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on cnn to repeal and replace the law systimultaneouslysimultaneo. >> it should require a solution and help from democrats to pass it. all of this as president-elect donald trump is responding to criticism that his cabinet nominees just one week away from inauguration day. joe is live in washington. >> the house republican leadership expected to move quickly to take up the budget resolution that paves the way for the repeal of the affordable care act and they say they are cautiously optimistic that they have the votes to do it. what continues to cause heart burn among legislators is the republican support don't have a single go-to plan to replace obamacare though they say this is only the beginning of what is expected to be a long, challenging sproesz. >> the house of representatives
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is set to vote as early as today on a measure to begin dismantling the affordable care act. one day after the senate approved the same measure. it would set into motion a complicated process to repeal and replace the president's signature law. much of the criticism has been on the lack of a replacement plan by republicans. >> we're not going to see it repealed and have no replacement there at all. >> but there are real consequences. the health care coverage for 20 million americans is at stake. >> the law is collapsing so we have to rescue people. >> house speaker paul ryan pressed by one of those americans last night at a cnn town hall. >> thanks to the affordable care act i'm standing here today alive. why would you repeal the affordable care act without a replacement. >> we wouldn't do that. we want to replace it with something better. we want to do it at some time and in some cases in the same bill. we want to advance that.
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we're going to move on this as quickly as we can. >> first 100 days. >> yeah. definitely within the first 100 day. >> ryan also pressed on gop plans to defund planned parenthood. >> we don't want taxpayer funding for abortion. it's the largest abortion provider. >> tax rate dollars don't fund abortion right now. >> right. >> but they get a lot of money and money is fundable and it effectively floats these organizations. >> and breaking several times from the views of the president elect ryan delivering tough talk on russian president vladimir putin. >> russia is a global menace lead by a man that is menacing. vladimir putin does not share our interests. >> and russia's election hacking. >> donald trump won it fair and square. clearly and convincingly but the fact that a foreign government tried to mettle in another election is wrong. sanctions are called for.
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we have to step up our game with respect to confronting russia. the house speaker vowing there won't be mass deportations for millions of undocumented immigrants. >> it's not happening. secure the border and the people that are violent criminals, repeat offenders that keep coming in we have to focus on that. >> you saw speaker ryan saying the replacement measure when all said and done should be passed simultaneously with the repeal to obamacare. a draft of the replacement would be available in 30 to 60 days and talking with lawmakers the possibility does exist there could be a number of incremental replacement bills and not just one umbrella solution. >> thanks but let's discuss now this battle over obamacare.
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friday 13th. very scary. maybe appropriate for this because the notion is scare that they're collapsing is what they're being told right now to their constituents. is that true and repeal and replace at the same time in a tight time frame, can they do that? >> collapse is not the right word and with when you see premium percentages spiking you're going from a very low base in some cases so if what had been $600 a month premium has gone down to 150 and now there's a 20% increase. yeah but it's still affordable. so it's not collapsing in the way it's been said. there's problems. no question about it. the real issue here is when they talk about repeal and quick repeal they're talking about a quick defunding because that's only the thing they can do quickly is to knock the props out of a lot of subsidies and
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support. and high cost premium special pools is not true. so they are going to have to figure out how to do this. they could knock the props out or redo or undo the medicaid expansion but a lot of people off the rolls very quickly or take away the subsidies that make it happen but if they do that then there will be a collapse. we are already starting to see if that happens, who are we going to blame that on.
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>> we would go from universal coverage to universal access. meaning a more peace meal approach. premium subsidies. you would get tax credits for the lowest income earners. pre-existing conditions banned. as you know exists currently. people seem to like that a lot. they would also have that if you maintained continuous coverage and didn't have a break in your coverage. which of these would be most problematic? >> i think not to get too in the leaves i'm not going to be able to weigh which one is most problematic but i think when you put them all together that's when you have the problem. you're going to be able to rip apart obamacare and then install smaller pieces. there's going to be new problems
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that come up regardless. for a lot of americans you're talk about 20 million people that now have coverage and there's also a divide among the house republicans about exactly what they want to do. both in terms of the speed of this and in terms of what the replacement looks like. >> it's going to be one of the biggest sources of tension because that's one of the most popular aspects. we don't know what house republicans are going to do or what the president elect wants. he has been clear that he wants a quick almost simultaneous replacement and we don't know what he prefers and until we get to this point -- >> this is a tough one to play with in terms of make it sound good and we'll figure it out later. you cover congress in a very intimate way. what are you hearing about their concerns about what they can do here without making this situation go from bad for some
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to worse for all. the democrats didn't start to ruin health care. they didn't start out to get people to be angry at them for messing with 1/6th of the economy. they thought they were going to reform health care which people did want and at least among democrats there was a desire to extend health coverage to people that didn't have it so can they overhaul the u.s. economy without the disruptions that will get people angry at them the same way they were angry at democrats. he said i'm doing the democrats a favor. we're going to let them off the hook for this health care stuff. he's right. republicans are going to own this and there's a tension here. republican voters want this done and they don't want any idea
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that this is being delayed or pushed off and that would be a political nightmare for them. but what republicans and everybody else understands is putting health care reform into effect takes a lot of time and legislating so i think what we're going to see is quick repeal in terms of we have passed the law and been around the plan and now it's going to phase in and you'll hear the term orderly transition a million times because that's what republicans plan to do to try to avoid the political pitfalls that be fell the democrats. >> and yet, do they have the votes today?
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>> if they want to move ahead and there's some remembers that want to do that, mostly very safe districts they can charge ahead and go ahead and do that. the more cautious members know that there will be hell to pay if they do that. they have been. they have been trying to get some kind of consensus. they have been trying for years now to get consensus about tax credits and so forth and so on and you have more than half the country saying this is a good thing. they have to be careful politically as well. >> vice president joe biden confirming that intelligence officials did brief he and the president -- president obama last week on the claims that russia may have some compromising information about
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president elect trump this confirms cnn's reporting on this that mr. trump dismissed as fake news. >> intelligence officials briefed him and president obama last week about unverified claims that russia may have compromising information on president elect donald trump they were both submitted with a two page written synopsis of the claims. it was compiled by a former british intelligence operative based on russian sources. >> their argument was this was
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something that the press already had. not just here in the united states but other places and that there would be -- it was their obligation to inform not only us but the president elect that this was out there. >> four of the top intelligence chiefs met last friday with trump to brief him on russia meddling in the 2016 presidential election. the fbi director briefed trump on the russian claims in a one-on-one conversation of the meeting. it was the fbi's counter intelligence division that is leading the investigation into what the russian spy agencies are up to. we're told the conversation was cordial. the fbi declined to comment on this matter and trump has said that the allegations are all false, chris. >> thank you very much is it going to help them?
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this was a big question. what are they going to have to do? are they going to have to answer for what donald trump said or find their own positions? we're hearing about that. >> he is pushing back. really trying to frame this as a good thing. he took to twitter a few minutes ago and said he wants them to be themselves and express their own thoughts and not mine. on capitol hill this week many of the high profile nominees did exactly that. >> in the first week of confirmation hearings for key members of donald trump's cabinet his nominees breaking from some of his biggest campaign promises and policies. like the president elect's soft stance on russia. >> if putin likes donald trump i'd consider that an asset. >> trump's nominees for defense secretary and secretary of state
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taking a stance. >> i would consider the principle threats to start with russ russia. >> if confirms rex tillerson would be the top diplomat. >> i would have thought russia would be at the top of that considering all the actions that have taken place. that did not happen? >> that has not occurred yet senator. >> that's pretty amazing. >> after months of doubting the conclusions of u.s. intelligence trump now believes russia was the culprit. >> i think it was russia. >> mike pompeo says russia cyber hacking needs a robust response. >> would i approve water boarding? you bet i'd approve it. >> absolutely improper and illegal.
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>> absolutely not. >> i don't think we should ever come close to crossing a line that would come to terms with it as far as interrogation techniques. >> we're going to build a wall. physical barrier in and of itself will not do the job. it has to be a layered defense. >> trump's vow during the campaign to temporarily ban all muslims entering the u.s. >> i have no belief and do not support the idea that muslims as a religious group should be denied admission to the united states. >> i don't think it's ever appropriate to focus on something like religion as the only factor. >> i do not support targeting any particular group. >> next week will be another big week up here on the hill for the incoming trump administration. 7 hearings are scheduled for interior, education, commerce, epa, health and human services,
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energy and his pick for the un ambassador. >> thank you very much. let's bring back our panel. >> so there's daylight between the campaign trail and his cabinet nominees. i think it's quite clear how it will work from having been around mr. trump for many years and reporting on him, he will go with his cabinet nominees vision. they have more experience. he is persuadable by whoever he has spoken to last and so the question isn't about the conflict between what he said i think on the campaign trail and what they're saying is what if he feels differently than mat gattis or flynn feels. >> that's exactly right although in terms of the players i don't think steve is going to be the one advocating for creating more
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chaos in the world based on the way that relationships were. he does have a couple of very consistently held hobby horses as we know over the last 30 years. they are basically root issues. trade, people are ripping us off. he doesn't have a lot of deeply held and deeply explored believes. it is unusual to see this much daylight but we don't know what it means yet. it might mean a healthy disagreement and that he gets the last word or it might mean confusion and we're going to see how it plays out. it is worth noting when he came to the new york times for the interview with us shortly after the election i asked him about water boarding and does he still support it and he made clear he had already been influenced on this. he said he asked mat gattis about it in one of their interviews and mat gattis made clear that is not the way he sees effective interrogation working and trump sounded like
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he was already changing his mind. >> there you go. but he does also like to create excitement and intrigue and he would then undercut it and say don't believe them. believe me. we have to see how this plays out. >> okay. why do we have confidence that as president of the united states donald trump will allow others to make decisions for him? we've never seen that before. >> no. and i don't know why people have so much confidence for him. people that run for the presidency and win do so because they want to be the top dog and they want to make decisions and even though donald trump it's true doesn't necessarily have deeply ranged believes on a wide range of issues the way another president would have i don't see why he is going to say this is great. i'm going to a ribbon cutting. >> he doesn't know how the aca
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works. he never claimed to. they're saying they need time. they're saying the january 27th reconciliation point doesn't make sense. he says i hear you. get it done and at the same time and right away. >> it's not make decisions for him. it's that he's persuadable. >> it's one of the things that i always refer to as endearing about him. when he meets with you he's sbruz yast enthusiastic about your presiden presidency. >> you come to the president with options and unfortunately there's very few easy answers. there's always this could work. here's the upside and down sides. he's going to have to make decisions. i suppose he could say you seem to know what you're doing. cool get it done but there's a tension here. the difference in opinion helps them get confirmed so that politically is important but there's going to be a tension at
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some point they weren't going to have an impact. on the other hand if he stick with campaign trump and that's usually what happens you're going to see a lot of in fighting. >> you couldn't expect him to sit there in congress at a hearing and say i'm going to disregard your 2015 law that bans torture. that's not going to happen. same thing with senator sessions. he's part of the body that passes the law. you'll see him do what he did in the hearings. but i'd have to disagree a little bit on this. nature and politics bore a vacuum. and it's going to happen in the spaces and there's many spaces where president elect trump doesn't follow a foreign policy or philosophy that we can pull off a shelf and lead. he's leaving a lot of open spaces and it's so support nato and oppose the soviet union and
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now russia. that's what they're going to do. that's what they're trained to do. that's what is going to happen over and over again unless he creates an incredibly powerful white house apparatus to crack down on every statement and every new policy that comes out of the pentagon or state department that hasn't been approved by the oval office and i don't get the feeling that he's getting ready to put together that structure. we going to see a lot of confusion. >> thank you. >> guess what is back in the news. hillary clinton's e-mails but before you roll your eyes out there from the left, this time you may like the story. the justice department and the fbi are under investigation over their handling of clinton's e-mail case. were there investigations politically motivated? we're going to take a closer look. next. per roll bounty is more absorbent, so the roll can last 50% longer than the leading ordinary brand. so you get more "life" per roll. bounty, the quicker picker upper
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launching a new probe. this one isn't into hillary clinton. it's into the justice department and the fbi for their handling of the issue at the height of the 2016 election evan perez is live in washington with more. what do you make of the substance and the timing. >> a lot of timing. the justice department inspector general is investigate wlg the fbi director james comey and other officials followed the rules in their handling of the investigation of clinton's private e-mail server. at the top of the concerns is that extraordinary july press conference in which he said he would recommend no charges against clinton and found that
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no reasonable prosecutor would bring a case against her but then breaking with protocol comey went into great detail about all the things he thought clinton did wrong calling her extremely careless in her han e handling of information. she's also going to look into the october surprise letter to congress a few days before the election in which he announced new e-mails turned up the fbi and was reopening their investigation of clinton and a week later that the investigation was closed again. comey says he welcomes this new investigati investigation. he is able to share his conclusions and observations with the public because everyone will benefit from thoughtful evaluation and transparent cy regarding this matter but also under scrutiny is whether the fbi director should have rekuzed
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>> you have to see this next moment. president obama surprised vice president joe biden with the nation's highest civilian honor, the presidential medal of freedom. michelle has more on this emotional moment. >> with humor and a crowd gathered in the state dining room. >> this also gives the internet one last chance to talk about our bromance.
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>> this thank you and good-bye was a surprise in itself. >> it is as joe once said a big deal. to know joe biden is to know love without pretense, service without self-regard and to live life fully. >> and then the real surprise. the vice president taken completely off guard as a member of the military was called forward. >> for the final time as president i am pleased to award our nation's highest civilian honor, the presidential medal of freed freedom. >> taking it a step further awarding it with distinction only ever bestowed upon pope john paul ii, ronald reagan and collin powell. now to joe biden for a half century of public service. against crime, violence against women and cancer.
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president obama planned this himself. he came one the idea. he wanted it to be a surprise. and so he worked with a very small group of staffers to make it happen. and biden, true to character made his acceptance all about those he says he has leaned on. those he loves most. his family and the president. >> i just hope that in history that is attached to my name when they talk about this presidency is that i can say i was part of, part of the journey of a remarkable man who did remarkable things for this country. >> out of this candid emotion and all the memories one last biden joke. >> president looked at me and said you know joe, you know what surprised me? how we have become such good friends. and i said surprised you. mr. president, you know as long
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as there's breath in me i'll be there for you and my whole family will be and i know that it is reciprocal and i wanted to thank you all so very, very much. all of you. >> cnn, the white house. >> here now with the reaction to the tribute. one of the things that impresses me about biden is his consistency. you know, whether you're with him at an event or you catch him on the backside of something or he's out in his official capacity, same guy. >> that's right. i thought it was really sort of telling in age and after a very contentious campaign in which the establishment was reviled. a really sort of welcome reminder that not everybody that went to washington and did decades of public service was there for nefarious reasons or looking to get rich or looking to stab somebody in the back. >> joe biden is one of the only
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people -- i'm going too far -- but he revealed yesterday we didn't have it in the piece there but he revealed a secret that he was struggling to pay for his home and president obama helped him. >> to the point about public service in this country whether people agree or disagree with him politically he has spent his career in public service and this is a high honor in the united states and he has done itmeit about policy and not about getting rich and not about scoring political points. he was controversial but their relationship was also very striking and it will be awhile before we see a replication of that. >> for all the virtue you can put on him, this may be the great distinction in this moment in time. no friend to democrats said i hope joe biden sticks around in public service, he knows how to get a deal done. >> he does. that's such a great point.
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biden is as liberal as they come and people forget he pushed president obama on gay marriage. but when it comes to doing a deal, talking to the other side and understanding and reaching compromise, he's the one that president obama relied on to go to capitol hill and work with mitch mcconnell to try to unstick a lot of these real thorny issues that got caught up in gridlock and watching him fade from the scene is the era. this is where this was supposed to happen and one story about joe biden ten years ago i had a chance to interview him because his son that since passed away was running for office in delaware and i asked him what is that like and he said it's like going to a little league game.
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>> itthey hold a lot of power b they're people and. >> democrat or republican people are going to miss joe biden and particularly his lack of a filter. we in the media appreciated his lack of a filter. >> in trouble. >> but it also made him enduring. >> we have somebody else that doesn't have a filter. that's incoming president donald trump but with biden the appeal that you're talking about is that a he had an incredible, to david's point life story and when you look at what he has gone through he endured tragedy that almost no one should have to but he has also done it with not just humility but kindness. >> that's what helped him a lot: respect is a checks and balance system and he has a lot of checks. >> republicans fast tracking their plans to try to dismantle obamacare. speaker paul ryan promising to repeal and replace it at the
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same time. how will he do that? what will democrats do? we take a closer look ahead.
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on the charger's owner dean spanos. >> dean spanos was truly never willing to work with us on a stadium solution and demanded a lot more money than we could have ever agreed to. we live in a great city and we will move forward. san diego didn't lose the chargers, the chargers just lost san diego. >> now the chargers unveiled their new logo on twitters just moments after dean spanos press conference and it became the top trending sports topic. it's incredibly similar to the dodgers logo. so the license wanted everyone to know they were not the father. after checking their mentions tweeting for the record us and the dodgers are just friends. allison, the dodgers tweeted after saw thing you said you
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were going to call. >> that's funny. thank you very much. well, speaker paul ryan promising that the gop will repeal and replace obamacare at the same time and quickly in the first 100 days of the trump administration. how do they plan to do it? and what will it mean for you? when heartburn hits, fight back fast with tums smoothies. it starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue. and neutralizes stomach acid at the source. ♪ tum -tum -tum -tum smoothies! only from tums
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>> effective immediately people arriving from cuba will have to show documentation to enter the u.s. previous policy granted cubans asylum after they had been here for a year. the change allows cubans to be treated as the same from any other country. >> six children were killed in this massive fire that tore through their baltimore home. the victims range in 8 from 9 months old to 11 years old. their mother identified as katie malone is in critical condition. she is a long time aid to maryland congressman elijah
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cummings. three of her other children are in the hospital. no word on what sparked the fire. >> video capturing the moment an out of control car jumps a curve and barrels into a 13-year-old girl in brooklyn. i want you to know the girl is okay or i wouldn't show it to you. her father says her full backpack kept her from being seriously injured. the police say the driver suffered a heart attack or a seizure. it's one of those things the chance that you live or you don't is so small. it came together in horrible fashion but in just the right way for her to make it out. >> that's so scary. back to politics. house speaker paul ryan making a big promise about the future of obamacare at last night's cnn town hall. listen to this. >> we want to do this at the same time and in some cases the same bill so we want to advance repealing this law with it's
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replacement at the same time. >> the house could vote on a measure as early as today to begin dismantling obamacare. will democrats help republicans on that replacement? joining us now is democratic congressman tim ryan. >> good morning. >> what's going to happen with this vote today in the house? we heard that some republicans are still on the fence about whether or not to do this vote toward repeal. >> some people in the republican caucus want a straight repeal and then at some point try to replace it with something and the democrats are against any repeal at all and there's no need to repeal this and are there things we need to fix? absolutely. should we make sure that people have the same doctor and some of these provisions that we didn't quite frankly get right and you have thrown the baby out with the bath water. >> do you think it's going to pass today in the house.
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>> it's interesting that they haven't been able to pass budgets and now they're saying we're going to repeal obamacare and replace it with something different they would have the votes if they're going to bring it and speaker paul ryan said they're working to repeal and replace simultaneously. i know you don't want palm baob repealed but if that's what happens will you work with them on how to replace it. >> if people are thrown off of their health care and that happens immediately, that's going to be a real problem that is going to need to be fixed.
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but this is a problem they're creating on their own. there's no need to do this. there's no need to repeal this. it has problems. why would you throw off 20 or 30 million people. why would you exacerbate it? you don't have to do that. that's what is so mind boggling about this entire thing. there's no reason to repeal. let's just fix the problems it has right now and they're going to come and ask for democrats and they're going to want our help when in the last six years they haven't lifted a finger to try to fix this. >> are you going to help them? or is this pay back time. >> i'm not here to pay anybody back. i'm not here to put my own agenda before the agenda of the american people or people that need health care. if people in my district are
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thrown off their health care and have nowhere else to go we all have an obligation to try to fix it. try to be a part of the solution but the reality of this is and everybody should know this does not need repealed. it needs fixed. i'm going to have a conversation because i want my con stitch euns, the people that have mental health issues or addiction issues or simply want preventive health care. gou to an emergency room in ohio there's still people there that don't have a primary care physician. how do we fix that? repealing it for people that do have a primary care physician is not the proper way to go about this but i'll stand ready if my people have lost their health care but until that day happens i'm going to fight to make sure that they do not repeal this
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thing because it's had so many positive benefits. >> very quickly i want to say that the republicans believe they're going to come up with something. during this year or two years before they say those 30 million people were thrown off. they're the dreamers and brought here through no choice of their own and now they're wondering about their status. >> have been in the united states for 21 years. i am protected from deportation because of the program. if it gets repealed my daughter will lose her mother. i want you to know that it has helped me. do you think that i should be deported in many of the families in my situation -- >> no. first of all, i can see that you love your daughter and you're a
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nice person that has a great future ahead of you and i hope your future is here but if you're worried about some deportation force knocking on your door this year, don't worry about that. >> what did you think of that response of his? any possible plans for deporting undocumented people. >> that's clearly the heart and soul of the issue. are we going to throw these folks out of the united states of america as opposed to allow them to be here and get educated here and become citizens of the united states. you know, donald trump campaign on throwing that family out of the country or throwing the daughter or throwing the mother or disassembling families that's what he campaigned on and ran on and what he wanted to do and we're going to fight to make sure that that doesn't happen but that is a complete reversal and i hope that paul ryan
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reflects the sentiment of the majority of the republicans in the country, which it sounds like he may, that we should not be breaking up families in the united states. that's not what we're about. my great grandfather immigrated here from italy. this is america. let's make this work. these people are here. these children are here and we have an obligation to protect those kids and not send them back to what maybe a very hostile environment. >> congressman tim ryan, thank you very much for joining us. >> thank you. >> and thanks to all of you, our international viewers for watching us. cnn newsroom begins for you in moments and for our u.s. viewers, new day continues now. >> we're going to move on this as quickly as we can, within the first 100 days. >> thanks to the affordable care act i'm standing here today
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alive. >> it's all fake news. it's phony stuff. it didn't happen. >> i'm proud to award the presidential medal of freedom to my brother. >> we're going to build a wall. >> physical barrier in and of itself will not do the job. >> pushing ahead with plans to quickly dismantle obamacare. a vote in the house as early as today could accelerate plans to start gutting president obama's signature health care law. >> help from a handful of democrats for it to pass, president elect donald trump
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puts pressure on republicans to move quickly here as he prepares to take office one week from today so let's begin our coverage with joe johns live in washington. good morning, joe. >> good morning. the campaign promise of donald trump getting rolling in the house one week before the president elect is sworn in and he tweeted last night that, quote, the unaffordable care act will soon be history. the house republican leadership saying they're cautiously optimistic they have the votes to approve the budget resolution and gets the ball rolling on repeal when what continues to cause heart burn on legislatures is the republicans don't have a go to plan to replace obamacare. >> one day after the senate approved the same measure. it was set into motion a complicated process to repeal and


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