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washington's fair werewelfarewe. we have a lot of news, so let's get to it. although conflict of interest doesn't apply to the president-elect, it applies to jared kushner. >> president obama's nominees met all the standards and trump's nominees have not. >> those are false charges and distoretions of anything that i did. >> i am terrified the republicans will repeal the affordable care act. >> the concentrated interactions and experience you have here, i don't expect can be duplicated anywhere else. >> this is "new day," with chris cuomo and alis alisyn camerota.
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you have nominees for attorney general and homeland security chief. and his son-in-law raising questions today. how will they get around federal nepotism laws? all this as president obama delivers his farewell to the nation tonight. and let's go to trump tower in new york. >> reporter: get ready for a packed schedule for confirmation hearings, and expect fireworks, but having said that, the president-elect said he's feeling good about what is to come. the president-elect says he's confident in all eight of his cabinet nominees, facing confirmation hearings this week. >> the confirmation is going great. i think they will all pass and i
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think every nomination will be at the highest level. >> the controversial pick for attorney general, jeff sessions first up, followed by retired marine corps general, john kelly, and he wants to appoint his son-in-law, as senior white house adviser that is raising lots of questions. top democrats on the house judiciary committee calling for a review of the appointment arguing the anti-nepotism law leaves kutcher ineligible, and in the meantime kushner is divesting a significant number of assets including all foreign investments to comply with government ethics rules, something the president-elect has yet to do. an official briefed on the
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transition says kushner will not take a salary at the white house. >> i am certainly pleased he will be in the role. i find him to be a lot more reasonable and moderate. >> it's not clear what role kushner's wife, ivanka will have, or whether the first daughter will have a west wing office. that's when trump will hold his first conference in nearly six months where he is expected to be pressed did his conflicts of interest. >> it's very simple and easy. >> and whether he accepts the conclusions of intelligence agencies that russia meddled in the u.s. election. >> we'll talk to you about that at another time. >> you have the confirmation hearings and the president-elect holding that much-anticipated press conference, and in addition to that tonight you have president obama giving his farewell speech, and certainly,
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alis alisyn, there will be no shortage of political news to report on. >> that's right. we will be busy all day, and, well, for the next few years. confirmation hearings getting under way soon on capitol hill, and history will be made at the hearing for attorney general nominee, jeff sessions. we're live on capitol hill with more. how is this going to go? >> reporter: this is something that never happened up on capitol hill before where you have a sitting senator testifying against another senator, cory booker saying it was not a decision he made lightly to do so but the immense powers of the attorney general combined with the deeply troubling views of the nominee, and based on his record i lack confidence senator sessions can honor this duty. it's unlikely this will derail
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or call into question sessions confirmation in front of the committee, but there is some history here for sessions. this is the same committee who rejected his federal court judgment in the '80s over allegations of racially insensitive comments in the past, and sessions in addition to his remarks today will make no mention of his controversial past but will defend his civil rights record at large and will say i understand the history of civil rights and the horrendous impact, and the denial of voting rights have had on our african-american brothers and siste sisters. also happening today is the confirmation hearing of general john kelly for secretary of homeland security committee, and
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it's the expected he will be confirmed. >> perfect segue. our guest, a member of the senate committee of foreign relations. perfect guest for us this morning. general kelly, you told the administration you thought he would be a tremendous choice for secretary. why? >> well, just his background, 45 years of serving this nation, a four-star general and a gold car parent, and his duty was head of southern command and if you look at the threats facing this nation, and our totally porous southern border and so much is porous because of what is happening south of the border, and in many respect he was america's number one diplomat to all the countries in this hemisphere. he assembled and got the presence of the countries together and he understands the danger of the drug cartels
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combined with transnational criminal organizations and he knows the region and the threats and he is a very serious individual and willing to speak truth to power as well, and he will tell this administration and congress exactly what he believes and that's a good thing. >> we may see that right out of the box, right? one of his concerns is going to be cyber security. he has very different ideas about the threat that russia poses than our president-elect does, and how do you reconcile this? you have the president-elect who won't accept the intelligence from the community and their investigation, and you have kelly that says putin is one of the biggest threats facing this country? >> i think you take a look at who president-elect trump is nominating. i think just taking a look at who he nominated, he wants that discussion, and he wants to fully vet issues, and then he will make the decision, and when something came across clear in general kelly's response to our questions, 70 pages worth, and he will in the end follow the
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command of his leader but he will push back and tell the president exactly what he believes and from my standpoint, he has a lot of good thoughts on what we need to do to secure our border. >> do you know where he fits in terms of how he feels of what is going on on the intelligence of russian hacking and what is going on? >> he will be asked about it. he believes as most of us do, and i think the president-elect does as well, intelligence gather something our first line of defense to keep this nation and our homeland safe. chris, i am troubled by the leaks out of apparently the top people in the intelligence community, politicized leaks, and i was one of the 12 members of congress in the first secure briefing in september where the administration, and this is jeh johnson and comey and monaco assuring we have it covered, and the election is going to be legitimate and the message out of this briefing out to be this is going to be a good election, and nobody can hack into the
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election system to change votes and we need to assure the american public and then the wrong person won and you have leaks and this administration and the intelligence community is putting into question the legitimacy of this election. >> let's balance that out. >> people are playing politics. >> during the election, trump was baiting about soros owning the voting machine and his people were putting that out and he was saying question the legitimacy, and you still have to deal with the conclusion, and do you believe the conclusion that russia motivated the attacks? you are on the senate foreign relations committee? >> i have not gotten the briefings yet. >> you could. >> maybe today. i was back in town before christmas to interview general kelly before i went to israel, so i asked the intelligence
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community to brief me on what they had and they refused to, and we went to a briefing in the foreign intelligence committee and there were none at that, and i have been concentrating at the hearing and i will be briefed later today on exactly what the intelligence community has on this, and it renews your reports on the declassified, not a whole lot of meat. and we will see if in the classified there's meat backing up their conclusions. the briefs, i was briefed before the election, and no matter what the result, because we need to move forward and we need to have that peaceful transition of power, and give the next administration a chance to set up an administration, and get the nominees confirmed quickly. that's one of my points here today, napolitano, secretary -- >> janet napolitano?
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>> she was confirmed the day the -- >> don't you have to balance the timing with the vetting? is general kelly's complete package in? >> yep. >> he is complete in terms of the ethics office being able to vet him? >> yes. >> everybody has their package complete? >> seven of his nominees, president obama's nominees were confirmed on the day -- >> with all complete vetting packag packages, and that's relevant. the analysis falls into what is going to happen with obamacare as well, and i get the political currency of following through on a promise to repeal, but this is such a complex system, as you well know, senator, that you repeal and you get political points and you may take a big hit later on. >> first of all, i have taken flack a couple years ago when i
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started talking instead of repeal and replace, which i thought was impossible before the implementation, and once implemented the strategy is what we had to do was first repair the damage and transition to something that works, and there's a lot of damage to be repaired to obamacare in wisconsin, and individuals on the individual market have seen their premiums double and triple and out of pocket maximums doubled and tripled, and subsidiz subsidized -- >> we talk about it, but -- you are dealing with a portion of 2 million out of 30 million covered by the plan. you don't want to make it sound like everybody is getting hit with price hikes when they are not? >> a lot of people are. double and tripling. >> that's true. >> and the part of obamacare governed by the market reforms. we need to address the market
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reforms and ask serious questions and get real information -- >> i agree with all of the questions, but will you vote for a repeal if you are not confident in the replacement? >> i will vote for the budget reconciliation -- >> that's the first step? >> yes, i will support that. but what i would like to see is us vote on the replacement elements. let's take a look at the specific markets -- >> do you think you can get it done by january 27th? >> no, i don't. i don't. we need to lengthen out the process. >> talk about something people are not talking about it, the idea of not getting it done is a quiet voice. >> the repeal is not a full reveal, and it's leaving the market reforms in place, and it's the market reforms causing premiums to skyrocket. i want truth in advertising here -- >> you can't pay for lifetime caps and pre-existing conditions. >> lifetime caps is a spaul percentage of the premium
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increase. maybe 2%. >> it's an important protection. >> and it's the pre-existing conditions, that i think we can guarantee the guarantee, and we already have high deductible plans, but to give the subsidy to those individuals and make them responsible for holding that and then they can move into high risk pools. it worked before with high risk pools and obamacare wiped those out. >> they can be very expensive also. you are always welcome on the show to talk. >> come back more often. >> always happy to talk about what the media keeps quiet. president obama as you know is set to deliver his farewell address tonight from his adopted hometown of chicago. what can we expect from the president's big speech? we have a preview with athena? >> we know the president is working up to the last minute on
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this speech and has gone through at least four draft wz his chief speechwriter and it's his last speech as president in the city of launched his political career so it's not surprising to see him work up to the last minute on it, and he is getting help from his long-time friend, david axelrod. he will echo what we heard from him more than a decade ago, hope, and he will spend time reviewing what the white house views as his successions of his presidency from job growth to work on climate change, and he will talk about the challengeings in the future, like fairness and justice and diversity as strength and some of those are themes that will likely see something of a rebuke to what we heard from the president-elect on the campaign. >> thank you for that preview. president obama is trying to
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country fair well from his adopted city of chicago, and the goal of his speech will be to end his time in office with optimism and hope. here to reflect on whether that's possible as well as president obama legacy, is j.d. vance, author of "hillbilly elegy,". you have an interesting opt ed in the "new york times" talking about how president obama surprised you. you made a prediction when he first came into office that ended up not being accurate. let me read it for everybody.
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i suspected there were skeletons lurking in his clauosetcloset. i secretly guessed before the end of his term some major personal scandal would reveal his family life to be a sham. how are you feeling today given that he has become this sort of pillar of a family man? >> sure, well, he obviously surprised me in a good way and i think it's important to contrast president obama's legacy to president clinton who i came up in politics paying attention to for the first time and what happened with president clinton, and i think what was so important about president obama is he came from pretty stuff circumstances himself and whether you disagree with his politics as i do or not, he was a really good husband and father, and i think that is setting an important example for
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kids who grew up like i did. >> jay, beyond having a scandal-free presidency in terms of personal lifescan dulls, what do you think president obama's legacy is? >> i think that it was scandal free beyond his personal life. the man's integrity and decency and optimism about america that he embodied and pursued will be his legacy. for those of us that got to work for him and with him, it was one of the most profound positives of the experience that every day you came to work in the white house and you knew that the values that emanated from the top were patriotic and pure in a way that had become, as j.d. mentioned, seemingly rare in modern american politics. it was incredibly gratifying to that that experience.
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every day i sat in those rooms in the west wing and i realized this was an entirely human enterprise, and it was an honest and sincere effort driven towards the idea of making america better and improving the lives of everyday americans, and that's why you want to be there. it started with and ends in many ways tonight with barack obama. >> i don't want to relitigate the entire eight years, but obviously republicans don't think it was scandal-free, and i understand that was your perspective, and j.d., it's always interesting to talk to you because of your book, "hillbilly elegy," your family personifies the working class in the rust belt that turned away from democrats in this election and voted for donald trump. what do you think all of your folks are feeling at the end of president obama's eight years? >> i think a lot of them share my personal admiration for the president, and a lot of folks are looking to turn the page
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politically, and one of the failures of the obama years is the failure to recognize both from democrats and republicans this sense of real crisis that a lot of americans feel, and if you think of the last 15 or so years of politics this way we sort of have these big swing elections from one party to the other and i think we are in the middle of that, in the middle of a very long political moment where folks are very, very unhappy with how things are going and are constantly looking to turn the page, and i think that is one of the legacies of the president is that he lived in this moment where there was this constant swing to him and to his party, but now away from him and away from his party. >> jay, how does he address that tonight? will he acknowledge there's a big divide in our country, and his presidency didn't do anything to mend that rift? >> i think that's his greatest regret, or, you know, the source of his greatest disappointment
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as president is his hope that the partisan politics, the politics of division that he had seen before he arrived in the white house could somehow be repaired in a way that, you know, brought us together, and instead, as you said, it's only gotten worse. i think j.d. is exactly right about where we are politically in the nation, that we tend -- when i was a record and we in general as observists tend to look at election results to look at them in the future when they are meaningful in the moment. in 2004, there was a lot of analysis that said this was going to solidify republican control nationally for years to come, and two and four years later the opposite happened and when barack obama was elected in 2008, the same thing was said about the obama coalition and
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democratic solidifiation. i think it does -- people are always looking for change and improvement over what they just experienced because no single leader and no party is able to fix all of the ills that they are experiencing, and there's a lot of impatience that is understandable out there. >> j.d., your family in the rest but, the poor, the working poor, or working class at best, how are they feeling today? are they hopeful we turned a page? are they jaded? what is their feeling as we approach this new presidency? >> well, it's probably a little bit of hopefulness, and also a little bit of jadedness. i do think that there's a sense that folks don't expect things to get better overnight, and that speaks to a certain
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cynicism of the political process and the direction of the country, and a lot of folks feel their guy one and they are hopeful he will do things that make their lives better and the real verdict of course will come over the next few years. >> what do you want to hear, jay, from president obama? what is the thing you really want him to hit tonight? >> what i have been struck by and i have seen him a few times in the last week, is how he has really been a beacon of optimism for a team of people that worked for him and with him and for supporters of his over the years, you know, who are pretty upset and disspawnedant in the wake of the election, and his idea has been we can make progress and it's never in a straight line and there will be setbacks, and i think i will hear tonight a surprisingly optimistic speech that says, you know, we worked as hard as we
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could for eight years and did a lot of good things and passing the baton over, and don't be fearful, and keep faith, and move forward. that's what i expect to hear. >> jay, j.d., thank you very much for your perspectives and previewing this with us. nice to see both of you. >> thanks. >> back to chris. we have a really important and interesting situation going on. the president-elect is testing an anti-nepotism law by tapping his son-in-law to be a senior white house adviser. what does the law say and not say about a west wing role? what is going to happen with conflicts of interest? very big question and we have a great panel for you ahead. your insurance company
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president-elect donald trump named son-in-law, jared kushner of senior white house adviser. is that a big surprise? nope. but is it a big problem? maybe. why? because although his son-in-law played a major role in the campaign, there are potential ethics conflicts and this law that was passed in 1967. let's get with our guest, david druker, and matt lewis. so the law, david, is vague. that's scary when you are in politics. there was one decision in 1993
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involving hillary clinton but it was not on this issue, it was about the faca and whether her health care thing was an advisory committee, and it was in the weeds, and the judge said i don't think the law meant it was about him putting his wife in the white house. >> when it has not been tested it's hard to make a decision where it's going to fall, and politically it's about whether or not the voters feel like he's getting the job done. this is how washington works. everybody in town that wants to do business with the republican congress and the new white house they will rush to the trump hotel on pennsylvania avenue, and trump is not asking them to do it and maybe doesn't want them to do it, and maybe he
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does, and in washington when you are doing deals and trying to advocate for legislation or against legislation you want any edge you get, and dropping that i am staying here, meet me here, they will see that as a way to facilitate what they want on the back end and i think that's the danger for trump. in the immediate, he's going to make a lot of money because he's president of the united states. >> matt, here's what we do know about jared kushner, he plans to resign from the management position at any companies, and as a conservative are you concerned about him becoming a senior adviser stp? >> no, i think it's a good thing. nepotism thing, i don't have a problem with it and i think he is probably giving trump good advise, and i think he may have
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a calming affect compared to some of the other people that might otherwise be whispering in trump's ear. >> look, i think part of what we are trying to deal with here is how effective is jared kushner going to be? >> he's a young man and never been in politics before and a lot of currency is based on the son-in-law intimacy value, and trump will trust him, and how do you think it plays? >> we know that trust does -- we know that trump does trust jared kushner and jared played an effective role during the campaign and the question is what kind of gatekeeper will he be in the white house, and does he have a relationship with his father-in-law such that he can tell his father-in-law, no, i don't think that's a good idea, and i don't think we could be critical of him because trump
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trusts him, because that's who the president needs around him, and -- >> doesn't seem like it's being done right now, so if the past is any predictor of the future, i don't know who tells president-elect trump what to do. and the ethical standard is sepl pwhrepbs of impropriety, which means if it looks bad is it bad. how do they pass that test here? we know kushner has made more than one person to meet in with the president-elect and who he did business with and recommending them to do something for the government and how do you satisfy that this person doesn't have an obvious conflict? >> because the trump brand is so ae vick wow tuesday, i don't think you can pass this test with your opponents and there are things trump can do to separate himself from his businesses. jared kushner is resigning his
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positions with his companies, and separating himself. i think that the question is will trump separate him and his children from the business while he is in the white house and turn it over to an independent executive who would make all of the decisions the same way presidents and politician wz a lot of money separated themselves with investments while being in office, and trump has been hesitant to do that. he talked about the need -- he basically said they elected me knowing i am a businessman and i don't think it's necessary i do this, and trump, the people he is hiring they are going through normal channels, and you are seeing them separate themselves from business dealings and the question is does trump ever feel motivated to do it. >> let's talk about this, matt. between jared kushner and the state of confirmation hearings
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with jeff sessions beginning today, and is there anybody that is not going to pass muster? >> i would say whether it's strategic or tprau taoudious, i think they are clogging up the zone. president obama is giving a speech, and donald trump is giving a press conference, and a lot of news, so how -- they can't do everything, right? they have to pick their spots. but if history is a predictor, the odds are somebody, that one of these trump nominees will stumble or there will be something coming out in the vetting -- >> you think there could be an impediment with one of mr. trump's picks? >> i certainly do. history seems to indicate, one person, will hit stumbles and it
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could be tillerson, and you could have bipartisan opposition, and you could have mccain and lindsay graham and marco rubio join with democrats if they don't like what they hear about what he has to say about russia. >> they may unearth something during a confirmation hearing -- >> yeah, you have an article with tillerson, the business tillerson did with iran, and the problem is as rucker was speaking to it, when you have people with such intricate developed business lives and relationships, this begins to be a sticky wicket when you are doing this kind of analysis. we have never seen anybody like trump and eisenhower was the closest and his business concerns were nothing like trump and are they going to have to create a new standard? >> the voters will create the standard ultimately. if democrats decide to treat
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trump's nominees as equally bad and in a sense none of them are bad. you have a better chance of succeeding to say i prefer to confirm none of them and most of them are acceptable and these two or three are out-of-bounds. >> the republicans can do it. >> thank you very much for the bottom line and great to talk to you. we want to tell you about this developing story. police in orlando are vowing to find the killer that shot one of their own, and we have the latest on the manhunt for you next. start here. or here. even here. and definitely here. at fidelity, we're available 24/7 to make retirement planning simpler. we let you know where you stand, so when it comes to your retirement plan,
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time for the five things to know for your new day. confirmation hearings about to begin on capitol hill, first up jeff sessions attorney general hearing, and in the hot seat, retired marine corps hero. and the trump team says a pick does not violate the nepotism law and wants the justice department to review this appointment. president obama will deliver his farewell address and returning to his hometown of chicago to reflect on his accomplishments and legacy.
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so this morning members of the congressional black caucus is gathering to rehang a controversial paging, and duncan hunter removed the artwork on your screen from its spot in the capitol, and some lawmakers criticized this painting because it depicts police as animals. and legal action is threatened for taking down the painting. and let's welcome our host, ben ferguson. i don't think we should discuss the legality, basically the theft, and that would be the congressman took it and kept it away, and he delivered it to the congressman's office, and the
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issue is it should be on the wall? >> if this congressman wants it to be up in his own office that's his right, and if he wants to have something like that that depicts officers as big pigs, he can do that, but when you put it out there where others are walking around, and the government should not sanction something in washington that depicts police officers as pigs, and many are african-american killed and shot in the duty. >> this was the winner of the national congressional art competition. they hold this every year for decades, and they vote around the country, and this was a high schooler who depicted this from missouri, and whoever wins, it's from every state, that painting is put up in the halls of
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congress and this is how it has worked for decades, and i think you are being a little politically correct saying anybody that you don't like or depicts a controversial image should not be hung and that's not the tradition or spirit of this? >> i think if you look back at past winners, i highly doubt you have a policeman depicted as a pig before -- >> yeah, and it's not if you don't like the subject matter. >> i don't have a problem with this hanging in his office -- >> the rules of the competition is the national winner hangs in the halls of congress publicly? >> i think you should relook at the rules and decide that you don't allow defensive artwork, and what if it was a negative image of the united states
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president, barack obama or trump, should that be hung? this goes back to what are they standing for? they are taking time today, when they are supposed to be doing the work of the people, taxpayer pay their salaries to put up a piece of artwork that attacks the police and depicts them as pigs? that's not a message we want to send to young people. >> that's the problem, ben, and joe casper the chief of staff of hunter says if it's rehung on the wall there he would not take it down again. so we have to factor that in, and you are dealing with a very tricky problem here, one, you have an aspect of art, and nobody is questioning about this young man and the right to display it -- >> yes, that is. >> the right to be displayed is not being questioned, where they are displaying is what he is
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talking about. how do you avoid this problem, this slippery slope of how we only show what we feel? you say not in the halls of congress and not where the taxpayers pay for it, and others argue that's exactly where it should be even though it's offensive and will bother people because that's how you get ideas in a democracy? >> here's my point. i don't think we should have artwork hanging in the halls of congress that depicts police officers or the military in a negative light when they protect and serve and put their lives on the line and when you dial 911 they come and help you and save you. i think this congressman knows that and i think this is grandstanding by the congressional black caucus to somehow be relevant today and start a race-type of conversation. this is wrong and it should not hang there, period. >> ben, thank you very much for your perspective on this. >> look, it's a tough one
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because it's not easy to like. nobody likes to see police being depicted that way, or at least they shouldn't, but what is the right thing to do? tweet us at new day or post your comment at facebook.com/newday. how about good enough next?
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it's time for the good stuff. retired army vet hodges has been dealing with a leaky roof for a long time and he is unable to fix it himself because he is bound to a wheelchair because he was shot six times when somebody robbed his store. the veterans project heard about his situation and two local roofing companies did the right thing. >> i really think we need to do more to take care of our vets. i think, you know, you have to put your money where your mouth is. >> can't thank them enough for them spending their time doing it, and great to have people doing stuff like that out of the kindness of their heart. >> because of your sacrifice to this country. the veteran is expected to be able to return home with a new roof over his head next week, alis alisyn. >> chris, that is beautiful and a wonderful story.
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let's lighten it up a little more. the calm kwreubgz jumping into the feud between president-elect donald trump and meryl streep. >> yesterday, a u.s. navy destroyer fired warning shots fast approaching iranian naval ships, so of course, our president-elect tweets at about how overrated meryl streep is. >> he was too focused on jobs to pick a fight with a celebrity. just kidding. trump tweeted, meryl streep, one of the most overrated actresses in hollywood. >> you can pay footsie with a dictator, but calling merle
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streep overrated? no. >> that was a terrific town hall, and hurry back, we have a lot to cover this week. >> see you soon. >> cnn's special coverage of the confirmation coverage begins right now with tapper and wolf blitzer. i am jake tapper life in washingtons. >> i am wolf blitzer. we want to welcome our viewers from around the states and around the world. the outgoing president takes stock, and the trump administration takes shape. and the first of the confirmation hearings on those nominated to trump's cabinet. up first, jeff sessions for attorney general of the united states. overnight we learn he faces a

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