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this is all very vice president joe biden. remember we were watching the farewell address in chicago, joe biden is a scrappy kid from scranton who became delaware's favorite son. >> it can't be a surprise if it's actually on cnn don't you think? that's my service. >> thank you for that, but we do have breaking news. the justice department's internal watchdog, the inspector general is launching this review how the fbi and the justice department handled the investigation into hillary clinton's private e-mail server among the myriad of her alleged misconduct, you have this investigation into hillary clinton's e-mails just 11 days before the election, pamela
brown is handling this, tell me more. >> reporter: there are more that the watchdog will be looking at. the big thing will be how the public was notified into hillary clinton's private server, one of the allegations is that the fbi director handled it improperly when he came out this past july and said the investigation was closed and said there was no evidence to prosecute any wrong doing and that she was reckless, he allegedly precedence into breaking the news, and because of information that came to light, the inspector general will be looking into information
surrounding the letter so close to the election that was a break from justice policy and at the time the attorney general warned the fbi director not to do it but the fbi at the same said it did so because it promised congress it would notify them if there were any updates in that investigation. also according to the statement released by the inspector general he will be looking at whether the fbi deputy director andy mccabe should have recused himself from the investigation. his wife had been running for the public office in the state senate and it was revealed that there were hillary clinton s supporters who donated to her campaign, once he lost her senate race no running for office, it's an allegation that the inspector general will be k looing at and the communications between john podesta and the
department justices assistant attorney general for department of affairs, you may recall the wikileaks there were communications between the two men, peter kadzik, he was communicating with him right before the election saying there was a hearing about hillary clinton's private e-mail server and giving him a heads up and people said that was improper and a conflict of interest to be any communications between the two and the inspector general will be looking at allegations that the fbi and employees improperly disclosed information. this comes from both sides of the aisles that both republican and democratic lawmakers as to whether it was handled the investigation properly, the white house today said it had nothing to do with this probe that's been opened by the watchdog. we've reached out to the clinton
camp and no word an we're expecting the fbi in moment to release a statement into this probe. >> we know you will be on it, pamela, thanks. it's a lot to take in. i have jeff toobin, dana bash, and tom fuentes, so, great to have all of you. and dana bash, listen, you have covered this all throughout, this was the reason why the hillary clinton camp feels they lost the election. what comey did. it's like just when the chapter you thought was closed, boom. back open. >> uh-huh. that's right, look, we should say that a lot of people inside the hillary clinton camp people who were hillary clinton voters think that others think that it's because she didn't have an actual economic message that appeal today the traditional
democrats and others, i think this even republicans did not help, particularly a couple of the many things that pam just laid out that the inspector general is going to look into the now i guess famous infamous comey decision to reopen the investigation 11 days before the election and then close it and say never mind we didn't find anything, his decision not to prosecute. so all of those things certainly are going to be looked at by the inspector general. this is what the inspector general of any agency is supposed to do. when there are questions there are allegations that things were not handled properly and there are calls, bipartisan calls for an investigation, that's why this independent watchdog from within an agency exists. so, i think that we should all look at this and say this is a good thing, this is the way we
want our government to operate. so many questions about how long it's going to take, obviously what they're going to find and whether it's going to be some not such great things for not just perhaps jim comey who has so many years left while he's still supposed to be the fbi director but maybe even the way the clinton campaign operated as pam just said allegations of improper discussions between john podesta and campaign chair inside the justice department. so what it does mean is that this chapter is going to stay open and not make the soon to be president very happy who clearly acts out every time he thinks somebody is questioning the legitimacy of his election. >> you would echo what dana said we have an i.g., but does this i.g. have a job on january 21st? >> this is a interesting question to which we don't know
the answer, they will political appoint appointees. his job ends on january 20th however there is a tradition that system presidents allow inspector generals to stay on and complete. one of the questions that jeff sessions will surely be asked now even though he's completed his testimony is will he allow this investigation to continue? will they appoint a new inspector general? will they give this investigation to career employees within the inspector general's office whose jobs do continue? i think this is something we all agree on this is perfect for what inspector generals are supposed to do, but does it continue in the new administration? all of that is unsettled, i think. >> also what about james comey
if he's under investigation, points of recusal or not? >> the inspector general of the justice department has jurisdiction over the fbi, so there's nothing unusual and the fbi being ininvestigated by the inspector general. the other points i think people may not know is that inspector generals don't have any power except to write reports, they can't prosecute, or fire anybody. >> they pass it on to the authorities. >> right to people who can prosecute. but they themselves can't do that. >> as a former fbi guy, is this really about getting the fbi reputation -- james comey was criticized by both republicans and democrats depending on the day about getting the reputation back on track. >> that's true, brooke, but one of the issues is not just will the inspector general still be in office next week on january 20th but the scope of this
investigation if they go into everything that's mentioned in the memo about what they're going to look at will actually take longer than the fbi's investigation of the e-mail, so you're talking about going back into the way they investigated it, what happened with that, department of justice, did their officials conduct wrong doing, did comey do the wrong thing with the statement on july 5th and interviews and letters to congress, it's actually bigger than the original case. >> gloria, what do you think? gl. >> maybe i should ask our legalist here, but you have jeff sessions if confirmed as attorney general saying he wants to recuse himself with anything regarding hillary clinton's remails ar e-mails he said i said some
things during the campaign that i ought to recuse myself. if he's the attorney general, does the new attorney general then say okay, i can't decide what happens to the i.g. or what happens to this investigation because it has to do with hillary clinton's e-mails? >> i mean you know you do end up having a problem. >> sglgloria you raise a interesting point because he did say he will recuse himself, when the attorney general recuses himself is that the deputy attorney general takes over, he won't have a deputy attorney general right away. >> they don't work for the attorney general, so attorney general sessions will not have a position to tell the inspector general what they can or cannot investigate. they're actually an entity of
congress. >> i'm listening to all of this, this person recusing, this person saying no, an i'm left wondering what about the investigation itself? the crux is look into the fbi and what comey did just before the presidential election because that's worth looking into, yes? >> yes. >> okay, we all agree on that. >> and you want to save the reputation of the fbi whether you agree with what comey did or don't, it has now been placed in partisan waters and i think if you want to save the reputation of the agency as nonpartisan this is exactly what needs to be done and let the chips fall where they may. >> it's not just the reputation of the fbi but also the department of justice because they have to approve the special sensitive techniques used by the fbi so when they start talking to fbi investigators they may hear there was improper political influence bio officy s
at the department justice. this may be a whole new layer trying to conduct an investigation with one hand tied behind its back. >> we have lots of questions, we have to leave it. my true thanks to all of you. we are still waiting for this ceremony here, this farewell thank you ceremony at the white house here, live pictures where we will see of course the first family and this is all for the vice president joe biden getting a sendoff momentarily. also the cia pick, when it comes to his views on torture and russia note it doesn't necessarily line up with candidate trump. more on that coming up.
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the u.s. senate is about to vote on a crucial waiver for donald trump choice of secretary of defense retired general james mattis will need it since he's only been out of active duty three years, the senate just granted the waiver but now needs a full approval. >> so there's no sense of vulnerability or invince buiabi. there must be a much broader approach. this requires an integrated
strategy so you don't squeeze them in one place and they develop in another and we really are right back to square one. we have to have an integrated strategy on this and one that goes after the recruiting and fund raising as long as delivering a military blow in the middle east, i would see maintaining the strongest relationship as possible with nato. >> thank you. and are you concerned about some of the statements president-elect trump has made with respect to our historic european allies and nato and have you had a chance to have discussions with him and how confident are you that he recognizes what you have just said about the importance of those relationships? >> senator, i have had discussions with him on this issue, he has shown himself open, even to the point of asking more questions going deeper into the issue about why i feel so strongly. and he understands where i stand. >> do you plan to oppose women
serving in these combat roles? >> i have no plan to oppose women in any aspect of our military. because the u.s. military is devoted to be in the top in its game in a competition where second place is last place, we should not simply be turning to the military because it's a very capable military, well led, it's now a national treasure, i'm the first to admit that but doesn't mean we should be turning to the military to answer all our concerns with relations with the world. >> let's go to barbara at the pentagon. a lot of that hearing was about russia, what did mattis say about putin and how does that square with president-elect trump? >> you saw general mattis say he believes donald trump will listen to him and his views about all of this, but throughout the hearing general mattis was on a very different
page than donald trump. he called russia a principal threat. he said that russia, putin was trying to break up the nato alliance. repeatedly said what the russians are up to around the world. >> i'm all for engagement, but we also have to recognize reality and what russia is up to and there's a decreasing number of areas where we can engage cooperatively anden an increas number of areas we're going to have to confront russia. >> vladimir putin runs the place, runs their military and jim mattis was not the only trump nominee on capitol hill sounding this concern. in another committee mike pompeo up to be cia director expressing
his concern, very clear-eyed about what he thought russian involvement was in cia hacking and general joe dunford is in new york meeting with donald trump briefing with him and general dunford who will be his military advisor has already said he is skeptical about russia and general dunford calling them an existential threat saying it's alarming so it's really interesting, you are seeing this whole lineup of top advisors to donald trump with very different views. if he's trying to set up a team of rivals a business motto coming with differing positions but the discussion will be in the event of an emergency or contingency, do you really want
to sit around the table arguing about it all? >> i can tell you that trump's nominee for cia director also wasn't on the page. here is more from congressman mike pompeo. >> if you were ordered by the president to restart the cia's use of enhanced interrogation techniques that fall outside of the army field manual, would you comply? >> senator, absolutely not. moreover i can't imagine that i would be asked that by the president-elect or then president, but very clear i voted for the change ta put the army field manual in place, i understand that law very, very quickly and also deeply aware that any changes to that will come through congress and the president. >> and regular order. >> and regular order, yes, ma'am, there's no doubt in my
mind not only on the d.o.d. but the central intelligence agency and i'll always comply with the law. it's pretty clear what took place and russian involvements to hack information and impact american democracy, i'm very clear about what that intelligence report says and have every expectation to develop the facts i will not only relay those to the president and the team around him and to you all so we can have a robust discussion to take on an enormous threat. >> dana bash and lieutenant colonel francona. the waiver in fact passed. 81 to 17. you're supposed to have seven years in between active service
wearing the uniform and have a post like secretary defense they were able to pass it because there was only three and a half years in between. to barbara starr's note and note of others and when you listen to pompeo and mattis and others whether it's torture or iran or russia or even the border wall, the nominees do not appear to be on the same page as the rhetoric we heard from donald trump on the campaign trail. does that concern you? >> i think it's being reversed in a way because president-elect trump was the one who got elected and he picks individuals who he believes are competent and will give him good advice. but ultimately it's the president's policy not that of the secretary of defense or secretary of state, so either they will make their case to him in which case if he says no, as
mr. pompeo said i will not follow the order and they will resign or they will follow it and carry out the president's direction, but it's president-elect trump who make it is policy, it's a good way to flush out what they think, but ultimately it's what the president-elect thinks and not them. >> dana, what do you think? >> i completely agree that the buck stops with the commander in chief. the fact is that this is somebody who has never been in an elected office, he's never been in a position dealing with these issues ever. he's a successful businessman that's the reason he got elected to deal for the most part with jobs issues, with trade issues and things like when is north korea going to launch a missile or should we remain really active in nato and on down the
line he just doesn't have experience on that, so my understanding is that is why he went to great lengths to elect general mattis and 81 senators voted to change the law that congress put in place to make sure a fundamental democracy civilian leadership of the pentagon said you know what that shouldn't apply to this guy and by the way why democrats did it is because he's so good we want him next the president trump and just making routine decisions on where to send men and women in the military, so my understanding is as much bravado that donald trump has he wants to rely on these people with this much experience which is
why he nominated them in these national security jobs: >> i think an overwhelming majority said yes to general mattis, this is someone who has spent his life serving this country, bipartisan and beyond, i'm sure you were listening to his confirmation hearings what did you make of his responses? >> i think he's being very pragmatic and i think it's essential we get somebody like that in the secretary of defense position. as dana has mentioned there's been a lot of bravado, rhetoric disturbing talk coming out of the president-elect's office and if you can get somebody like general mattis that can emealate some of that, and explain what the situation is on the ground
and i think the general was right about the russians he used a very interesting word, he used the word "confront" the russians, and that's something a little different from what we have been hearing lately. so i have to agree with everybody else that the president is the one that has to be convinced by these people he's appointing and why it is essential to have strong leaders in these situations. >> senator, you have done the hours an hours of prep work, you served this country, but when it comes to russia specifically and we all were listening to president-elect trump finally said yes, it was russia who interfered but critics pointed out wasn't strong enough language, does he need to take it a step further as president, his words on putin and russia?
>> i think he does. i agree completely with general mattis and others that russia must be seen as a potential adversary or enemy on certain issues. we need to find areas of cooperation but ultimately president putin has a very different agenda than ours so he will have to be tested economically, diplomatically and even militarily in the baltics and elsewhere, but ultimately i think president-elect trump once he sits in that oval office and has people like general mattis and pompeo and maybe even his new secretary of state, rex tillerson i assume, but whoever it is they will present to him the complexity of the issues as they exist in real world rather as part of the campaign rhetoric and i have to believe that president trump is going to want to be successful and to ignore
advice of people who have been around the world then he does so at his peril, so i except the president to at least modify some of his positions, he's the one who sets it but i think will modify it consistent with the reality of the assistance he gets. >> asked whether or not they respect the intelligence community hearing these questions peppered throughout the hearings. thank you all so much and again just to underscore the news, this so-called mattis waiver, the senate has passed the waiver to allow general mattis to serve, and now goes on to the house for a vote tomorrow. still ahead. waiting for joe biden. the room is packed. the cameras set. just waiting for the man of the hour and of course the president
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quick flash to the white house as we are waiting for this big farewell thank you ceremony for vice president joe biden, the room is set. we'll take it as soon as it begins. but president his plan to lead over management and trump organization in a trust run by his two adult sons and says he will not talk to them about the organization as long as he's president.
the president-elect also doesn't plan to sell any of the stake in the trump brand but the office of the government ethics says it is not okay calls it wholly inadequate. >> the plan the president has announced doesn't meet the standards that the best of his nominees are meeting and that every president in the past four decades has met. he's going to be asking the men and women in uniform to risk their lives, so no, i don't think a vestiture is it too high a price to pay to be president to have united states of america. >> how is this going to fly? >> the head of the ethics office is saying it is not a blind trust, not even close, the key is that because the president-elect is not going to sell off the businesses he's going to know at least in the back of his mind what his interests and stakes are in the
various branches of his business empire. he says he won't speak to his sons, eric and don junior, but that's just leaving it up to the president-elect and your trust, what is going up in the ears of journalists is we don't know, and we have never seen what happens inside the black box, and it's sort of another version of that black box the president-elect is essentially saying, trust me on this, trust me. >> okay, it's up to folks if they want to, to your point the with antenna raised. the $1 billion, did -- truly lose a bet. ? >> the paper reporting that
george -- supporter of many progressive causes he expected for a bear market. expected a big market selloff, made a series of market trades anticipating a decline in markets as a result of a trump win and of course that paid off in a very bad way. according to the journal to a tune of a billion dollars lost because as we all know the markets have all been on a surge. the dow dropped drastically that evening and when donald trump gave his speech, they surged. so the journal says soro is personally out a billion dollars. i'm sure he's not the only one and because of a status of liberal causes i think some trump supporters really enjoying that story today. >> i'm sure they are clicking on that headline in glee.
thank you very much. the pictures here, waiting for this special sendoff that the president will give for the vice president. known for his sensitivity in loss and grief, and also his approach to anyone's malarkey. >> with all due respect, that's a bunch of malarkey. >> why so? >> because not a single thing he said is accurate. >> that's all simply a bunch of stuff. >> what is that stuff? >> we irish call it malarkey. >> you come to the white house i will buy you the beer. >> the notion that somehow because i'm a man that i don't know how to raise kids, or sure
one is going to make it -- you all love them equally and have a slightly different relationship and beau is my soul, beau is my conscious, he was the little boy when he was six-year-old, he was 30-year-old. >> there's not one single corner. oval. oval. >> let me show you, that's where the president sits, this is where i sit. the vice president. same exact chair. one difference, a lot of power in that chair. >> he's trying to tell us he cares about the middle class? give me a break, that's a bunch of malarkey, that's someone i would like to take behind the school. >> -- joe hasn't, but --
white house we got sound in, senators leaving the closed door meeting topic being russia here is democratic senator dick durb durbin. >> there's never been any question that this question goes straight to the top to vladimir putin, i'm not disclosing anything that's classified. and when you look at the breadth of it it is not limited to going after the doc and john podesta, the only good news we have is that they didn't infiltrate the voting process of this, but they did everything short of that. >> -- they're going to look into the e-mail investigation and the d.o. d.o.j. do you agree with that and look how the vaginvestigati
was handled. >> yes. >> why do you think that. >> i think steps were taken that were not precedented, did not ever happen before. his statement about the opening of an investigation, the closing of an investigation i don't think was fair, professional or consistent with the policies of the federal bureau of investigation. >> does it threaten his job, sist sir. >> he serves at the power of the president. [ inaudible ] >> i read on the materials and i have access that other members don't and there was more details today. and i came out of this thing, i thought it was terrible and thought it was even worse and if we don't take it seriously, shame on us. >> thank you. >> thank you. let's go straight to the hill to manu raju, give us a little bit of context, we know what it's about with regard to russia but tell me more.
>> reporter: look, this is the first time most senators have heard the level of detail that republican and democratic leadership have heard and the president-elect have heard and president obama have heard about the extent of the russian hacking and things that allegedly happened during the elections. remember when this -- when this classified report came out, that classified report is what actually most member of congress have seen so far, but what happened they don't really know the details so it's interesting to see dick durbin -- forgive me manu, let's go to the white house. >>. [ applause ] ladies and gentlemen, the president and vice president of the united states. [ cheers and applause ]
>> i don't want to embarrass the guy. [ laughter ] >> welcome to the white house, everybody. as i have already delivered my farewell address, i will try to be relatively brief. but i just want to get some folks together to pay tribute to somebody who has not only been by my side for the duration of this amazing journey, but somebody who has devoted his entire professional life to service to this country. the best vice-president america has ever had, mr. joe biden. [ cheering and applause ] this also gives the internet one
last chance to talk about our bromance. [ laughter ] this has been quite a ride. it was 8 1/2 years ago that i chose joe to be my vice-president. there has not been a single moment since that time that i have doubted the wisdom of that decision. he was the best possible choice, not just for me, but for the american people. this is an extraordinary man with an extraordinary career in public service. this is somebody the people delaware sent to the senate as quickly as they possibly could. [ laughter ] elected at age 29, for more than a dozen years apiece, he served as chair or ranking member of the judiciary and foreign relation committees, domestically he championed landmark legislation to make our
communities safer, to protect our women from violence. internationally, his wisdom and capacity to build relationships has shaped our nation's response to the fall of the berlin wall and the iron curtain, to counter terrorism, iraq, afghanistan. and for the past eight years, he could not have been a more devoted or effective partner in the progress that we've made. he fought to make college more affordable and revital ize american manufacturing as the head of our middle class task force. he suited up for our cancer moon shot, giving hope to millions of america americans touched by this disseidi disease. he led our efforts to combat gun violence and he rooted out any possible misappropriations that might have occurred. and as a consequence, the recovery act worked as well as
just about any large-scale stimulus project has ever worked in this country. he visited college after college and made friends with lady gaga for our it's on us campaign against campus sexual assault. and when the pope visited, joe was even kind enough to let me talk to the holiness as well. [ laughter ] behind the scenes, joe's candid honest counsel has made me a better president and a better commander in chief. from the situation room to our weekly lunches, to our huddles after everybody else has cleared out of the room, he's been unafraid to give it to me straight. even if we disagree. in fact, especially when we disagree. and all of this makes him, i believe, the finest vice-president we have ever seen. and i also think he has been a lion of american history.
the best part is he's nowhere close to finished. in the years ahead as a citizen, he will continue to build on that legacy internationally and domestically. he's got a voice of vision and reason and optimism, and love for people, and we're going to need that spirit and that vision as we continue to try to make our world safer, and to make sure that everybody has got a fair shot in this country. so, all told, that's a pretty remarkable legacy, an amazing career in public service. it is as joe once said, a big deal. [ laughter ] it is.
but we all know that on its own, his work, this list of accomplishments, the amazing resume, does not capture the full measure of joe biden. i have not mentioned amtrak yet or or literally. [ laughter ] folks don't just feel like they know joe the politician. they feel like they know the person. what makes him laugh, what he believes, what he cares about, where he came from. pretty much every time he speaks, he treats us to some wisdom from the nuns who taught him in grade school. or an old senate colleague. but, of course, most frequently cited catherine and joseph, senior, his mom and dad. no one's better than you, but you're better than nobody.
bravery resides in every heart, and yours is fierce and clear. when you get knocked down, joe, get up. get up. [ laughter ] get up. [ applause ] that's where he got those broad shoulders. that's where he got that biden heart. and through his life, through trial after trial, he has never once forgotten the values and the moral fiber that made him who he is. that's what steels his faith in god, in america, and in his friends and in all of us. when joe talks to auto workers whose livelihood he helped save, we knew the man who had the pain of telling his kids he lost his job. when joe talks about hope and opportunity for our children, we
hear the father who rode the rails home every night so he could be there to tuck his kids in bed. when joe sticks up for the little guy, we hear the young man standing in front of the mirror reciting yates aa tempting to get rid of a debilitating stutter. we hear a kindred spirit. another father of an american veteran, someone whose faith has been test and had force today wander through the darkness him he self and knows who to lean on to find the light. so, that's joe biden, a resilient and loyal and humble servant. and a patriot, but most of all a family man. it starts with jill, captain of the vice squad. [ laughter ] only the second lady in our history to keep her regular day
job. [ applause ] jill says, teaching isn't what she does, it's who she is. a few days after joe and i were gnawing rated in 2009, she was back in the classroom teaching. that's why when our administration worked to strengthen community colleges, we looked to jill to lead the way. she's also traveled the world to boost education and empowerment for women, and as a blue star mom, her work with michelle to honor our military families will go down in history as one of the most lasting and powerful efforts of this administration. of course, like joe, jill's work is only part of the story. she just seems to walk this earth so lightly, spread her joy
so freely. and she reminds us that although we're in a serious business, we don't have to take ourselves too seriously. she's quick with laugh or practical joke, disguising herself as a server at a party she once hosted to liven the mood. [ laughter ] she once hid in the overhead apartment of air force 2 to scare the staff. [ laughter ] because why not? she seems to have a 6th sense of when to send a note of encouragement to a friend or a staffer, a simple thank you, or a box of maca roo ns. she is one of the best most genuine people i've met not in politics but my entire life. she is grounded, caring, generous and funny and that is why joe is proud to introduce himself as jill biden's husband. to see them together is to see what real love looks like,
through thick and thin, good times and bad. it's an all-american love story. jill once surprised joe by painting hearts on his office windows for valentine's day. and then there are these biden kids and grand kids, they're everywhere. [ laughter ] they're all good looking. hunter and ashley who lived out that family creed of raising good families and looking out for the least of our brothers and sisters. bo who is watching over us with those broad shoulders and mighty heart himself. a man who left a beautiful legacy and inspired an entire nation. naomi and fen and mazy, little hunter, grandchildren who are the light of joe's eyes and gives him an excuse to bust up a squirt gun around the pool. this is the kind of family that built this country. that's why my