> mexico. >> by the way, 100%. >> that wall will go up so fast your head will spin. you'll say, you know, he meant it. you know what else i mean? mexico is going to pay for the wall. >> we will build a great wall along the southern border and mexico will pay for the wall, believe me. >> by october, just a few months
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after that, trump did float the idea of a mexico reimbursement payment. listen. >> remember i said mexico is paying for the wall. >> with the full understanding that the country of mexico will be reimbursing the united states for the full cost of such a wall, okay? we're going to have the wall. mexico is going to pay for the wall. >> all right. let's talk about. with me javier, the president of the u.s. hispanic chamber of commerce. welco welcome. >> good morning, carol. how are you? >> i'm good. in light of what mr. trump said on october 22nd, should taxpayers be surprised they will foot the wall at least for now? >> i think again as i've said before, we are now transitions from the rhetoric of the campaign to the reality of the presidency. i think that the good news here is that it appears that donald
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trump, in fact, is beginning to deal with this issue. he's putting it front and center and dealing with it from the onset. unlike president obama, i think what we're seeing here is a willingness to put this thing out there and begin to deal with this thorny, sometimes very emotional issue that has many facets to it. he gets credit from me for wanting to deal with it right from the get-go. >> you really think mexico will reimburse the united states taxpayers to the tune of billions of dollars? >> you know, i think, first of all, we need to deal with the reality that the wall is not the panacea. it's not the final solution. it is the beginning of a comprehensive solution that needs to be put into place. keep in mind that 42% of the people who are in this country in an undocumented fashion actually flew into the country. a physical wall along the southern border between mexico and the united states is not
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going to fix the problem, but it is the beginning of the process. >> it's the beginning of the process. again, taxpayers are going to pay for this wall to the tune of, what, $8 billion. >> or more. >> or more. that's a lot of money. again, do you really think mexico will reimburse u.s. taxpayers for the cost of that wall? >> i can't speak for the government of mexico. i can tell you that, you know, this is where the process begins. the good news here is we're dealing with it. i believe that our congress and the american people will guide the right decisions and the right direction. i know for a fact that the trump team is looking at this from a more holistic perspective. >> he's going to push it through the appropriations process, which means congress won't actually vote on it. how are the people getting their say if lawmakers aren't voting on the process? >> i get your point. but the good news here again is, a, we're dealing with it. two, i have to give credit for
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the fact that there's some transparency here. this has been brought up. this concept is 24 hours old, not even 24 hours old. >> he said it october 22nd. it's not new. he said it back in october. the plan was in place then, i would assume, right, since he said it on the campaign trail. he also said he wants to impose tariffs on mexico, and that would be a way to force mexico to pay, but those tariffs might have bad consequences like raise prices on imported goods in the united states which would hurt consumers. >> again, this is where our council -- >> will it be worth it? >> this is where the council has been centered, centered around the negotiation that, a, the wall will not fix the problem. 42% of the people here didn't come across the border. they flew in. secondly, we need to look at the economic and commercial interests between mexico and the united states. mexico is the third largest
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trading partner to the united states. 6 million american jobs depend on the bilateral trade that happens between these two countries. right now we're trading something -- bilateral trade is something along the lines of $568 billion on an annual basis. i know the trump team is listening to our council in the context of looking at this thing. the good news is we're beginning to deal with it, putting it front and center so the american people, the congress, the public can begin to hear what the possible solutions might be. there's going to be appetite for some things and no opinion tight for others. our role as an organization that represents 4.1 million hispanic-owned firms in this country that collective contribute $668 billion to the american economy, our role is to keep in mind the economic and commercial interests. today immigrant owned companies employ one in ten americans,
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contribute $680 billion to the mayor condition economy. i know they're listening to us from that perspective. i know they're taking into account the fact immigrants continue to contribute to this country and our economy. the fact that young children were brought to this country through no fault of their own. >> just to be clear, will you try to talk the trump team out of building the wall right now? >> my role is to offer advice and counsel from an economic perspective when called upon and when i believe it adds value. we will continue to talk to them from that perspective. ultimately they'll have to make the decisions here, but the good news is that we're putting this thing front and center. we're finally beginning to deal with it. there's going to be appetite for some solutions and no appetite at all for others. and this is the beginning of the process. i think we all need to relax and we need to get on with this. that's the good news. it's been put front and center. let's begin the process of doing what the american people have an
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appetite for. >> all right. javier palomarez, thank you. join us next week for a town hall special with senator bernie sanders, monday night, 9:00 eastern. we'll discuss the democratic strategy during the trump administration with chris cuomo. on thursday, speaker paul lieian will take questions from a live audience ahead of the inauguration. speaking of speaker ryan, he vows to strip planned parenthood of federal funding. up next, how his promise could threaten his own party's plans to repeal obamacare. so mom's go. hashtag "stuffy nose." hashtag "no sleep." i got it. hashtag "mouthbreather." yep. we've got a mouthbreather. well, just put on a breathe right strip and ... pow! it instantly opens your nose up to 38% more than cold medicine alone. so you can breathe ... and sleep. shut your mouth and say goodnight mouthbreathers.
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good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you for joining me. house speaker paul ryan vowing to dedpund planned parenthood as part of a plan to repeal obamacare. tieing the two together could be a problem for some centrist republicans and put the obamacare repeal in jeopardy, another potential problem, another top republican says the party has no comprehensive plan to replace obamacare. senior political reporter manu raju is live on capitol hill with more. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. i'm outside the house republican conference meeting where they're discussing a number of issues going forward, obamacare being one of them. the problem for republicans in tieing the planned parenthood issue to the obamacare repeal is in the numbers. in the senate there are 52 republicans. they have to make sure they don't lose more than three republicans in order to pass an obamacare repeal some time this year. two republican moderate
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senators, lisa murkowski of lal las ka and susan collins are against tieing the planned parenthood to the repeal. rand paul is objecting because he believes it raises the deficit. he won't vote for the bill because of that. you add this complication, house conservatives demanding the planned parenthood funding be tied to the obamacare repeal. here is what one had to say. >> i believe the sands of time ought to blow over this capital dome before we give planned parenthood one more dime of taxpayer dollars. >> you oppose the obamacare repeal if it didn't have the planned parenthood funding? >> well, i'm not going to link the two. >> reporter: federal funding doesn't go to abortions because of the hyde amendment that restricts federal funding going to abortions. this has been an effort for a long time to try to kill this
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organization among conservatives. one other thing you mentioned, john cornyn of texas, number two senate republican says he believes obamacare replace will happen step by step, that means no full-scale comprehensive plan to replace it. >> manu raju live from capitol hill, thank you. not all trump supporters think rolling back obamacare is a good idea. cnn's chief medical correspondent sanjay gupta spoke with one trump supporter who needs it desperately. >> wouldn't sell it to me at any price, but i was overweight. i was a risk. >> reporter: back in 2013, bob ruscoe was a familiar story in america, too familiar. he was more than 100 pounds overweight. at risk of heart disease and diabetes, he was also self-employed and no company wanted to offer him health care insurance. he was considered too big a
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risk. >> was that tough to go uninsur uninsured? >> it doesn't make you warm and fuzzy, but it was the reality of the situation. >> reporter: when did you first hear about the affordable care act? >> it was over the news. >> reporter: what did you think? >> i thought it was a good idea. even though i'm a conservative. >> reporter: when did you first sign up for obamacare? >> when it was first available. it was october, i remember. i wanted to be covered because it's important. >> reporter: as a result, starting in 2014, bob was able to get insurance after subsidies. it was finally within reach and a big relief. >> september was, i can't wait until october, the feeling of coming out of the rain, if you will. you're out there to the breezes. you can do all you can. you can get healthy, try to be safe. there's a certain amount of faith that's just out there. so to have coverage, it was --
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whew. >> reporter: which makes what happened next all the more surprising. >> repeal and replace. >> reporter: look, you voted for donald trump who promised to repeal something that you're very much benefiting from. again, how do you explain that to people? >> i did what i thought was correct for the overall good of the country. i think economic strength cures a lot of things. people working, making decent money, that certainly helps out. i'd rather not need the subsidies. i'd rather be working. >> we are repealing and replacing obamacare. we can reverse the stagnation and usher in a period of true opportunity and growth. >> reporter: that repealing obamacare would be good for the economy, it's a common refrain. but the committee for a responsible federal budget suggests the opposite. they say fully repealing
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obamacare would cost roughly $350 billion over ten years and would also increase the number of uninsured by 23 million. >> if he does repeal obamacare as he's promised to do, what is that going to mean for you? >> no unshurns. >> reporter: no insurance. that was a big problem for you before. >> i wasn't happy about it. >> reporter: truth is, some of the states that most benefited from obamacare had a majority who voted for trump. like ruscoe's home state of florida. florida has the highest percentage of enrollees in the nation. one in ten floridians under 65 signed on through the affordable care act. >> he credits obamacare with profoundly changing his health. because of that, this lifelong conservative wrestled for the first time with the idea of voting democrat. >> if i would have voted for what i thought was strictly best for me, i would have voted for
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her because the health care plan gives us pieeace of mind, medic screening, to stop something before it gets worse. >> reporter: russ koseis he has no regrets about voting for president-elect trump, but he would tell him this. >> each day we face the possibility of losing our home and going into bankruptcy. one thing that could come in, the health care act has taken that worry away. >> reporter: carol, i think you can hear how agonizing a decision it was for ruscoe. one is i've heard repeal over and over again, but i'm not quite sure it's going to happen. many those many parts of the affordable care act will still be in place. the other thing is, bob believed he was voting for an economy president, and if the economy improved under trump, perhaps he wouldn't need the subsidies from the affordable care act. that's how he pieced it together. it wasn't's si, but a little
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insight into one voter's mind. >> dr. sanjay gupta, thank you. still to come in "the newsroom." i'm not sorry. a live report from outside the trial next. oh, look... ...another anti-wrinkle cream in no hurry to make anything happen. neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair works... ...in one week. with the... fastest retinol formula available. it's clinically proven to work on fine lines and... ...even deep wrinkles. "one week? that definitely works!" rapid wrinkle repair. and for dark spots, rapid tone repair. neutrogena®. "see what's possible."
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getting under way right now, day three of the sentencing phase of the charleston church shooter's trial. dylann roof expressing no remorse. martin savidge is live outside the courtroom. hi, martin. >> reporter: good morning, carol. every day so far in the penalty phase there has been suspense or surprise. the end of day two certainly brought the element of surprise because we had listened to the heartbreak of families. it is heartbreaking to hear their stories of loss.
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then the government introduced this jailhouse diary. we heard it mentioned in the opening statement. it was read in its entirety. i'm not going to read it because much of it is filled with racial hatred and it's not worthy of even a mention. however, the reason it was introduced is it goes to the state of mind of dylann roof now. this is wheat the government is trying to say, he's not rependent. let me read you just one section. he says sitting in my cell i think about how nice it would be to watch a movie or eat some good food or drive my car somewhere, but then i remember how i felt when i knew i had done something, and then i realized it was worth it. i would rather live in prison knowing i took action for my race than to live with the torture of sitting idle. that's dylann roof from his jailhouse journal. another interesting part of the journal he brings up at the end. he sort of gets into what are called clarifications. apparently he's miffed as a result of some of the ways he's
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been depicted as a result of the media attention since he's a convicted mass murderer. he brings up such things and calls them ridiculous. for instance, he says it would be ridiculous for anybody to suggest that he planned to shoot up the college of charleston. he says that's absolutely crazy. he also denied that he did it because of a girl. he says he never did have a close black friend and many of the people who have come forward and said they knew him did not know him at all, but trying to glom on to the media spotlight. he was very upset that the government charged him with attempted murder for the 11-year-old who was in the room. he said i never intended to kill that child. weird on top of just sick. and that's another surprise coming out of this case so far. carol. >> i think that pretty much sums it up. martin savidge live from charleston this morning. still to come in "the newsroom," a new report
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reporting that right now more than 150 financial institutions are holding mr. trump and his businesses' debt. cnn's christiristina alesci is . good morning. >> good morning. let's say donald trump sold his debt to financial institutions. that's why you see so many different names, wells fargo, jpm, vanguard. the problem is what happens if, if, donald trump has any problems making interest payments? lawyers worry that that dynamic could influence the way that he thinks about how to deal with banks. remember, his treasury department will help regulate them. his justice department will decide whether to prosecute them when they're accused of wrongdoing. so all of this presents a very interesting ethical question. but let me play devil's advocate
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for a second. the fact that the debt has been repackaged and it passed through so many hands actually creates less of a bright line between donald trump and his lenders. and more people are involved. so you could argue in a way that this actually reduces conflicts because it's not banks that would be in the middle of these negotiations, it would be the servicers of the debt, which is a little technical. i know, i know. hey, at least we didn't use jargon, cut me some slack here. the reality is it does present a conflict, he'll have to address it. we'll hear more about it probably on january 11th when he does his first press conference in a while. >> right, in a while. do you think he'll actually address specifics like that? >> i don't know that he'll address the debt part of his problem. this complex issue, shall we say. but he has so many other conflicts that are much more glaring and much more
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problematic and perhaps have him running a file of a constitutional section, of a section of the constitution, that perhaps he will be more sensitive to those matters and address those up front. but whether or not his children are involved in the business is going to be the biggest question. and whether or not that resolves any kind of conflicts is a big question, because they could be seen as a conduit to currying favor with the president. >> sure. it will be an interesting speech. >> indeed, we'll listen it to all. >> we'll talk to you then, cristina alesci, thanks very much. the man who plowed that truck into a crowd at a berlin christmas market was illegally registered under at least 14 different identities.
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russia says it's cutting back its presence in syria. some warships are the first to leave. the russian military helped syria regain control of aleppo, recaptured from rebel forces last month. president obama transfers four more detainees out of guam bay. originally from yemen, they were transferred to saudi arabia. that drops the prison's population to just 55 with more transfers likely before obama takes who was trump took to twitter saying, quote, there should be no further releases from gitmo, they are extremely dangerous people and should not be allowed back on the battlefield. one of osama bin laden's youngest sons is being placed on a u.s. terrorist watch list after he reportedly threatened attacks on the united states. analysts describe him as the
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andy has more from the consumer electronics show. >> reporter: they took a vote for mvp right now, it would be a toss-up between the two. the rockets were firing all cylinders, rockets up by 18 points in the third quarter. westbrook would not go quietly, he led the thunder on a come back, on his way to 49 points. this game was tied in the closing seconds, rockets sweep by the thund 118-116. i've been walking around here in las vegas checking out all the cool new products here at the consumer electronics show. one of the innovations here are virtual reality, it puts you in the action, sitting court side watching games. they broadcast one nba game a
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week in virtual reality. i sat down with nba commissioner adam silver yesterday. he's excited about the future of this technology. >> it's the closest thing to being live in an arena. of course when you have a global game like ours, only a tiny fraction of our fans will probably ever be in the united states, let alone in the nba arena. if we can replicate that experience, especially that court side experience, talk to fans on your left and right, hear what the players are saying out on the floor, move around the arena, i think those are the kinds of things we're very focused on. >> reporter: the next vr, virtual reality, is working with the nfl as well, they're looking to do more work next year. the playoffs begin tomorrow, lions taking on the seahawks. the texans are taking on the raiders. carol, i've seen so much cool stuff out here at the consumer electronics show, i really want to show you one i just ran into. this thing right here is called a hover camera.
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it has facial recognition technology. and so all you do is turn it on, it's going to hover, it's going to find my face, carol, and i can move around, and it will basically follow me around. it's basically the unending selfie. if you need a selfie, this is a great product for you, you can just walk around and you constantly have a camera on you at all times. it shoots 4k video. this is incredible. >> it is so weird. it's like a weird kind of pet. okay. we'll expect to see that video, i'm sure it's fantastic. andy scholes reporting live for us this morning, thank you. the next hour of "cnn newsroom" starts now. and good morning, i'm carol costello, thank you so much for joining me. in just a couple of hours donald trump will be face-to-face with intelligence chiefs he slammed for weeks. trump and vice president-elect mi

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