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breaking news. the house of representatives taking the first steps to dismantle obamacare. what comes next? what will the replacement look like? has one even been written? what was donald trump's national security advisor doing calling the russian ambassador on the very same day president obama booted russian diplomats out of the country? the trump transition team
explains. plus, mexico's president saying there's no way they're going to pay for donald trump's wall. will trump's biggest campaign promise ever be built and paid for? >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. >> good afternoon, everyone. welcome to the lead i'm jake tapper. we're going to begin with breaking news. our politics lead moments ago, republicans in the house of representatives followed their colleagues in the u.s. senate and passed that budget resolution that will begin the process of repealing obamacare. this comes after house speaker paul ryan told me at a cnn town hall last night that the gop will introduce a replacement plan simultaneously to the repealing and that they hope to accomplish all of this within the first 100 days of the trump administration. cnn's manu raju is on capitol hill. manu, what does this vote today actually accomplish? and what are the next steps? >> well, jake, what this bill does it actually instructs congress, both the house and the
senate, to develop legislation that would repeal much of obamacare. that legislation cannot be filibustered under the rules in the united states senate. there is one problem. the party has not yet settled on what to replace the law with. republicans in congress are moving quickly to repeal obamacare, hoping to gut major sections of the law in a matter of weeks. >> this law is collapsing while we speak. >> reporter: on friday, the house approved a budget that will give congress the authority to repeal much of the affordable care act on a party line vote. to fulfill one of the main campaign promises of president-elect donald trump who wants to replace the law at the same time as repealing it. >> it will be essentially simultaneously. it will be various segments, you understand, but will most likely be on the same day or the same week, but probably the same day.
could be the same hour. so, we're going to do repeal and replace. >> reporter: trump's comments undercut the plans of gop leaders who want to take their time developing a new health care law. house speaker paul ryan even said last month that a replacement would not be ready by the next football season. in a shift, ryan now promises to move quickly. >> so, we want to advance repealing this law with its replacement at the same time along the lines of what i just described, something definitely is a plan within the first 100 days to get moving on this legislation. >> reporter: but they are already running into problems. the party is divided over how to replace the law, and some influential voices are asking party leaders to hit the brakes. >> i think the repeal plan needs to be fully, fully developed and better articulated prior to moving forward. i have some reservations about moving as quickly as we are.
>> reporter: do you have concerns at all about the timetable, then? >> i think it's going to be a very -- i think this is going to be a very long process. >> you don't think it's going to happen right way? >> no. >> reporter: but some conservatives are demanding quick action on plans allowing individuals to buy insurance across state lines. and to receive tax breaks for getting coverage. >> why don't we do replace and repeal? you know, we can do those things -- we could be putting those things on the floor this week. >> reporter: democrats are warning that the gop will pay a political price for scrapping the law that's helped insure an additional 20 million people. >> what are they doing this bill, overturning the affordable care act, undermining the health security and financial stability of america's working families, and de-funding planned parenthood. that's their manhood thing. >> reporter: and, jake, republicans will have a chance to get on the same page when
they huddle behind closed doors the week after inauguration week for a retreat from the house and senate republicans. we'll see if they are able to decide on at least some principles to agree on because right now the party is not yet settled on what exactly to replace the law with. >> fascinating. manu raju on capitol hill. thank you very much. one democrat is reaching out a hand to the republicans as they try to change the health care law. west virginia senator is saying he is willing to help republican fix obamacare. he joins me now. senator, thanks as always for joining us. we appreciate t. >> good to be with you, jake. >> senator, president obama has said that democrats, you, should make republicans own this. call it trump care, don't have anything to do with it. you disagree. >> i disagree with both sides wanting to play politics. the republican side saying we have to repeal because it's a political promise they made. and if my side, the democrats
are saying from president obama down, make them own it, don't fix anything, what happens for us, our purpose of being in washington is to basically serve the american people. i just don't understand where they're coming from. we think that basically you cannot go back to what we've had before, which was nothing. you are one illness away from catastrophic death. one illness. so, that can't happen. we have a plan that's in place. whether you like it or not, can it be repaired? absolutely. and i appreciate president-elect trump saying, i'm not going to let you throw the baby out with the bath water until you let me see something different. my problem is, jake, i'm having to understand, i want to make sure i understand the process we have. but if you wrap it in one, i thought it took 60 votes from the senate, anyway, and policy. i know because of the budget process they are able on a simple majority of 51 votes in the senate. so, i don't know how you wrap them both together. does that give you a 51 vote to replace or repeal and replace?
and those are the things we have to work through. i just truly -- >> let me ask you -- >> i am totally concerned about this. yeah. go ahead. >> let me just ask you, give me an example of one specific fix that you would like to make to obamacare. >> we said the market, the product. jake, you can't have a product and ask for a 26-year-old to buy a product and then you have a fine of $750 and say, okay, what are you going to do? you're going to pay 1500, 2000, 2,500 or 750? they're paying the fine. you have to have a product and the market has to match up. we've had three or four good pieces of legislation we thought that we could repair this. and make it to where you don't have winners and losers. right now i can't look at 172,000 west virginiians getting health care for the first time. i can't look at people that are getting help for treatment for opiate addiction and getting treatment for the first time. i can't look at coal miners
getting black lung they didn't have before. also i'm having a hard time looking at people like my son and different people in the work force that are paying extremely high premiums. so, we've got to be able to bring that down to where it's more affordable. i'm willing to look at things. they've even talked about cross-state buying and purchasing of health care. medical savings accounts. all of these things could work to a certain extent, but you can't do it if no one is sitting at the table. you can't do it by trying to keep a political promise intact no matter heck or high water throw it out and say, hey, we have to fulfill this promise. let's make sure we do it right if we're going to fix it. >> you just expressed, it seemed to me, a willingness to do one thing a lot of policy makers say could help fix it which is raise the fine for people who don't buy health insurance so that you increase the pool and people's premiums are at least contained with more added to the contributor level in terms of
insurance. something that i think was a big disappointment for a lot of people in the health care advocacy world is that there really haven't been a lot of measures to try to contain health care costs, not as much as had been promised i think in a lot of ways. but those are going to be very tough decisions in a lot of ways controlling costs means reducing options for individuals that are available through insurance. are you willing to bite the bullet and suggest that democrats and republicans go in that direction? >> well, jake, there's different things they look at. we had a couple votes, this whole vote-a-rama thing. nothing comes out of that except division or somebody getting a sound bite for the next election. jake, we had an amendment, okay, that said you could buy pharmaceutical drugs from just canada, nowhere else in the world, just canada, at lower prices. anything we can do to reduce prices we should be doing and looking at it.
president trump said he's going to basically come in there and revamp the whole process and reduce the cost of pharmaceuticals. that would be great. on the other hand we've done nothing to educate people on how to use their health care delivery system. we put a lot of people in the system that's never had it, but we've never basically explained to them how to use it more effectively and efficiently. >> fascinating stuff. i do want to get your views on a couple other issues, congressman john lewis, democrat of georgia said that he did not consider president-elect trump a legitimate president. let's listen. >> i don't see the president-elect as a legitimate president. >> you do not consider him a legitimate president. why is that? >> i think the russians participate aed in helping this man get elected, and they helped destroy the candidacy of hillary
clinton. >> what do you make of that, sir? is president-elect trump a legitimate president? >> absolutely. now, let me just say it this way. john lewis is a fine, unbelievable fine man. i think the world of him and i really consider him to be a legend basically in america. and i consider john my friend. with that being said, there is no doubt the russians were involved in hacking. they were responsible for the hacking. but there is no credible evidence showing that that intervened and had one iota to do with the outcome of the election. donald trump won west virginia by over 42%. i can assure you the russians had nothing to do with him winning by 42. now, with that being said we've got to move on. we've got to come together as a
country. >> senator joe mansion, democrat of west virginia, thank you very much. hope to see you again soon, sir. >> thank you, jake. >> can he move on before being sworn in as the next president of the united states? or will donald trump still be feuding with the leaders of the intelligence community over russia and that leaked information? that's next. i just want to find a used car without getting ripped off. start at the new carfax.com show me used trucks with one owner. pretty cool. [laughs] ah... ahem... show me the carfax. start your used car search at the all-new carfax.com.
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manch welcome back to the lead. more in politics now. the house vote to move forward on repealing obamacare no doubt comes as welcome news to president-elect trump who this morning one week before his inauguration woke up to issue a string of grievances against hillary clinton, against political parts sanz, and not surprisingly, against the u.s. intelligence community. cnn political reporter sara murry joins me now. sara, the president-elect has been watching a lot of tv news this week. >> apparently, jake. a week from today he's going to be taking the oath of office. you might think he would be hunkering down working on that inauguration speech. sure he's doing that, but he's spending time picking fights on twitter. today donald trump is capping off a firy week with an early morning twitter tie raid. >> it's all fake news. it's phony stuff. it didn't happen. >> the president-elect still stewing over allegations that
russian operatives claim to have compromising information on him. cnn isn't reporting the details of those allegations because it is not independently confirmed them. but trump took to twitter to call the allegations totally made-up facts by sleez bag political operatives, both democrats and republicans, fake news. russia says nothing exists. probably released by "intelligence, even knowing there is no proof and never will be." trump's latest swipe at u.s. intelligence agencies coming after the director of national intelligence, james clapper, said he assured trump the intelligence community wasn't the source for the dossier outlining unsubstantiated allegations against the president-elect. as trump publicly feuds with the intelligence community, privately his top advisors have done their own russian outreach. trump team confirming today that michael flynn, trump's pick for national security advisor, recently exchanged calls and texts with the russian ambassador. their goal, according to the
trump transition, was simply to arrange a chat between russian president vladimir putin and trump once he's in the white house. meanwhile, the twitter a fitznad owe is aiming at hillary clinton. trump tweeting, what are hillary clinton's people complaining about on the fbi? based on the information they had she should never have been allowed to run. guilty as hell. applauded by the inspector general to launch a probe into the way the department and the fbi handled the investigation into clinton's private e-mail server. >> i think those tweets are just the latest indication that donald trump is someone who is very insecure in his victory and i understand why. every day there are new developments, new shoes dropping, so to speak, that call into question the legitimacy of his win. >> as trump airs his grievances on twitter some are being spared. his cabinet picks who are starting to express disagreement between trump's views and theirs. >> we want them to be themselves and i told them.
be yourselves and say what you want to say. don't worry about me. >> another potential area of disagreement may be emerging. house speaker paul ryan told an undocumented immigrant at cnn's town hall that he hopes her future is in america. she was brought to the u.s. by her parents as a child. >> do you that i should be deported? >> i can see you love your daughter. you are a nice person who has a great future ahead of you. and i hope your future is here. >> and he insisted the deportation force trump once promised won't become a reality. >> and i'm here to tell you -- >> now, in addition to the inauguration next week, there is also going to be a jampacked schedule of confirmation hearings for donald trump's cabinet picks and he is beginning to layout just what he wants to be at the top of his agenda when he does settle into the white house. they're already making calls on the hill to make one thing clear, ivanka trump's child care overhaul goes to the top of that list. that includes permissions for
attorney leave and tax credit. jake? >> sara murry, thank you so much. first republicans attacked him for his handling of the hillary clinton private e-mail server. then blamed him before election day. there are new directions coming for him to resign. they're coming from a surprising source. stay with us. (vo) the holidays may be over but if you hurry, you can still get the best deals on the best network. like verizon's best smartphones for only $10 per month. like the samsung galaxy s7. the pixel, phone by google. or the motoz droid. for only $10 per month. plus, hurry in and switch to verizon now and get up to $650 to cover your costs. there's still time to get amazing deals at verizon.
panel. zeke miller political reporter at time. senior writer at the federalist and cnn political [ inaudible ]. thanks for joining me. in a lot of ways this was the first week of the trump presidency even though he's not president. his cabinet nominees were on the hill. there was a big dust up with the intelligence community, first press conference before the election. how did it go? >> there is a lot of sound and fury. i think one thing i'm learning is that trump is going to have his disagreements publicly whether it's -- whether mitt romney will be the secretary of state or with the press or with the intel community. he's just going to have it out in public. so, we're going to see that happening, continue to see it happen. then you see these things where some of these nomination fights will be very bizarre where rubio gets -- is very contentious with rex tillerson for secretary of state. others you'll get an easy win like mattis where you get the waiver and he moves on. it's going to be hot and cold through here. >> what do you think, zeke? >> the most interesting thing is the divisions between -- within
the trump administration, new trump administration with some of those confirmation hearings. >> yeah, contradictions. >> contradictions with russia, town hall last night. whether there would be general kelly taulkd about earlier in the week. and how the various elements of the trump administration will work with the white house is something that is going to be a constant theme of the next four years. >> and of course this big dust up with the intelligence community. >> a yeah that was the thing that dominated the week. this is the week that started out with president-elect trump hitting back at meryl streep, right? >> that seems like ten years ago. >> doesn't it? and ended with hitting hillary clinton. so, all that happened in between was cnn had the report of the president getting briefed on this dossier, that dominated. that dominated his press conference. then we had the fbi, you know, the inspector general doing this investigation. and i think, though, of all of those things that's most
consequential for the country and this president is the -- his relationship with the intelligence officials. and it's not clear that -- it seems like after director clapper had called him on wednesday night that they patched things up a little bit but then you have president-elect trump again tweeting this morning, blaming the intelligence for these leaks of this dossier. so, how that relationship goes. but broadly i think usually in transitions you have the chaos of the campaign and it kind of -- there are walls that get put around things and it comes together a little bit. we haven't seen that in this transition at all. >> you know what's fascinating in the handling of the intel stuff, they came after us, they came after the press. they told a number of lies, just demonstrable ones, kelyanne conway saying the cnn.com leaked to buzz feed, false, never did, et cetera. i would have thought that if there was any sort of communication strategy on this, it's just go after the intelligence community. say they're politicizing, political witch hunt thing.
it didn't seem like all that well thought out as strategy in terms of -- everything we reported was true. the "wall street journal" backed us up, the new york times. >> joe biden, i had an interview with him. he told us what the intelligence officials said. >> we emphasized over and over, nothing in this is corroborated. but they briefed him on what was in it. i don't get the lying. >> i don't think there is a strategy. and when you can go after three people instead of one, you have lots of targets. but i think he does have a bit of a bone to pick with the leaks. that party thought him and clapper having that discussion was actually very productive, then classic trump, he sort of overblows the conversation they have and tweets it incorrectly. changes the story. but -- >> we have to say, zeke, one of the reasons clapper issued the statement and biden was as forthcoming as he was, i can't get into the motivations in their minds, but they seem to be out there saying -- correcting
the record because the trump team was saying things that weren't true and biden and dni clapper was saying this is what happened, this is what i said, we did get the synopsis, et cetera. >> yeah, but they're having those conversations on donald trump's terms. that is in a way the media mastery he's been able to demonstrate throughout his candidacy. we'll see throughout the presidency, he will pick these fights and by and large if you're engaging him, he's winning because he's -- miss directing you from something he doesn't want to talk about moving thing to his own turf. this fight with the intelligence community gives him cover to slow walk everything. takes the pressure off him. if something happens in the world he'll now go and say i need to get independently verify this, work around the intelligence community t. takes the pressure off in every future crisis -- that's how i think he thinks about t. >> carol let me change topics because it's afternoon. congressman john lewis, democrat of georgia revered member of the civil rights communities, told nbc news because of the russian hacks he does not see donald
trump as a legitimate president. i don't know that democrats, we already had joe manchin disagreeing with him. i don't know that democrats think that is the right message. what's your take? >> i think when that is going to move anything else, really provoke trump. part of the reason why he has picked this fight with the intelligence community is because he feels under siege, that all of this is designed to undermine what he feels was a very legitimate movement that he had that led him to win the white house. and, so, but you can also see democrat really wanting to kind of needle him because that's what they do. but lewis' comment, he seemed to be a little -- he was very heart felt about that, but obviously other democrats aren't doing that. >> do you think calling into question his legitimacy ultimately helps donald trump? >> i'm not sure who it helps. i know what it does not help do which is bring those democrats who voted for trump back into
your fold, to say that this was not a legitimate election. the russian hacking story is a real story. democrats acting as if, and by the way sending the message the vote totals were hacked you see in polling democrats believing is not helpful. >> fudging the language, calling it an election hack. it's not true. >> i don't think it helps you earn back any of those voters if you're acting like they're not real people who didn't have an impact. >> zeke, take a listen to president obama doing this exit interview with 60 minutes. he weighed in on his successor. >> look, he is an unconventional candidate. i don't think there is anybody who has run a campaign like his successfully in modern history, not that i can think of. and as a consequence, because he didn't have the supports of many of the establishment in his own party, because he ran sort of an improvizational campaign -- >> can you run an
improvizational presidency? >> i don't think so. and, so, now he's in the process of building up an organization, and we'll have to see how that works and it will be a test. >> your take zm >> the president is exactly right here. we don't know how donald trump will govern, how the team that he has assembled will work. they're at the white house now having table top simulation of how to manage and respond to crises around the world. that will be the early est test. on january 20th there won't be a simulation any more and we don't know the answer yet. >> all right. carol, zeke, mary catherine, thank you so much. love to have you here all three of you. be thur to tune in to state of the union sunday 9:00 p.m. we'll have raise your hand paul and an exclusive exit he interview with the outgoing white house chief of staff dennis mcdonagh. coming up republican congress threatening to investigate the guy who investigates ethics after he expressed doubts about how donald trump is handling things. we'll explain it. stay with us. if you have medicare
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welcome back to the lead. continuing with politics in our regular segment, conflict of interest watch, the chief office of government ethics has made it clear he is not satisfied with president-elect trump's parole sal to try to separate himself in some way from his global business empire. but walter's public comments may soon lead to him testifying before congress. the republican chairman of the house oversight committee jace son chafe its threaten today investigate the office. he summoned him to answer questions from committee members. let's bring in cnn christina who covers conflict of interest watch for us. the ethics office designed to prevent and resolved conflicts
of interest. it says so under the mission page opt website. chafe its says the office has gone too far. how? >> jake, let's put it out there. it's political battle like this that can digs tract from the real issue, which is donald trump's potential conflicts of interest. here's what's going on here. walter shaub who heads the ethics office is a civil servant. he's not a career politician and they typically don't make statements to the press. but he broke with that tradition. he called trump's plan to break away from his business quote-unquote wholly inadequate. why would a career civil servant take this dramatic step? well, because trump sntd divesting. he's not selling. yes, the trump organization won't do any new foreign deals, the new u.s. deals will face review from ethics lawyers. but when he takes office, trump will know exactly what assets he owns, who his business partners are, and that leaves him open to criticism or even allegations that he's making policy decisions to line his own
pockets, to enrich himself. so, that is the chief problem here. and the ethics chief's decision to come out so harshly and slam trump's plan to did not sit with with jason chafe its who wrote a letter demanding he appear before the oversight committee. this is the letter itself, to quote-unquote, to help the committee understand how you perceive oge's rule among other things, please make yourself available to a transcribed interview with the committee staff as soon as possible. but no later than january 31st, like stop, doesn't have anything else to do before january 31st. he's pretty busy. >> let's put it out there, though. what are democrats on the oversight committee saying? are they with chafe its or are they with shaub? >> democrats are playing into this fight. we spoke with connolly of virginia, and he blasted chafe its. >> i think it's really taking a double standard to a new level.
this is the same chairman who promised oversight no matter who occupied the white house, and here he is backtracking profoundly. and actually now trying to make an example out of the head of the office of government ethics for doing his job. >> here's the danger, jake. the politics, that is what makes americans disengage from these important issues. there is, however, an important point of contention that we have to pay attention to between democrats and republicans. the democrats want the hearing to happen in an open setting with cameras, and the republicans want something more private, a transcribed interview which is being billed as a meeting behind closed doors. jake? >> all right, christina, thank you so much. let's bring in richard painter, the former white house lawyer under george w. bush now a law professor at the university of minnesota. sir, thank you so much for joining us. congressman chafe its appeared on this show yesterday saying it's too early in his year to
criticize president trump's business separation plan. take a listen. >> i thought it was very premature the office of government of ethics to essentially be in the spin room saying i hate this when he hasn't even actually looked at it or reviewed it. this is an obama donor who was very supportive of hillary clinton in some of the actions that he took and i think that the ethics office is supposed to be impartial and seems to have a partial bent to it right now. >> so, let's divide that in half. one, is it premature given that he hasn't actually looked at it? and two, isn't the fact that shaub did give too $250 to president obama's election campaign, does that not taint his decisions? >> no, it's not premature. the president is going to take office next friday and we have an enormous financial enterprise, real estate enterprise all over the world that he owns. we definitely have money coming
in from foreign governments. this is a serious problem and walter shaub has announced a position that is the same as mine and many other experts in the field, that the president need to divest. and the fact that walter shaub gave $250 to democrats, that's irrelevant. every civil servant has the first amendment right to donate to political campaigns just as apparently the koke brothers have a right to assemble enormous super pacs and that is what is going on in our system. and those small donors have every right to participate. speaking of super pack, we had a super pack just a few days ago attack the office of government ethics. i have never seen a director of the office of government ethics attacked by a super pack. that must mean he is definitely doing his job. i have been active in republican party politics for almost 30 years and supported republicans. this is embarrassing. just over a week ago, we had an attempt to undermine the office
of congressional ethics which watches over the house of representatives. that got snuffed out. now we've got super packs attacking the office of government egg iks. we have a threat to de fund the office of government ethics. that letter sent by the chairman oversight house committee threatened to pull the money if they don't toe the line with not only respect to the president, but also the president's nominees. that's another issue here. they want to jamb through nominees without going through their financial holdings and coming up with an ethics agreement. they do not want to do it the way we did in the bush administration when i was in the bush white house. and i worked with them when i was with the bush white house. he was a very good man. >> so, let me ask you just in terms of focusing on this one issue. congressman chafe its, his opposition, his objection as written in his letter, is that, quote, your agency's mission is to provide clear ethics guidance not engage in public relations. in an interview with cnn.com,
former chief officer agreed saying, quote, i've never seen oge office of government ethics, ask this politically. is that a fair criticism to be so out there that he risks appearing as though he is -- he has a political agenda, not just an agenda in terms of enforcing ethics rules? >> there's nothing political about this. the head of the office of government ethics is stating clearly what the position of the agency is. that is what heads of agencies do. and they have a responsibility to state publicly what the position of the agency is. and if they believe that the president of the united states will have an unworkable conflict in about a week's time, one week's time exactly, they need to say that publicly. that is their job. and we should not have a system where the only person who has a twitter account is the president using at 3:00 in the morning. if we're going to talk about these issues on twitter, that's
not my preferred mode of communication. but if that's the way it's done these days, okay. the head of the office of government ethics has an obligation to say what is ethical and what is not. and that is what he's done. and he should not be subjected to this type of investigation by congress. this is the very same committee that took that fbi letter from director comey and put it up on the internet a week before the election. this committee is all about partisan investigations. and it has been for years, and it is an embarrassment to our country that congressional investigations are undertaken in this way. this is irresponsible leadership from the house of representatives. >> richard painter, thank you so much as always, we appreciate your time. coming up, you want me on that wall. you need me on that wall. but who will pay for that wall? donald trump still says mexico will, but the mexican president is saying, no, no. then u.s. troops moving into new positions in poland.
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turning to our world lead now from russia with loathing, thousands of u.s. troops are neighboring poland in a direct response to russian actions against nato as well as their incursions into other neighboring countries. russia is calling this a threat to its own security. nearly 4,000 u.s. troops have arrived in poland this week along with u.s. tanks, armored vehicles, artillery all in support of nato's operation atlantic resolve. this is the biggest u.s. military deployment in eastern europe since the end of the cold war. cnn's senior international correspondent atika shoe bert is there on the ground. different reactions are coming from two neighboring eastern european nations. tell us what you're seeing in poland. >> well, it's quite impressive buildup here that crossed over from germany yesterday. the polish prime minister will be welcoming the troops in a ceremony tomorrow. and what we're seeing here is about 4,000 soldiers in all as you point out, those tanks, this is part of the third armored
brigade from the fourth infantry division usually based out of fort carson, colorado. there are rotational forces. they will be rotated every nine months. this is all part of a nato agreement that was made last year and it is exactly what countries like poland and other eastern european allies in nato have been asking for. they watched in horror as russia conducted its not so covert aggression in ukraine, the annex asian of crimea and so this is a welcome move for poland certainly. jake? >> and president-elect trump has said nice things about russia, but his cabinet nominees haven't necessarily. any reaction from russia about their comments during their hearings against russia? >> yeah, i mean, the kremlin spokesperson peskov was the first person to react to this saying basically that this was a threat to russia, to see this sort of military increase. near to russia's borders. just to be clear, where i'm
standing now is more than a thousand kilometers away from the nearest russian border. lithuania and ukraine all stand between poland and russia. but it's very clear that as far as russia is concerned, they do not like this military buildup one bit, but they may wait to react until president-elect donald trump is officially gnawing rated next week. >> all right, atika, thank you so much. also today mexico announced it is sending a new ambassador to the united states as both countries dispute who is going to pay for that border wall. this week we heard president-elect trump reiterate that the u.s. will not ultimately foot the bill. >> mexico in some form, and there are many different forms, will reimburse us and they will reimburse us for the cost of the wall. that will happen. >> the mexican president fired back insisting that his country will not pay for the wall. and soon the new mexican diplomat will be in washington to personally push back against trump's plan. let's go to cnn's leila santiago
now with the response the ambassador is intending to bring with him from mexico city. >> jake, we have seen uncertainty, prompt fear and insecurity among the people here in mexico city. you know, since trump's election, the mexican peso has plunged against the u.s. dollar. add to that the mexican government's decision to raise gas prices has sent thousands of protesters into the street. and others to church. in mexico's holy est shrine where thousands go to pray, the hope is that a higher power is listening. concerns, worries, fears can be left behind. ramon hernandez worries about the future, his family, the economy. when ford backed out of plans to build the new factory, his hometown lost potential jobs. and the same administration that
calls this a victory says mexico will eventually pay for a new wall on the u.s.-mexico border. >> translator: he tells me the idea sounds crazy and he's not alone. pedro says president-elect trump is better off paying for a wall to be built around his own home, making mexicans pay for the wall along the border, he says, it's just a threat. consul general carlos garcia acknowledges his job as one of mexico's top diplomats at the u.s. has changed. will mexico pay for that wall? >> no way. the president of mexico, and the entire government of mexico, again and again have repeated mexico won't pay the wall. >> garcia calls the relationship between the two countries one of
the most complex in the world. >> i respect the government of mexico. i respect the people of mexico. i love the people of mexico. >> does that improve anything? >> it doesn't fix, but it helps. we need to change language. it's time now to start speaking with respect. >> and pedro adds, the respect must go both ways. but even he and a lot of his fellow mexicans recognize this may take an intervention. perhaps from the divine. you know, we talked to about 20 mexicans from across this very vibrant city, all echoing very similar sentiments. the words that were repeated, humiliation, racism and let's wait and see, there seems to be a sense of calm, but i couldn't find one person who actually believed mexico will eventually pay for the wall.
jake? >> leila santiago in mexico city for us, thank you so much. he says he opposes president-elect trump's pick for attorney general, but what about president-elect trump's choice to run the pentagon? what about him? senator richard blumenthal visits cnn next. stay with us. wis that they contourt tempur-peto your body.s... it keeps us comfortable and asleep at night. start the new year off right with the best sleep of your life. buy your tempur-pedic now for as low as $25 a month and a 90-night free trial. call or click today.
happening now, russia calling. there is new information that retired general michael flynn, donald trump national security advisor was in contact with the russians at the very same time the obama administration was preparing to retal i didn't tell for russian cyber attacks. still on the attack, trump unleashes a barrage of tweets. sleez bag russia has compromising information on him. and trump calls hillary clinton quote,