tv State of the Union With Jake Tapper CNN January 15, 2017 6:00am-7:01am PST
president. >> will other democrats revolt en masse? president obama's chief of staff will be here live. plus, hear it here first. president-elect says he wants obamacare repealed immediately. >> we're going to move on this quickly as we can. definitely a plan within the first 100 days. >> what will the replacement look like? senator and dr. rand paul will debut his bill right here exclusively in minutes. and deep dive. >> if putin likes donald trump that's an asset. >> the senate will investigate trump's ties to russia a day after a top rope can says it's no business of theirs. what will they discover and the best political minds will be here on insights of what happens next. hello. i'm jake tapper in washington where the "state of our union"
is in rehearsals for the inauguration of donald j. trump. you're overlooking the capitol where preparations are under way for friday's ceremony and swearing in. not everybody is celebrating. a contingent of democrats led by john lewis, congressman and proud partisan democrat, plan to boycott and members of his party are divided on the issue with trump's rival hillary clinton and former president bill clinton saying they will attend and, of course, president obama and first lady obama will be there to hand the baton to the trumps. i'm joined this morning by president obama's chief of staff dennis mcdonagh. thanks so much for being here. quite a thing to have you here on the last sunday of the obama president. >> i appreciate very much the chance to be with you, jake. >> there are now at least 18 house democrats who are boycotting the trump inauguration. does president obama think that's okay or should they follow his lead honoring the office and the peaceful transfer of power? >> the president has made very clear since the election that we
should do everything in our power in this transition period to make sure that the next president and his team are up and ready to go. in fact, on tuesday night in his speech he called him the freely elected president of the united states, so that's the charge that we've taken. by the same token, these democrats and others have pointed out that they have significant concerns, and we've found some of those concerns and the intelligence shows that the russians did intervene and they did intervene with the purpose of helping one candidate and hurting the other so these are by no means trivial concerns so my hope would be that the president-elect will reach out to somebody as consequential and as somebody who is such a leader as john lewis who has done so many things over the course of his life to try to work this out. hopefully not just reach out to him but pursue some of the policies that mr. lewis has literally fought, bled and gone to jail for over the course of his remarkable life and that would be the kind of thing that would not only send a message to the american people that we're
prepared to work together and would also send a message to the russians, that we are united and there are efforts to divide us and to weaken us and to advance their own interests at the expense of ours and are going to fail. >> just to be clear though, president obama thinks that president-elect trump is legitimate? >> the president has made very clear that he believes that he is the freely elected president. he will be inaugurated on friday and he will come into office hopefully strengthened by the kind of transition that we've try to run in this white house. >> as somebody who saw his own legitimacy questioned repeatedly as president, president obama, including by the incoming president-elect donald trump with that birther nonsense, does he think that democrats should put this away, this whole idea of legitimate/illegitimate? >> the president is not going to get in the middle of this right now. i think what ultimately the president -- the president-elect trump's success will be determined by his ability to implement the kind of policies and have the kinds of success
that we've had over the course of this administration. take one of the issues that i think he mentions over the course of the last several days which is crime. crime is down. crime is way down. in fact, crime is down at the same time that the prison populations in this country are down. that's the first time that's ever happened, so we feel very good about the progress that we've made over the course of eight years and we hope that the next president will continue a lot of policies that have resulted in that progress. >> michael mcfall, who was president obama's ambassador to russia put out a tweet saying, quote, it's unusual for transition teams to have contact with foreign governments. the number of calls to russia's ambassador to the u.s. during the obama transition was zero, a specific reference to president-elect trump's incoming national security adviser mike flynn reaching out to the russian ambassador several times on and around the day that the obama white house announced new sanctions and punishments against russia. do you have any concerns about
those calls and attempts to reach out by mike flynn? >> josh wad asked about that on friday and i think he answered it just right which is to say fact is, the content of the calls is what matters. we have pursued a policy throughout the course of this transition wits one that we pursued when we were coming in in 2008, which is there's one president at a time. that's important so that our -- the american people know exactly what to expect, and it's also important that our adversaries are not confused, by what we intended to do and by what the united states position is and about the significance of our feeling or our intentions on some particular issue. >> do you have any issue of what the content of the call was? >> do you think don't worry about the sanctions and we'll undo them? i don't want to get into any particular concerns and content matters and we'll see what that -- how that shakes out. >> about nine days ago you were in the room when president obama obama and vice president biden were briefed by the top intelligence officials in the
country about not just the intelligence community report on the russian hacking but also that addendum, the an exand two-page synopsis by former british mi-6 memos, i know you're not going to get into the content, but vice president biden confirmed that synopsis was there and the director of national intelligence james clapper tried to explain it in a statement saying part of our obligation is to ensure that the fullest possible picture of any matters that might affect national security. do those matters affect national security, or do you agree with president-elect trump that this is a political witch-hunt by the intelligence community? >> the president thought it was very important to ask for this assessment what have precisely happened in our election in 2016 but not just in 2016. also in 2012 and in 2008. two elections that he stood in, and in fact and as you know jake and everybody knows we were also
hacked at that time. >> but nothing was released. nothing was released. it's important for the president -- it was important for the president that we get a full and complete assessment from the intelligence community so that we could brief the policy-makers that would stay here and the incoming policy-makers so that they can come up with policy and implement that policy to ensure that doesn't happen again. we get to from the ic. >> including the synopsis do you think that was the intelligence community trying to mess with donald trump and trying to get uncould be rated rumors out there in a sneaky way? >> look, the intelligence community is staffed by an unbelievable cadre of professionals who have dedicated their lives and in many cases put their lives at risk to get really critical, timely and important information of policy makers, and i have no reason to believe that. they pursued this tasking this assignment with anything but the most straightforward
professional goals in mind. >> are you at all concerned that the russians have something on donald trump? >> look, i -- >> job description of chief of staff is to be concerned and not to worry about things. the things that we're worried about right now is to make sure that the incoming team has all the information, all the readiness, all the preparation that they need that they can hit the ground running at 12:01 on friday after the president is inaugurated here and they take over. >> i recognize that your hands are tied but you didn't deny that you were concerned. >> i'm paid to be concerned about everything, jake, and that's my job description. that's what i do, and that's what i'll continue to do on 12:01 on friday. >> part of the obama act is the affordable care act. republicans have started the process of repealing it. president obama said don't rescue republicans on obamacare. make them own t.start calling it trump care. given how many americans depend upon the affordable care act and when will come next, shouldn't
democrats try to make it as good as possible? >> well, i'm not sure what that quote is. i think that's referring to a leak or a secondhand characterization of what the president said. here's what i believe the president believes and said to me which is that the affordable care act is important to the american people. this isn't a political question. this is 24 million people who now have access to health care because of that act. we also have seen historically low cost increases in health care costs over the course of the last four years, year on year on year. that's something that we've not seen happen since we started keeping score on these matters. >> premiums have gone up? >> premiums go up. >> premiums go up and down, jake, as a matter of course in health care. that's what we call the market, and, in fact, what we've seen over the course of time is -- over the course is historically low increases. out of pocket costs like deductibles or co-pays.
that's a fact and undeniable and that's what the president is focused on. the politics will work themselves out. okay. what won't work themselves out is 24 million people or the 320 people who would get coverage in north carolina under the expanded medicaid plan of governor cooper which has put on hold last night by a federal judge and what won't happen is those 320,000 people won't get health care and won't get a piece of mind that you and i have that all 435 of these people have and that everybody in the administration has when they get health care coverage at the cost of the american taxpayer and that's what the american people deserve and it would be a shame, an absolute shame if this congress and this next incoming administration doesn't recognize that fact. >> you mentioned the intelligence professionals who will still be here after president obama and his administration leave. there's going to be a lot of bureaucrats and people who work in policy who are remaining here. the trump transition team has sent out questionnaires to a lot of them. how many of you and who has
worked on climate change and who has worked on gender issues. these are still your employees. >> these are the american people employees. the american people pay them and expect professionalism and expect results from them and that's what they get. we were very concerned about these reports, jake. we've raised them a -- a number of us have raised them with the transition people and with the president-elect's team. we've sat and we've received assurances that that was not sanctioned activity and not in fact that they think it's a bad idea so we're retleefd hear that. we think that the american people will be relieved to hear that, and we think that the federal work force should be relieved to hear that. and we'll make sure we conduct our business that way until 12:01. >> there owes still an fbi exinvestigation going on and senator sessions said he would recuse himself. any discussion right now by president obama about any sort
of preemptive pardon for bill or hillary clinton? >> i don't know anything about any investigations and i don't have anything on pardons, preemptive or otherwise. >> how about for edward snowden or chelsea manning? >> the president is going to exercise any pardons it will be conducted straightforwardly pursuant to our policies and we'll make those decisions based on the merits, not on the politics of any particular matter. >> you've been with president obama since he was senator obama giving him advice and then joining his campaign so -- so what is your favorite one-on-one memory you ever had with them? >> the beauty about my one-on-one memory, jake, is that they will stay that. i've valued my candid relationship with the president that he gives us good advice including hon how to be a good dad. that's stuff that i'll take with me and maybe share with my wife and nobody else. i will say that the thing i'm most proud of, jake, an
administration acknowledging that we have six days left or five days left. that has been historically free of scandal. and i think that's important not just because it underscores the president and his -- and the first lady and dr. biden, vice president biden, on how the government run and how we should conduct ourselves and it's because we set a white house that said the institutions have to work. congress is going to investigate us. they did. we've participated in and cooperated with those investigations. the department of justice -- >> some would take issue with that, just fyi. >> my point is, jake, they ought not to let down their guard on the importance of the article one institution congress overseeing the article two-2-overseeing the presidency. we let the department of justice and courts and fbi do their business and the independence and transparency of that process is very important to the function of this democracy.
the president has been clear about that with us from day one, and that's why god willing we'll leave here on 12:01 with the president's record intact. that's an important thing. that underscores the confidence of the american people in the institutions at a time when that sometimes seems in question. >> most white house chief of staffs last what, two years, year and a half? >> it's been great. andy card lasted five and a half years. >> you were four? >> not yet. >> if i make it to friday. i serve at the pleasure, jake. >> you think you're going to get fired before then? >> i just might. >> you never know. it's up to the discretion of the president. thank you so much for being here. >> thanks, jake. appreciate it. >> coming up, first republican proposal to replace obamacare. what's in? what's out. senator rand paul will be here with the details next. ♪ ♪ after becoming one of the largest broadband companies in the country. after expanding our fiber network coast to coast. these are the places we call home.
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welcome back to "state of the union." just five days away from the president's first day in office and replacing and repealing obamacare is his top priority and for the first time we are getting an idea what might be in a replacement bill. senator rand paul, republican of kentucky, has written the first draft of a piece of legislation and is here to share it with us. senator, thanks so much for sharing it with us. appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. good morning. >> i want to get to your bill in a second. a big story going on this weekend, martin luther king weekend. congressman john lewis obviously suggesting that president-elect trump in his view is not legitimate because of the russian hacking. mr. trump took to twitter on saturday and attacked him. he wrote, quote, john lewis
should spend more time on fixing and helping his district which is in horrible shape and falling apart, not to mention crime-infested rather than falsely complaining about the election results. all talk, talk, talk. no action or results. sad and then later in the day president-elect trump tweeted he should focus on the burning and crime-infested cities in the u.s. i can use all the help i can get. >> senator paul, you make and have made a concerted effort to reach out to communities of color as senator and as a presidential candidate, i went with you when you went to howard university. what's your response to what president-elect trump tweeted at john lewis. >> you know, i've worked with john lewis hand met him several times and have worked with many members of the black caucus and many progressive democrats frankly on the idea of criminal justice reform so i think i have a good relationship with him but i would also be one, and i do appreciate him being a civil rights icon, but i would also say that that doesn't make us immune from criticism or debate,
so john lewis isn't in a position where there can't be a healthy debate back and force because he's a civil rights icon shouldn't make him i murngs but i would say instead of this bickering back and forth, what i would like to find out is how we can still do criminal justice reform and i've been talking to democrats about how we get more republicans on board. i was disappointed we didn't get it through, you know, when president obama was in, but i think there is still some chance to reform our criminal justice system and i want to work with john lewis and others on that. >> and a last question on this and i went to get to obamacare and one of the issues people are taking issue, not whether john lewis is immune from criticism, he's a partisan democrat and saying the president-elect is illetting, certainly room for criticism. saying his district is crime-infested and referring to man who you referred to as an
icon as all talk and no action i think on martin luther king weekend that struck a lot of people as a little tone deaf, including many republicans. >> but i think it gets one-sided sometimes. in jeff sessions, you know, nomination hearings, there were three african-american legislators, cory booker, john lewis and i think cedric richmond came forward and decided to testify against jeff sessions is, but there were also three african-americans who had worked with him and known him for years and years who testified in his favor so i think we shouldn't -- when things involve race it gets very, very sensitive. all of us or none of us want to be considered the racially insensitive so it's a very, very important subject, but i think we shouldn't -- we shouldn't ignore that people are partisan. john lewis is a partisan. i have a great deal of respect for him but he's a partisan and i disagree with him on issues. i should be able to honestly disagree with him and not have it come to be i have no appreciation for civil rights icon because of this, and i think that's the part that i think is sometimes unfair in
this. >> let's turn to health care. i want you to hear from a kentucky resident who voted for donald trump and is now concerned about possibly losing obamacare. take a listen. >> you supported donald trump in this election. >> i did, i did. >> but if obamacare goes away? >> if obamacare goes away. >> going to be in a real depression. >> you want the jobs? >> yes. >> you want the health care that obama has provide? >> i do, and i know it sounds weird. >> i know i'm not telling you anything that you don't know, more than 400,000 great people in your commonwealth of kentucky have been able to get health insurance because of obamacare, whether through the medicaid expansion or subsidized private insurance, the plan that your former governor set up. tell us about the replacement bill that you plan to introduce. can you guarantee all 400,000 of those people in kentucky are going to be able to keep their coverage? >> you know, i think the interesting thing about the woman's comment is that she wants care.
she also wants a job, and so we need policies that create more jobs because the more jobs created the less need for the government to jump in. i believe that it's incredibly important that we do replacement on the same day as we do repeal. we've had six years to complain and we have complained. i've been one of those complaining about obamacare. replacement should be the same day. the replacement bill that we put together, our goal is to ensure the most amount of people get the most amount of people at the least cost. that's where obamacare failed. they wanted to insure people. their motives were good and the heart was in the right place but they put so many mandates in that they made it too expensive so what's happening in the individual market, which is about 6%, 7% of the market, you have companies like blue cross of north carolina lose $400 million because young healthy people don't want to buy it because they are told, hey, you can get it any time after you get sick, and so -- so they have broken the insurance model. the other problem with obamacare
is they put these mandates and said that every insurance policy has to have ten items. things like pregnancy and dental coverage and all these things are great and they add cost and that forced people out of the market, so one. key reforms that we'll do is we'll legalize the sale of inexpensive insurance, getting rid of the obamacare mandates on what you can buy. we'll help people save through health savings accounts as well as a tax credit and then one of the things we need to talk more about, and this is the third part of the replacement bill, we're going to allow individuals to come together in associations to buy insurance. i understand as a small business people, had a doctor's office, if one of my employees got cancer, it was devastating to the bottom line, not only to them obviously but to the bottom line of insurance, but there's no reason why some with four employees shouldn't be able to join with hundreds and hundreds of other businesses that are small to become a large entity to get leverage to bring your prices down, but also to get insurance that can't cancel you
and guarantees the issue of the insurance even if you get sick. >> senator, what will happen to the people in kentucky who now have health insurance because of the medicaid expansion? will the medicaid expansion remain, or will it be taken away as your new bill theoretically goes forward? >> i think that's the big question, and i don't think that's going to be in the replacement aspect. that's going to be in the repeal aspect. there's going to be a vote on -- it's a fancy term, budget reconciliation that has to do with once a budget is passed you can by simple majority alter things that have to do with the budget. that's how obamacare is going to be repealed. the vast majority of people that got insurance under president obama's obamacare, the affordable care act, got it through medicaid, so what we have to decide is what can be kept and not kept and that's part of repeal, but i will make this point, and this is an incredibly important point. everybody says what are we going to do, going to give these people care.
the other question is where are we going to get the money is what i ask? we borrow $1 million a minute. we owe $20 trillion, this enormous debt. my point is we should be honest about it. if kentucky or tennessee or ohio wants to expand medicaid and they want -- they say you have a lot of people struggling. we're going to help them, that's fine. probably we should then raise the taxes on everybody in kentucky to pay for medicaid. instead, we had this deceitfulness that president obama said it would be free, taken care of 100% by the federal government but we have no money in washington. you know, we have a $0 trillion debt so it's not honest account sewing if you want more medicaid you should say we'll have to have higher taxes to pay for it. >> senator mall, i have to ask you, you've now heard testimony from rex tillerson, donald trump's nominee to be secretary of state. you were on the senate foreign relations committee. at this point are you prepared to say that you would vote for him to be secretary of state? >> yes. i will vote for rex tillerson. i was very impressed, and one of
the things i was very impressed with is one of the introductions by sam nunn, a former democrat, somebody who did a lot of history in arms control and realizes important how dialogue is. we have so dumped down and simplified this whole idea of whether tillerson would be a friend of russia and all that. we want dialogue and engagement and the one thing that sam nunn mentioned you know what, in the deepest darkest throes of the cold war when we were at great odds with the soviet union and when we knew there were terrible human rights abuses and they were, you know, doing proxy wars around the globe. we still talked to the russians. this is really important because we've on both sides, republicans and democrats saying what are you going to do? what are you going to do? going to call him a war criminal? well, maybe, we're just going to have discussions and engagement. doesn't mean we'll access or say the russians aren't right or that we won't stand up to them. all of that has to happen but we have to realize we have enough nuclear weapons on both sides to
blow up the world, that it's incredibly important that we always maintain a dialogue with the russians. >> senator rand paul of kentucky. always good to see you, sir. thanks for coming in. appreciate it. hope to see you soon. >> thanks, jake. coming up, boycott? you're looking right now hat pictures of the inaugural rehearsal under way right this second, but at least 18 members of the house democrats say they are not going to attend. will those numbers grow? stay with us. maas /
i don't see the president-elect as a legitimate president. i think that the russians participated in helping this man get elected, and they helped destroy the candidacy of hillary clinton. >> congressman john lewis, democrat of georgia questioning the legitimacy of donald trump's presidency. trump responded yesterday morning tweeting, quote, congressman john louse should spend more time on fixing his health and helping his district and not to mention crime-infested rather than falsely complaining about the election results. no action or results and then as we all know sad. will more democrats follow the lead of lewis and boycott the inauguration or will they follow the lead of president obama. hear with us. we'll talk about all of this and more former republican candidate and senator from the great senate of pennsylvania rick
santorum and attorney general designee spokesman and national president of the urban league and mayor of new orleans. thanks for all being here. lots to talk about. mr. mayor, let me start with you. what do you make between the fight between president-elect trump and john lewis? >> john lewis is a great american, an american icon. nothing donald trump says will did i min, his standing and from his legacy but let's not let all the smoke of the conversation get away from the fire of whether russia was involved in our elections process. that is something that has to play out. got to be fully and fairly investigated so in all of the discussion we shouldn't lieutenants essence of the issue. john lewis raised that once again. members of both the republican and democratic intelligence committee in the senate. there needs to be a complete investigation. i would like to see a bipartisan commission and something that can be done in public because it's damaging to democracy if a
foreign power was involved in our elections process. >> and we'll talk more about russia in the next block and senator santorum, let me ask you. i understand you would take issue with the question of whether or not president-elect trump is issue. >> i think we should all take issue. i don't it should be me that takes issue with this. the idea that we're asking the legitimacy of donald trump's election at this point in time is absurd. >> and i think dennis mcdonagh said the same thing, president obama considers him a freely and fairly elected president. as a political matter, if donald trump said to you how do you think i should handle this, what would you have said? >> donald trump is president so i'm not so i'm not giving donald trump on how to handle this. what donald trump has done throughout the course of this campaign has break every single rule and it's working out pretty well for him. to attack john lewis, i think the last thing he said in his tweet was right. it's sad. john lewis was a great civil rights leader 50 years ago when he made his mark and continued
to make a mark. look, john lewis said some things he should not have said and is doing something he shouldn't do, and -- and that's -- that to me is sad because i think it does create a little stain on what is otherwise a terrific record. >> i guess one of the things is without taking issue with what senator santorum said and i'm sure you would agree president-elect trump is a legitimate president, i don't know that it doesn't hurt him, president-elect trump, because you have a president-elect who is coming in as the least popular president-elect in history, or at least in modern history. his approval ratings are under 50%. he's according to polls, his approval rating among independents is going the wrong way. a time when george w. bush was at 67% and president-elect obama was at something like 80% approval. this is a time for uniting to get the country behind you so you can do what you need the guys in the building behind me to do. >> right, i do think that we're seeing just a different political atmosphere that we've
seen before. for all the democrats that decried the delegitimatization of president obama as they should have -- >> led by donald trump, by the way. >> they are very silent this time around and john lewis should know better. that's what's so frustrating. this is about the office. it is not about the markings and i do think that donald trump will actually go in with a different honeymoon period, but it will be a honeymoon period. i think that congress is ready to get to work on a bunch of items. the last president was having several executive actions that were uncons to usual. the supreme court struck down one after the other because he couldn't find a way to work with the president and the question going in, his approval ratings, set those aside. those are fairly meaningless compared to can he go to that building and actually cut deals and negotiate to get things done, and i think we're seeing so far, as just president-elect, that he's making some good progress on that. >> higher's the thing. john lewis put democrats in kind of an awkward position on friday. a lot of democrats are lyrics oh, no, now i'll have to be forced to defend president-elect trump. president-elect trump changed
the dynamic by engaging with him but a lot of democrats raised their eyebrows at john lewis doing that. >> he's congressman john lewis to make sure that we give him the requisite respect that he deserves, and 50 years ago everything he did is still important today. i as a democrat, we know that the russians have some impact, but they didn't go vote on election day, they didn't mess with the electronic data so there are democrats that get that and they didn't write the e-mails. democrats are going to have to wear that. but at the same time what the president-elect needs to do, this is not "the apprentice, white house edition." his tweets were insensitive. for him to categorize congressman lewis' district as in bad shape. >> crime-infested. >> it's not, by the way. >> fortune 500 companies, about 58% african-american, institutions of higher learning. it is diverse ethnically and diverse economically, so my memo to my white elected officials,
not just president-elect trump, but a lot of white elected officials make this mistake in making the african-american community a very homogenous. they read us the wrong way and everybody is poor and broken down. that is not the truth, so they need to come and visit some african-american communities and see the diversity of that community. the president is going to have to let some of this -- president-elect -- >> but -- >> let some of this stuff roll off? >> why does president-elect trump be the bigger man when you've seen calls for recall and attempt toy will legitimate sgliz when you're president you've got to the take the heat. >> that isn't what you were saying when president obama was attacking president obama. >> president obama took the heat and he rose with dignity. >> he did. >> he took all the blow blows and he'll leave office with one of the highest approval ratings in modern american history so the verdict is in on president obama. he took the heat.
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if putin likes donald trump, guess what, folks. that's called an asset, not a liability. >> that was president-elect donald trump talking about russian president putin and his hopes for a better relationship with him and with russia. others on capitol hill are worried about how much putin likes trump and what that might have meant during the election. the panel is back with me and senator santorum i rudely cut off. the mayor was talking about how well president obama took the slings and arrows when he was president. you take issue. >> i take big issue because president obama was probably one of the most vindictive presidents that we've ever dealt in going after individual members of congress and anybody who disagreed with him and that was one of his hallmarks. one of the things that made him hard to get things done was going after paul ryan while paul ryan is sitting right in front of him and trying to embarrass him. >> on medicare. >> and going after the supreme court during the state of the union address, trying to pulley the supreme court. this president has been a bully. this president has been tough.
he's done it in a cool way. i'll give you that. the guy has style, but it's not because he's been light handed or a soft touch. he's been a very tough touch. >> been a tough strong leader. >> okay. >> done it with dignity, and i think we expect presidents to be presidential. >> style. >> you're talking about style. >> it's comporting a sense of leadership and a sense of confidence in what we want our children to be. the presidency an important role mold and an important image, and i don't want my children believing that leaders speak in coarse language, that leaders attack anyone that says something about them like they are on the schoolyard playground. we have to get used to this tweeting, but let me say this. you learn this. when you as a high-powered person attack someone, you also elevate them. john mccain was elevated when donald trump attacked him. john lewis sell slated when
donald trump attacks him because they are elevated in the public consciousness because people don't really expect a president to do that. i would like us to certainly pivot as a country hand move to confronting some of the challenges we face if there's going to be a plan coming from this administration for america's urban communities. i'm all ears. >> let's turn back to the subject that this was about that you says we shouldn't avoid which was russia and the hacks of russia and now the senate intelligence committee is saying they are going to look into the role of russia and also any intelligence regarding links between russia and individuals associated with political campaigns. what do you make of this? >> they have to do that and reassure the american people that we will be protected, not just from russia, from china. we need the private sector to be engaged because we know sony got hacked a couple years ago. this is a big deal. this is a security issue from the public perspective and private perspective and we have to come together and do that.
that being said, we need no red scare in the 2010 i. we can't have a hedge monnation like the united states and russia getting involved in these fights back and forth. president trump is the president of america and has to makes that clear even though i believe he's taken some of the things that democrats are saying about the hacking and making it personal about his legitimacy. those are two separate things. for the record, president-elect donald trump won the electoral college and moy democratic colleagues need to understand that, and need to vibe with that and feel that and we need to decide what we're going to do starting this year, 2018, 2019 and 2020 going forward to win elections and to win over to get the power back so that we can push our agenda. those are the facts. this is a dr. king moment right here, a reverend dr. martin luther king moment, and he once said that we have to work together as brothers and sisters in there. >> please do, bring them in. >> brothers or sisters or perish together as fools and this is a moment where we have to come
together on the things that democrats can work with the president-elect with, they should. on the things that they can't, let's have at it. this is politics. >> agreed. >> sarah said it right. the proof is going to be in the pudding. donald trump is going to get a lot of stuff done. he heel get much more done than president barack obama ever thought of getting done, even tried to get done. >> let him make his point. >> donald trump have not an ideologue. he's not a partisan. he's extra partisan. he's a republican. >> kind of. >> in name only, and -- and ideologically he's certainly not an ideological conservative. he's going to go up there and do what he did when he was a businessman he'll make deals. you'll see a lot of things happen and i agree. his popularity will grow over time. he's going to have rough edges. it's a coarsening society and we have a president that reflects that, surprise. i always said the presidency is a reflection of us. we may not like that reflection sometimes, but we need to look in our own mirror when we see
that. >> i'll take that as your first prediction. >> i have to change the subject. had had a nice little speech there. that was lovely. let's look forward. what do you see happening here on inauguration day and moving forward? make it about the democrats if you want, i don't care. give us a little prediction. >> do we have to tear down the current president to lift up president-elect trump? that's what senator santorum -- that is what he just did. we shouldn't do that, and i agree with some of the things that he's saying. the president-elect is going to go there and do his thing. the question about whether he'll receipt the teleprompter, he'll do a little bit, a little country, rock 'n' roll. >> a little jazz, a little hip hop. >> little jazz, little hip hop. he wouldn't be who he is if he didn't throw in a few believe mes into his speech. >> sarah, what are we going to see on inauguration day and moving forward? >> so the day after the election, i thought he gave one of his best speeches that he's given. >> early morning. >> whatever, 3:00 a.m., and i
thought that was one of his best speeches and that was done on very short notice. steven miller is a talented speech writer so the speech itself will be pretty great. don't forget that this president understands how to reach the american people in a revolutionary way that we probably haven't seen since reagan took over television. you know >> i hope this idea of making america great becomes a real cause to make america great for everyone, and that everyone is included in the go forward. and there isn't an effort to roll back important gains particularly when it comes to civil rights and donald trump will nominate a mainstream moderate, supreme court justice. that's my hope. my hope is the rhetoric around an inner city plan is very real. i hold my hand up to say that there's a chance on that issue,
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contention relationship. >> donald trump. >> president-elect donald trump held his first televised press conference since the election and it got a little tense. >> i'm not going to give you a question. you are fake news. >> presidents as far back as the one who held the first televised press conference have been weary of taking our questions. >> i see we're trying a new experiment this morning. i hope it doesn't prove to be disturbing. >> richard nixon thought we were a tad intrusive. >> it's the responsibility of media to look at government generally, particularly at the president with a microscope. i don't mind a microscope but when they use a procotscope that's going too far. >> ronald reagan's press conference joked the president had a plan for reporters who got out of line.
>> i only had to push a button and splash. >> other presidents were more comfortable around us like l.b.j. who once answered reporters questions aboard air force one while striping down until he was only left in a towel. actually, answering questions while nude might be more common than you think if you believe the tale that john quincy adams was taking a skinny dip when he emerged to find the first female reporter sitting on top of his clothes forcing him to answer her questions. here at cnn we want to expose the truth about our leaders but not expose them. thanks for watching. fareed zakaria, gps is next.
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