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everything. she lived it and portrayed it. good morning. welcome to "early start." i'm john berman. >> i'm christine romans. it is 5:00 a.m. in east. this morning, president trump su shuffling rollout for the executive order after the border wall. we expected mr. trump to take action on immigration and refugees. instead, trade on bilateral deals now he withdrew from the tpp and china moving quickly to fill the gap. we wait information on refugees, but president trump fired the first shot signing executive order aimed at construction on the border wall within a matter of months. in the first interview since taking office. >> we will be reimbursed in a form by mexico. >> we will be paid back? >> yes. absolutely. >> the american taxpayer will
pay for the wall at first? >> we will be reimbursed. i campaigned on the wall. it is very important. that wall will cost us nothing. >> it will cost the u.s. taxpayers something first. u.s. has to pay for it first and mexico says it will not pay for it. so t so not settled yet. we have jim acosta with more. >> reporter: john and christine, president trump is traveling to philadelphia later today to attend a gop retreat. he has plenty to discuss with the fellow republicans after signing executive orders to build a wall on the border with mexico and crackdown on illegal immigration. here is what the president had to say about that. >> we're in the middle of the crisis on our southern border. the unprecedented surge of illegal migrants from central america is harming both mexico and the united states. i believe the steps we will take starting right now will improve the safety in both of our countries. going to be very, very good for
mexico. a nation without borders is not a nation. >> reporter: president trump was scheduled to meet with mexican president nieto next week. in a message to mexicans, nieto did not scrap the trip, but said mexico is not paying for that wall. john and christine. >> thank you, jim. regardless of if mexico pays for it. building the wall will be expensiv expensive. 1,300 miles and possibly 40-feet high. that requires 19 million tons of concrete. a $10 billion estimate. that was given to president trump by the national concrete cast association. they care confident in that figure. building the wall in isolated areas is more expensive. terrain could be rugged and mountainous in spots. other estimates suggest there
are enough uncertainties to drive the costs up to 15 billion dollars. some estimates as high as $25 billion. that is according to a research firm that tracks costs. none of the estimates are requiring the land. we are talking about ranchers along the border. if you build the border wall, you have to move into u.s. territory to build the wall so you are not infringing on the sovereignty of mexico. you are giving up american territory. basically, you are losing lands. >> americans live on the side of where the wall could be. the president could sign executive order ordering the justice department to launch investigation into voter fraud. he pushed the false claim that 3 million to 5 million false votes in the election. that is why he lost the popular vote. an investigation may help prove his claim. >> if you are looking at voter
rest str registration, you look at the dead people who are veg aftregi to vote and voted. you look at all of these things happening with registration. look at the registration. you will find and we will do an investigation on it. >> 3 million to 5 million illegal votes? >> we will find out. >> a senior official tells cnn the president wants to discuss the voter fraud issue he wants to discuss it before ordering a probe. >> let's bring in political reporter eugene scott. i want to play you the sound again where president trump is talking about the allegations where 3 million to 5 million people voted illegally. i want to play that sound. listen. >> if you look at voter registration, you look at the
dead people regular stristered and voted. you look at all of the registrations. you will find and we will do an investigation on it. >> but 3 million to 5 million illegal votes? >> we will find out. it could be that much. >> of those votes cast, none of them come to me. they would all be for the other side. none come to me. when you look at the people register registered. dead, illegal, in two states, in some case, three states. we have a lot to look into. >> you know, david muir of abc, he kept pressing president trump on the allegations of voter fraud. so often when david would press, the president would go back to the fact that i could have won the popular vote if i wanted to. it seems one of the things driving this obsession of voter fraud is he did not win the popular vote. >> yes, president trump has been very frustrated and disappointed
about the fact that most americans would went to the polls did not go for him. what's been an increasing problem for many people on both sides of the party is that the president has not provided any proof or any examples of where he is getting this information from. the coordinator of the study that sean spice er referenced w on wolf blitzer this week. he made it clear that what the president is promoting is a misrepresentation of the study of voter fraud in the united states. >> it is fascinating how that continues to dominate the news cycle. as long as he brings up the probe and he wants to investigate it, he will continue to be asked about it. it will dominate and remind everyone that he lost the popular vote. that is something that bothers him. let's talk about refugees and the president's very strict position on ending the flow or
halting the flow of refugees while he revamps the process. this is another campaign promise. this president for the past two or three days is doing everything he promised. his pen is on fire here. listen to him talking to david muir about the refugee situation. >> are you concerned it will cause more anger among muslims around the world? >> there is men plenty of anger right now. >> you don't think it will exacerbate the problem? >> david, i know you are a sophisticated guy. the world is a mess. the world is as angry as it gets. you think this will cause more anger? the world is an angry place. >> yeugene scott, i know you ar a sophisticated guy. when we talk to terror experts over the past few years, they said the united states is in a unique position.
it doesn't have the same terror problem that so many other countries do. uk and france and belgium. the issue here is lone wolf, self radicalized. you have the boston marathon bombers refugees. they did not come here as trojan horses. >> the san bernardino couple. that is another case where the wife was using immigration system to get here. does the u.s. have the big problem that the president seems to think it does? >> not according to his critics. there is frustration that not only would this move not fix the problem, it would, in fact, cause more anger. something that donald trump does not think is possible. one thing i saw fascinating is that one of the demographics who got behind donald trump most, white he vevangelicals.
to see their response to this is fascinating for two reasons. one, the president promised he would do this. it is not a surprise to many people. two, there were many people who got on the trump train because they thought a lot of these promises were just talk. to your point, he proven that he is a man of action. whether or not he will move congress and other agencies is not yet clear. as of now, he is trying. >> he is trying. he signed a number of actions and directives to push the country along the path he promised. congress has to weigh in on these fronts. including on the border wall. right now, maybe a little money the president could use to start building it. if he wants to spend $20 billion on a wall, he needs congressional approval. republicans meeting right now and the house speaker paul ryan will work on a supplemental
appropriati appropriation. this will put pressure on republicans in congress. >> it will put pressure on republicans in congress. part because the overwhelming majority of the republican voters are not supportive of the wall. as we discussed, i covered politics in arizona. i was close to people near the bord border. they do not think it is foolproof and nor will it answer the questions that donald trump and his supporters have. obviously, most importantly, there is constant push back against mexican lawmakers and officials about whether or not they would pay for the wall as trump promised. >> thank you, eugene. a legendary actress is gone. mary tyler moore passed away. we will have more on her life and legacy. you fand together, of your dreams... you had the kid of your dreams.
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actress and advocate and role model for a generation of women. mary tyler moore died wednesday at the age of 80. friends and family offering tributes to a woman with a role changed how women are depicted on television. jeanne moos has more. ♪ who can turn the world on with her smile ♪ >> reporter: mary tyler moore's smile turned off at the age of 80. not before she made it. ♪ you're going to make it after all ♪ >> reporter: her famous hat throw in a statue. >> here it goes. >> reporter: the first acting break as an elf. >> i'm happy housewife. >> reporter: pushing appliances. but her career really got hot. >> the dick van dyke show. >> reporter: in 1961 with her first starring role. >> i want to show you off. how about it? will you give me that pleasure?
>> no. >> reporter: in her own show, she played a single woman in a tv newsroom. >> you got spunk. >> well. >> i hate spunk. >> reporter: the show had enough spunk to last seven seasons. mary also went after serious roles. >> do you chase these roles? >> yes. >> reporter: she was no, ma'min for "ordinary people" and in her not so ordinary life, married three times and lived through diabetes and benign brain tumor. lost her only son when he accidentally shot himself. she was a vegetarian and for years an alcoholic. >> i just made up my mind to stop. >> reporter: and checked into the betty ford clinic. watch her expression when larry king described her? >> comedy goddess. >> what other people think of me is none of my business. >> reporter: if you think of her
with sadness, recall mary cracking up at the funeral of chuckles the clown. remember how that ended? >> go ahead, my dear, laugh for chuckles. >> reporter: mary tyler moore fans may need tissues or at least a group hug. >> i think we all need some kleenex. >> there's some on mary's desk. >> reporter: jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> look at the people in that photo. all big stars. she was a leader. she brought them all together. she was a producer of that show. mtm. what an icon over so many generations. among the tributes, we heard from ed asner. my heart goes out to you and your family.
know i love you and believe in your strength. he added a great lady i loved and i will miss her. i will never been able to repay her for the blessings. and dick van dyke wrote, there are no words. she was the best. we always said we would change each other's lives for the better. he shared this video of their performance. ♪ i got your number and baby you know you got mine ♪ >> they look like they have so much fun on that show. >> wow. 18 minutes after the hour. roger goodell says handing the patriots the lombardi trophy, if, maybe he means when, it won't be awkward. really? andy scholes with the bleacher report next.
this is amazing. i can't believe i'm saying this in 2017. it will be an all williams final at the australian open. serena and venus facing off for the ninth time. >> we have andy scholes with the bleacher report. >> one will be the australia open champ. the first time the two have squared off since wimbledon in 2009. that was also the last time venus made it to a grand slam final. this will be incredible. 28th meeting between the two sisters. serena has the better of venus winning 16 of those. one more final win and serena passes steffi graf if the open era. >> she is my toughest opponent. no one has beaten me as much as venus. she has a pretty good record against me. we have a good record against
each other. you know, i just feel like no matter what happens, we won. >> the big story line in the nfl over the past two years was deflategate. patriots versus the nfl. tom brady versus roger goodell. many wonder what would happen with the patriots win and goodell would hand brady the trophy. >> not for a second. i'm going to be thrilled. tom brady is one of the all-time greats. he has been for several years. he is on the precipice of at least potentially winning his fifth super bowl ring. he is an extraordinary player and great performer and sure hall of famer. >> the pro bowl is tinkering with ways to make the game better for fans. it is a skills competition. players compete in the drone drop. a drone with a football will go
up about 200 yards in the air and receivers try to catch it when the drone drops it. guys, i don't think they should stop there. they should do more fun things for the fans. maybe a dunk booth with roger goodell. quarterbacks will line up. maybe a hot dog eating contest. fun to watch the linemen. the possibilities are endless if you think about it. >> the drone is better than half the quarterbacks in the nfl right andy, thank you. president trump not backing down that mexico will pay for the wall. you can imagine there is disagreement from across the border. that's next.
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since sworn in. immigration and voter fraud and torture. and executive order action misdirecti misdirection. he will sign something today. no, it is not what we thought. this after he signed an order on the border wall that he says mexico will pay for. mexico says no way. remembering mary tyler moore. the actress has died at the age of 80. we look back at the most memorable moments. so sad she is gone. it is putting a smile on my face all of the clips. she changed how women were portrayed on television. >> a real contributions. welcome back to "early start." i'm christine romans. >> i'm john berman. what will the president sign today? a day after signing executive order on the border wall, we had been told the president would come with more immigration orders that could include a temporary ban on all refugees.
now we are told he will take action on trade today. as for that border wall, during the campaign, he said mexico would pay for it. his new executive action has nothing to advance that. new comments from mexico do nothing to accept that. in fact, the mexicans are saying forget about it. still, the president was defiant in the first white house interview since taking office. >> we will be in a form reimbursed by mexico. >> they will pay us back? >> absolutely. 100%. >> the american taxpayer will pay for the wall at first. >> all it is reimbursed at a later date from whatever transition we make from mexico. i campaigned on the wall. that wall will cost us nothing. >> mexico's largest source of income threatened by president trump. the country's biggest source of cash comes from mexicans living and earning money in the u.s. and sending the money back to mexico. almost $25 billion flowed into mexico last year from overseas. almost all of it from here in
the u.s. the average remittance is about $3 $300. we are talking small amounts coming in. in 2015, remittance surpassed the amount of oil mexico he exports. the biggest economic resource are workers who leave the country and send money from the united states. donald trump is looking to stop or tax those payments. this is a bargaining chip. he plans to fulfill the campaign promise. expert says if the white house tries to stop the money and use it is how to pay for the wall, workers here would find informal ways. they would not give remittance. they would give to relatives travel or send through the mail. mexico's president is meeting with president trump next week. he said his country is not paying for the wall. the mexican officials visited
the white house yesterday. >> it is not just complicated how to pay for it, but how to build it. a lot of the land is private river. the rio grande. what materials do you build? >> securing that border is a minefield. a decadie ago, a big bill. they put sensors and cameras there to see and target what was happening and tell border patrol where to go. the rabbits setoff the sensors and birds destroyed the cameras. >> it is complicated. very expensive. as for executive actions on refugees, they will not be signed today. maybe on friday. a draft executive order obtained by cnn, the president considering a blanket ban by refugees on four months. it bars all travels from seven countries. iraq, iran, syria, yemen and
others. >> it bars admission for syrian refugees until the screening process is overhauled. the president explained the restrictions to abc. >> you are looking at people that come in, in many cases, in some casecases, with evil intentions. isis coming under false pretense. i don't want that. i want to be the president of the safe country. we have enough problems. we are not letting people in if there is a chance of a problem. the president could sign an executive order for the justices department to launch investigation into the voter fraud. the president repeatedly pushed the false claim that 3 million to 5 million illegal votes were cast in the election. he says he lost the popular vote. there is no evidence of this. in fact, his own white house counsel, his lawyer in the white house says there is no evidence
of this. nevertheless, facts aside, the president said an investigation may help prove his claim. >> if you look at voter registration. look at the dead people regis r registered to vote who vote. you look at people who are registered in two states. you look at all of these things that are happening with registration, you look at those registrations. you will find and we will do an investigation on it. >> 3 million to 5 million illegal votes? >> we will find out. it could be. >> not one of the 3 million to 5 million votes cast illegally. not one were for him. in that interview with david muir, he seems to say he lost the popular vote because of voter shenanigans. he wants to discuss the voter fraud issue with republican lawmakers before launching the probe. new issues over torture. the president wants to quote fight fire with fire to counterterrorism. that includes being open to
using banned techniques. lawmakers on both sides of the aisle are outraged of bringing back the enhanced interrogation techniques. including john mccain. he endured years of torture at the hands of the north vietnamese. several outlets obtained an executive order that calls for opening black sites. so a lot of headlines to react to. a very busy day in the oval office. let's bring back eugene scott to break this down. eugene. let let's start on the voter fraud. a major probe we are told. we wonder when that would begin or where it would begin. there is no attorney general in poli place. you have to get somebody could run the justice department first. tell me why we think the story
line is here today with the president still seemingly convinced or trying to convince the rest of the world he could win the popular vote. >> i think the story line will be continued criticism from lawmakers on the right and left toward donald trump making claims that have not been substantiated. of all of the investigations to support and back, there is concern over why this has gotten donald trump's attention most. especially when there has been no proof. creating more distrust in the voter system. especially in light of ongoing investigation of the russian involvement in the 2016 election. it seems to be a misdirected focus for donald trump. it is what republican lawmakers and democrats saying with little proof. >> one of the things of voter fraud. registered in two states is not
fraud. a lot of people are registered in two states. steve bannon and steve mnuchin. there are reports that his daughter tiffany trump is registered in two states. no evidence that 3 million to 5 million people voted illegally in that election. the interview was fascinating. we heard the president talk about torre and talk about the idea he would not oppose waterboarding. this is controversial. it is with members of his own party. including john mccain who pushed back very hard on this notion. how far do you think the president will be willing to fight on this? >> it remains to be seen. i can't imagine he will fight that much harder. not only are members of his party pushing back, there are members in the cabinet familiar with the going on and war that find the issue problematic. here in the united kingdom,
encouraging theresa may to push back on torture and the national security attempts he is hoping to make with the international community say don't keep the world more secure. >> let's talk about the muslim ban. the ban on travelers coming in the united states and refugee ban. at least ending the programs. this is what he promised on the campaign trail. this really is exactly what he promised. i want to listen to a little bit of him saying this is not a muslim ban, but list that will make you happy. listen. >> it's countries that have tremendous terror and it's countries that people are going to come in and cause us tremendous problems. our country has enough problems without allowing people to come in who in many cases or in some cases are looking to do tremendous destruction. look at what happened. i have a list. you will be thrilled.
>> so what do you make of that? he is coming through with the campaign promises, at least on the immigration side, we think, on the immigration side of all this. >> the optics of it are great. i hit the ground running in terms of signing executive orders fulfilling promises he made to supporters. the reality is signing an executive order does not mean something comes to pass. we saw that with president obama and guantanamo bay. these are decisions that other agencies and other lawmakers have to back before trump can make them reality. i think that will be increasingly difficult as he gets more push back. especially from some people in his base. donald trump won more than 80% of the evangelical vote. that is a community focal in terms of the concern of finding safe places for refugees. whether or not he keeps that support from them on this issue is probably not likely. >> we should note that the list of countries, that we know
about, some inn consist tkon sc inconsistencies. it doesn't include belgium or france. eugene scott, thank you. 20 minutes until the hour. so many around the world mourning the loss of mary tyler moore. we will have much more on her life and legacy coming up. . >> there was always some deeper meaning to whatever chuckles did. pain from chest congestion whecan make this...d, feel like this. all-in-one cold symptom relief from tylenol®, the #1 doctor recommended pain relief brand. tylenol® ♪ this is where real fans sit. up here it's all about the comradery. the bond you build within your section. you can see it all. literally. like the game, and the next county over
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the legendary actress mary tyler moore has died. friends and stars offering tributes to a woman whose role changed how women are depicted on television. cnn's jeanne moos has more. ♪ who can turn the world on >> reporter: mary tyler moore's smile turned off at the age of 80, but not before she made it. ♪ you're going to make it after all ♪ >> reporter: her famous hat
throw immortalized in a statue. her first acting break as an elf. pushing appliances. her career really got hot. >> the dick van dyke show. >> reporter: in 1961 with her first starring role. >> i want to show you off. how about it, laurie? will you give me that pleasure? >> no. >> reporter: in her own shows, she played a single woman in a tv newsroom. >> you got spunk. >> well. >> i hate spunk. >> reporter: the show has enough spunk to last seven seasons. mary also went after serious roles. >> do you chase these roles? >> yes. >> reporter: she was nominated for academy award for "ordinary people" and in her not so ordinary life, she was married three times and lived through diabetes and benign brain tumor.
lost her only son when he accidently shot himself. she was a vegetarian and years an alcoholic. >> i just made up my mind to stop. >> reporter: checked in the betty ford clinic. watch the expression when larry king described her? >> as television's comedy goddess. >> reporter: she said this quote was her motto. >> what other people think of me is none of my business. >> reporter: if you think of her with sadness, recall mary cracking up at the funeral of chuckles the clown. remember how that ended? >> go ahead, my dear, laugh for chuckles. >> reporter: mary tyler moore fans may need some tissues. >> mr. grant. >> reporter: or at least a group hug. >> i think we all need some kleenex. >> there's some on mary's desk. >> reporter: jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> all that talent. just a real moment in time.
all that talent. >> mary tyler moore, she spanned generations from the '60s to doing movies to the '90s. she will be missed. among the tributes, ed asner wrote, a great lady i loved and so much missed us. i will miss her. never able to repay her for the blessings. and dick van dyke wrote, there are no words. she was the best. we said we would change each other's lives for the better. dick van dyke shared the video of the two of them singing and dancing on stage. watch. ♪ you got life >> such amazing talent. 56 minutes past the hour. let's get a check on cnn money stream. the dow finally did it. passing 20,000 mark at opening bell. closed 68 points above that. the dow and s&p and nasdaq with
all record highs. futures higher again. global stock markets are higher. the stock market, of course, measures corporate profits. that is what this is telling us. these markets are telling us they think that president trump will be very good for their bottom lines and fat and profits. the optimism surrounding the policies of less regulation is companies will make more money. great for corporate america. what will it do for jobs, housing and your pocketbooks? that is what we don't know. what does the president think about 20,000 dow? >> first time in history. i'm proud of that. now, we have to go up, up, up. we don't want it to stay there. >> that's the challenge. >> that is the challenge. it has gone up a lot since i won. don't forget when i won people thought, oh, maybe it will go down. the business world doesn't think that. the business world knows me.
they don't think that. it was a steady climb. we just hit a record and a number that's never been hit before. i was very honored by that. >> remarkable to see a president in the oval office talking about the level of stocks. not something you see usually. many analysts predict a drop between 8% and 15% if trump won. instead, up 10% since election day. the president pointing that out. everyone said it would be bad for the economy if he were elected. the opposite. an old joke. god created economists toforeca the united states of america gets back its borders. >> hmexico will never pay for that [ bleep ] wall.
>> we're going to get the bad ones out. >> is tuesday's meeting with the mexican president in jeopardy? >> the people who register are illegals. >> i feel sorry for them. i prayed for them. i pray for the united states of america. >> as far as i'm concerned, we have to fight fire with fire. she certainly was the epitome of star quality. >> remembering the iconic mary tyler moore. ♪ you're going to make it after all. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> this is your new day. it's thursday, january 26, 6:00 in the east. up first, president trump is planning to build a wall along the mexican border.
it's shaking up mexico and the united states, and it's probably not going to be an easy job, certainly not as easy as signing an order. in his first major interview as president, mr. trump vowed to begin the construction in a matter of months and insists without details that mexico will pay for it. >> the mexican president slamming trump's plan, saying they will not pay for a wall. their meeting next week could be in jeopardy. president trump also discusses his plan to investigate voter fraud, and he says that waterboarding, quote, absolutely works. we have much to discuss on day 7 of the trump administration. let's begin our coverage with cnn's sara murray live from washington. hi, sara. >> good morning, alisyn. the relationship between the united states and mexico is already under a shaky start, and he's raising alarm with both parties as he continues to insist that waterboarding works. >> we will be