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download the xfinity tv app today. i heard, bam, bam, bam. >> these people are running outside, says somebody's shooting, shooting. >> i felt something hit my back. the bullets entered by my backpack, hit my laptop. >> we have the shooter in custody at this point. >> the intelligence community's report on russian hacking concluded that, quote, putin and the russian government delivered a clear preference for president-elect trump. >> we are not going to tolerate a country like russia trying to interfere in our election process. >> we're going to take aggressive action to combat
cyber attacks and protect the security of the american people. ♪ good morning. good to have your company, i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. black to our viewers joininging around the world. we're following two developing stories, first, bloodshed at a baggage claim at an airport, new details about a firing on people. killing five. the question is who is estefan santiago. who led him to bring a loaded pistol into a crowd. and also, a declassified intelligence report that showed how the presidential influence campaign during the 2016. the goal hurt hillary clinton
and helped donald trump. we've got new information from the president-elect and the stunning report. ♪ and before we get to that let's talk about the new details we have for you on the deadly rampage inside that florida airport. the fbi intent fiing now, esteban santiago, an iraq war veteran, as the lone gunman who sent chaos. who can forget these pictures of people rushing out of the airport to try to get away. within the past hour, we understand, planes have started taking off from ft. lauderdale hollywood international airport. rachel, what are you learning at this hour, and good morning. >> reporter: good morning, christi. well, the airport here at fld 238d hollywood international has reopened. we've seen tsa agents lining up, getting back to work. passengers lining up to get to
security. stores reopening. of course, today, the focus for law enforcement officials will be the investigation. >> going off in the terminal. >> we're currently having a building evacuation at terminal 2. >> reporter: chaos and confusion at ft. lauderdale's airport. after a gunman opened fire inside a baggage claim area, killing five people and seriously wounding eight more. some people fleeing the scene ran away from danger on to the airport tarmac. >> there was one real close one next to me. and then there was four that i heard, bam, bam, bam. it was like boom. we didn't know what it was. everybody looked. then boom, boom, boom. and then people taking off. >> reporter: the suspect intent fied as 26-year-old esteban santiago apparently had a weapon in his checked bag. one source said he went to the bathroom to get the gun out of his luggage and came out firing. he was thain into federal
custody shortly after the attack. >> he's unharmed. no law enforcement fired any shots. the subject is being interviewed by a team of fbi agents and broward sheriff office's homicide detectives. >> reporter: this morning, new information about saints iago who through to florida from alaska friday. he served in the puerto rico national guard. the army reserve and the alaska national guard. he was deployed to iraq in 2010. where he received a combat-related honor. santiago was discharged from the alaska army national guard in august. law enforcement officials said santiago visited an fbi office in anchorage several months ago. he was accompanied by associates who were concerned because santiago said he was hearing voices. santiago told the fbi that an intelligence agency was telling him to watch isis videos. the fbi asked local police to take him to the hospital for a mental evaluation.
santiago voluntarily checked himself in. authorities are now working to determine the motive. and if it's terror-related. they say it's a complex investigation that stems several states. >> we are looking at all avenues. we have not ruled out terrorism. and we will be pursuing every angle to try to determine the motive behind this attack. and any associates, any connections, communication. >> reporter: now, as you mentioned, the investigation is spanning several states. and we do know that yesterday the fbi spoke to santiago's aunt who lives in union city, new jersey. meanwhile, here at the airport, at ft. lauderdale hollywood international airport, one of the challenges for officials will be returning about 20,000 bags and personal items that passengers left behind during the evacuation. christie. >> oh, goodness, rachel crane, thank you so much, we appreciate it.
now, there are obviously an awful lot of questions. >> yes, our tom foreman takes a look at the suspected gunman's path. >> this is the ft. lauderdale airport, based on everything that we've heard about this alleged shooter's travel plans, after laying over in alaska, in minneapolis and then here, this is where he arrived, terminal 2, specifically gate 5 at this terminal. if you move in closer, i can show you gate 5 is the one right back in this area. people on to the plane say the walk from here down to the baggage area would be about 50 or 60 yards, if he traveled the same way you'd expect somebody to normally travel on a plane like this. it would be a path something like this through the area down to escalator down here. and then down to the baggage area. the baggage area is right here. this is where he would have retrieved his bag with the gun in it, if the witness accounts are correct. people talk about him going to
the restroom. the walls were right over here. if that were the case, he could have gone in and come out firing roughly 45 minutes after the plane touched down. we do know some of the victims were in this area. what about his business about taking a gun on a plane. as a civilian you cannot do that in a carry-on bag but a checked bag. you must tell the airline that you're carrying a firearm. it must be unloaded. you cannot have any shells in the chamber or in the clip that's loaded on to its. it must be on a locking hard shell case. only you can have the key and combination, you can't have a whole lot of people with that information. lastly, if you are carrying ammunition that has to be locked up, many gun owners will actually lock it in with the gun itself. >> all right. tom, thank you so much. let's bring in cnn law enforcement analyst tom few went
tease for perspective tiff here. tom good morning to you. >> investigators are trying to determine whether or not this was an act of terror. they have not ruled out terrorism yet. what will they be doing to try to get an answer to that question? >> well, the first thing they'll be doing is talking to him since he did live through this and was captured unhurt and intact. aside from what he tells them, if anything, they'll be looking at everything else about him. the social media, computer, entries, searches, discussions with neighbors, colleagues, co-workers and discussions that he had in the fbi office in anchorage. and with the local police in anchorage, when the fbi turned him over for mental evaluation. at some medical facility. now, we may not know all of that, due to health privacy laws that may still be difficult to find out. and another aspect of this is, that sometimes, believe it or not, these individuals don't tell the truth.
so, even if he gives his reasons to the authorities, you know, overnight and today, doesn't necessarily mean that he's being accurate. he may not even know the truth. so this is going to depend on if he's mentally ill. and if so, how disturbed he really is. so, this is still going to be difficult to unravel exactly what he did and why he did it. >> that's a very thin line. you brought up this meeting with fbi agents in anchorage that was back in november when he heard voices telling him to join isis. that there were intelligence agencies telling him to watch isis videos. give us an idea how thin that line is to decipher between a man that thought he was doing something in the name of isis and someone who is just suffering with mental illness. where's the line to determine if indeed it was terrorism in his mind? >> well, you can argue that most people that join isis aren't sane in the first place. so you can have a combination. they're not mutually exclusive
to be mentally ill, disturbed and yet become a terrorist. but we don't know that. and we don't know, you know, at this point, a lot of people walk into fbi offices and into police stations and make all kinds of claims like that. and very often, they do the best they can to get them into some kind of mental health evaluation. so this is not the role of the fbi to, you know, take care of mentally disturbed people. that's why they turned it over to the local police. to look into. and take it from there. and i think that basically, we don't know if he actually thought he was doing this for isis. or wanted to do it for isis. or whether that was just an outlandish claim. you know that gets a lot of attention. and the mere word isis sa tracts a lot of attention. and the fbi even then would have looked very seriously intoes his background to see any evidence that he had already been radicalized. or was, you know, in communication with partners who
could be encouraging him to do a violence act. >> yeah. still so many questions that need to be answered very early in this investigation. tom fuentes, thanks so much. >> you're welcome. when it comes to taking guns on airplanes, officials say the florida shooting suspect, he did everything by the book. so, later, a closer look at air travel with guns and whether there should be changes now to the rules, in light of this attack. >> also, a russia-led campaign to undermine the election and the declassified intelligence report pointing at putin. the react from moscow this morning. they're calling it nonsense. and putting the blame on the obama administration. we'll have more for you, in just a moment. hoo! (snap) (snap) achoo! achoo! feel a cold coming on? zicam cold remedy nasal swabs shorten colds with a snap, and reduce symptom severity by 45%. shorten your cold with a snap, with zicam.
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that's the reason why the intelligence community found russia's intent was to help donald trump and hurt hillary clinton. here's what president obama said when he was asked about the conclusion of this new report. >> one of the things that i am concerned about is the degree to which we've seen a lot of commentary lately, where the fellow republicans who are pundits or capable commentators who seem to have more confidence in vladimir putin than fellow americans because those fellow americans are democrats. that cannot be. >> now to president-elect trump's reaction to the revelation in the intelligence report. top officials briefed trump on heir findings. the president-elect had praise for them following the meeting. he never specifically acknowledged that russia was behind it all. listen to jim sciutto. >> reporter: a declassified version of the intelligence community's report on russian hacking concluded that, quote,
putin and the russian government developed a clear preference for president-elect trump. russian president vladimir putin order an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the u.s. presidential election. russia's goals were to undermine public faith in the u.s. public process, denigrate secretary clinton and harm her electability and potential presidency. using several different techniques blending, quote, covert intelligence operations such as cyberactivity, with over vert efforts by russian government agencies, state funded media, third-30 intermediaries and paid social media users or trolls. the russian influence campaign began to focus more on undermining her presidency. following the meeting the
president-elect said i had a constructive meeting and conversation with the leaders of the intelligence community this afternoon. i have a tremendous respect for the work done by the men and women of this community to our great nation. however, he believes the hacks do not take his election victory. quote there was absolutely no effect on the outcome of the election. including the fact that there was no tampering what so far with voting machines. the intelligence team assessed that it was, quote, not involved in vote tallying. however in a statement, trump never specifically acknowledged that russia was behind the hack. despite the clear intelligence assessment, an overwhelming bipartisan agreement on russia's involvement. >> i think that's the one thing in the statement that he should have acknowledged. that whether you're a republican or a democrat, we are not going to tolerate a country like russia trying to interfere in our election process. >> now, donald trump and some of his surrogates have made the point that only the democrats
were hacked here and that's why only democratic material was released. but in fact, this report contradicts that. it says that the cyberops targeted both major u.s. political parties. because material stolen from the democrats only that material was released leading up to the election, it was in large part, because of that, that the community concluded that the intention here with the weakened hillary clinton and helps donald trump. jim sciutto, cnn, washington. >> jim, thank you so much. and what does this mean for the future of cyber attacks, potentially against the u.s.? and what did this mean for the incoming trump administration. we'll ask our political panel. two reporters with us -- after the break. take one.
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trying to bribing through the cyberinfrastructure of our governmental institutions, businesses and organizations. this seems to be what we heard from donald trump during the campaign who said it could be russia, china, a 400-man sitting on the edge of his bed. still no change. >> yes, all of that could be possible but what u.s. intelligence agencies are confident of is that this situation was russia. and they would like to see the president-elect are more aggressive in responding to the data that they presented to him friday. he seemed a bit more accepting of it, said he would form a committee soon within the next 90 days to address issues of involvement of foreign governments but i think his critics would like to see him are far more aggressive on russia and putin specifically. >> sarah, as said in this statement, that will be within the first 90 days of this administration, this group to come up with a plan to combat
cyberhacking and cyberwarfare. how does that correspond with the president-elect that we heard from a week ago when he says it's time to move on to bigger and better things? >> it's time to thread the needle. on the one hand, trump knows he needs to acknowledge the deficiencies in cybergovernment. but on the other hand, it's not in his interest politically to acknowledge that the election somehow lacked swelling grit and therefore his victory is now tainted and less legitimate than it otherwise would have been. in the same time, trump campaigns in following the ice between moscow and washington. he couldn't just go to the idea that russia could have been behind the attacks, among other attackers, and denying that those had a desired effect. it wouldn't be within his interests politically and fit with the foreign policy division he laid out during the campaign. >> let's talk about the
rhetoric, eugene, within the last couple hours, we have now seen a russian official echoing donald trump's arguments to criticize the finding from a russian official in the parliament there, he tweeted out, all accusations against rush yar based on confidence and assumptions. the u.s. would just as confident of the wmds hussein had. you'll remember that the trump team said, or trump himself, said in a statement of the intelligence community these are the same people that said that saddam hussein had weapons of mass destruction. now, we're in this place where russian officials are paraphrasing the criticisms of the president-elect against said president-elect's own intelligence community. >> exactly. and donald trump has been criticized for having more confidence in the russian government and julian assange than u.s. and intelligence agencies because of that. it's as important that that statement was made because it's
not a fact. these are not the same people. the department has been very intentional in clearing individuals and reorganizing since the war in iraq began. and that announcement was made about wmds. it's just not the same thing. i think along those lines, one of the most interesting things in that report, even if the intent was not intentionally to help donald trump, it certainly was to hurt hillary clinton. >> sarah, i want you to listen to what the former secretary of defense leon panetta said. his criticism of the intelligence community from the president-elect. watch. >> i think the bickering that we've seen going on, with regards to the intelligence dealing with russia and the questioning of the intelligence on that issue has, in some ways, damaged our national security. because it sent a message to our enemies that somehow, they can
conduct these kinds of attacks in the united states, and not pay a price for it. and that has -- that has to be very clear, that we are not going to tolerate that. >> from the former secretary of defense, that this criticism has damaged our national security. when you hear that, you think what, sarah? >> i think that that's the precise reason why donald trump has said he wants to put together this commission, to focus on cyberactivity. because following this briefing and the pressure that's being put on him by congressional lawmakers in both parties, he's coming to the realization that this might have been a very serious breach of america's cyberdefenses in ways that we haven't seen before. and he knows that he cannot let this go unchallenged. it's not in donald trump's nature to let anything go unchallenged. but certainly, that's part of why i think you see him moving toward addressing this. in a way that doesn't leave him exposed by acknowledging that
the russians might have helped him win the election unfairly. >> it's a tight rope walk through that statement. not specifically acknowledging that russia was responsible as the intelligence community says. and putin ordered it. but also saying that there will be a panel to combat the cyberhacking in the first 90 days of this administration. sarah westwood, eugene scott, thank you both. >> thank you. >> christi. >> with cnn next week, there's a town mall special with former presidential candidate senator bernie sanders. it's 9:00 p.m. eastern, he's going to discuss the strategy during the trump administration. he'll do so with chris cuomo. and on thursday, cnn's jake tapper joining a town hall from a live audience ahead of the inauguration on the 20th. coming up on this show, we'll learn more about the iraq veteran who is in jail this morning, accused of killing five
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bag and opened fire, killing five people at the ft. lauderdale airport. regular operations, we know, this morning have resumed. >> investigators determined he did that alone. they've determined that already. they have not ruled out terrorism. the 26-year-old vet spent nine years in the national guard. he was discharged last year for unsatisfactory performance. he had only minor inferences on his record. now he's set to make an naernt court on monday. >> as they try to pin down a motive for the shooting, the fbi is talking to santiago's family members. cnn's deborah feyerick is in santiago's hometown of union city, new jersey. >> reporter: fbi agents are here in union city, new jersey, they are questioning the opt of the alleged shooter. she told them that her nephew is a decent father. he has a young child. he was deployed to iraq in 2010,
when he returned, the aunt says he was acting strangely. he is the youngest of five children. they live in puerto rico as well as florida. he was 17 years old when he joined the national guard in puerto rico. he did serve in new jersey as well. he was given awards for service. army good conduct, as well as a commendation medal. and he was part of the national guard in august 2016 he was discharged from the national guard. several months later, he went to an fbi office sndz they had that intelligence agencies were telling him, were speaking to him. he said he didn't want to do anything violent. he was requesting and then handed over to in custody to local authorities who took him to a medical facility where he
was evaluated. now, fbi agents at the time, he did do an assessment. they looked at data bases. they also interfered family members. their assessment was closed shortly after that. however, right now, authorities looking very, very closely at all family members. they're interviewing him to try to figure out exactly what is going on with santiago. and why he did what he is alleged to have done. deborah feyerick, cnn, union city, new jersey. >> deborah, thank you. now, esteban santiago flew into florida on a flight from alaska. there was a stop in minnesota. law enforcement officials say he had to clear his gun in a firearms carrying case. guns are allowed, we point out, in checked bags. this is according to tsa policy but they're supposed to be unloaded and packed in a locked case. easily opened cases are not allowed. are not permitted. let's talk about this with cnn
aviation analyst mary schiavo. thank you for being with us. do you see any areas in this process where there are some vulnerabilities that could have been compromised here? >> well, certainly, and starting, of course, with the airline. alaska airlines actually has a rule that says if you're traveling with a rifle or shotgun case, that you have to present your claimed i.d. to pick it up at the baggage claim office. that would have been one more intermediary for this. he had a small hand gun in a checked bag which appears to be the case here, then that rule wouldn't have applied. and then the other rule concerns ammo. some carriers allow up to 50 pounds of ammo. alaska airlines is one of them that allows that much ammunition. if you're connecting and other rules that reduce that down to 11 pounds but that is probably 48 rounds at least, if it's a
quarter of -- if it's four ounces or so a shot. so that's just way too much ammunition. so there are a lot of things you can do short of keeping guns avenue of planes. remember, the united states department of justice has already said in a letter in 2005, when this issue was debated that they must be allowed -- you must be allowed to travel with your weapon as long as it's secured in a cargo hold. >> when you look at the laws that you just mentioned, do you believe there are any parts of these laws that need to be ammo. >> for now, what we have to worry about, will other people have the ideas as well, there are going to be copycats, et cetera. the right to transport your weapon, there are constitutional issues there. i don't think you'll be able to do that anymore soon. with guns on the planes. even the justice department has weighed in on that saying you've got to transport them because
you've got to be able to into interstate travel and the right to have a firearm. let's face it amazon can deliver anything, anywhere anytime. if you're going someone for target practice, shooting or hunting event. you would think you could have your ammo delivered on the other end on an interim process. now, i realize that the constitutional issues say that ammo could be defined as part of the right to carry a gun but for now, we always have the risk of copycats, i think we need to get the ammo out of the situation, until we figure out what to do. how to make it safer. maybe to have a claims process. a checked process on the other end to retrieve it. for now, you can keep ammo off a plane. >> i want to share video with all of us here. our viewers. we haven't seen this yet. i haven't. this is new video coming in. there are pictures here of his walk. as he was arrested and he was being taken into custody. these are first pictures we're getting of him. what do you make, mary, of these
reports that he had voluntarily checked himself into a hospital. he had voluntarily gone to the fbi and said he believes that isis was -- he was being talked to in his head by isis? what does that say to you about the fact that this man was able to get a gun and carry it on to a plane? >> well, that's one of the problems. we don't know when he had obtained the gun yet. if you obtain the gun before you report any psychological disturbances, not just whether you report it, it's whether you have an ajudged disability. a mental disability. we don't know where he had acquired it. we don't have a process in the united states where you're evaluated, you get your initial guns, you're legal to have it. and then something happens. we don't have a mechanism to trigger that without some sort
of adjudication. we don't know yet what his truly mental evaluation was or whether that's the truth or believe it or not or some people can simply say things. >> we talk about the public area where is this chaos erupted. i can't get pictures of some of these people of people running out, some of them carrying children. they're running on to the tarmac. do you believe there is enough security in the areas? >> well, there isn't. but this has been debated for lilt really decades. there were shootings, bombings in '60s, '70s '80s in baggage terminals, for example. the problem is increasing the perimeter and putting the check points farther out from the airport. then you've created another area where people will congregate and line up. here, that wouldn't have made a difference because this person flew with his gun and flew with his ammo. he would have been behind any
sort of perimeter security leading up to the airport. but in terms of people going out to the tarmac. in the simulations where you plan for these events, that's usually not the evacuation plan. the evacuation plan is to get them out of the airport. but here, since a threat was in the airport, while he caused mass chaos trying to get the airport up and running again, because you compromise the security of the entire airport, there's no sterile area left, that was the kinds thing to do. because people were taking people out to the tarmac to potentially save their lives. so i can't really facility the airport for that. i think that was really the only thing that could be done in that situation. you couldn't dump people out into the bag claim area where the thread was. so the tarmac was the safest place for them. >> absolutely. absolutely. no doubt about it. i see those images and i cannot help but wonder how these people are doing this morning. mary schiavo, thank you vetch. appreciate your insight. still to come -- i say still to come on the show -- a lot of people already have it, the
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advisories this morning. listen, this winter storm is ripping through the mid-atlantic. the northeast as well. the south too. snow, sleet, ice, rain warnings for alabama, georgia, north carolina and georgia's governors declare a state of emergency. >> national guard troops, we know, are on standby. there are thousands across the southeast who do not have electricity right now. but the southeast in particular is caught in the thick of this storm. it stretches all the way from arizona to the carolinas. just to give you -- you know, an image of how expansive this is. >> it's trug. keep in mind, temperatures in the south will not reach much above freezing. so the severe icy conditions are expected to stay around for a bit. cnn's allison chinchar is following the storm for us. even in atlanta, we've got a coating of ice across the area. >> i would change that word to more than just a little, victor. the problem is, it's causing big
problems, atlanta hartsfield-jackson airport under a ground stop right now. they're not allowing any flights in or out. that's something that we may or may not be seeing up and down the east coast. now, the forecast going through, all of the areas, including boston, new york, d.c. those are the areas that you see the impacts, heavy snow in and around raleigh, norfolk, virginia, this is the area where we will end up seeing some of the highest snowfall totals to come out of this. we're looking for potential for ice. in addition, we're still looking up and count east coast. including atlantic city, even new york, 3 to 7 inches of snow total when this is all said and done. the wind san issue. victor, you mentioned all of the ice. some places a quarter to half an inch, especially in atlanta. we have windchill advisories out for all of the areas you see out here. that may get extended as we go a little farther east. the problem is for all of those areas, like atlanta, birmingham,
even raleigh where they have this ice, you now have to worry about power outages because those trees and power lines will begin to snap. our polo sant dough value is in raleigh, with those trying to deal with the ice there as well. polo. >> reporter: what's interesting the expected snow. it's not really what is making getting around so difficult. it's that ice you that mentioned. and it's helping to keep people off the roads this morning, two reasons, it's saturday, it's not a commuting day. we're not seeing a whole lot of people out and about. also, people had time to prepare. we had people stock up on groceries and just stay indoors unless you have to be out working in all of this. that is the recommendation from officials. as you mentioned a few moments ago, ice, that's the big issue right now. that's what officials are trying to keep back. that's why the rain, sleet and snow it may not go anywhere soon, victor or christi, because we're likely not to warm up for
another two days or so. guys. >> stay safe. i know the exact intersection that you're standing at right there. it's busy at some point in the day. be careful, polo. >> you got is it. >>. we've got new detail information the case of these four suspects accused of torturing a special needs teen in chicago -- i should say a teen with special needs who lives there in chicago. including a scolding from a judge. we have that for you next. pens? pens, magnets, luggage tags, bumper stickers. how about foam fingers? like these? now, get 15% off making your company stand out. staples. make more happen. [bullfighting music] [burke] billy-goat ruffians. seen it. covered it. we know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two. ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪
new details for you on the torture of that man. this is something that happened in chicago and was live streamed on facebook. the four suspects being held without bail right now. the judge told them she didn't see a, quote, sense of decency in them. all four have been charged with alleged kidnapping because they allegedly asked the victim's mother for a $300 ransom. joey jackson, does this constitute a hate crime, because of the mental capacity of the alleged victim here, and because of some of the racial epithets that were thrown at him? >> good morning, christi. a horrific story, indeed. i really think it does. now, obviously in a court of law, they're entitled to due process. and they'll have that. they appeared before the court,
denied, as you mentioned, bail. and the process now begins. but in terms of the proof that the prosecutor has to proffer before a jury if it gets that far, they'll base that proof, on one of two things. either race, here we see a video that they're saying derogatory things with respect to the president-elect. with respect to white people. of course, we know that the victim has that mental disability or impairment of some sort. so on two grounds, according to illinois law, you can proceed on a hate crime. really what will be proven or the prosecution's verdict will be. is did they engage in behavior, that is, the defendants, in this case, the four of them acting collectively and jointly, did they engage in it, as we see there, christi, is it based on anything related to race and anything related to that impairment. it appears that they're entitle to due process. certainly from that facebook
video it appear that is the case and it will be up to a jury to make that determination. >> do you anticipate that the three younger suspects here, the 18 year olds, will attempt to incriminate the oldest by saying they were of course ordered by her? >> christi, in any case, when there are multiple defendants what you often times see is a pointing of the finger. i didn't do it, they did it. i didn't do it, she did. what you see is finger pointing as it relates to age, 18, yes, it's young, but you're considered an adult understand the law. so i think where the age will factor in, it will factor in in terms of what we call mitigation. it doesn't excuse anything. i think when you're younger, the defense attorney will argue. the proof here, it's very significant, the defense attorney will argue in terms of sentencing, we should point out, the aggravating kidnapping
charge, based on the ransom, it carries up to 30 years in jail. it's very significant. so i think what you'll see is an argument from the defense is that the focus for the 18-year-old should be on rehabilitation. some redeeming quality about them. so, they shouldn't be put in jail forever. so if they're convicted, i think that's the argument that you'll see. the fact that they're 18 does not excuse end a law, even though one is 24, any criminality at all. >> joey, one of the things that's so jolting about this is that they had the boldness, the audacity to put it up on facebook live. how does that element play into this. it does seem that this is new territory? >> it really does, as we see a burgeoni burgeoning, christie of technology. some uses, some uses quite deplorable as we see here. i think in a couple of ways, first of all, it shows intention. it shows they knew exactly what
they can doing, broadcasting it, laughing about it, broadcasting it, celebrating what they were doing, of course. that number one is the case. secondly, christi, it's very significant in terms of proof. you know, if a picture is worth a thousand words, we can imagine what a video is worth. so, in the event that, again it goes that far. there could be plea discussions, negotiations, et cetera, between the district attorney and their defense lawyers. but if it goes that far. think about it for one second, christie. you're on that jury. you see that videotape, what does it do to you? what does it do to your emotions? or feelings, your thoughts about who can possibly do some things? where are the humanity of it? i think it plays in very significantly, as far as the compelling innocence of the evidence that shows you know what they knew exactly what they were doing. >> which leaves to you think if
the defense will even let it get to trial. thank you, joey. college football, alabama takes on clemson for the championship. coy wire has a preview of big game coming up on monday. coy. >> victor, i played in big nfl games, tampa bay bucs at raymond james stadium behind me. but no game as big as the national game that's going on down behind me. teams arrive on monday. we'll talk to you more about the game after the break. keep from having another one. and i'm taking brilinta. for people who've been hospitalized for a heart attack. i take brilinta with a baby aspirin. no more than one hundred milligrams as it affects how well it works. brilinta helps keep my platelets from sticking together and forming a clot. brilinta reduced the chance of another heart attack. or dying from one. it worked better than plavix. >>don't stop taking brilinta without talking to your doctor since stopping it too soon increases your risk of clots in your stent, heart attack, stroke, and even death.
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alabama and clemson have touched down in tampa, you see what i did there -- toucheddown in tampa. >> uh-huh. >> -- ahead of monday's national championship game. >> coy wire is there. i get he's not even cold today. about a million of us are. hi, coy. >> good morning. nice breeze here right now. good morning, victor, christi. i'm excited here from thursday, actually. i remember arriving for big games like the rose bowl, you think about getting off that plane. long season. it all comes down to one final game. all eyes are on you.
alabama, clemson, they both arrived here yesterday. they're ready for a rematch. the clemson tide, the 26-game win streak. alabama's head coach nick saban going for his sixth national championship. that would tie him for the legendary coach bear bryant to be able to pull it off. clemson barely lost to bama last year. 45-40. they fought their way back to this rematch. coach about is bow sweeney has turned clemson into a perennial powerhouse. clemson and 'bama going toe to toe for the national title monday night. i cannot wait. the florida panthers honored the victims of the ft. lauderdale airport shooting by holding a moment of silence before last night's game with nashville. the team actually talked about postponing this game due to the tragic event but the organization felt it was important to move on, to play
on. several players like defenseman michael madison wrote the airport code ffl on his skate. he was sitting there five minutes away from the airport when he heard the news. he wanted to do something to recognize those affected. let's turn to the nba. one of the worst meltdowns you'll ever see. last night, golden state crewing up by 24 in the third quarter against memphis. but someone poked those sleeping bears. they came fighting back. the grizzlies, mike conley's a game-time jumper with seven seconds in regulation. that center it into overtime. listen to this, memphis never had a lead in this game until overtime. but they led when that final buzzer sounded. that's all that mattered. grizzlies shocked the warriors 128 to 119. 2-0 in the season. and today -- something else going on today, what is it? oh, yeah, nfl playoffs, baby.
raiders and texans get things start at 4:35 eastern. then the lions kicking off at 8:15. christi, the holidays are over but it's still the most wonderful time of the year. three days of football. finishing offer with the national title game. i love this time of year, christi. >> in your glory. we love to see that, thank you, coy. next hour of "new day" starts right now. >> and there were four that i heard, bam, bam, bam. >> these people started running out said somebody is shooting, shooting. >> i felt something hit my back. the bullet had entered my backpack, hit my laptop. >> we have the shooter in custody at this point it looks. >> the intelligence community's report on russian hacking concluded that, quote, putin and the russian government developed a clear preference for president-elect trump. >> we are not going to tolerate a country like russia trying to enter severe in our election