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saturday still be fighting for change tomorrow or the day after or the day after. plus, president trump's first few days in office didn't exactly go according to plan, but is that par for the course for a new administration. the white house getting down to business today with executive actions including quitting tpp a major campaign promise. and attempting to reboot its relationship with the press by putting out a kinder, gentler sean spicer. we may not have seen the last of the alternative facts from the white house. jim, good evening, congressman mike pompeo was confirmed tonight to lead the cia. what can we expect from the director? >> he's a nominee, he's a republican, but he has the support of many republicans and democrats, you speak to them in public and in private as well, it's someone who gets very strong reviews from people on both sides of the aisle, as a
congressman, he was from, i think you can reasonably say from the right wing of the republican party, in terms of respect, in terms of the way he does his business, plus his background, graduated first in his class from west point, et cetera. people speak highly of him. he has a challenge on his hands, right? because he has an incoming president who has really picked a fight with the intelligence community. particularly over finding that russia hacked the election, and its assessment that it did so to aid -- whether it was successful or not, to aid donald trump in his victory. we have a president trump who has disparaged the intelligence community. can mike pompeo repair that? that's going to be one of his main challenges. >> you mentioned russia, another aspect of this, cnn is learning investigators are looking into calls between michael flynn and the russian ambassador to the u.s. explain what this investigation is all about?
>> law enforcement intelligence officials tell me that they are looking into phone calls, particularly in late december, between mike flynn the national security adviser and the russian add bass door to the u.s. that this investigation is ongoing, i should say that they have not established so far any wrongdoing by mike flynn, but they were looking in this, not only -- they are looking in this, not only at the fact that the calls took place, but they're interested in the content of the calls, the content of the calls raised some potential concerns about those conversations. i will reiterate, they have found no wrongdoing by mike flynn. mike flynn was not the target of this eavesdropping, it's routine, done by intelligence agencies targeting foreign officials, particularly those operating here in the u.s., it operated on the other end of the conversations was the national security adviser. >> jim, sean spicer made some claims today about the president's visit to the cia on saturday, trying to clean up the
mess left from this weekend. what he said, was it accurate? >> not entirely, frankly. he -- donald trump went to the cia and said the media created his feud with the intelligence agencies. it's not true. look them up on the internet, if you don't believe me. many tweets from the president, many public comments on tape, disparaging, dismissing, undermining the intelligence community. that's a fact, donald trump said the media created it, that's not true. sean spicer did not debunk that claim by president trump today. in fact his answer was somewhat species. he said there is no dispute with the cia, and you could tell, there was a five minute standing ovation by cia staff. there was no five minute standing ovation, there were claps. you heard it on the tape.
there's certainly no senior cia staff were clapping, a portion of those that were clapping came with the trump team. there were others who did applaud the president who made some of these comments, my understanding is, this was a self-selecting group you would volunteer to come in on a saturday. it's conceivable that people who supported the president came in, it's incorrect to say that there was a five minute standing ovation, that's less important. what's more important there were some cheers, does not eliminate the fact that the president has had a public -- i don't want to say feud, but publicly disparaged the intelligence community. >> i want to bring in brian and salina. let's talk about the president's first monday in office, he is tackling some very big issues, including withdrawing from the tpp. banning federal money on international abortions.
the white house is also downplaying other things like moving the u.s. embassy in israel. what do you make of today, salina. >> i would say he had a pretty good day. he had these meetings in the white house, his -- for the most part, his tone was measured and presidential. the optics were great, he's talking to people, he's signing things, that part -- and also, he lived up to the things he said he was going to do. on the first day -- on saturday, he signed measures to start to repeal obama care, today it was tpp, you know, so these are issues that were important to him. as far as some of the things he's tried to walk back on -- that happened on sunday, i mean, honestly, the fight that happened on sunday should have never happened. nobody cares about the size of anybody's crowds.
that kind of thing just sort of -- it's part of his personality, it's part of what voters understand he's like. nonetheless it was an unnecessary foul. >> and unforced error. >> yes. >>. >> during the president's first meeting with congressional leaders, he reiterated the claims, he lost the popular vote because of widespread voter fraud. again that's not true. surely all those elected officials who were in the room know it's not true, why say it, he's in the white house now he won. >> why say it? >> this is related to crowd size. it's about popularity. donald trump's brand for decades in new york and around the world is about winning, it's about success, he can't stand the fact that he lost the popular vote by more than 2 million votes. his aids believe the media repeats that fact partly to delegitimize his presidency.
we don't do it for that. it's a fact. this is part of a pattern. donald trump having to come up with a conspiracy theory, saying millions of illegal votes were cast, you showed those pictures from washington, can you imagine what congressional leaders would be doing if they thought millions of illegal votes would be cast? there would be daily investigations, there would be criminal prosecutions. it's a shame he's resorting to conspiracy theorys. >> anyone around him salena to tell him, stop it, or this is making you look smaller instead of the big worlder you are? >> i think most of today was strikingly different than yesterday. for the most part, today was a very successful today for mr.
trump. he's great at those kind of images, whether it's ribbon cuttings for hotels or -- >> >> he delivered on promises very quickly. >> that's how this information about illegal voting came out tonight the new york times framing this headline. if he wakes up in the morning, he'll see these headlines. >> was there someone reporting this, do we know if he was using it as a throwaway line or is this something that he was stating as a fact that it happened. >> let's talk about -- spicer's
press briefing today. or as kelly democrat anne conway put it. >> the white house sees this as part of a larger narrative. listen to this. >> it's demoralizing to turn on the tv, can't do this, this guy's not going to get confirmed. >> isn't that just part of the conversation that happens in washington? >> no, it's not. >> it comes with being president of the united states and -- >> no, i've been doing this a long time, you've been doing this too. i've never seen it like this, it's a little demoralizing, you're sitting there and looking out and you're in awe of just how awesome that view is, and how many people are there and you go back and turn on the television, and see shots of comparing this and that. >> is it a fair criticism you have bigger fish to fry? why worry about a couple tweets -- >> it's what i'm saying, you're minimizing the point. the default narrative is always
negative and it's demoralizing, you sit here and realize the sacrifices a guy made leaving a successful business, because he really cares about this country. >> well, the thing is, is that the media didn't discuss crowd size until donald trump discussed crowd size. nowhere in my coverage did i see it. i'm not watching 24 hours a day. >> yeah. >> do you remember when in 2006, they said, this black man will never be president, no one knows him, he's not black enough. he doesn't have enough washington experience. this woman is going to be president of the united states. she's been in the white house before. she's a senator for a long time, she's been the first lady, she's going to win. it sounds like the same thing, except the person then was barack obama and now it's donald trump. it's not as if the media is out to get him specifically, this is what happens in conversations leading up to an election. >> even local school board
officials feel like the media is negative. >> it is true, we don't cover the planes that land on time for the most part. i don't think our viewers want us too. this gets to the issue of success. >> my bigger point is not about the media, what i'm trying to say, most of those people just let it roll off their shoulders and realize this is what happens, and i am in a way, bigger than some of the reports that come out, bigger than that. why is the leader of the free world so concerned about that, it is perplexing. >> it is. >> salena. >> ronald reagan said it and did it best. just float above it, you can't read it every day. you can't pay attention to it every day, you can't let it own
you. can i make one point about that press conference? >> yes, you can. >> there's something -- two exciting things happened in that press conference today, for me, a reporter who lives out in pittsburgh. they -- >> the skype. >> yeah. >> that was great. i think that is so amazing. i mean, because there's so many sort of different voices in local news print reporting, that will -- >> they're setting up two skype stations i believe for -- >> four, i believe. >> four skype stations for reporters outside the beltway, so they get a chance to weigh-in on the process that -- on the political process in this country. >> yeah, i thought that was really great. i noticed that his communications team was -- trump's communications team was sitting off to the side of where sean spicer was, and they were all women. i also thought that was really great. i don't have a recent memory of that in the past few presidents. >> i thought it was great they called on smaller news
organizations, very early on. >> and let's point out, the new york post getting the first question. there were some very pro trump outlets as well. some of this was to disrupt the mainstream media, the cnn's of the world in the front row. it was a wide variety of questions including from jim acosta. this idea of demoralizing coverage, i thought it was very revealing about the president's mind-set. >> salena i'm with you, i think it's okay to call on smaller news organizations first. we have a very big platform and very big voice, we always will. it's great to have as many people to the table as possible. >> thank you very much. i appreciate it. frightening moment caught on camera tonight. mark dayton collapsed while delivering his state of the state address. you're watching it right now. the governor's chief of staff
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it's the end of day four for the interrupt administration. how is the president doing compared to his predecessors? here to discuss, author of "the ghosts of jim crowe." good evening to both of you. mr. higginbotham. you first. we have a new president. he came into office the same way he campaigned. he welcomed to the white house by enormous crowds of people protesting him worldwide. the next day, what are your thoughts at the beginning of this trump presidency? >> like many americans i watched on tv the inauguration events, and i saw the parties that were going on, and clearly it was
impressive, i think that president trump an inninger national celebrity, a corporate leader. he knows how to give a good party, i'm sure that the people that were attending enjoyed themselves. i even liked the first dance he did, frank sinatra "my way." there were some things that went on over the weekend that were problematic. the focus on the numbers, president obama clearly had higher numbers in if attendance for his inauguration, it's not a big deal. but the problem is, when you have a press secretary that has inaccurate numbers or exaggerates the numbers, it becomes problematic. you have a spokesperson that says alternative facts, then it becomes problematic, in addition, the inaugural speech, five days before he gives his speech, he talks to martin luther king iii. he says he wants to bring people together. but if you look at the inaugural
address, it was directed at his supporters, hen did the acknowledge secretary clinton, he did not acknowledge the many individuals who had valid disagreements with him. who didn't vote for him. i think that was very problematic. if you ask me what he should do, he needs to take a page from the civil rights movement, keep your eyes on the prize. focus on how to make things better. >> your opinion is clearly yours, if i were hillary clinton i don't know if i would want to be acknowledged. i would want to get in and out at the inaugural address. it was such a hard fought campaign. i take your point. douglas, it's clearly been a rocky start for trump. but he certainly seemed to get back on track, and meet with u.s. business leaders today. are you reassured at all of the past 24 hours? >> i think sean spicer started finding his footing. it's going to take a lot of good
press conferences for him to make up do the giant lie of the photograph about the obama's inauguration having less people than donald trump's. it's hard for presidents to get going out of the gate. when gerald ford came in, he thought, thank god, nixon's gone, he had to do a policy thing, pardoning of nixon, and people thought, god, there goes the ford presidency. bill clinton had a very rocky start. out of nowhere he started doing don't ask don't tell, meaning the whole gays in the military event. he got off to a rocky start, i've never seen bad visuals like donald trump in the cia. and that first spicer conversation to the press, it was loopy. today got a little better, but then late this evening, we heard the report about donald trump insisting there were 3 or 4 million fraudulent voters in the
united states. the sign of insanity is when you start believing your own bs. that's not true, about 3 or 4 million illegal people voting. it's going to be another rough media day for donald trump tomorrow. >> cnn is reporting that during his first meeting, he reiterated the claims about the popular vote because of widespread voter fraud. why -- as douglas has said. why even say it? >> i don't understand the focus, it seems that president trump is still in campaign mode, he needs to be in governing mode now, he needs to stop really worrying about adversaries, he's the president now, he can govern, he needs to focus on making things better, he needs to focus on improving education, he needs to
focus on rebuilding the infrastructure of the country. he needs to focus on making the affordable care act better. these are things that people need assistance now, and these are things that he can focus in on, i think he needs to stop worrying about the poll numbers, stop tweeting at 3:00 a.m. in the morning about personal petty things and keep his eyes on the prize. >> i want to play this, this is sean spicer an kellyanne conway, pushing back on the facts the administration disagrees with, listen to this. >> you're saying it's a falsehood and they're giving sean spicer our press secretary gave alternative facts to that. >> i think we can disagree with the facts. >> i'm going to ask you, is that what you should do, only present the facts that go along with your narrative? >> absolutely not. president john adams said facts are very stubborn things, they
don't change, you don't have a right to your own facts, you have a right to your own opinion but not to your own facts. alternative facts are lies. >> yeah, i agree. and i'm hoping that that can get cured, but i'm starting to get doubtful. i also think president trump needs to stopwatching so much tv and dealing with social media, i think he's getting distracted. he could have had a very strong day today, and in many ways did, when he was surrounded by the labor leaders in the oval office, doing away with the tpp. it's all kind of getting mixed up again. this evening because the reports from democrats that he's retrying to shop that steal and false tale about all these millions of voters that are illegally voting in america, that's conspiracy theorys, we expect presidents to be not shopping -- neil armstrong didn't go to the moon, and someone else bombed 9/11, you
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millions of women along with men and children marched in cities across the country and around the world the day after donald trump's inauguration as president. here to discuss, kcaylekayleigh mc mcenany. look at this i'm giving the view a run for its money. top that joy. i wanted to have you guys on to discuss this. kayleigh i'm going to start with you. >> i think it was a moment, because it was not a women's march, it was a liberal march.
42% of women voted for donald trump. i'm one of them. the fact that this women's march excluded prolife -- i don't see this being a cohesive movement, because they espoused the same statements as in the election. >> i believe the march put out a statement that they were not prolife and that's not what they were marching on behalf of. if they were eventually allowed to march. >> the march was open to all. >> i'm sorry, say again rachel? >> the core principles of the march, the core mission was prochoice, so anybody who had an anti-choice mission, that
wouldn't make any sense to partner, but it was open to anyone to march. it wasn't like there were bouncers. >> i would love to make a point about -- i think that the fact that this wasn't just a march about women, the fact that this was a march about equality across the board, and i think that a clear reason why that comes down to a question of ideology makes sense on that issue, and there's a partisanship there, i was marching in new york, and i saw signs for lgbtq rights, i heard chants for black lives matter. that to me means this is a movement, this is vocal outcry that is insisting upon a certain level of equality that many feel is being challenged. >> and i spoke with a trump supporter who is prolife, she said she marched as well. what stuck out to you most about this march, anna? >> the size of it.
the timing of it, that had happened the day after the inaugural. was a remarkable sight to see all of these red hat wearing trump supporters on the streets of washington, and all of this pink busy hat wearing march goers in the streets of washington, and there were no clashes. half a million people marched in washington, over 3 million marched around the united states. there was not one arrest. i think they did it the right way, they did it peacefully, on one day we saw the celebration of democratic success, the 45th president gets sworn in. the next day there were people protesting in a president. i think that's an awesome sight. it's an awesome message of democracy in action, whether it's going to be a moment or a movement, none of us know, but we do know that they made history, and i think people there were marching for all sorts of reasons. i think some -- i saw signs that were pro life, i saw signs that
were prochoice, proundocumented. signs that were funny. that were absolutely hilarious, i saw men marching, children marching, i saw women of all e ag agesing. they had a good positive feeling toward it. again, i think it's remarkable that these two things happened within hours of each other and world war ii didn't eruptd. >> i want you guys to listen to -- i should sese equipment, you know what i mean. here's sean spicer, what he said today about saturday. >> i think he has a healthy respect for the first amendment. and he -- this is what makes our country so beautiful. is that on one day you can inaugurate a president, the next day, people can occupy the same space to protest something. but he's also cognizant to the fact that a lot of these people
were there to protest an issue of concern to them, and not against anything. >> to you. as a conservative woman, do you agree with sean spicer? >> i think one of the -- i agree with everyone here, that it was remarkable to see such a huge turnout. and it was peaceful, and it was a good day, it was a good two days of people coming out here on the streets of washington. but like haley said, this was a liberal woman's march. and one of the problems moving forward is that they were defined by gender and not by purpose, i think that's going to be a problem moving forward. much like hillary clinton, without a common purpose, it will be difficult to move forward. i think what we're seeing with donald trump here, he was able to galvanize millions of women, unlike hillary clinton was able to. if they could capitalize on their ability to organize like they have, and really get people together for a common purpose, i think they do have a movement and not just a moment.
>> rachel, before -- simone, you've been sitting by patiently. >> i want to push back here on what kayleigh said, the notion that women came out so strongly for donald trump. hillary clinton won the popular vote by 2.9 million votes. donald trump didn't win women, he won white women, i think it's really important to note that this was a huge protest. it was probably the largest protest in united states history. >> we're not denying that, but to your point -- >> donald trump won 53% of the white women vote, that's more than hillary clinton, to say he can't -- >> you guys are both talking at the same time. >> i strongly disagree with the delusion of what happened on saturday, because it was remarkable. and it was a remarkable repudiation of the threat of rights being rolled back under this president. >> to that point.
do you think the white house is kidding itself when it says that these women weren't protesting against donald trump? >> yes, i also think the white house is kidding itself, and they're again trying to give us these alternative facts, these lies and saying that the president-elect -- pardon me, the president respects the first amendment, we all know he has bullied and belittled folks that have spoken unite against him. this march was a lot, it was a protest, it was a coming out for women's rights. and i want to push back on the notion that because prolife organization wasn't included in the partnership, it wasn't a march for all women, i think the foundation of the women's rights movement is the expansion of women's rights and not the limitation, to include a group that is about the limitation of the rights of women, it's anti-foundation of the women's rights movements. i can advocate for voting rights, i don't have to vote. you should not be kept from voting.
you don't have to believe in abortion, or even want abortions to happen. but one should not be kept from having an abortion. the last point i want to make, this march encampused women of color, women of color often times have not come out for the women's movement, because of the history of the women's rights movement. we have to be careful saying there was no marches. especially around marches around police brutality. officers are much more willing to jump in in the protester crowd, than they are when a group of women, predominantly white women are protesting, we have to be careful with that. >> i promise, first word on the other side of the break. and now, i help people find discounts,
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of the movement. rolling back the rights of women. i disagree with that characterization entirely. it's prochoice groups who limit the rights of women. >> how so, kayleigh. >> no, i listened the whole time. the prochoice are the ones limiting the right to life for millions of unborn babies who are slaughtered to the tune of half a million each year. those are the groups who are rolling back the rights of women. and you want to talk about athis add myth station rolling back the rights of women, not so. this administration wants to put in place paid maternity leave. it's easy to go out there and scream about women -- name a right trump wants to take away from you. >> the fundamental and constitutional enshrined and protected right to choice. the single most critical thing that a woman can do for her own economic autonomy is to have a
child. and that should be the choice of a woman for a whole host of reasons. to say that the prochoice is movement is limiting the rights of women is a complete alternative fact. >> an unborn baby has no rights. >> i'd like to note that donald trump on the campaign trail definitely said that women should be punished for having an abortion, and then today, he signed legislation that totally codified the things that he said on the campaign trail, that demonstrated that he is not here "for the rights of women." to expand on this conversation, i think when we talk about women's rate rights and the movements for women, it's diverse in the way it looks, in perspectives and we can no -- >> it's surprising to me as a man, that the conversation often revolves around reproductive rights when -- i mean, women are concerned about the economy, concerned about jobs, about health care. >> i think the reason that
fundamental equality. that equality requires reproductive rights. something simone touched on, we often forget, you can be prolife and prochoice, but the movement, the feminist movement, the march for equality requires reproductive rights in order to achieve social, economic equality. >> it also includes the rights of lgbtq people. >> ladies, i think we're getting way too narrow with this discussion. this discussion has become a debate about abortion or not abortion. >> exactly. >> this march was much more than that. let's remember how this march started. this march started by one citiz citizen, one mom, one woman in hawaii who posted she was going to go march. the next thing she knew, thousands of women were saying, i'm going with you. this then got co opted by organizations, but this was at its root a citizen led, citizen
activated effort. and i think women were there were marching for a whole host of reasons, i think a lot of women and men and their allies were there because they were very concerned at the tone during the campaign. they're concerned that their voices may not be heard, in this administration, frankly, the man's been president for 90 hours, we don't know what he's going to do or not going to do, i think people were there to send a message. the pussycats wanted to be heard roaring. and that's exactly what they did. so let's not get into this narrow silo about abortion. you guys are falling straight for that trap. >> go ahead, rachel. >> the point that when you -- note the busy hats, i think the whole point, it was an unbelievably organic movement. women knit their own hats and it exploded in an organic way, atop the heads of all the marchers, in if an unmissable way, the
whole point of these pointy eared pink caps you saw everyone wearing is because the president of the united states was caught on tape talking about how he felt entitled to grab women by the -- and it's all yours. >> that's not what it was. 42% of women turned out and voted for trump. don't purport to support all women. >> 42% of all women. all women. >> black and latino women were not voting for donald trump. the march -- let's be clear on that point. it was white women that elected donald trump. the second thing is, this march sent a message not just to donald trump, it was a message to democrats, it was letting them know, that all of those people out there in the streets are ready for change. this should empower and embolden democrats to go out there and speak truth to power on women's issues. >> alison long on the other side.
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control and reproductive rights, where i think, as a woman, and many women that i know and speak with, all issues are women's issues, not just reproductive rights. i think it's important to keep in mind, this issue in this march started with frustration and disappointment at hillary clinton's loss, and now it's morphed into questioning what donald trump will do for women. and i think already he's shown he's going to stand up for women when it comes to what he's put in place for childcare and what he's doing for putting women in office and equal pay for women. i think as sean spicer said today, watch his actions and his deeds, and we'll see soon enough that he is out there to promote women, and to make women's lives better in all areas when it comes to -- but i think one thing that's important moving forward with this movement. a shared sentence of victimhood is not a way to bring about change. i think if they take this one step further and find that one mission, one cause and continue and stay engaged, i think there's a great movement ahead.
[ all speak at once ] >> let lauren in. >> i didn't feel a sense of victimhood. i will tell you, i felt a sense of girl power, empowerment. look, let me tell you something, any man who's watching this right now, any man who's got a daughter, a wife, a girlfriend, a mother, knows that one pissed off woman is a lot on your hands. three million pissed off women marching in the streets of the united states should make everybody's middle ears perk up. >> i just let them say what they want because i don't want the wrath of any of you. but lauren, go ahead to that point. you can put up the tweet, donald trump tweet body it. he said, watched protest yesterday, was under the impression that we just had an election. why didn't these people vote. then he said peaceful protest is a hallmark of our democracy, even if i don't always agree. that was the next day after. so, i guess sort of correcting himself. do you think this got under his skin? >> i do.
i do think this got under his skin, but i would encourage him to stop thinking in terms of winning and losing. i feel like he often thinks in terms of who is against him and who are the losers comes up a lot in the rhetoric of the tweets. this is a huge bloc of people that turned up in hundreds of cities, over three million people, and we don't have a full count. this is a representative portion of the american public to show up and get out and be marching. and it's not about victimhood. i think the points we were making earlier about getting caught up in individual issues, this was about sending a message about fighting for equality and doing so with unity and solidarity and positivity. i mean, it was exuberant when i was there. >> if i can do a lightning round with all of you, we have a little bit of time here on the air. lightning round about what you each think about the people who marched on saturday. what should they do next? what should they do next? >> give donald trump a chance because he's proposing to increase women's rights not
retract them. >> lauren? >> something. call your congress people. call your representatives. donate if you can. commit to doing something every single day in some small way. >> simone? >> take the fight locally. look, we need women's rights and this fight for equality, equity across the board locally. so we need women of color engaged and involved at every level. if you don't have a women of color on your board, put her on your board. if you're doing planning, involve women of color, we need to get engaged. >> alice? >> run for office. these people would be tremendous public servants, or get involved in voter registration. definitely get involved. >> hang on to those pusy hats, because from all indications, from donald trump's cabinet picks and his behavior over the campaign and as president-elect and as president, it seems pretty clear that we're all gonna need them. >> miss navarro? >> look, i think we all need to
stay engaged. we need to stay informed. we need to stay active. we need to register to vote. we need to register our friends and our family to vote. if all that fails, drink, eat haagen dazs and open up a knit shop. [ laughter ] >> anna, thank you for the levity. i appreciate all of you. thank you so much, hope that we can continue this conversation. i appreciate your candor. thanks so much for joining us. that's it for us tonight. thanks for watching. i'll see you right back here tomorrow.
>> good evening. thanks very much for joining us. a big night at the end of a big day for the trump administration. and significant news about the protest marches. in washington, across the country and around the world. the president taking major executive action, meeting with lawmakers today, business as well as labor leaders. his critics launching legal action against what they see as conflicts of interest and in their view a clash with the constitution itself. also his press secretary's first official q&a session for members of the media today and tough questions about the president's boasting of crowd figures at the cia's memorial wall and saturday's rant at reporters. on top of all that there's new cnn reporting on the fbi investigating calls between trump national security adviser michael flynn and the russian ambassador to washington. that and the senate acting on a pair of nominations plus bernie sanders joins us for his perspective on pretty much all