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va is it a he moment or a movement? this is cnn tonight. i'm don lemon. millions of women along with men and children taking to the streets of cities across the country and around the world, but will the people who marched on saturday still be fighting for change tomorrow or the day after or the day after? plus, president trump's first few days in office didn't exactly go according to plan,
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but is that par for the course for a new administration? and the white house getting down to business today with executive actions including quitting tpp, a major campaign promise, and attempting to reboot its relationship with the press by putting out a kinder, gentler sean spicer. but we may not have seen the last of the so-called alternative facts from the white house. let's get right to cnn's jim sciutto with some breaking news for us tonight. jim, good evening to you. congressman mike pompeo was confirmed today to lead the cia. what can we expect from the director? >> well, listen, he's the nominee. he's a republican, but he has the support of many republicans and democrats. you speak to them in public and in private as well, it's someone who gets very strong reviews from people on both side of the aisle. listen, as a congressman, he was from i think you could reasonably say from the right wing of the republican party, but in terms of respect, in terms of the way he does his
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business, plus his background, graduated first in his class from west point, et cetera, people speak highly of him. now, he has a challenge on his hands, right, because he has an incoming president who has really picked a fight with the intelligence community, particularly over its finding that russia hacked the election and its assessment that it did so to aid, whether it was successful or not, but to aid donald trump in his victory. we have a president trump who has disparaged the intelligence community. can mike pompeo repair that trust, particularly with the rank and file? that's going to be one of his main challenges. >> you mentioned russia, jim, another aspect of this is cnn is learning u.s. investigators are looking into calls between national security advisor michael flynn and the russian ambassador to the u.s. explain what this investigation is all about. >> that's right. law enforcement intelligence officials tell me and my colleague evan perez that they are looking at a phone call, particularly in late december
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between mike flynn, general mike flynn the national skurtd advisor and the russian ambassador to the u.s. that this investigation is ongoing. i should say that they have not established so far any wrongdoing by mike flynn, but they were looking in this not only -- they are looking in this not only at the fact the calls took place, but they're interested in the content of the calls, the content of the calls raised some potential concerns about those conversations. i will reiterate they have found no wrongdoing by mike flynn. i should also make clear that mike flynn was not the target of this eavesdropping. this eavesdropping is routine. it's done by intelligence agencies targeting foreign officials particularly those operating here in the u.s. it just happened on the other end of the conversations was the national security advisor. >> jim, sean spicer made some claims today about the president's visit to the cia on saturday, trying to clean up the mess left from this weekend. what he said, was it accurate? >> not entirely, frankly.
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donald trump went to the cia and said that the media created the feud -- his feud with the intelligence agencies and that's just not true. look them up on the internet if you don't believe me. many tweets from the president, many public comments on tape, disparaging, dismissing, undermining the intelligence community. so, that's a fact. donald trump at the cia said that the media created and and called us the most dishonest people in the world. that's not true. sean is spicer did not debunk that claim by donald trump today. in fact, his answer was somewhat specious. i mean he said, listen, there is no dispute with the cia and you could tell baz because there was a five-minute standing ovation by cia staff. there were claps, you heard it on the tape there, but we had people inside that room and i've spoken to people in the cia and they said that certainly no cia senior staff was clapping. they said a portion of those who were applauding were people who came with the trump team. there were others in the cia who
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did applaud the president when he made some of these comments, but my understanding is that this was kind of a self-selecting group that you would volunteer to come in on a saturday so it's perhaps conceivable that people who supported the president came in. but it's incorrect to say, one, it's incorrect to say there was a five-minute standing ovation. that is less important. what is more important is the fact there were some cheers does not eliminate the fact that the president has had a public -- i don't want to say feud because that kind of demeans it. but has publicly and repeatedly disparaged the intelligence community. >> jim sciutto, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> i want to bring in cnn's brian selter and katrina. first let's talk about the president's first monday in office. he is tackling some very big issues including withdrawing from the tpp, imposing a federal hiring freeze, banning federal money on international abortions, but the white house is also down playing other things like moving the u.s. embassy in israel. what do you make of today, salina? >> well, all in all i would say that he had a pretty good day.
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he had these meetings in the white house. for the most part, his tone was, you know, measured and presidential. the optics were great. he's talking to people. he's signing things. so, that part -- and also he lived up to the things that he said he was going to do. on the first day, on saturday he signed measures that start to repeal obamacare. today it was tpp, you know. so, these are issues that were important to him. as far as some of the things he's tried to walk back on that happened on sunday, i mean, honestly, the fight that happened on sunday should have never happened. [ inaudible ] and that kind of thing just sort of -- it's part of his personality. it's part of what voters understand what he's like. nonetheless, it was an
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unnecessary foul. >> yeah, and unforced error. yes. >> yes. >> so, brian, we can also report tonight that during the president's first meeting with congressional leaders he again reit rated the claims that he lost the popular vote was, false claims, because of widespread voter fraud. again, that is not true. surely all those elected officials who were in the room, they know it's not true so why say it? he's in the white house now, he won? >> why say it? this is actually related to crowd size. that's why he cares about the attendance at the inauguration. it's about popularity. decades around the world, it is about winning, it's about success. he can't stand the fact that he lost the popular vote by more than 2 million votes. in fact, his aides believe the media repeats that fact partly to dee legitimatize his presidency. that's not true. we repeat it because it happened and because it creates some tension in our politics. but more importantly, this is partd of a pattern, whether it's insecurity or something else,
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donald trump having to come up with in this case a conspiracy theory saying millions of illegal votes were cast, you showed those pictures from washington. can you imagine if they thought millions of votes were cast? there would be daily investigations, criminal prosecutions. donald trump is making this up. on day four of his presidency, it's a shame he's resorting to conspiracy theories. >> nina round him have the power or the will to, salina, to say -- to tell him, stop it, or this is making you look smaller instead of the big world leader that you are? >> yeah. >> i suspect that there are and i suspect that sometimes they get through to him. i think most of today showed that -- today was strikingly different than yesterday. for the most part today was a very successful day for mr. trump. >> until the end. >> the interesting thing visually, the photo ops were interesting. >> they were. >> it's great to have those kind
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of images, whether ribbon cuttings on hotels. >> he delivered on promises in campaigns. >> however there, were anonymous sources describing what happened in the congressional meeting. that's how this information about illegal voting came out, this conspiracy theory. by the way, tonight the new york times framing this as a lie in its headline, politico using the word debunked. donald trump is going to wake up if he's sleeping now. he's going to see these headlines and i wonder how he'll react. >> go ahead, salina. >> did he know -- was there someone reporting this? was he using it as a throw way line or is this something that he was stating as a fact that it happened? >> i think you're right. the context matters and we don't know since these are mostly anonymous sources describing this encounter between the congressional leaders and trump. >> let's talk about, sean spicer's press briefing. after misinforming the press on the inauguration crowd size or as kellyanne conway put it, offered alternative facts, he
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said the white house sees this as part of a larger narrative. listen to this. >> it's a little demoralizing to turn on the tv day after day and can't do this, this guy is not going to get confirmed, no, they're not going to go through. >> isn't that part of the conversation that happens in washington? >> no, it's not. >> after becoming president of the united states and -- >> no, look, i've been doing this a long time. you've been doing this, too. i've never seen it like this. it's a little demoralizing because when you're sitting there and you're looking out and you're in awe of just how awesome that view is and how many people are there and you go back and you turn on the television and you see shots of comparing this and that -- >> you have bugger fish to fry. why worry about a couple of tweets? >> because that's what i'm saying. you're minimizing the point here, jim. it's not about one tweet. the narrative and the default narrative is always negative and it's demoralizing. and i think that when you sit here and you realize the sacrifice the guy made of leaving a very, very successful business, because he really cares about this country.
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>> well, the thing is that the media didn't discuss crowd size until donald trump discussed crowd size. nowhere in our coverage did i see it. i'm not watching 24 hours a day. >> there was not a lot of attention -- >> do you remember when in 2006 they said this black man will never be president, no one knows him, he's not black enough, he doesn't have enough washington experience. this woman is going to be president of the united states. she's been in the white house before. she is a senator for a long time, she's been the first lady. she's going to win. it sounds like the same thing, except the person then was barack obama and now the person is donald trump. it's not as if the media is out to get him specifically. this is what happens in conversations leading up to an election. >> even a local school board officials feel like the media is negative. to some degree that's true. it is true we don't cover the planes that land on time for the most part. i don't think our viewers want
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us to. this gets again to the issue of success. donald trump is in many ways successful, he wants to feel successful. when he sees something otherwise on the tv he doesn't like it. >> my bigger point is not about the media. what i'm trying to say is most of those people just let it roll off their shoulders and realize this is what happens, and i am in a way bigger than some of the reports that came out, bigger than that. why is the leader of the free world so concerned about that? it is perplexing. >> it is. >> salina? >> you know, ronald reagan said it and did it best. just float above it. you can't read it every day. you can't pay attention to it every day. you can't let it own you. but can i make one point about the -- >> of course you can, absolutely. >> throuere are two exciting ths
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that happened today in the press conference for me, especially a reporter who lives out in pittsburgh. >> the skype. >> yeah. >> that was great. >> that is amazing, there are so many different voices in local newsprint reporting that -- >> by the way, they're setting up two skype stations, i believe -- >> four. >> four skype stations for reporters who are outside the beltway so that they get a chance to weigh in on the process that -- political process in this country. go ahead, skrks a lina. >> i thought that was really great. i also noticed his communications team, trump's communication team was sitting off to the side of where sean spicer was. and they were all women. i also thought that was really great. i don't have a recent memory of that in the past few presidencies. >> i also thought it was great they called on smaller news organizations very early on. >> let's point out the new york post getting the first question, broadcasting network, there were some very pro-trump outlets as
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well. one america news network called on wouldn't normally be called on. some of this was to disrupt the mainstream media, the cnns in the world on the front row. i thought it was important, it was a wide variety of questions, including jim accosta. this demoralizing coverage i thought it was revealing about the president's mind-set. >> salina, i'm with you. i think it's great to call on smaller news organizations first. we have a big platform and big voice and always will. it's great to have as many people at the table as possible. >> i think that brings the trust level back with people and the news organizations. >> i've got to run. appreciate it. frightening call on camera, he collapsed while delivering the state of the state address. aides rushing to catch him before he fell to the ground many you're watching it now. the governor's chief of staff issuing the statement, he quickly recovered, walked out of the capital and went back home. of course, we're glad he's okay and we wish him good health.
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when we come right back, by any measure president trump has had a rocky start, but how do the early days of his administration compare to other presidents? here's how he stacks up on press briefings. li
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it's the end of day four for the trump administration. how is the new president doing
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compared to his predecessors? here to discuss, the professor of constitutional law at the university of baltimore and the author of ghosts of jim crow. also douglas brinkley, author of rightful heritage, franklin d. roosevelt and the land of america. good evening to both of you. mr. higenbothem, you first. >> hey, don. >> we have a new president. he came into office the way he campaigned from his inaugural speech, first real date in office and he welcomed to the white house by enormous crowds of people protesting him worldwide the next day. what are your thoughts at the beginning of this trump presidency? >> well, like many americans, i watched on tv the inauguration events, and i saw the parties that were going on. and clearly it was impressive. i think that president trump, an international celebrity, a corporate leader, like president
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reagan and president kennedy, he knows how to give a god party. so, i'm sure that the people that were attending enjoyed them self. i even liked the first dance he did, frank sin atr a my way. that said there, were some things that went on over the weekend that were problematic. the focus on the numbers. president obama clearly had higher numbers in attendance for his inauguration. it's not a big deal, but the problem is when you have a press secretary that has inaccurate numbers or that exaggerates the numbers, then it becomes problematic. you have a spokesperson that says alternative facts, then it becomes problematic. in addition, the inaugural speech, five days before he gives his inaugural speech he talks to martin luther king iii. he says he wants to bring people together. but if you look at the inaugural address, it was directed at his supporters. he didn't acknowledge secretary clinton. he did not acknowledge the many
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individuals who had valid disagreements with him. who didn't vote for him. so, i think that was very problematic. now, if you ask me what he should do, i think he needs to take a page from the civil rights movement, keep your eyes on the prize, focus on how to make things better. >> listen, your opinion, your point of view is clearly yours. if i were hillary clinton, i don't know i would want to be acknowledged. i think i would want to get in and probably get out at the inaugural address because it was such a hard-fought campaign. i didn't see anything wrong with him not mentioning her, but i take your point. douglas, it's clearly been a rocky point for trump, but he's seemed to get back on track and meet with u.s. business leaders today. are you reassured at all of the past 24 hours? >> well, i think sean spicer started finding his footing, but it's going to take a lot of good press conferences for him to make up to the giant lie of the photograph about the obama's
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inauguration having less people than donald trump's. you know, but it's hard, don, for presidents sometimes to get going out of the gate. i mean, when gerald ford came in, for example, people thought, thank god nixon is gone, gerald ford is in. he had to do a policy thing, pardoning of nixon. people thought, there goes the ford presidency. bill clinton had a rocky start. he started doing don't ask, don't tell, the gays in the military event. he got off to a kind of rocky start. but i've never seen bad visuals by donald trump at the cia and the first spicer, you know, conversation to the press. it was loopy. today got a little bit better, but late this evening we heard the report about donald trump insisting that there were 3 or 4 million fraudulent voters in the united states and the sign of insanity is when you start believing your own b.s. that's not true about 3 or 4 million
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illegal people voting. so, it's going to be, i'm afraid, another rough media day for donald trump tomorrow. >> michael, cnn is reporting that during his first meeting as douglas said with leaders, he reiterated claims about the popular vote because of widespread voter fraud, he said. why -- it's false, as we said, as douglas has said. so why even say it? >> i don't understand the focus. it seems that president trump is still in campaign mode and he needs to be in governing mode now. he needs to stop really, you know, worrying about adversaries. he's the president now and, so, he can govern. he needs to focus on making things better. he needs to focus on improving education, job creation and urban areas. he needs to focus on rebuilding the infrastructure of the country. he needs to focus on making the affordable care act better.
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these are things that people need assistance now, and these are things that he can focus in on. so, i think he needs to stop worrying about the poll numbers, stop tweeting at 3:00 a.m. in the morning about personal petty things and keep his eyes on the prize. >> okay. listen, i want to play this. this is sean spicer and kellyanne conway pushing back on the facts the administration disagrees with. listen to this. >> you're saying it's a falsehood and they're giving sean spicer, our press secretary, gave alternative facts to that. >> i believe that we have to be honest with the american people. i think sometimes we can disagree with the facts. >> i'm going to ask you, michael, is that what you should do only present the facts that go along with your narrative? >> absolutely not. president john adams said facts are very stubborn things. they don't change. you don't have a right to your own facts. you have a right to your own opinion, but not to your own facts. >> douglas?
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>> alternative facts are lies. >> douglas? >> i agree, and i'm hoping that that can get cured. but i'm starting to get doubtful. i also think president trump needs to stopwatchi watching so tv and social media. he's getting distracted. he could have had a strong day today, he did when he was surrounded by the labor leaders in the oval office, doing away with the transpacific trade pact. but it's getting mixed up again this evening because the reports from democrats that he's trying to reshop that stale and false tale about all these millions of voters that are illegally voting in america. that's conspiracy theories. we expect presidents to be not shopping and neil armstrong didn't go to the moon, somebody else bombed during 9/11, the trade towers. >> thank you, douglas, thank you, michael. i appreciate t. when he with come right back, millions of
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people marched against president trump. can they keep it going? here's another look at how president trump stacks against his predecessors. children: grandpa!
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millions of women along with men and children marched in cities across the country and around the world the day after donald trump's inauguration as president. here to discuss cnn political commentator, award winning journalist and weekend editor for teen vogue, rachel, founder of the list, a platform for professional women from all industries and cnn political commentator and anna and also alice stewart. look at this. i'm giving the view a run for its money. top that, woop i and joy. [ laughter ] >> let's talk about this. i've been wanting to have you guys on to discuss this. so, thank you for coming on. kayly, i'm going to start with you. what you saw this weekend was it a movement or a moment? >> i think it was a moment, particularly because it was not a women's march, it was a liberal march. there are 42% of women who voted for donald trump. i'm one of them.
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the fact that this women's march excluded pro-life groups who specifically asked to be included meant that this was just a march on behalf of liberal causes and the democratic party. so, while i support your right to free exercise of your opinion, i don't see this being a cohesive movement because they espouse the same values that got rejected in the election. >> as i understand, the women were able to march. they just didn't like the signs or maybe they were concerned about them joint partnering with. >> i believe, and you can correct me if i'm wrong, i believe the march actually put out a statement that they were not pro-life and that's not what they were marching on behalf of. so, whether they were eventually allowed to march, i'm not -- >> they were not noticed, but of course the march was open to all. >> i'm sorry, say again, rachel? >> the core principles of the march, the core mission was pro choice. so, anybody who had an antichoice mission obviously that wouldn't make any sense to partner, but it was open to anyone to march.
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i mean, it wasn't like there were bouncers. >> i want to make a point. i actually think this wasn't just a march about women. the fact this was a march about equality across the board, and i think that a clear reason why that come down to a question of ideology makes sense on that issue, and there is a partisan ship there. but i was marching in new york and i saw signs for lgbtq rights. i heard chants for black lives matter and i heard so many supportive voices and that to me means this is a movement. this is a vocal outcry that is insisting upon certain level of equality that many feel is being challenged. >> yeah, and i spoke with a trump supporter who is pro life and she said she marched as well. what g what stuck out to you most about this march, anna? >> the size of it, the timing of
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it, the fact it happened the day after the inaugural. it was a remarkable sight to see all these red hat wearing trump supporters on the streets of washington and pink pus sy hat wearers in the march in washington and there were no clashes. half a million people marched in washington. over 3 million marched around the united states. there was not one arrest. i think they did it the right way. they did it peacefully. on one day we saw the dell brags of democratic succession, the 45th president got sworn in. the next day there were people protesting that president. and i think that's an awesome sight. it's an awesome message of democracy in action. whether it's going to be a moment or a movement, none of us know, but we do know that they made history. and, you know, i think people were marching for all sorts of reasons. i think -- i saw signs that were pro life. i saw signs that were pro choice. i saw signs that were pro
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undocumented. i saw signs that were funny, that were absolutely hilarious. i saw men marching, i saw children marching, i saw women of all ages marching. it had a good positive feeling towards it. and again, i think it's remarkable that these two things happened within 24 hours of each other in the same city, and world war 3 didn't erupt. >> yeah, there were no arrests or anything related to the march. i want you guys to listen to what, i should say women, guys, you know what i mean, just using the vernacular. here is press secretary sean spicer, what he said today about saturday. >> i think he has a healthy respect for the first amendment. and he -- this is what makes our country so beautiful, is that on one day you can inaugurate a president and the next day people can occupy the same space to protest something. he's also cognizant a lot of the fact the people were there to protest an issue of concern to them and not against anything. >> so, alice, to you as a
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conservative woman, do you agree with sean spicer? >> i think one of the -- i agree with everyone here that it was remarkable to see such a huge turnout and it was peaceful and it was a good day. it was a good two days of people coming out here on the streets of washington. but like haley said, this was not a woman's march, this was a he livid liberal women's march. they were defined by gender and not by purpose. that is going to be a problem moving forward. much like hillary clinton, without a common purpose it will be difficult to move forward. i think what we're seeing with donald trump here, he was able to galvanize millions of women unlike hillary clinton was able to. if they can capitalize on their ability to organize like they have and really get people together for a common purpose, i think they do have a movement and not just a moment. >> okay. rachel, simone, you've been
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sitting by patiently. rachel is on skype. what were you saying? >> i want to push back here on what haley said, the notion that women came out so strongly for donald trump. hillary clinton won the popular vote by a stunning 2.9 million votes. donald trump didn't win women, he won white women. and i think it's really important to note that this was a huge protest. it was possibly the largest protest in -- >> we're not denying that. to your point, donald trump won 53% of the white women vote. that's more than hillary clinton. so, i think to say that he can't -- >> you guys are both talking at the same time. >> i strongly disagree with the dilution of what happened on saturday because it was remarkable. and it was a remarkable repudiation of the threat of rights being rolled back under this president. >> and, simone, to that point, do you think the white house is kidding itself when it says that
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these women weren't protesting against donald trump? >> yes. i also think the white house is kidding itself and they are again trying to give us these quote-unquote alternative facts, these lies and saying that the president-elect -- pardon me, the president respects the first amendment because we all know that he has bullied and belittled folks that have spoken out against him. look, i think this march was a lot. it was a protest. it was a coming out for women's rights. and i want to push back on the notion that because pro life organization wasn't included and the partnership, it wasn't a march for all women. i think the foundation of the women's rights movement is expansion of women's rights and not the limitation. and to include a group that is about the limitation of the rights of women is kind of anti-to the foundation of women's rights movement. i can advocate for voting rights, you don't have to vote, you know what i mean? you should not be kept from voting. you don't have to believe in abortion or even want abortions to happen. but one should not be kept from
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having an abortion. the last point i want to make is the point on intersectionality. i think this march encompassed women of color and that was really important. women of color oftentimes have not come out for the women's movement because it is a history of the women's rights movement. to point out there was no violence, i think we have to be careful with that because a lot of times especially in marches against police brutality and things of that nature, officers are much more willing to jump in in the protesting crowds than they are in a group of women predominantly white women in some areas of the march are protesting. we have to be careful with that. >> i promised first on the other side of the break, have to get to the break. we'll be right back.
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back now. kayly is here, rachel, simone, and alice stewart. i'm going to step back and let everybody talk. kaylee, you took umbrage with something simone was saying? >> yes, she referred to the pro life group that wanted to be part of this movement as wanting to roll back the rights of women or limiting the rights of women
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when, in fact, i disagree with that characterization entirely. in fact, it's pro choice groups who limit the rights of women and that's the right to life -- >> how so, kaylee? >> i listened the whole time. let me finish. the pro choice are the ones limiting the right to life for millions of unborn women and babies who are slaughtered to the tune of half a million each year. those are the groups who are rolling back the rights of women. and you want to talk about this administration rolling back the rights of women, rachel? no. >> how so? >> this administration wants to put in place paid maternity leave. it is ease toy scream about trump wanting to take away your rights. name for me the right trump wants to take away from you? >> to your point, the very fundamental and constitutionally enshined and protected right to pro choice. the single most critical thing that a woman can do for her own economic autonomy is to have a child.
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and that should be the choice of a woman for a whole host of reasons. but to say that the pro choice movement is limiting the rights of women is a complete alternative fact. >> an unborn baby has no rights. no right to choice. >> i'd also like to note donald trump on the campaign trail definitely said women should be pubd for having an abortion. today he signed legislation that totally codified the things that he said on the campaign trail, that demonstrated he is not here, quote-unquote, for the rights of women. but just to expand on this conversation, i think that when we talk about women's rights and the movement for women, it's diverse. it's diverse in the way it looks. it's diverse in the way of perspectives. we can no longer be about -- >> it's surprising to me as a man, the conversation often revolves around reproductive rights when women are concerned about the economy, women are concerned about, you know, jobs, about health care.
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>> don, equality would require reproductive rights, something simone touched on we often forget, you can be pro life and pro choice, but the movement, the feminist movement march for equality requires reproductive rights in order to achieve social economic and political -- >> it also requires -- >> don? >> okay, go ahead, anna. >> ladies, i think we're getting way too narrow with this discussion. this discussion has now become a debate about abortion or -- >> exactly, thank you. >> this march was about much more than that. let's remember how this march started. this march started by one citizen, one mom, one woman in hawaii who posted -- because she was so upset about donald trump getting elected that she was going to go march. next thing she knew, she woke up the next day and thousands of women had said -- were saying, i'm going with you. this then go co-opted by organizations. this was at its root a citizen-led, citizen-activated, citizen-started, initiated effort.
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and i think women there were marching for a whole host of reasons. i think a lot of women and men and their allies were there because they were very concerned at the tone during the campaign. the concern that their voices may not be heard in this administration. frankly, the man has been president for 90 hours. we don't know what he's going to do or what he's not going to do. i think people were there to send a message. the pus sy cats wanted to be heard roaring and that's exactly what they did. let's not get into this narrow silo about abortion. you guys are falling straight for that trap. >> go ahead, rachel. go ahead. >> when you note the pus sy hats, it was an unbelievably organic movement of there was a pattern posted to the internet and women knit their own hats and it exploded in an organic way. atop the heads of all, unmissable way. but the whole point of these
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adorable pointed ear pink caps you saw everyone wearing is because the president of the united states was caught on tape talking about how he felt entitled to grab women by the -- >> that's not what it was. 42% of women turned out and voted for trump. don't purport -- when in fact, you do not. 42% of all women. >> and black women. >> one at a time. >> let's be very clear here. the march, let's be clear here on that point. it was white women that elected donald trump. black women did not do that. this march sent a message to donald trump, i don't think, it was also a message to democrats. it was letting them know, look, all of those people out there in the streets, they are ready for change. so, this should empower and em bold endemocrats to go out there and speak truth to power on progressive rights. >> alice on the other side, i have to take a break. we'll be right back. when it comes to healthcare,
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back now with my panel. you know it's a good one when alice stewart and anna navarro have a tough time getting in. alice, you get the first word. go ahead. >> i agree.
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to anna's point, this has become so focused on birth control and reproductive rights, where i think as a woman and many women that i know and speak with, all issues are women's issues. not just reproductive rights. i think it is important to keep in mind this issue and this march started with frustration and disappointment at hillary clinton's loss and now it's morphed into questioning what donald trump will do for women. and i think already he has shown that he is going to stand up for women when it comes to what he's put in place for child care and what he's doing for -- putting women in office and equal pay for women. and i think as sean spicer said today, watch his actions and his deeds, and he will -- we will see soon enough that he is out there to promote women and to make women's lives better in all areas. but i think one thing that is important moving forward with this movement, a shared sense of victim hood is not a way to bring about change. i think if they take this one step further and find one
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mission, one cause and continue and stay engaged, i think there is a great movement ahead if they stay engaged and keep -- >> lauren, go ahead. lauren, lauren. >> i i didn't feel a sense of victim hood, i'll tell you. i felt a sense of girl power, empowerment. look, let me tell you something. any man who is watching this right now, any man who has got a daughter, a wife, a girlfriend, a mother knows that one pissed off woman is a lot on your hands. 3 million pissed off women marching in the streets of united states should make everybody's little ears perk up. >> six of them i let them say what they want because i don't want the wrath of any of you. lauren, go ahead to that point. you can put up the tweets, donald trump tweeted about it. he said watched protest yesterday, under the impression we had an election, why didn't they people vote? i don't know if they voted or not. then he said peaceful protests are the hallmark of our democracy.
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even though i don't agree, people have the right to express their views. do you think this got under his skin, he should be concerned? >> i do think it got under his skin. i would think he should not think in term of who is against him. who is the loser comes up in the rhetoric of the tweets. this is a huge stwawath of peop that showed up. we don't have a count. this is a representative portion of the american public to show up and actually get out of bed and be marching. and it's not about victim hood. i think the points we were making earlier about getting caught up in individual issues, this was about sending a message about fighting for equality and doing so with unity and solidarity and positivity. i mean, it was exuberant when i was there. >> okay. if i can do a lightning round with all of you because we have a little bit of time on the air here. lightning round about what you each think of the people who marched on saturday, what should they do next.
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what they do next, kaylee? >> give donald trump a chance because he's proposing to increase women's rights, not protract them. >> lauren? >> something, call your congress people, call your representatives. donate if you can. commit to doing something every single day in some small way. don't chill out at all. >> simone? >> take the fight locally. look, we need women's rights and this fight for equality, equity across the board locally. so, we need women of color engaged and involved in every level. so, look, if you don't have a woman of color on your board put her on your board. if you're doing planning, involve women of color. we need to get engaged. >> alice? >> run for office. these people would be tremendous public servants or get involved in voter registration or get out the vote. definitely get involved. >> ms. sklar? >> hang onto those pus sy hats because from all indications from donald trump's cabinet picks and his behavior over the campaign and as president-elect and as president, it seems pretty clear that we're all going to need them.
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>> ms. navarro? >> look, i think they need to -- we all need to stay engaged. we need to stay informed. we need to stay active. we need to register to vote. we need to register our friends and our family to vote. if all that fails, drink, eat haagendaz and open up a knit shop. >> anna, thank you for the levy at th -- levity. i hope we can continue this conversation. i appreciate your candor. thanks so much for joining us. that that's it for us tonight. thank you so much for joining us. i'll see you right back here tomorrow. medicare options until you're sixty-five, but now is a good time to get the ball rolling. keep in mind, medicare only covers about eighty percent of part b medical costs. the rest is up to you.
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president donald trump hours away from a meeting with the big three automakers after pulling the u.s. out of the trade deal that was a key obama legacy. and he just can't let it go. the president uses time with congressional leaders to push conspiracy theory about why he did not win the popular vote. >> it's an honor to do this. yes, i believe we have to be honest with the american people. our intention is never to lie to you. >> the president's press secretary looking to ease tensions in the briefing room. what did sean spicer say in t


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