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ask how enbrel can help relieve joint pain and help stop joint damage. enbrel, the number one rheumatologist-prescribed biologic. top of the hour, pamela brown in washington in for poppy harlow. you are live in the "cnn newsroom" on this saturday. we begin with the desperate search following the mass shooting at the florida airport. investigators try to figure out why did a 26-year-old former national guards man pack a single handgun, fly across the country to fort lauderdale and allegedly open fire sending hundreds of people running for their lives? five people are dead, six are wounded. at least two of those injured reportedly shot in the head.
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we'll have more on the victims in a moment, but first, the latest on the investigation. the police tell us they're chasing every possible lead and exploring all motives and so far, haven't ruled out terrorism. >> we've conducted roughly 175 witness interviews. recovered video, physical evidence and we continue to pursue every investigative lead. we have not ruled out anything. we continue to look at all avenues and all motives for this horrific attack and at this point, we continue to look at the terrorism angle. >> cnn's boris sanchez at the ft. lauderdale airport. i understand you have new information about a visit the suspect made to the fbi before the shooting, is that right? >> reporter: yes, we learned they made contact in anchorage, back in november and we learned
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in the past few hours, sources telling cnn apparently visited the office with a weapon. apparently, the same weapon that he used in yesterday's attack here at fort lauderdale hollywood international airport. i asked with the spokesperson of the fbi yesterday if there was any attempt made to perhaps confiscate that weapon. after all, when he approached the office of the fbi, he told agents he was wearing voices and that those voices were telling him to watch isis videos. he told me he couldn't answer the question at that point and learning more about the shooter's personal life in an altercation he apparently had with his girlfriend back in january of 2016. she alleges that he strangled her and smacked her on the side of the head. he pled not guilty to charges of assault and criminal mischief or rather pled no contest to those charges and eventually went through a program and due in court in march likely to have those charges dismissed. aside from all of that, pam, we are hearing from family members
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of the gunman of santiago, his aunt actually speaking to cnn and telling us that after he served in iraq for about ten months when he came back, he wasn't the same. she also said he, quote, had visions all the time of very interesting picture of the shooter on top of that, as you mentioned, pam, the fbi is still investigating this as a potential terror attack so still a lot of questions to be answered. >> not ruling anything out at this early stage in the investigation. has the airport completely reopened? >> reporter: they're still working on that right now. terminal two to the right of me where the attack took place in the first level of terminal two is still shut down from what i understand, but the upper level, the departures level, people are being allowed now through security so it's only a matter of time before flights are let out of terminal two where they hadn't been earlier and finally, the full airport can be up and
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running again, pam. >> thank you so much, we'll check back with you soon. we have been able to confirm two people shot and killed yesterday in the baggage claim earlier of the fort lauderdale airport. one of them, a grandmother from georgia. olga with her husband about to go on a cruise. another name confirmed, terry andreas from virginia beach, virginia. his wife and him were on vacation celebrating his birthday. just a couple of movie people moving on with their life and then three others killed. six wounded before the gunman stopped shooting. ryan, can you tell us how serious is the condition of those wounded? >> reporter: we do know three remain in critical condition. they had a heads up from the airport that some victims will be transported. six in total transported here in critical condition and three upgraded so far. that's all they're sharing about those conditions. the governor who was here about
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an hour and a half ago told us that one of the victims he talked to said they were shot a few times but they still felt like they could keep running. so felt like that person's spirits were pretty high but the governor told them they believe one of the patients here would be released this afternoon and all the details he was willing to give but for the hospital ceo, he believes the people did a great job in terms of helping the patients who were in need. >> we do have six shooting victims. they range in terms of their prognosis but they're being supported by loved ones and the staff members and everyone who came through our doors with their life today and made sure they enjoy the gift of life. >> reporter: pamela, you've covered cases like this one before and i had a chance to talk to the ceo. they prepare for this all the time. they have the mass casualty situations so when something like this happens at the airport or somewhere else, they know how
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many patients are coming and a team on standby. the doctors and nurses, the heroes in this, arrived and all pulled up one another after, able to get each patient critical care especially when dealing with gunshot wounds and a lot of those staff members off ade and reach out to try to talk to them. right now, their critical need is to make sure they're addressed. and several times able to talk to the governor today, you know they're getting excellent care. >> absolutely right and far too often, that practice that they p prepare for these worst case scenarios become reality. thank you for that. next hour, the fbi's anchorage field office is holding a press conference. we hear more about the alleged visit in november and with me to talk about this, tom fuentes, analyst, and former assistant director of the fbi as well as juliet, cnn national security analyst and department of homeland security advisor.
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so tom, we've learned that back in november, the alleged gunman went to the field office and voices told him to watch isis videos. was this a missed opportunity in your view? >> no, pamela. it wasn't, because it's not the fbi's job to normally deal with mentally disturbed individuals. once they determine that they don't think the person is actually radicalized or about to commit a felony on the spot, but just having mental problems, they make a reference or turn over to the local police and the police deal with this almost on a daily basis. they know which medical facility they can transport the person to to try to have a mental evaluation. they know how to handle a situation like this. so standard procedure is once the fbi determines it's not a terrorist act in progress, they're going to turn this over to the local police. >> how does the fbi determine that? i imagine it's not always clear
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cut, initially. when you're doealing with someoe who comes in to say they're hearing voices and appears to have mental health issues and talked about isis. how does this fbi determine, okay, we don't need to worry about this person, this is just mental health? >> first of all, they deal with this surprisingly large number of times so they have a pretty good indication of someone even remotely serious but they look into it and look at this person's social media and background and maybe interview family members and at a point where they're learning that he's had a consistent history of mental illness problems since getting out of the military, i think at that point, they have a pretty good indication that they're dealing with somebody that needs to be treated for that mental problem and therefore, call the police and have that individual into a facility by the police. >> which is exactly what happened in this case in juliet, appears the fbi handled the visit appropriately in that view. so the gun, as we know, was
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packed, according to tsa guidelines. is there anything that could have been done differently, should have been done differently to prevent this? >> there's a couple of things that come to mind but of course, the investigation is ongoing. so what we think we know today may end up not being true, but at least if there is a strong suspicion by the fbi that he was on the plane with the intention of doing the harm upon arrival, it would be very difficult to stop something, someone as determined as that. now, there are some sort of fight or something that raised his temperature and got him to sort of explode, then maybe there are ways we could think about how are people trying to deescalate problems in airports, things like that. the other question is the military. we're so focused on the fbi and that's important to see what they knew and what they might
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have been able to do but there's a long military record and at least a lot of people, it's not easy to get kicked out of the national guard. and there's a lot of people in the military who may have known something about his mental health and what they did to help him given the systemic mental health issues occurring unfortunately with some of our veterans. >> as we know, his family has come out and said after he's spent time in iraq, he did exhibit mental health issues, posttraumatic stress but didn't get the help he needed and what strikes me, tom, is this is someone who proactively went to the fbi. he was taken to this hospital and voluntarily signed up for a mental health evaluation, but yet, he was still able to get his gun back, board this plane, and launch this shooting once he arrived in florida. should that mental health evaluation or any of these red flags have prevented him from
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continuing him to own a gun, tom? >> it takes more than a red flag to deny someone of their constitutional right to own a weapon. he has to be judged mentally ill by a competent authority and/or convicted of a felony and if that's not the case, as happened in this case apparently, when he checks himself back out of the hospital and he's not been judged as mentally ill, the police have no choice but to return his property to him which happens to be a firearm. and in this case, we just so many mentally ill individuals at large in our society and unfortunately, many of them have access to pierfirearms. >> the system is clearly broken. juliet, when you look, you take a step back and look at airport attacks in istanbul, brussels and now florida, are airports easy targets? what can be done to make them safer and so many go to fly? i've been there.
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what can be done to make them safer? >> security planning. really do think of layered security. you cannot think that any one thing, gosh, if we only put that stuff in or would be perfectly safe so we really think about open targets and airports also have hard aspects to them, of course. think about layering on security and things that can be done but basic part of that is also response communication and protecting the public and i do think that one of the lessons learned will be how much was communicated to people during the crisis, how quick was the response? those are the kinds of things we can do to also protect people but people shouldn't think that, oh, if we only did this, right, at an airport, then everything would be fine. airports are too dynamic. i remind people, every day, close to a million people domestically getting on and off of airports every single day in
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the united states. that is, those numbers are so overwhelm and unless you're willing to bring down the system which we don't want to do because we're a vibrant country, we are going to have a level of vulnerability. >> and like you say, it's not a one size fits all solution here. julian and tom fuentes, thank you for coming on and sharing your perspective. we do appreciate it. >> thank you. ahead this hour, election influence, our other top story. releasing classified information about how russia's president, putin, influenced the election to hurt hillary clinton and help donald trump and what's in the report, what the president-elect is saying about it. plus, the anti-inauguration. that's what cnn political commentator charles blow is preparing for. how trump supporters are reacting to his so-called tips for inauguration day. and a monster storm. 50 million people along the east coast under a winter weather
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going public with the first declassified report with the interference in the russian election. directly ordered a, quote, influence campaign and undermining hillary clinton and helping donald trump win the white house. president trump defended his long held belief that closer ties would be beneficial. tweeted today, having a good relationship with russia is a good thing not a bad thing. only, quote, stupid people or fools would think that this is bad. we have enough problems around the world without yet another one. when i am president, russia will respect us far more than they do now. and both countries will perhaps work together to solve some of the many great and pressing
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problems and issues of the world. all right. let's bring in ryan nobles. did he splab more why it would be good to have a better rettleship with russia, what did he say? >> it's interesting because the president-elect himself did heat with the various heads of these intelligence agencies where he got a briefing of his own and after that briefing, he did put out a statement where he did concede that russia may have been involved in some attempt to interfere in the united states election but since he put out that statement, he's been seriously downplaying russia's involvement and gone so far as to say the blame should be laid on democratic opponents tweeting this about his democratic opponents and what he's describing as a vulnerable network saying that gross intelligence by the democratic committee allowed hacking to take place and the republican national committee had strong defense. and trump emphasizing the
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aspects of the report that specifically reveal that this alleged russian hack had no impact on the outcome of the election and never gained access to voting machines themselves. but the president-elect's statements, pam, stand in direct contrast to some of his most prominent republican friends including house speaker paul ryan who believes that the house and the senate need to take a closer look at this russian involvement and push back that the russians did, in fact, attempt to get involved in this united states election. >> when you look at the report, ryan, it makes clear that the russians were successful in hacking into some entity systems but didn't disclose the information but it was non-successful against the rnc, apparently. how is the clinton camp responding to all of this? >> not a surprise at all, pam, they are criticizing the president-elect in the way he's handling this situation. robby mook tweeting this not too
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long ago, what is stopping the president-elect from accepting the intel community's findings? this will he accepts them, he's effectively siding with putin over the united states. and mook isn't alone in this comment. the former house speaker nancy pelosi releasing a statement along those lines. this could be a hot topic this week on capitol hill because we're going to start to see some of these confirmation hearings for trump's important members of his cabinet including his nominee for secretary of state rex tillerson. the former exxon ceo. he has close relations with russia and vladimir putin in particular. you can expect tough talks on those topics zl thank you very much for that. and next on this saturday, a national security expert who said the intel report, russia is playing, quote, dangerous game and worried that our next president is failing to take this seriously enough. you're live in the "cnn newsroom."
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president-elect donald trump says no evidence in the newly declassified u.s. intel report shows that russia's meddling affected the u.s. election's outcome. the report does conclude russia's president putin directly ordered the interference but plans to improve u.s. relations with
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russia when he takes over the white house 13 days from now. let's talk it over with global affairs analyst senior national security correspondent for the daily beast. kim, thank you for coming on. you tweeted, oh, i'd hope mr. president-elect, you'd realize russia is playing a dangerous game and are biding your time to respond. guess you didn't see it that way. explain what you mean by russia playing a dangerous game and what kind of a response you'd like to see from trump. >> i'm reflecting what i've heard from intelligence professionals, both current and former and national security policy makers who worry that trump is focusing on the fact that no matter what russia did, it helped him, it didn't hurt him. he's ignoring the evidence they presented him behind closed doors that shows this maligned campaign. the concern is you take this down the road when russia starts doing something that is in russia's interest, not in trump's interest, it always
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behaves in its own interest like any country does, that the president-elect then commander in chief won't believe his intelligence community when they lay it out for him. consider what he saw behind closed doors. we're all looking at the unclassified report. included transcripts of phone calls, e-mails of russian officials show in the intelligence community's belief they wanted to throw this election and it didn't seem to phase him. >> and according to this declassified report, russia not only hacked the democratic national committee but republican affiliated groups but only released info on democrats, not the republican side, so could this mean that russia could have leverage they're saving this perhaps? >> that has been muttered darkly
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by some of the trump campaign ra trackers. i haven't seen proof of that. you could say perhaps that trump is playing by moscow rules in that he has a larger game plan. he's hiring many people for his cabinet who have been anti-russia in the past. who have even been banned from russia such as former senator dan koets who is nominated to be his director of national intelligence. so these people have moscow's number. so the hope is that maybe he's being publicly towards moscow while quietly biding his time until he's president and then going to have both a carrot and stick approach to moscow. at this point, insufficient information to know. >> he tweeted today that it's a good thing to have a good relationship with russia, that perhaps two countries could work together and solve some of the
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world's most pressing problems. does he have a point here? >> you know, previous white houses have tried to warm the relationship with russia to accomplish things just like that and remember that moscow and the current white house worked to remove the majority of the weap weapons of mass destruction from the syrian regime and only possible because russia convinced its client state and bashar al assad to give up the weapons. you could argue the syrian civil war would be worse right now if those kind of weapons were still available to his regime. so can the two nations work together for good? in the past, absolutely it's been possible. but we'll have to see how trump handles or makes deals with putin in the years to come. >> thank you very much, kim dozier. the cost of securing the president-elect with his lavish properties including in new york city. this week, i sat down with the
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current u.s. service director joseph clancy for exclooifs interview, his first since trump was elected and asked to set the record straight on reports that others have taken on the role of protecting the incoming president. here's what he said. >> there have been reports out there basically saying that donald trump kept his private security even after he was elected. is that true? >> first of all, let me just say that the secret service has a sole responsibility of protecting the president, vice president, first family, et cetera. under u.s. code 30.86, we have the authority and mandate and only the secret service has the authority to protect these individuals and we only work and not meetings or advanced meetings or not armed. they're more of a staff function than a security if you thinfunc.
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we don't interact with them. >> if there was a threat, they wouldn't interfere. >> that's correct. we have our own plan for the president-elect and no interaction at all there. >> no concern of friction or might be? >> no, no friction at all. >> and i also asked him about keith stiller, considered the bodyguard before will have a prominent role but tells me he will be acting more of a liaison than having any role in protecting the president. in the meantime, on this saturday, relatives of the alleged gunman in fort lauderdale say the warning signs were there, he snapped as a result of posttraumatic stress order. we'll discuss that possibility with a psychologist who was worked with military veterans. up next, you're live in the cnn newsroom. d 26 vitamins and minerals. for the strength and energy to get back to doing... ...what you love. ensure. always be you.
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departing from terminal who where the deadly shooting took place yesterday. the first time since friday's rampage and the baggage area still closed. five people were killed and six wounded in the shooting allegedly by one man, esteban santiago. cnn has since talked to his brother who said santiago had mental problems which he links to his brother's combat deployment to iraq. i want to talk to terry lyalls, a psychologist and stress coach. thank you for coming on. you have said before that people who experience traumatic stress can no your word snap. would it surprise you that this violence is linked to this man's military experience? >> no, not necessarily. i live in fort lauderdale, actually minutes away from the airport. i was in some of the melee yesterday. it's tragic when this happens.
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our thoughts and prayers out to the family, but i hate to say, it's not uncommon that stuff like this happens because of the trauma. it's dependent how the trauma was released in the mind and the body and i think from the military standpoint, we work on how to better debrief individuals that go in and out of combat. i go with a group of warriors, trying to understand how does this cycle work of debriefing individuals so that we can mitigate this situation from happening in the future? >> and it struck me, terry, that the suspect proactively went to the fbi this past november saying he was hearing voices and that voices were telling him to join isis. he then voluntarily understood went a psych evaluation less than 72 hours but then released, got his gun back. in your view, how did the system fail? >> well, you know, the system is constantly changing, going to continue to change because of
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the world that we live in, obviously, our world has changed over the last several years and i think when something is flagged in the mental health world, there needs to be separate steps taken to guard against this especially if it's a military person that we know has a track record. obviously, he was seeking help. he was released, it seems, early, and we've seen this kind of thing happen before and i think it just shows you that our system has gaps in it or blind spots that we really need to take a look at. it's not the weapon's fault and not necessarily this person trained in weaponry but the usage and the mindset after trauma and unprocessed trauma can lead the all kinds of situations, unfortunately, like we saw yesterday. >> and we know that investigators have been interviewing him since the shooting rampage. what will they do to determine whether he is indeed suffering from ptsd and how might that factor in to all of this? >> i think there's going to be a
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continuation of debriefing now especially. we saw this with beau bergdahl and others i talked to repeatedly on cnn and we don't know until we get more of the information but obviously, there's more attention to it around him because of what's happening. the sad part is that that theeds to to be going on before this happens, before tsa was formulated and homeland security before 9/11, our system continues to change and augment which is a good thing and just shows you we're not there yet. we have to keep working at the problem, be diligent and still make our system better but not just blame the system but work to repair it from the local services system. >> far too often, we have these conversations after the fact and talk about the solutions that should go into place. thank you very much. >> you're welcome. for donald trump and his supporters, inauguration day will be a moment of celebration for for opponents moment of anguish. also an opportunity to protest
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check your blood sugar levels daily while using toujeo®. injection site reactions may occur. don't change your dose or type of insulin without talking to your doctor. tell your doctor if you take other medicines and about all your medical conditions. insulins, including toujeo®, in combination with tzds (thiazolidinediones) may cause serious side effects like heart failure that can lead to death, even if you've never had heart failure before. don't dilute or mix toujeo® with other insulins or solutions as it may not work as intended and you may lose blood sugar control, which could be serious. toujeo® helps me stay on track with my blood sugar. ask your doctor about toujeo®.
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we are just 13 days from donald trump being sworn in as the 45th president of the united states. while inauguration plans are in high gear, for those who did not vote for trump, the ceremony may have a different feel. let's talk it over with charles
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blow, new york times opinion columnist and jeffrey lord, former reagan white house and trump supporter. great to have you both on and have a feeling this could be a fiery segment, so we'll have to see what happens. >> never charles and i, never. >> particularly when talking about charles' recent column called "the anti-inauguration" and this column, charles, directed to trump's opponents and here's what you say. the point is not necessarily to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power but to deprive it of oxygen and eyeballs, to plant a flag of resistance firmly at the opening gate. it doesn't mean that people won't attend or watch, they will, but every station that carries it, as many will, should teal the impact of your absence. share your anti-inauguration day recommendation for trump opponents. >> i believe that citizenship is an act.
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that you have to be actively engaged in your democracy to survive and if the presidency or the candidacy and soon to be presidency of donald trump has threatened things that are important to you, principles that you hold dear, then it is really incumbent upon you to do something to support those causes and those principles and to send a signal to this president, this incoming president and this congress that you have a position and it is a strong one, that it is not about passive and sitting around pouting and hashtags, but you are actively engaged as a citizen and you want to make your voice heard. that's really incredibly important because resistance without action is dead. >> your reaction to the anti-inauguration tips. >> first of all, i hate to do this and shocked my friend
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charles but i agree with him that's part of the citizenship, totally. but i must say from a political standpoint, i really hope they do this. i'm old enough, alas, to remember richard nixon's first inaugural and all type of protests in the streets, anti-war and anti-nixon protests. all it did was help richard nixon and i would say there's nothing better than getting a bunch of elitist rich liberals in the street to protest the working class votes who voted here in pennsylvania and across the country in places like ohio and michigan and wisconsin to reaffirm they made the right decision so i hope they go out and do it. >> elitist rich liberals, charles? >> my view is this. protest i think is part of the american expression and people should be able to do that and do that as much as they want but in addition to that, i strongly encourage people to do other things. the number of people who even
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know their representative is abysmally low. as often as you tweet or post on facebook, you could tweet to your own representative, and it doesn't have to be a diatribe. it just has to say, you are my congressman, you are my senator. i expect you to vote this way on this piece of legislation that i understand is coming your way and to hold them accountable for that. if there's a cause that you know is under threat, whether that be women's access to a full range of reproductive rights or that is kind of immigrant causes or that is lgbt issues, no matter what it is, there are people out there doing the work and will be deprived of funding, and under tremendous pressure in this administration and you can help them. you can volunteer your time, you can give your money. you can send a note of encouragement. all of those things are really
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important to do and it's not just the idea of showing up on one dayed and protesting but protest every day. >> we want to pivot to other topics but donald trump as we know has not officially taken office and not officially the president yet but the president-elect. should people wait and see what he's going to do in the white house instead of protesting on inauguration day and assume he's going to do certain things. he hasn't had the job yet. or is it fair in your view to go ahead and protest? >> there's something he has done. he has, in fact, attacked a lot of different groups in america. and those people have every right to take him at his word, to take his hostility that he has aimed at them and to remember that that was real for them and that he has promised to take that from the campaign i o
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into the white house and amassing a cabinet that reinforces these views. are we waiting to pretend he didn't say something that he already said? i don't understand the idea of like, let's wait to, we see that he has told us who he is. and we're not supposed to believe him. i don't understand the wait thing. >> okay, let me pivot to something else because my colleague, manu raju, reporting several of trump's cabinet nominees still have not been properly vetted less than a week before hearings begin on capitol hill. a government ethics letter to democratic senators and a source telling cnn the nominees are trump's homeland security pick, education security pick, commerce security nominee, wilbur ross and housing and urban development nominee ben carson and it's about getting the nominee's current disclosure reports and that hasn't happened. should the hearings be on hold
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until that happens? >> i think they should get on the ball with this. the republican senate, as i recall, confirmed president obama's or the the senate republicans in accordance, i think seven of president obama's cabinet appointments on the day he took office or the next day. so i think we should get on with this and this ties into what charles is saying earlier here. i mean, these are people who took, you know, the case to the american people, they won the election, and so just as people have a right to be in a street, in the streets, they need to get into their cabinet positions and start acting and taking action on the program and the platform that donald trump ran on and then the two of them will come together. you will see more people in the street or less people in the streets. the argument will proceed from the there.
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>> disclosure is an issue not just with these particular cabinet picks but the whole trump administration. and we have to keep saying this. we have not seen this man's tax returns. >> it's a fair point. whatever debts he may owe to banks in other countries that may be closely assigned. we don't know, so much that we don't know and we're basically, there's a hand in our back that keeps saying, just keep moving forward, don't worry about it. don't worry about it, but we should be worried about it. >> does it feed into the larger issue that we haven't seen those tax returns, we haven't seen everything? go ahead. >> and i have to say, and i disagree with this all the way through the election. i don't think donald trump should ever released his tax returns, period. i think we've gotten so caught up in this stuff in the last 40 years to knno useful purpose an
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this is something presented by, if you will, the political class. what about political conflicts of interest? there are other conflicts of we never even go there, it's not even on the table. i just think that this has gotten out of hand. we've got 36 presidents of the united states or more that never had their finances checked before they were elected to public, elected to the presidency and we survived. jfk and franklin roosevelt and lincoln and all these other presidents, particularly the wealthy ones who may have had a lot of interesting things going on in their fninancial background. >> on a lighter note, it appears there's a picture of reagan still behind you, you've had this behind you all along. will this ever be replaced by president trump? >> when he gets his official portrait, i hate to not have
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something ragen in a segment with charles blow, because i know he looks forward to it all the time. i want to count how many times you've said reagan. >> that will be quite the day when you switch off that picture. >> all right. jeffrey lord, charles blow, great to have you both on, thank you. straight ahead, 50 million americans on the east coast facing a winter weather advisory or warning. one of those cities is where we find our polo sandoval. >> it's been a soggy and snowy day here in north carolina, but finally a small break in the clouds, even some sunshine a little while ago. the worst could still be ahead according to officials, we'll tell you why coming up next. rodney and his new business.
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a widespread winter storm has blanketed much of the southeast with snow, freezing rain and ice. but forecasters say it is nothing compared to what's coming to the mid-atlantic and northeast tonight. right now, ten of the lower 48 states are currently under some sort of winter storm advisory. the national weather service says it is impacting 50 million people. stretching from the mid-atlantic to the northeast. last night, snow swept into metro atlanta, birmingham, norfolk and raleigh, north carolina, that's where cnn correspondent polo sandoval
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joins me now. what did you wake up to this morning? it looks like a lot of snow. >> yeah, a lot of snow, pam, but before that snowfall came the rain, came the sleet. and it covered many of the roads around the durham area. you could still see it on top of the roadways here. as we take an even closer look. you can see kind of what looks like, pam, you know it well you've seen it in washington, d.c., this mucky, slush that begins to accumulate on some of the roads. the problem is that tonight the temperatures are going to continue to drop. go down into the single digits. and temperatures going to stay at below freezing for the next two days or so. according to several meteorologists. which means all of this mess is likely to harden, likely to freeze. and the threat of black ice could ling near tuesday. which means when people head back to work at the beginning of the week, the threat will linger. >> seeing snow in a lot of places, including here in washington, d.c. we'll be right back.
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top of the hour, i'm pamela brown in washington. in for poppy harlow. we're following two major developments on this saturday afternoon. yesterday's deadly mass shooting at a florida airport as two investigations play out on opposite sides of the country. one in the alleged gunman's state of

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