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only xfinity gives you more to stream to any screen. download the xfinity tv app today. it is midnight on the east coast and we're following multiple breaking news stories all across the country. this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. in florida, investigators learning more tonight about esteban santiago, the suspect in today's shooting at ft. lauderdale airport that left five people dead and eight wounded. sources say santiago claims several months ago that he voices telling him to watch isis videos. breaking news out of washington to tell you about. the intelligence community concluding that vladimir putin himself ordered hacking to hurt hillary clinton's campaign and
to help donald trump. plus, an emotional moment from first lady michelle obama, let's listen. >> being your first lady has been the greatest honor of my life. and i hope i've made you proud. >> i want to get right to the latest on the shooting at ft. lauderdale airport. today, joining me now, cnn's boris sanchez, rene marsh, our aviation correspondent, and deborah feyerick, in union city, new jersey, at the home of the suspect's aunt, she has some news on that. boris, let's get to you, where it happened. the fbi holding a news conference tonight. what did they say? >> reporter: don, they said that this would be a difficult and extensive investigation, an expansive one, at that. you can imagine how many people were here at ft. lauderdale hollywood international airport, when all of this unfolded. another thing that they said at the press briefing is that they would explore all avenues to figure out a motive behind this
attack. they said they were investigating in several states, including, as you mentioned, new jersey and alaska. one of the things we heard from the fbi during this press briefing, we were able to confirm that the shooter at one point had visited an office of the fbi in anchorage back in november and revealed to them that he was hearing voices that he believed came from national intelligence agencies here in the united states that were telling hip to watch isis videos. we heard more from the fbi on that. here's some of that sound. >> it's very early in the investigation. we're working closely with our anchorage field office trying to determine his activities there. but i can't really tell you about his records. >> reporter: two interesting things to note, don, before that press briefing was held, we did learn that in the recent past, the shooter had purchased the two glock pistols.
one of them a glock nine, one a glock 40. we don't know if those handguns were the ones he used in this attack, although we do know he used a hg. i asked the fbi spokesperson at this point if these agents in alaska were aware that he had weapons and perhaps if they did anything to take them away or confiscate them from someone who was acknowledging the fact that he was hearing voices the that were telling him to watch isis videos. the spokesperson told me they could not answer the question at that point. what we know is that esteban santiago was referred to local law enforcement, they had him go through a mental evaluation and eventually he was apparently let go and came here to ft. lauderdale to carry out this attack. >> you mentioned local authorities, but they said that he is being interrogated while in federal custody. do you know anything more about a possible motive here? >> we don't have too many indications about a possible motive. but it's extremely telling that
the fbi is still the lead investigative agency in this case. at that press briefing, they said they wouldn't rule out the possibility that this was a terror-related attack. obviously, it raises a lot of flags when someone says they're hearing voices and those voices are telling them to watch isis videos. still a lot of questions to be answered. one of the interesting things that came from that press briefing. one of the reasons the spokesperson told us that agents in alaska did not believe that he had already been radicalized is because he has an expansive military record. he served in the national guard in puerto rico, in missouri, in alaska, as well, ultimately being discharged in 2016. so it's apparent he does have a military record. they didn't see any glaring signs of radicalization, at least in november at that point that he admitted to. but uh they have not ruled out terror. >> i don't know if this is good
news or bad news, but behind you it looks like it's cleared up. not sure what they did with all those people, but any idea when this airport will reopen? >> reporter: about those folks, that process started around 9:00 and we just recently saw some of the last buses pull out of here. there were about 10,000 people that were removed the from ft. lauderdale airport just in the past couple of hours. they're being taken not far from here to port everglades, where we understand the red cross and some other agencies are offering assistance. in terms of when the airport will reopen, minimal operations, private planes and that sort of thing will start up again soon. it's just after midnight, so any minute that facet of the operations will resume. but the general aviations of the airport won't start up again until early tomorrow morning, we're told as early as perhaps 5:00 a.m. clearly, not here in terminal 2. this is still a crime scene. but in the other terminals a to the airport.
>> boris, i want you to stand back and get to rene marsh, our aviation correspondent. she has deep sources. what are your sources telling you tonight? what are you hearing? >> don, right now, what they're trying to piece together is, is he connected to anyone else? by doing that, they're looking at his travels. we know he came to alaska, went to ft. lauderdale, but did he have any other travels in the months or weeks prior? and what are his other connections? they want to try to figure that out first. is he connected to anyone else. of course, obviously, they're going to want to figure out, did he have any communications with anyone else. we do know that there's a police presence at his home there in alaska. and i know that there's a presence at a home in new jersey, as well. they're still gathering information to learn more about this individual's background, don, at this hour.
but it really does raise the question about, could this happen again? and to be perfectly honest, it could happen again, and it could happen at any airport across the country, because there is this vulnerability, and not much that can be done. because when you hear the details of how he stored his firearm in his checked luggage, he did everything by the book, he followed the strict guidelines and yet he was still able to take advantage of that vulnerability at these airports. stand by, renee. let's get to deborah feyerick. it's important to get to you because you're in new jersey. and that's where the fbi is interviewing the suspect's family members, including his aunt. what do you know about that? >> reporter: we know this is all part of the investigation, but they were here earlier. there are about eight agents and police officers who were inside the home of the alleged
shooter's aunt, maria ruiz did speak to reporters -- excuse me -- and she told them that basically her nephew had just had a child. he was a new father. he had been deployed to iraq for a ten-month period back in april of 2010. when he returned, the aunt says he was acting strangely. he's the youngest of five siblings. those five siblings live both in puerto rico as well as florida. he did join the national guard when he was 17 years old in puerto rico. he served that dmoimt deployment in iraq. back in august, he was disarmed. it's unclear what the reasons are for that. but three months later, he walked into an fbi office and basically said that he was -- that u.s. intelligence was telling him to do something. he said he wasn't violent, however, the fbi there referred him to local authorities and they in turn took him to a medical facility for a mental evaluation.
clearly something was going on there. they haven't ruled out terrorism, because they have to make sure nothing else is going on besides that. this is a guy who's a private first class, a combat engineer and did receive rewards while serving with the national guard. they include an army good conduct and commendation medal as well as an army good combat badge. he did have his military i.d. with him when he was taken into custody. his aunt was very upset about this, couldn't understand why this had happened. she said she was sorry and sad and that god should have mercy. don? >> did she talk to you about him going into the fbi, about voices in his head? about any sort of treatment, any sort of ptsd? how he'd changed when he came back from war? did she speak about that at all? . she did say that he was acting strangely. and the story that's bieginning
to be pieced together is that he did have issues, there were things going on. and i spoke to someone basically about when he went to the fbi agents and they in turn referred him to local authorities, local authorities have do have the authority to hold somebody, to detain somebody, if they do feel there are certain mental issues that need to be evaluated. it appears that is what happened. the fbi did look at interagency reports and reviews and they also interviewed family members at that time and based on all the information that they put together back in november, they basically, you know, closed their assessment. so whether there should have been more to be done, he seemed to be okay when he was put into that medical facility for evaluation, voluntarily, they clearly thought the situation would be taken care of. >> so that wouldn't show up on a fly list or whatever when he is traveling with a gun? >> reporter: no, not necessarily. and i've traveled with people
who have firearms and there are rules and some airports are stricter than others. i heard you mention earlier that you had to go to a different area when you were doing a story to claim your firearm. often what happens, for example, at jfk, someone from the port authority will come, they will make sure that the gun has no bullet in the chamber. they actually make the person check the firearm there in front of them, but other airports, it's much easier. you just have to declare that the firearm is not loaded and you're able to check it straight through. there are different rules, but that wouldn't have necessarily raised a red flag, because the fbi had closed its assessment on esteban santiago. >> deborah feyerick for us, eric sanchez, rene marsh, thanks to all of you, appreciate it. when we come back, the intelligence report released today that blames vladimir putin for ordering hacking to influence our election. afoot and light-hearted i take to the open road. healthy, free, the world before me,
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america's intelligence agencies concluding in a report that russia's vladimir putin directly influenced in campaign. top officials are briefing the president-elect on the findings today. i want to bring in david swerdlick, assistant editor at "the washington post." julia kayyem, and former cia o operative, bob baer. julia and bob running the marathon this evening. thank you all for joining us. david, welcome to the panel. i'm going to start with bob, he's been doing some heavy lifting tonight. the declassified version of the intelligence report on russian hacking has been released and among the conclusions, it says, we assess russian president vladimir putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the u.s. presidential election. russia's goals were to undermine public faith in the u.s. democratic process, denigrate senator clinton and harm her electability and potential presidency. we further assess putin and the russian government developed a
clear preference for president-elect trump. our intelligence community is confident that russia did it and they did it in part to help donald trump. what kind of evidence do they have? >> they've got a lot of evidence. they've got code. it's traced back to russia, the kgb. to the gru military intelligence. they've got metadata around the hacking. they've got reuse, this chose has been used before. it's not something you can buy on a criminal market of some sort. and you know, then they just look at -- they also brought up intercepts. they've come out and said they've been intercepting russian calls. on top of that, i would imagine, this is a guess, they had implants in fiber optics. you know, this is a really, really strong, strong
assessment. i've read these things for many years and a lot of wishy-washy. i've never seen one this conclusive, period. >> so, bob, the intelligence report has called this a significant escalation in longtime russian efforts to undermine the u.s.-led liberal democratic order, you know, small liberal. why was putin so interested in this election? >> he was interested because he detested hillary clinton for what she did in the ukraine. he thought she interfered in the russian elections in 2011. missile defense systems. they looked at her as a true enemy of russia and they had every reason in the world, in their minds to take her down. and so the motivation is there. we hay disagree with putin, but he did it for a reason.
i talked with russian intelligence officers and there was dissent within the kgb whether they should go ahead with this, because it could risk angering the americans, which it is now doing. >> julia, i'll ask you the same question. they called this a significant escalation in longtime russian efforts to undermine the u.s. liberal democratic order. again, why was so. vladimir putin so interested in this election? >> well, there is a couple of reasons that are actually, we explain in the report, it was actually a pull out page for people who were watching that explains the reasons whys. one is what bob said. a specific interest in denigrating, undermining, destabilizing clinton and her campaign. they had assumed that she would win. the second is, they did view trump's viewpoints about world order as more pro-putin, certainly, than hillary clinton's. and that would be beneficial to putin. and this sounds generically, so let me put it specifically.
they believe if putin were to invade another country like ukraine, that the trump administration would be less critical of them. so they were looking forward to a potential trump union, so to speak, with a common interest. and the third is you see this reflection on having a unified front against isis. that would be great. i think everyone would agree that would be great. but in his fight against isis and his counterterrorism fight, he does very anti-democratic things. he arrests people, people are killed. people are -- journalists are put away. his viewpoint and his attitude towards counterterrorism are not american attitudes towards counterterrorism. >> david, president barack obama responded this evening. let's listen and then we'll talk. >> one of the things i'm concerned with is to the degree to which we've seen a lot of
commentary lately where there are republicans or pundits or cable commentators who seem to have more confidence in vladimir putin than fellow americans because those fellow democrats are americans. we have to remind ourselves, we're on the same team. vladimir putin is not on our team. >> it's interesting, we're on the same team. we haven't heard that a lot, there's been so much division. what's your reaction? >> it's what the president also alluded to in his speech, his press conference before christmas, when he said that ronald reagan would be rolling over in his grave. the idea that in the wake of all of this, i mean, let's remember how we got here, don. there was a report by my "washington post" colleagues about month ago that the findings we found out today were going to come out. a couple of days later on a sunday show, president-elect trump dismissed them, said the report was ridiculous, we didn't know who was behind this, the intelligence community was off-base, and now it turns out the intelligence community, as
bob said, is firmly behind these findings. president-elect trump backed himself into a corner with this idea that, you know, dismissing the idea that russia would meddle in our elections, and now as president obama is saying, you have a situation where people are drawing up sides, not in terms of the united states and russia, but in terms of partisan politics, democrats and republicans. and with the exception of a couple of republicans like senator mccain and senator graham, you don't hear a lot of forceful, you know, pushback against russian interference from republicans, up to and including president-elect trump, who has boxed himself in and now, we don't know what he's going to do once he takes office, but right now he's allowed to develop this narrative that he's soft on russia and soft on putin. >> bob, is he doing putin's work for him? >> absolutely. i totally agree with david. it's amazing. i was cia during the cold war.
reagan is turning in his grave, and it's sort of like, where's joe mccarthy when we need him? we have to get to the facts. our system was attacked in a major way. and to say this is partisan politics is absolutely wrong. the cia, i spent 21 years there, is a conservative organization. and you find mostly republicans there and even trump supporters. this is not partisan. we have to take this seriously and get over our apathapathy, o this report said, we'll be attacked again and again, and not just by russia, by iran and china and so on. >> david, what should donald trump do at this point? does he need to acknowledge that he was wrong, i don't know if that's ever going to happen, but should he at least do that? >> well, he by trying to combat this one narrative that his election was somehow illegitimate. he has allowed two other
narratives to develop. one that he's soft on russia and the other that he's at odds with his own intelligence establishment, that two weeks from now are going to be working for him. so, you know, i don't know how he gets out of this, except to say that a few weeks ago, if he had just said, look, let's wait for the facts to come in. going on, instead of saying this is ridiculous, i don't believe it, he wouldn't find himself in this position now. but what you have now that vladimir putin basically got his cake and eat it too and a big glass of milk, because he's got, essentially, he meddled in our election, he got the candidate, presumably, based on the cia's report that he wanted, and now he's got americans infighting. and that makes him look like the big dog. >> and he's plague ying -- >> i think -- >> go ahead. >> i think one of the things we also feed to disabuse is this
narrative view created by trump and some of his people, there's nothing you can do, it's cyber attacks and wires are complicated and technology is complicated. that's absolutely not true. and there are ways we can protect our systems more. the news sort of got lost today with the department of homeland security is now going to treat election systems as critical infrastructure that allows for more money and federal input. there are things we can do to stop this from happening again. and this idea that we can't only sets -- not only is harmful to american democracy, but there is going to be a re-election in 2020. and i would like to believe that this election, that election will not have the influence of russian in it. whether it's trump or a democrat. >> thank you all. i appreciate it. thank you, bob. thank you, julia. thanks, david. up next, an emotional moment for first lady michelle obama. her last official white house event. she says, being first lady has been the greatest honor of her life. keep telling me "drink more water." "exercise more." i know that.
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who weeks from tonight, the obamas will no long run be residents of the white house. first lady michelle obama holding an emotional event today in the executive mansion. joining me now, cnn white house correspondent, michelle kosinski. the first lady, michelle obama, gave her final speech today. tell us about. >> another reason so many people were watching this is, you know, how do you even say good-bye as first ra first lady? what do you put into this kind
of address? it wasn't just a farewell speech, this was an event for school counselors. and it's almost easier for a president to do this than a first lady who doesn't speak publicly, in such a way, all the time. but as soon as she started to broach the subject, you could hear that emotion in her voice. it seemed like it was really hard to contain. and she wasn't smiling much throughout, her face was very serious. and she included several pointed references to the rhetoric we heard during the campaign. >> as i end my time in the white house, i can think of no better message to send to our young people. something that has carried us through every moment in this white house and every moment in our lives, and that is the power of hope. the belief that something better is always possible if you're willing to work for it and
willing to fight for it. it is our fundamental belief in the power of hope that has allowed us to rise above the voices of doubt and division, of anger and fear that we have faced in our own lives and in the life of this country. >> reporter: in a crowd of educators, advocates, and school counselors, the first lady took this opportunity to speak to america's youth about america's values. and as someone who overing ayears has emerged as one of the most powerful voices for democrats. from her emotional speech at the convention last year -- >> i wake up every morning in a house that was built by slaves. and i watch my daughters, two beautiful, intelligent, black young women, playing with their dogs on the white house lawn. >> to her surprising words just days ago with oprah winfrey. >> see, now we're feeling what not having hope feels like.
>> reporter: here, she didn't miss the chance to once again hint at the kind of rhetoric that she has said defined the trump campaign. >> if you or your parents are immigrants, know that you are part of a proud american transitio tradition. and whether you're muslim, hindu, jewish, sikh, these religions are teaching our young people about compassion and honesty. our glorious diversity, our diversity of faiths, colors, creeds, that is not a threat to who we are. it makes us who we are. >> reporter: noting, too, that it comes with responsibility. half of those young people she's speaking to didn't vote at all. >> you cannot take your freedoms for granted. empower yourselves with a good education. and get out there and use that education to build a country worthy of your boundless promise. lead by example with hope, never
fear. and know that i will be with you, rooting for you and working with to support you for the rest of my life. and i am so grateful to all of you for your passion and your dedication and all the hard work on behalf of our next generation. and i can think of no better way to end my time as first lady than celebrating with all of you. so i want to close today by simply saying thank you. thank you for everything you do for our kids and for our country. being your first lady has been the greatest honor of my life. and i hope i've made you proud. [ applause ] >> reporter: really, an emotional address. and you could see there were conflicting emotions there, too. and many of the people around her were openly crying during this. tonight, as we speak, a much more celebratory mood at the
white house, with a glitzy star-studded farewell party that they're throwing. cameras are not allowed inside tonight, but outside, they captured the likes of stevie wonder, paul mccartney, robert de niro, and meryl streep, don. >> and a very nice speech by the first lady. thank you, michelle kosinski. i appreciate that. there's de niro going in. a lot of stars. a lot of a-listers. michelle, thank you. when we come right back, michelle obama, one of the most popular first ladies in years. so what will she do after she leaves the white house? that ha. business cards? business cards, brochures, banners... pens? pens, magnets, luggage tags, bumper stickers. how about foam fingers? like these? now, get 15% off making your company stand out. staples. make more happen. seconds can mean the difference between life and death. for partners in health, time is life. we have 18,000 people around the world.
first lady michelle obama is the most popular member of the administration and she used her speech today to deliver a message, especially to young people. let's discuss now. kate anderson brower is here, the author of "first women." symone sanders, a former press secretary for bernie sanders, and cnn political commentator, marc lamont hill. good evening. you know, michelle kosinski reported first lady michelle obama's final speech was very emotion emotional. let's listen to more of it. >> i want our young people to know that they matter. that they belong. so don't be afraid. you hear me, young people? don't be afraid. be focused. be determined. be hopeful. be empowered.
empower yourselves with a good education and again out there and use that education to build a country worthy of your boundless promise. lead by example with hope. never fear. and know that i will be with you, rooting for you and working to support you for the rest of my life. >> the first lady is an extraordinary speaker, simone, and an extraordinary first lady. her words, will they continue to resonate? >> i think so. michelle obama has cultivated this persona as the every woman. she's the mom in chief. and today in her very emotional speech that was -- the event was for her retire initiative, she spoke to every kid out there, regardless if they were democrats, republicans, independents, greens, asian american or otherwise and i think that's what people love about michelle obama. >> yeah, her message was one of inclusion and it always has been one, as first lady.
and she made a point of speaking to the nation's young people, especially immigrants, muslims and others about being part of the fabric of this country. was this a slight dig, do you think, at the incoming administration? >> i don't know a dig as much as a response to the administration. i think we're at a moment where the nation is feeling melancholy. where at least half of the nation is very concerned about the tone and tenor of the administration. and she's trying to speak to that and give us a reminder of hope about what's possible. what do you think you can expect from mrs. obama after she leaves the white house? >> i think it was interesting at the point which her voice cracked there is when she was
talking about empowering children and young women. she's always connected ton a very emotional level, when she meets with young women from different communities, young african-american girls. i think she cares very deeply about this. i think we'll see her doing more more of this. the east wing is the heart of the white house and the west wing is the head. the fact that michelle obama has been able to connect with people in an emotional way as the consoler in chief, that's something we'll look ahead to the trump administration and see, who's going to fill that gap? you know, if melania's going to be staying in new york, is ivanka trump going to fill in? and the first ladies go to walter reed. laura bush after 9/11 was an incredibly important support. so i just wonder who is going to take michelle obama's place. and i think we have no idea. >> it's always interesting to watch first ladies, simone, and people have always loved first ladies, but after eight years in
the white house, michelle obama leaves with an extremely high favorability rating, even higher than her husband, and his is high, as well. what is so appealing about michelle obama? ening i know the answer to that. he's just real. she's just, you know, you can -- it's like you can go and just talk to her and have dinner and she's just real. she's just real. >> yeah, michelle obama is like everybody's best girlfriend in their head, regardless of who you are. and she's been very careful. and quounld argue with the exception of this last election, to not be political. you know, she doesn't -- she doesn't like politics. so, she just really cares about the people, cares about kids, cares about education and i think it comes across. the first time i met michelle obama was at a luncheon at girls inc. in omaha, nebraska. she went down the row line, and saw me and was like, i love your hair, don't ever cut it, during a time when people were telling me i shouldn't be a bald girl. so michelle obama makes you feel good about yourself.
>> wlhat'd you say, marc? >> i didn't say nothing! >> she told me not to do it. >> i remember when i was a local anchor in chicago, and she was the wife of a state senator then, and you know how you'd have to do all of those, when you're a local anchor, you would have to do the chicken dinners, introducing, so-and-so, mrs. obama and -- she would sit in the back with me and say, are you in trouble again? will you stay out of trouble. and every single time i see here, she'll say the same thing. are you staying out of trouble. and i would say, mrs. obama, no, it's me. you know i'm always in trouble. >> say, none of y'all listen to her. none of y'all listen to the first lady. if she's so awesome, why aren't you listening? >> marc, you didn't listen either. >> that's true. >> you're not at the white house tonight. >> that's true. >> you always there. i never get invited to nothing
at -- first black president and i didn't get invited to one dinner. not one cabaret, nothing. it's really sad. >> marc sounds like p. diddy. >> i'll show you my picture from the white house christmas party, marc, and we can talk about it. so listen, marc, seriously this morning ezra klein sat down with president obama in front of an audience to talk obamacare, which is now in serious jeopardy of being repealed. how much of president obama's legacy is going to be tied to obamacare? >> a big chunk of it. not just because hi name is attached to it, but because it was his biggest domestic policy achievement in the last 50 years, probably since the civil rights act. it's an incredible gesture, but it's also an incredible concrete piece of policy, even if i have critiques of it. but i think the president's legacy is bigger than just obamacare. i think the president's legacy will extend both good and bad to what's happened in the middle east, extend to what's happened with lgbt folk, it will extend
to the military and it will be an interesting conversation when we have some historical distance to see how impactful it's been. even if obamacare gets repealed, significant chunks of it, people like. significant chunks will be held on to by the trump administration, and that also is part of obama's registration. it's not an easily erasable legacy. it will be obamacare rebranded as trumpcare. a lot of people are -- >> exactly. >> kate, the president also gave a bit of advice to donald trump here. listen. >> my advice to the president-elect, in fact, we talked about this when i met with him for an hour and a half right after he got elected. i said, you know, make your team and make the republican members of congress, come up with things that they can show will actually make this work better for people and if they're convincing, i think you would find that there
are a lot of democrats out there, including me, that would be prepared to support it. >> do you think the president-elect will take the president's advice? >> um, you know, i don't know. i think trump doesn't feel like he has to listen to anyone at this point and i think he thinks he won by being entirely unconventional, so why should he listen to someone else's advice at this point. but, you know, looking back and thinking ahead to what praup is going to say next week, looking back to george w. bush in 2009, when he gave his farewell address, he talked about this moment of hope and pride in this country, with president obama's election. and it's just remarkable to me to think of the tone and the tenor of president obama's speech next week, and sort of what he's trying to convey now, and even what michelle obama said today, which is i thought was clearly talking about diversity being important, and something sob celebrated. did seem a little bit like she
was talking about trump. so we're not seeing that -- while it's a peaceful transfer of power, this campaign was so devicei, i think the farewell message was not going to be similar to what we heard in 2009. it's not going to be, this is a moment of hope and pride. this is someone who might dismantle a lot of what president obama achieved in his eight years in office. so i'm just curious how he phrases that while giving people who supported him hope that things will not go awry. >> stand by. when question come back to the party that marc lamont hill was not invited to, the president and first raed hosting their final white house bash tonight. we're going to take you there. what's the best way to get
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>> the obamas hosting their final white house bash tonight. it looks like quite a party. back with me now kate anderson brower, simone sanders and marc lamont hill. simone, this might be the guest list to the inauguration if you look at the people outside the white house this evening, tongue in cheek. "a" list crowd spotted at the party, meryl streep, stevie wonder, george and amal clooney, bradley cooper. there's paul mccartney, gabby giffords, mark kelly, john legend, sir paul mccartney i should say. robert deniro.
what are they celebrating at the white house? there's kelly roland. >> they're celebrating, yes, and kelly was at the white house earlier today for the first lady's address. none of them will be invited back. donald trump doesn't need celebrities, remember? >> exactly. >> well -- >> they're excited. >> wow. look at that. last time they would get in the white house. this is quite different. how do you compare this bash to the upcoming inauguration? >> i mean, you know, the obamas had what, ten inaugural balls and trump saying he's going to have three. they're having trouble book talent to sing. it's totally different. that moment when beyonce was singing "at last" and president obama and the first lady were dancing, you know, it's hard to replicate that if you're not getting like "a" list celebrities. i think that people in this
election proved that you know, people don't care about the celebrity contingent. they don't want to be told who to vote for that that's part of the result. i'm not sure if it matters if celebrities are really invited to the white house to the average american voter. but it's much more fun to cover and to see. >> mark, the question is who wasn't there when you look at tra tracee ellis ross, movie moguls did, heads of industry. it's a stark difference here. i know they say they don't care about celebrities coming to the inauguration. that's not donald trump. he did host a show called what? "celebrity apprentice." what do you think? >> it's eat go. he may not care about celebrities per se but donald trump certainly cares about public opinion. he certainly has a very large ego. and when people don't want to come to your party, when you
can't have ten parties or ten inaugural balls because you don't have enough people to show up, that's a bad sign. and you can play martyr and say it's because you're a truth teller because you're with the real people. on some level, it hurts and representative of the fact that a big chunk of america is divided. george bush didn't have this much trouble. ronald reagan. this is about donald trump. >> a lot of people have been saying hollywood is a very liberal place. but no conservative presidents, i don't remember any conservative president, i've seen a number of them had this much trouble get doctor celebrities, "a" list, b list to perform at the inauguration. most people see it as an honor. >> it's true. look at designer who's say they don't want to dress melania trump. that's something we've never seen before. designers are clamoring to dress the first lady. laura bush, nancy reagan, same
thing. i think because of just the difficult words that were said during this election, it certainly highlighted the difference between hollywood and new york high fashion and a lot of chunk of america who support donald trump and don't care what they have to say. >> so, simone, let's just talk here and be real here because never had an african-american president before. many people thought we would never have an african-american president considering the history of this country, slavery, jim crow and on and on and on. what did it mean for black folks to have the obamas as the first family? >> it was the ultimate representation. and i'm so glad you said the first family and not just the first black president. it was one thing to having agafrican-american man in the white house but to see young black women in malia and sasha it, the grandmother spoke volumes. representation matters.
the 100 black men their motto is what they see is what they'll be. people across the world saw that a black family could be the family, could be the most some of the -- a black man could be the most powerful man in the world and it works. so i definitely think it matters. we're going to feel this for years and years to come down the road. i know since donald trump got elected folks are like, we'll never see another black president. i don't think that's necessarily true. but president obama and the things he has done from health care to you know, visiting a prison and sitting down with incarcerated individuals and making games and that realm. just being who he is, standing up there and saying if i had a son, he would look like trayvon martin. those are things people will remember and we'll continue to talk about them. >> mark, i have 20 seconds left. seeing is believing especially for a lot of young people.
>> absolutely, whether you voted for him or you didn't, i didn't, there's still a symbolic psychological and cultural to seeing that family in the white house. it's a beautiful sight. it will matter for a long time into thank you all. have a great weekend. that's it for us tonight. thanks for watching. our live coverage continues in a moment with george hall at the cnn center the in atlanta and richard quest in new york. crohn's disease. evere i didn't think there was anything else to talk about. but then i realized there was. so, i finally broke the silence with my doctor about what i was experiencing. he said humira is for people like me who have tried other medications but still experience the symptoms of moderate to severe crohn's disease. in clinical studies, the majority of patients on humira saw significant symptom relief. and many achieved remission. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems,
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